DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [ADoP] Weekly Report: 11-14-17

2017-11-16 Thread VJ Rada
The position no longer exists. On Fri, Nov 17, 2017 at 1:26 AM, ATMunn wrote: > Haven't? You were elected on 2017-11-06, and I think the office was vacant > before that. > > > On 11/16/2017 12:03 AM, Owen Jacobson wrote: > >> CoE: I haven’t been the Agronomist since

Re: BUS: Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [Assessor] Resolution of Proposals 7948-7953

2017-11-16 Thread VJ Rada
ooh, supply value implications all up in this place On Fri, Nov 17, 2017 at 10:16 AM, Alexis Hunt wrote: > On Thu, 16 Nov 2017 at 18:12 Alex Smith wrote: > > > On Thu, 2017-11-16 at 23:05 +, Alexis Hunt wrote: > > > I deregister Ienpw III,

Re: BUS: Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [Assessor] Resolution of Proposals 7948-7953

2017-11-16 Thread Alex Smith
On Thu, 2017-11-16 at 23:05 +, Alexis Hunt wrote: > I deregister Ienpw III, Bayushi, and ProofTechnique, with 3 Agoran > Consent, > resolving Telnaior's intent to do so. G., ATMunn, V.J Rada, and I > supported. Only V.J. Rada objected. V.J. Rada both supported and objected? I can't remember

Re: BUS: Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [Assessor] Resolution of Proposals 7948-7953

2017-11-16 Thread Alexis Hunt
On Thu, 16 Nov 2017 at 18:12 Alex Smith wrote: > On Thu, 2017-11-16 at 23:05 +, Alexis Hunt wrote: > > I deregister Ienpw III, Bayushi, and ProofTechnique, with 3 Agoran > > Consent, > > resolving Telnaior's intent to do so. G., ATMunn, V.J Rada, and I > >

Re: DIS: Note on updated rulesets

2017-11-16 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Fri, 17 Nov 2017, Alexis Hunt wrote: > I'll gladly provide anyone a copy of my then-up-to-date ruleset, until I > get web publication working again at which point I hope to remember to keep > the website up to date whenever I update a local copy. Probably slightly > higher priority than that

Re: DIS: Note on updated rulesets

2017-11-16 Thread VJ Rada
I think I remember Trigon saying that the HLR was the main reason e came here and thought the rules were reasonable: so it is important. But yeah obviously I'm not that bothered. On Fri, Nov 17, 2017 at 2:46 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote: > > > On Fri, 17 Nov 2017, Alexis Hunt

Re: DIS: Note on updated rulesets

2017-11-16 Thread Alexis Hunt
That's a fair point; I might be able to use the existing SLR/FLR links on that page to set it up as a stopgap. On Thu, 16 Nov 2017 at 22:48 Kerim Aydin wrote: > > > On Fri, 17 Nov 2017, Alexis Hunt wrote: > > I'll gladly provide anyone a copy of my then-up-to-date

Re: DIS: Note on updated rulesets

2017-11-16 Thread Kerim Aydin
For sure - I really appreciate the HLR and used it for browsing, but when getting down to proposal-writing, being able to copy/paste from the "most recent" (and not having to hunt for it in email) is invaluable. On Fri, 17 Nov 2017, VJ Rada wrote: > I think I remember Trigon saying that the HLR

Re: DIS: Note on updated rulesets

2017-11-16 Thread Reuben Staley
Indeed I did say that. 3000 line long text files are quite intimidating, which is why I believe in having a good HLR. -- Trigon On Nov 16, 2017 8:51 PM, "VJ Rada" wrote: > I think I remember Trigon saying that the HLR was the main reason e came > here and thought the rules

DIS: Re: BUS: Stamps, Rewards

2017-11-16 Thread Publius Scribonius Scholasticus
I agree. On 11/16/2017 03:08 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote: > > > On Thu, 16 Nov 2017, Owen Jacobson wrote: >> I destroy one stamp I own, which I made, to cause Agora to pay me 59 sh. >> I destroy one stamp I own, which I made, to cause Agora to pay me 59 sh. > > I destroy one stamp I own, which I made,

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [ADoP] Weekly Report: 11-14-17

2017-11-16 Thread ATMunn
I'm stupid. I accept o's CoE and publish the following revision: =Metareport= This report is effective as of the time of its publishing. Date of last report: 2017-11-07 Date of this report: 2017-11-14 Total offices: 17 Filled offices: 94.11% Consolidation: 52.94% Late reports: 0%

DIS: Re: BUS: Joining the fun

2017-11-16 Thread Publius Scribonius Scholasticus
Did you still net a profit from this? On 11/16/2017 08:24 PM, Owen Jacobson wrote: > On Nov 16, 2017, at 7:40 AM, Alexis Hunt wrote: > >> I destroy my stamp for 59 shinies. > > On Nov 16, 2017, at 10:00 AM, ATMunn wrote: > >> I also destroy my stamp,

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Stamps, Rewards

2017-11-16 Thread ATMunn
Same. On 11/16/2017 3:33 PM, Publius Scribonius Scholasticus wrote: I agree. On 11/16/2017 03:08 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote: On Thu, 16 Nov 2017, Owen Jacobson wrote: I destroy one stamp I own, which I made, to cause Agora to pay me 59 sh. I destroy one stamp I own, which I made, to cause Agora

DIS: Re: BUS: Joining the fun

2017-11-16 Thread Alexis Hunt
Is Agora still at 40 shinies? On Thu, 16 Nov 2017 at 20:24 Owen Jacobson wrote: > On Nov 16, 2017, at 7:40 AM, Alexis Hunt wrote: > > > I destroy my stamp for 59 shinies. > > > On Nov 16, 2017, at 10:00 AM, ATMunn wrote: > > > I

