Re: DIS: Re: BUS: CFJ on Blots

2019-06-10 Thread Jason Cobb
I would personally argue that a proposal does not need to take effect in order to simply _describe_ permisibility of an action, and thus this rule would delegate to all such proposals, even those not yet adopted or those explicitly voted down. Jason Cobb On 6/10/19 8:28 PM, Kerim Aydin

DIS: Re: BUS: Zombie auction status (unofficial report)

2019-06-10 Thread Rebecca
i bid 8 coins On Tue, Jun 11, 2019 at 12:06 PM James Cook wrote: > There is one ongoing zombie auction. > > Lots: > 1. Publius Scribonius Scholasticus > 2. Corona > 3. Hālian > 4. Tarhalindur > > Bids: > 2019-06-07T17:01Z. Rance. 7 Coins. > 2019-06-08T00:59Z. omd. 10 Coins. > 2019-06-10T08:17Z.

DIS: Zombie auction status (unofficial report)

2019-06-10 Thread James Cook
On Tue, 11 Jun 2019 at 02:06, James Cook wrote: > 2019-06-07T17:01Z. Rance. 7 Coins. Oops, I forgot to reformat that. That notation means it was at 17:01 UTC on June 7.

DIS: Re: BUS: Fw: CFJ: Can The Ritual be banished?

2019-06-10 Thread James Cook
It's hard to tell that the rest of your message is quoted. I suspect Yahoo mail interacts badly with the mailing list somehow. Maybe it doesn't format the text version of the email very well. On Mon, 10 Jun 2019 at 03:36, Rance Bedwell wrote: > > I withdraw the below CFJ. omd has shown me the

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: CFJ on Blots

2019-06-10 Thread ais...@alumni.bham.ac.uk
On Tue, 2019-06-11 at 10:56 +1000, Rebecca wrote: > yes! it is an informal request rather than anything defined by the > rules, i dont know why we say it that way. It used to be a rules-defined action. People kept the phrasing once the rule in question got repealed, and the Arbitor kept honouring

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: CFJ on Blots

2019-06-10 Thread Rebecca
yes! it is an informal request rather than anything defined by the rules, i dont know why we say it that way. On Tue, Jun 11, 2019 at 10:55 AM Jason Cobb wrote: > I'm sorry, but I keep hearing this and I don't know what it means. Does > it mean that you wish to be the Judge? > > Jason Cobb > >

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: CFJ on Blots

2019-06-10 Thread Jason Cobb
I'm sorry, but I keep hearing this and I don't know what it means. Does it mean that you wish to be the Judge? Jason Cobb On 6/10/19 8:53 PM, Rebecca wrote: i favor this one On Tue, Jun 11, 2019 at 10:28 AM Kerim Aydin wrote: On general principle - yep! The Rules can delegate to other

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: CFJ on Blots

2019-06-10 Thread Rebecca
i favor this one On Tue, Jun 11, 2019 at 10:28 AM Kerim Aydin wrote: > > On general principle - yep! The Rules can delegate to other documents like > that. A good example is Tournaments (R2464) where winning is delegated - > at times we've allowed tournaments to hold/award Coins and change

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: CFJ on Blots

2019-06-10 Thread Kerim Aydin
On general principle - yep! The Rules can delegate to other documents like that. A good example is Tournaments (R2464) where winning is delegated - at times we've allowed tournaments to hold/award Coins and change other game quantities other than winning. For Proposals specifically I think

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: CFJ on Blots

2019-06-10 Thread Jason Cobb
I might be missing some precedent here, but if the wording was "except as described by a proposal or rule", then couldn't I submit a proposal that says something to the effect of "Any player CAN, by announcement, expunge any number of Blots from emself." and then have that wording captured by

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: CFJ on Blots

2019-06-10 Thread Kerim Aydin
I think Agora we would be ok with the intuition on this one just in terms of grammar, except we've given very specific different legal meanings between a rule doing something and a person doing something as authorized by a rule, due to our instruments and power system. So there's a CFJ history

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: CFJ on Blots

2019-06-10 Thread D. Margaux
I could see this coming out either way. It's the sort of hyper literalist interpretation that Agorans seem to adopt sometimes. It's really interesting to me, because within my discipline (law), those sorts of hyperliteralist interpretations simply wouldn't work. Lawyers would just intuitively

DIS: Re: BUS: CFJ on Blots

2019-06-10 Thread Kerim Aydin
Interesting catch. It's the difference between "except by a proposal or rule" versus "except as described by a proposal or rule" which is the usual phrasing that would work fine - so the question is can we infer the "as described" part - which might be a hard sell given how picky we usually

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: CFJ: Can The Ritual be banished?

2019-06-10 Thread D. Margaux
This is creative! But performing the ritual is a regulated action, and therefore it can be performed only using methods expressly specified in the rules (per Rule 2125). > On Jun 9, 2019, at 9:22 PM, Jason Cobb wrote: > > There's no such thing as a Call for *Justice*. :) > > Jason Cobb >