Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Election update
I'm planning, absent a convincing argument about why this is a hideously bad idea, to withdraw. I've never really wanted the office, and I'm a bit uneasy about taking on more workload. At the time I joined, I was unaware of any candidacy except Rada's. Under those circumstances, I wanted to provide an alternative. Right now I see fewer and fewer reasons to stay in the race, and more and more to leave it to others. G., if you wanted to join the race (I think you still can, haven't checked) and reform the office, I'd like to note that you're the best Referee we've had in my memory. Otherwise, people are free to vote for Corona, and I hope they will, because it makes little sense to reelect someone to the very office they last left... under a cloud, so to speak. If I remain in the race, it would be at the most as a temporary placeholder, and right now that doesn't look very appealing to me. -Aris On Mon, Jun 18, 2018 at 9:44 AM Kerim Aydin wrote: > > > Honestly the main reason I didn't run again is that checking for past > reports is a pain even with timely ADoP reports at hand (and I didn't > want to be haphazard either). > > In one of the old blotting systems, finger-pointing for specific crimes > was the job of whomever tracked the records involved; e.g. the ADoP > did the finger-pointing for late Reports, Treasuror for late payments, > etc. Might work a little better? > > On Mon, 18 Jun 2018, Aris Merchant wrote: > > I very much liked your blotting policy. I can't say exactly how careful > I'm > > going to be about checking for missing reports, so my policy may end up > > being more like o's in that regard. I maintain, however, that Corona's > > policies don't sound entirely unreasonable, and e probably has more time > to > > devote to the job than I do. I merely don't want a return to V.J. Rada's > > previous policies, as I found them excessively punitive, and I still > don't > > trust em with this particular office after how e last left it. > > > > -Aris > > > > > > On Mon, Jun 18, 2018 at 7:20 AM Kerim Aydin > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Are any referee candidates willing to share their planned blotting > > > policies? > > > > > > On Sun, 17 Jun 2018, Edward Murphy wrote: > > > > I initiate an Agoran decision to select the winner of the Referee > > > > election. The vote collector is the ADoP (me), the valid options are > > > > Aris and Corona and V.J. Rada and anyone else who becomes a candidate > > > > before voting ends, and the voting method is instant runoff. And I > > > > think quorum is 4 (due to 6 players voting on Proposal 8052). > > > > > > > > Rulekeepor election ends with no candidates. > > > > > > > > I initiate an Agoran decision to select the winner of the Treasuror > > > > election. The vote collector is the ADoP, the valid options are > > > > ATMunn and Corona and twg and anyone else who becomes a candidate > > > > before voting ends, and the voting method is instant runoff. And I > > > > think quorum is 4. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [Treasuror] new layout with zombies separated - do you like it?