Re: DIS: Coordination of annotations

2017-11-16 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Thu, 16 Nov 2017, Alexis Hunt wrote: > I would like to get more annotations into the FLR, but I do not have the > time to go through CFJs and prepare them. G., are you going to continue > suggesting annotations in a place that is easy for me to see? Or should > judges do that? These are the

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Joining the fun

2017-11-16 Thread VJ Rada
this is actually the main problem with the economy btw On Fri, Nov 17, 2017 at 1:05 PM, Publius Scribonius Scholasticus < p.scribonius.scholasti...@gmail.com> wrote: > I will take Arbitor, if no one wants it, but I will not do so happily. I > agree with the sentiment and I plan to disengage from

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Joining the fun

2017-11-16 Thread Alexis Hunt
+1. On Thu, 16 Nov 2017 at 21:11 Publius Scribonius Scholasticus < p.scribonius.scholasti...@gmail.com> wrote: > The main problem with the economy is not that I am acting rationally > based off of the parameters. It is that as it stands, I have no use or > reason to spend my money. > > On

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Joining the fun

2017-11-16 Thread VJ Rada
yeah no not blaming you specifically and you're right but this is a nomic for fun right? we have the economy for a fun game. and like... even if there's not a whole bunch of things to buy from Agora we do have contracts now, we have game mechanics. the solution isn't always fixing the rules (not

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Joining the fun

2017-11-16 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Fri, 17 Nov 2017, Alexis Hunt wrote: > I won't be resigning, though; we need a rulekeepor and it's fun, and tailor > is pretty trivial. Good reminder. Arbitor is fun for me atm when I'm not thinking about the whole economy thing. Unless someone is really dying to do it (doesn't sound like

DIS: Note on updated rulesets

2017-11-16 Thread Alexis Hunt
I'll gladly provide anyone a copy of my then-up-to-date ruleset, until I get web publication working again at which point I hope to remember to keep the website up to date whenever I update a local copy. Probably slightly higher priority than that is getting the headers back (indicating date, last

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Joining the fun

2017-11-16 Thread Owen Jacobson
> On Nov 16, 2017, at 8:48 PM, Publius Scribonius Scholasticus > wrote: > > Did you still net a profit from this? Accounting only for the four 29 sh. payments, yes. I collected 118 sh. from Agora, but paid 116 sh. to other players, pocketing 2 sh. in

Re: BUS: Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [Assessor] Resolution of Proposals 7948-7953

2017-11-16 Thread VJ Rada
I was nearly like "maybe i should deregister to give agora more shinies" and then i realized... On Fri, Nov 17, 2017 at 1:31 PM, Owen Jacobson wrote: > > > On Nov 16, 2017, at 6:05 PM, Alexis Hunt wrote: > > > > On Sun, 12 Nov 2017 at 20:33 Aris Merchant <

DIS: Re: BUS: What the economy looks like without shinies.

2017-11-16 Thread VJ Rada
>- Rule 2506 (Blue Cards) ​Keep these: just make them apply to all assets illegally gained instead of shinies.​ On Fri, Nov 17, 2017 at 2:04 PM, Alexis Hunt wrote: > Honestly, I think that some of the incoming economic reforms may really > help. But in case those don't

DIS: Proto: Asset Simplification

2017-11-16 Thread Alexis Hunt
Rule 2166 is enormous, unwieldy, and hard to follow. This intent of this proposal is to make it easier to understand and remove text that isn't used. It's easy enough to re-enact relevant text later if needed, but r Only a proto for now, because it requires coordination with a number of proposals

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Joining the fun

2017-11-16 Thread Publius Scribonius Scholasticus
I will take Arbitor, if no one wants it, but I will not do so happily. I agree with the sentiment and I plan to disengage from the economy and hoarde shinies until it is fixed. On 11/16/2017 09:03 PM, Alexis Hunt wrote: > On Thu, 16 Nov 2017 at 20:56 Kerim Aydin wrote: >

DIS: Re: BUS: Joining the fun

2017-11-16 Thread Alexis Hunt
On Thu, 16 Nov 2017 at 20:56 Kerim Aydin wrote: > > > On Thu, 16 Nov 2017, Owen Jacobson wrote: > > None of these succeeded, as Agora only had 40 sh. by the time Alexis > > tried it. However, I think G. has a good point. With that in mind: > > > > * I pay Alexis 29 >

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Joining the fun

2017-11-16 Thread Publius Scribonius Scholasticus
The main problem with the economy is not that I am acting rationally based off of the parameters. It is that as it stands, I have no use or reason to spend my money. On 11/16/2017 09:08 PM, VJ Rada wrote: > this is actually the main problem with the economy btw > > On Fri, Nov 17, 2017 at 1:05

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Joining the fun

2017-11-16 Thread Kerim Aydin
nichdel's recent proto-proposal combined with either of the two land proposals sorta does this. I looked at it yesterday with an eye towards proposing it (since e has been busy/not around), but the latest draft e published still keeps (but changes) a bunch of the stamp stuff and I didn't want

Re: DIS: The land reforms I kept on talking up

2017-11-16 Thread Owen Jacobson
I would be more than happy to volunteer to track information for either of the two land reform proposals up for discussion. They both look grand. Some specific feedback on this one: On Nov 14, 2017, at 12:17 AM, Reuben Staley wrote: > Re-enact rule 1993/1 (Power=2)

Re: DIS: The land reforms I kept on talking up

2017-11-16 Thread Owen Jacobson
>> Just saying it is "a record" seems a bit broad. I don't know how you would >> make that more specific without being over-complicated, though. > > I just kept this wording from the original maps rules. I don't know how else > to say it. Defining this in terms of a set of platonic entities