Re: DIS: Proto-proposal: Igora

2013-05-23 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Wed, 22 May 2013, Tanner Swett wrote: Stones are a fixed asset whose recordkeepor is the Sensei. At the beginning of each week, every active first-class player is awarded 3 Stones. Hee hee. See R2022 (Sente and Gote) along with the version of R1997 that defined the only

DIS: Self-referential story

2013-05-23 Thread Wes Contreras
We were amused, and it seemed appropriate to share here, given nomic's history with Hofstadter and self-reference. http://consc.net/misc/moser.html --Wes

Re: DIS: Self-referential story

2013-05-23 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Thu, 23 May 2013, Wes Contreras wrote: We were amused, and it seemed appropriate to share here, given nomic's history with Hofstadter and self-reference. http://consc.net/misc/moser.html --Wes One of my all-time faves! -g.

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Proto: The Suber Classic

2013-05-23 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Wed, 22 May 2013, Charles Walker wrote: On 20 May 2013 19:06, Kerim Aydin ke...@u.washington.edu wrote: [Proto comes to mind with anniversary coming up, and also the Lime ribbon working imperfectly/uninterestinly] FOR, but did you think about whether the currency should be fixed? I'm

DIS: Re: BUS: bleh 2

2013-05-23 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Tue, 21 May 2013, omd wrote: Proposal: relative dimension in sanity (AI=3) Amend Rule 2338 (Cashing Promises) by removing: If a promise is possessed by the Tree, any player except the promise's author CAN transfer it to emself by announcement, if e cashes the

Re: DIS: Self-referential story

2013-05-23 Thread Tanner Swett
This reminds me of a certain thing I thought up recently: the prefix wyo-, to denote the fixed point of a concept, so that, for example, a wyopainting is a painting of a wyopainting, a wyoprinter is something that prints a wyoprinter (thus, a quine, or perhaps a mutual quine or something

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: bleh 2

2013-05-23 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Thu, 23 May 2013, omd wrote: On Thu, May 23, 2013 at 10:27 AM, Kerim Aydin ke...@u.washington.edu wrote: If a player can take back (by cashing) a promise e posts on the tree, it removes the whole purpose of the tree (if a pledge can be taken back, it's not a pledge). How about in

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: bleh 2

2013-05-23 Thread omd
On Thu, May 23, 2013 at 11:31 AM, Kerim Aydin ke...@u.washington.edu wrote: Thinking of defaults, I was also wondering about default expirations, (as these promises tend to lose relevance over time). I think Horton's destruction without objection is sufficient for those.

Re: DIS: Proto-proposal: Igora

2013-05-23 Thread Tanner Swett
On May 23, 2013, at 11:43 AM, Kerim Aydin wrote: On Wed, 22 May 2013, Tanner Swett wrote: Stones are a fixed asset whose recordkeepor is the Sensei. At the beginning of each week, every active first-class player is awarded 3 Stones. Hee hee. See R2022 (Sente and Gote) along

Re: DIS: Proto-proposal: Igora

2013-05-23 Thread Sean Hunt
On Thu, May 23, 2013 at 4:16 PM, Tanner Swett swe...@mail.gvsu.edu wrote: Hm. I like the land metaphor; let me retheme the proposal around it (and make some other cosmetic tweaks while I'm at it) I think alliances should be a different rule; they may have other application (and it would be

Re: DIS: Proto-proposal: Igora

2013-05-23 Thread Craig Daniel
I'm reminded of the PGo subgame from B Nomic back before everything crashed. Not sure if I can dig up exactly how that worked, but it would be worth looking at (it was one of B's greatest hits, IMO). - teucer On Thu, May 23, 2013 at 4:18 PM, Sean Hunt scsh...@csclub.uwaterloo.ca wrote: On Thu,

Re: DIS: Proto-proposal: Igora

2013-05-23 Thread Tanner Swett
On May 23, 2013, at 4:18 PM, Sean Hunt wrote: On Thu, May 23, 2013 at 4:16 PM, Tanner Swett swe...@mail.gvsu.edu wrote: Hm. I like the land metaphor; let me retheme the proposal around it (and make some other cosmetic tweaks while I'm at it) I think alliances should be a different rule;

Re: DIS: Proto-proposal: Igora

2013-05-23 Thread Charles Walker
On 23 May 2013 21:25, Tanner Swett swe...@mail.gvsu.edu wrote: On May 23, 2013, at 4:18 PM, Sean Hunt wrote: On Thu, May 23, 2013 at 4:16 PM, Tanner Swett swe...@mail.gvsu.edu wrote: Hm. I like the land metaphor; let me retheme the proposal around it (and make some other cosmetic tweaks while

DIS: Re: BUS: Intent to deputise

2013-05-23 Thread omd
On Thu, May 23, 2013 at 7:17 PM, Jonathan Rouillard jonathan.rouill...@gmail.com wrote: If I haven't already voted on these, I vote PRESENT on all of them. (I sent a message to the list, but it was down so it told me that it would retry automatically. I have no idea if it actually did, so eh.