No, the conversation. Didn't even notice the formatting. On 6/18/2018 2:30 PM, Timon Walshe-Grey wrote: Do you mean the formatting? Yeah, my email client is doing something bizarre with the formatting of messages I quote in replies. I reported it to the developers; apparently they're aware of it and working to fix it. Let me know if it's causing issues and I'll try to manually clean things up when replying to them. It only happens for quoted messages, not to ones I write personally, so it shouldn't affect my reports if I'm elected Treasuror. -twg ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ On June 18, 2018 6:08 PM, ATMunn wrote: yeah uh - what exactly happened here On 6/18/2018 2:05 PM, Timon Walshe-Grey wrote: This time you gave yourself the 2 incense but didn't take it away from G. (I accept partial responsibility, since it would probably have been more helpful if I'd written "numbers" instead of "number" in my CoE...) I'm not going to raise another formal CoE because this error effectively cancels out the six-incense-for-four-blots confusion, so I don't think it would be entirely unfair to let it self-ratify - I'll leave it up to your (and G.'s) discretion. -twg ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ On June 18, 2018 5:54 PM, Corona liliumalbum.ag...@gmail.com wrote: Sorry. Revision: +-++++---+++++++ |Entity |Ston|Appl|Corn|Ore|Lmbr|Cotn|Coin|Papr|Fabr|Incs| +-++++---+++++++ |ATMunn | 6| 32| 1| 0| 7| 0| 64| 14| 0| 12| |Aris | 5| 30| 9| 0| 5| 0| 97| 7| 0| 11| |Corona | 28| 76| 28| 0| 8| 30| 76| 29| 0| 13| |CuddleBeam | 11| 18| 9| 4| 8| 9| 50| 10| 0| 11| |G. | 25| 85| 15| 0| 18| 0| 116| 52| 0| 33| |Gaelan | 14| 28| 2| 6| 2| 0| 47| 10| 0| 11| |Kenyon | 14| 37| 4| 6| 20| 3| 45| 9| 0| 11| |Murphy | 5| 30| 4| 0| 8| 0| 56| 11| 0| 11| |omd | 0| 0| 0| 0| 0| 0| 0| 0| 0| 0| |Ouri | 0| 10| 0| 0| 0| 0| 24| 4| 0| 11| |PSS | 5| 15| 0| 0| 5| 0| 20| 5| 0| 3| |Trigon | 6| 11| 15| 4| 2| 15| 30| 7| 0| 11| |twg | 3| 8| 0| 2| 5| 0| 14| 5| 0| 3| |VJ Rada | 10| 55| 2| 0| 10| 0| 78| 17| 0| 11| +-++++---+++++++ |Entity |Ston|Appl|Corn|Ore|Lmbr|Cotn|Coin|Papr|Fabr|Incs| +-++++---+++++++ |nichdel | 0| 5| 0| 0| 0| 0| 10| 2| 0| 3| |o | 0| 0| 0| 0| 0| 0| 0| 0| 0| 0| |pokes | 0| 0| 0| 0| 0| 0| 0| 0| 0| 0| |Quazie | 0| 0| 0| 0| 0| 0| 0| 0| 0| 0| |Telnaior | 0| 0| 0| 0| 0| 0| 0| 0| 0| 0| |天火狐 | 0| 5| 0| 0| 0| 0| 10| 2| 0| 3| +-++++---+++++++ |farm (1,-1) | 0| 0| 3| 0| 0| 3| 0| 0| 0| 0| |mine (-1,-1) | 3| 0| 0| 2| 0| 0| 0| 0| 0| 0| |mine (1,1) | 3| 0| 0| 2| 0| 0| 0| 0| 0| 0| |orchard (-1,1) | 0| 3| 0| 0| 3| 0| 0| 0| 0| 0| |Corona’s ref. (0,2) | 0| 0| 0| 0| 0| 0| 259| 0| 0| 0| |Corona’s mine (2,2) | 12| 0| 0| 8| 0| 0| 0| 0| 0| 0| |Corona’s orch. (2,1) | 0| 6| 0| 0| 6| 0| 0| 0| 0| 0| |Corona’s mine (2,-1) | 12| 0| 0| 4| 0| 0| 0| 0| 0| 0| |Corona’s orch. (2,-2)| 0| 6| 0| 0| 6| 0| 0| 0| 0| 0| |Corona’s farm (1,-2) | 0| 0| 6| 0| 0| 6| 0| 0| 0| 0| |ATMunn’s farm (1,3) | 0| 0| 18| 0| 0| 18| 0| 0| 0| 0| |Trigon’s mine (0,-2) | 3| 0| 0| 2| 0| 0| 0| 0| 0| 0| |twg’s orch. (5,0) | 0| 3| 0| 0| 3| 0| 0| 0| 0| 0| |FPW | 0| 0| 0| 0| 0| 0| 0| 0| 0| 0| |Agora | 0| 0| 0| 0| 0| 0| 384| 0| 0| 0| +-++++---+++++++ |Entity |Ston|Appl|Corn|Ore|Lmbr|Cotn|Coin|Papr|Fabr|Incs| +-++++---+++++++ The following abbreviations are used in the table above: Ston = stone Appl = apples Lmbr = lumber Cotn = cotton Coin = coins Papr = papers Fabr = fabric Incs = incense PSS = Publius Scribonius Scholasticus FPW = Finger Pointing Workaround ref. = refinery orch. = orchard Recent changes (most recent first, times in UTC, non-self-ratifying): [Mon Jun 18 00:00] new week begins (assets are produced in facilities) [Sun Jun 17 23:38:23] Trigon moved to and built a mine at (0,-2), destroying 4 apples and 5 lumber [Sun Jun 17 23:09:03] Corona collected assets from (2,1) moved around and built facilities at (2,-1), (2,-2) and (1,-2). Total assets destroyed: 5 apples, 11 lumber, 9 coins and 12 stones [Sun Jun 17 16:52:49] Murphy paid 14 coins to Agora for land auctions [Sun Jun 17 22:32:00] Trigon nabbed stuffs at (+1,-1), (-1,-1), (-1,+1), destroying 7 apples [Thu Jun 14 23:04:03] VJ Rada pended the proposal “Pledges-b-gone” with paper [Thu, 14 Jun 2018 03:48:19 – disputed, possibly occurred at a different time] PSS received a welcome package as a consequence of proposal 8051 being adopted [Wed Jun 13 16:32:51] ATMunn destroyed 2 incense to expunge blots [Wed Jun 13 16:22:32] Corona destroyed 3 (more) incense to expunge blots [Tue Jun 12 18:54:37] Corona destroyed 6 incense to expunge blots [Tue Jun 12 08:2
Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [Treasuror] new layout with zombies separated - do you like it?
oh haha I hadn't even been thinking of my balance. Yeah if that ratified it would be true to "intent" (at least on my side) and "fairness" (4 incs for 4 blots). On Mon, 18 Jun 2018, Timon Walshe-Grey wrote: > Yes, Corona's incense balance is correct now. But yours, G., was 33 in the > last report, and is still 33, despite giving 2 incense to Corona. > > When I said it "effectively cancels out the six-incense-for-four-blots > confusion", I meant that it would have the same effect as if you hadn't given > Corona the incense, and e had only destroyed 4 incense to expunge eir 4 blots > - which presumably would have been your respective intentions if you'd been > aware at the time that the attempt to impose Summary Judgement would be > ineffective. I'm aware this makes assumptions about your intentions which > aren't necessarily my place to make, which is why I left it up to either of > you (or, technically, I suppose, anyone else) to make an actual CoE if you > felt it appropriate. > > (I also have a feeling that I'm horribly overthinking this!) > > -twg > > > ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ > > On June 18, 2018 6:09 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote: > > > > > > > E had 20 incense in the last report. > > > > Indicated on transfers: > > > > - destroyed 3 to expunge 3 blots. > > - destroyed 6 to expunge 4 blots (questionable). > > - given 2 by G. > > > > Net, counting the questionable 6: 13 incense. > > > > On Mon, 18 Jun 2018, Timon Walshe-Grey wrote: > > > > > > > This time you gave yourself the 2 incense but didn't take it away from G. > > > (I accept partial responsibility, since it would probably have been more > > > helpful if I'd written "numbers" instead of "number" in my CoE...) > > > > > > I'm not going to raise another formal CoE because this error effectively > > > cancels out the six-incense-for-four-blots confusion, so I don't think it > > > would be entirely unfair to let it self-ratify - I'll leave it up to your > > > (and G.'s) discretion. > > > > > > -twg > > > > > > ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ > > > > > > On June 18, 2018 5:54 PM, Corona liliumalbum.ag...@gmail.com wrote: > > > > > > > Sorry. Revision: > > > > > > > > +-++++---+++++++ > > > > > > > > |Entity |Ston|Appl|Corn|Ore|Lmbr|Cotn|Coin|Papr|Fabr|Incs| > > > > > > > > +-++++---+++++++ > > > > > > > > |ATMunn | 6| 32| 1| 0| 7| 0| 64| 14| 0| 12| > > > > > > > > |Aris | 5| 30| 9| 0| 5| 0| 97| 7| 0| 11| > > > > > > > > |Corona | 28| 76| 28| 0| 8| 30| 76| 29| 0| 13| > > > > > > > > |CuddleBeam | 11| 18| 9| 4| 8| 9| 50| 10| 0| 11| > > > > > > > > |G. | 25| 85| 15| 0| 18| 0| 116| 52| 0| 33| > > > > > > > > |Gaelan | 14| 28| 2| 6| 2| 0| 47| 10| 0| 11| > > > > > > > > |Kenyon | 14| 37| 4| 6| 20| 3| 45| 9| 0| 11| > > > > > > > > |Murphy | 5| 30| 4| 0| 8| 0| 56| 11| 0| 11| > > > > > > > > |omd | 0| 0| 0| 0| 0| 0| 0| 0| 0| 0| > > > > > > > > |Ouri | 0| 10| 0| 0| 0| 0| 24| 4| 0| 11| > > > > > > > > |PSS | 5| 15| 0| 0| 5| 0| 20| 5| 0| 3| > > > > > > > > |Trigon | 6| 11| 15| 4| 2| 15| 30| 7| 0| 11| > > > > > > > > |twg | 3| 8| 0| 2| 5| 0| 14| 5| 0| 3| > > > > > > > > |VJ Rada | 10| 55| 2| 0| 10| 0| 78| 17| 0| 11| > > > > > > > > +-++++---+++++++ > > > > > > > > |Entity |Ston|Appl|Corn|Ore|Lmbr|Cotn|Coin|Papr|Fabr|Incs| > > > > > > > > +-++++---+++++++ > > > > > > > > |nichdel | 0| 5| 0| 0| 0| 0| 10| 2| 0| 3| > > > > > > > > |o | 0| 0| 0| 0| 0| 0| 0| 0| 0| 0| > > > > > > > > |pokes | 0| 0| 0| 0| 0| 0| 0| 0| 0| 0| > > > > > > > > |Quazie | 0| 0| 0| 0| 0| 0| 0| 0| 0| 0| > > > > > > > > |Telnaior | 0| 0| 0| 0| 0| 0| 0| 0| 0| 0| > > > > > > > > |天火狐 | 0| 5| 0| 0| 0| 0| 10| 2| 0| 3| > > > > > > > > +-++++---+++++++ > > > > > > > > |farm (1,-1) | 0| 0| 3| 0| 0| 3| 0| 0| 0| 0| > > > > > > > > |mine (-1,-1) | 3| 0| 0| 2| 0| 0| 0| 0| 0| 0| > > > > > > > > |mine (1,1) | 3| 0| 0| 2| 0| 0| 0| 0| 0| 0| > > > > > > > > |orchard (-1,1) | 0| 3| 0| 0| 3| 0| 0| 0| 0| 0| > > > > > > > > |Corona’s ref. (0,2) | 0| 0| 0| 0| 0| 0| 259| 0| 0| 0| > > > > > > > > |Corona’s mine (2,2) | 12| 0| 0| 8| 0| 0| 0| 0| 0| 0| > > > > > > > > |Corona’s orch. (2,1) | 0| 6| 0| 0| 6| 0| 0| 0| 0| 0| > > > > > > > > |Corona’s mine (2,-1) | 12| 0| 0| 4| 0| 0| 0| 0| 0| 0| > > > > > > > > |Corona’s orch. (2,-2)| 0| 6| 0| 0| 6| 0| 0| 0| 0| 0| > > > > > > > > |Corona’s farm (1,-2) | 0| 0| 6| 0| 0| 6| 0| 0| 0| 0| > > > > > > > > |ATMunn’s farm (1,3) | 0| 0| 18| 0| 0| 18| 0| 0| 0| 0| > > > > > > > > |Trigon’s mine (0,-2) | 3| 0| 0| 2| 0| 0| 0| 0| 0| 0| > > > > > > > > |twg’s orch. (5,0) | 0| 3| 0| 0| 3| 0| 0| 0| 0| 0| > > > > > > > > |FPW | 0| 0| 0| 0| 0| 0| 0| 0| 0| 0| > > > > > > > > |Agora | 0| 0| 0| 0| 0| 0| 384| 0| 0
Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [Treasuror] new layout with zombies separated - do you like it?
Do you mean the formatting? Yeah, my email client is doing something bizarre with the formatting of messages I quote in replies. I reported it to the developers; apparently they're aware of it and working to fix it. Let me know if it's causing issues and I'll try to manually clean things up when replying to them. It only happens for quoted messages, not to ones I write personally, so it shouldn't affect my reports if I'm elected Treasuror. -twg ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ On June 18, 2018 6:08 PM, ATMunn wrote: > > > yeah uh - what exactly happened here > > On 6/18/2018 2:05 PM, Timon Walshe-Grey wrote: > > > This time you gave yourself the 2 incense but didn't take it away from G. > > (I accept partial responsibility, since it would probably have been more > > helpful if I'd written "numbers" instead of "number" in my CoE...) > > > > I'm not going to raise another formal CoE because this error effectively > > cancels out the six-incense-for-four-blots confusion, so I don't think it > > would be entirely unfair to let it self-ratify - I'll leave it up to your > > (and G.'s) discretion. > > > > -twg > > > > ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ > > > > On June 18, 2018 5:54 PM, Corona liliumalbum.ag...@gmail.com wrote: > > > > > Sorry. Revision: > > > > > > +-++++---+++++++ > > > > > > |Entity |Ston|Appl|Corn|Ore|Lmbr|Cotn|Coin|Papr|Fabr|Incs| > > > > > > +-++++---+++++++ > > > > > > |ATMunn | 6| 32| 1| 0| 7| 0| 64| 14| 0| 12| > > > > > > |Aris | 5| 30| 9| 0| 5| 0| 97| 7| 0| 11| > > > > > > |Corona | 28| 76| 28| 0| 8| 30| 76| 29| 0| 13| > > > > > > |CuddleBeam | 11| 18| 9| 4| 8| 9| 50| 10| 0| 11| > > > > > > |G. | 25| 85| 15| 0| 18| 0| 116| 52| 0| 33| > > > > > > |Gaelan | 14| 28| 2| 6| 2| 0| 47| 10| 0| 11| > > > > > > |Kenyon | 14| 37| 4| 6| 20| 3| 45| 9| 0| 11| > > > > > > |Murphy | 5| 30| 4| 0| 8| 0| 56| 11| 0| 11| > > > > > > |omd | 0| 0| 0| 0| 0| 0| 0| 0| 0| 0| > > > > > > |Ouri | 0| 10| 0| 0| 0| 0| 24| 4| 0| 11| > > > > > > |PSS | 5| 15| 0| 0| 5| 0| 20| 5| 0| 3| > > > > > > |Trigon | 6| 11| 15| 4| 2| 15| 30| 7| 0| 11| > > > > > > |twg | 3| 8| 0| 2| 5| 0| 14| 5| 0| 3| > > > > > > |VJ Rada | 10| 55| 2| 0| 10| 0| 78| 17| 0| 11| > > > > > > +-++++---+++++++ > > > > > > |Entity |Ston|Appl|Corn|Ore|Lmbr|Cotn|Coin|Papr|Fabr|Incs| > > > > > > +-++++---+++++++ > > > > > > |nichdel | 0| 5| 0| 0| 0| 0| 10| 2| 0| 3| > > > > > > |o | 0| 0| 0| 0| 0| 0| 0| 0| 0| 0| > > > > > > |pokes | 0| 0| 0| 0| 0| 0| 0| 0| 0| 0| > > > > > > |Quazie | 0| 0| 0| 0| 0| 0| 0| 0| 0| 0| > > > > > > |Telnaior | 0| 0| 0| 0| 0| 0| 0| 0| 0| 0| > > > > > > |天火狐 | 0| 5| 0| 0| 0| 0| 10| 2| 0| 3| > > > > > > +-++++---+++++++ > > > > > > |farm (1,-1) | 0| 0| 3| 0| 0| 3| 0| 0| 0| 0| > > > > > > |mine (-1,-1) | 3| 0| 0| 2| 0| 0| 0| 0| 0| 0| > > > > > > |mine (1,1) | 3| 0| 0| 2| 0| 0| 0| 0| 0| 0| > > > > > > |orchard (-1,1) | 0| 3| 0| 0| 3| 0| 0| 0| 0| 0| > > > > > > |Corona’s ref. (0,2) | 0| 0| 0| 0| 0| 0| 259| 0| 0| 0| > > > > > > |Corona’s mine (2,2) | 12| 0| 0| 8| 0| 0| 0| 0| 0| 0| > > > > > > |Corona’s orch. (2,1) | 0| 6| 0| 0| 6| 0| 0| 0| 0| 0| > > > > > > |Corona’s mine (2,-1) | 12| 0| 0| 4| 0| 0| 0| 0| 0| 0| > > > > > > |Corona’s orch. (2,-2)| 0| 6| 0| 0| 6| 0| 0| 0| 0| 0| > > > > > > |Corona’s farm (1,-2) | 0| 0| 6| 0| 0| 6| 0| 0| 0| 0| > > > > > > |ATMunn’s farm (1,3) | 0| 0| 18| 0| 0| 18| 0| 0| 0| 0| > > > > > > |Trigon’s mine (0,-2) | 3| 0| 0| 2| 0| 0| 0| 0| 0| 0| > > > > > > |twg’s orch. (5,0) | 0| 3| 0| 0| 3| 0| 0| 0| 0| 0| > > > > > > |FPW | 0| 0| 0| 0| 0| 0| 0| 0| 0| 0| > > > > > > |Agora | 0| 0| 0| 0| 0| 0| 384| 0| 0| 0| > > > > > > +-++++---+++++++ > > > > > > |Entity |Ston|Appl|Corn|Ore|Lmbr|Cotn|Coin|Papr|Fabr|Incs| > > > > > > +-++++---+++++++ > > > > > > The following abbreviations are used in the table above: > > > > > > Ston = stone > > > > > > Appl = apples > > > > > > Lmbr = lumber > > > > > > Cotn = cotton > > > > > > Coin = coins > > > > > > Papr = papers > > > > > > Fabr = fabric > > > > > > Incs = incense > > > > > > PSS = Publius Scribonius Scholasticus > > > > > > FPW = Finger Pointing Workaround > > > > > > ref. = refinery > > > > > > orch. = orchard > > > > > > Recent changes (most recent first, times in UTC, non-self-ratifying): > > > > > > [Mon Jun 18 00:00] new week begins (assets are produced in facilities) > > > > > > [Sun Jun 17 23:38:23] Trigon moved to and built a mine at (0,-2), > > > > > > destroying 4 apples and 5 lumber > > > > > > [Sun Jun 17 23:09:03] Corona collected assets from (2,1) moved around and > > > > > > built faci
Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [Treasuror] new layout with zombies separated - do you like it?
Yes, Corona's incense balance is correct now. But yours, G., was 33 in the last report, and is still 33, despite giving 2 incense to Corona. When I said it "effectively cancels out the six-incense-for-four-blots confusion", I meant that it would have the same effect as if you hadn't given Corona the incense, and e had only destroyed 4 incense to expunge eir 4 blots - which presumably would have been your respective intentions if you'd been aware at the time that the attempt to impose Summary Judgement would be ineffective. I'm aware this makes assumptions about your intentions which aren't necessarily my place to make, which is why I left it up to either of you (or, technically, I suppose, anyone else) to make an actual CoE if you felt it appropriate. (I also have a feeling that I'm horribly overthinking this!) -twg ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ On June 18, 2018 6:09 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote: > > > E had 20 incense in the last report. > > Indicated on transfers: > > - destroyed 3 to expunge 3 blots. > - destroyed 6 to expunge 4 blots (questionable). > - given 2 by G. > > Net, counting the questionable 6: 13 incense. > > On Mon, 18 Jun 2018, Timon Walshe-Grey wrote: > > > > This time you gave yourself the 2 incense but didn't take it away from G. > > (I accept partial responsibility, since it would probably have been more > > helpful if I'd written "numbers" instead of "number" in my CoE...) > > > > I'm not going to raise another formal CoE because this error effectively > > cancels out the six-incense-for-four-blots confusion, so I don't think it > > would be entirely unfair to let it self-ratify - I'll leave it up to your > > (and G.'s) discretion. > > > > -twg > > > > ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ > > > > On June 18, 2018 5:54 PM, Corona liliumalbum.ag...@gmail.com wrote: > > > > > Sorry. Revision: > > > > > > +-++++---+++++++ > > > > > > |Entity |Ston|Appl|Corn|Ore|Lmbr|Cotn|Coin|Papr|Fabr|Incs| > > > > > > +-++++---+++++++ > > > > > > |ATMunn | 6| 32| 1| 0| 7| 0| 64| 14| 0| 12| > > > > > > |Aris | 5| 30| 9| 0| 5| 0| 97| 7| 0| 11| > > > > > > |Corona | 28| 76| 28| 0| 8| 30| 76| 29| 0| 13| > > > > > > |CuddleBeam | 11| 18| 9| 4| 8| 9| 50| 10| 0| 11| > > > > > > |G. | 25| 85| 15| 0| 18| 0| 116| 52| 0| 33| > > > > > > |Gaelan | 14| 28| 2| 6| 2| 0| 47| 10| 0| 11| > > > > > > |Kenyon | 14| 37| 4| 6| 20| 3| 45| 9| 0| 11| > > > > > > |Murphy | 5| 30| 4| 0| 8| 0| 56| 11| 0| 11| > > > > > > |omd | 0| 0| 0| 0| 0| 0| 0| 0| 0| 0| > > > > > > |Ouri | 0| 10| 0| 0| 0| 0| 24| 4| 0| 11| > > > > > > |PSS | 5| 15| 0| 0| 5| 0| 20| 5| 0| 3| > > > > > > |Trigon | 6| 11| 15| 4| 2| 15| 30| 7| 0| 11| > > > > > > |twg | 3| 8| 0| 2| 5| 0| 14| 5| 0| 3| > > > > > > |VJ Rada | 10| 55| 2| 0| 10| 0| 78| 17| 0| 11| > > > > > > +-++++---+++++++ > > > > > > |Entity |Ston|Appl|Corn|Ore|Lmbr|Cotn|Coin|Papr|Fabr|Incs| > > > > > > +-++++---+++++++ > > > > > > |nichdel | 0| 5| 0| 0| 0| 0| 10| 2| 0| 3| > > > > > > |o | 0| 0| 0| 0| 0| 0| 0| 0| 0| 0| > > > > > > |pokes | 0| 0| 0| 0| 0| 0| 0| 0| 0| 0| > > > > > > |Quazie | 0| 0| 0| 0| 0| 0| 0| 0| 0| 0| > > > > > > |Telnaior | 0| 0| 0| 0| 0| 0| 0| 0| 0| 0| > > > > > > |天火狐 | 0| 5| 0| 0| 0| 0| 10| 2| 0| 3| > > > > > > +-++++---+++++++ > > > > > > |farm (1,-1) | 0| 0| 3| 0| 0| 3| 0| 0| 0| 0| > > > > > > |mine (-1,-1) | 3| 0| 0| 2| 0| 0| 0| 0| 0| 0| > > > > > > |mine (1,1) | 3| 0| 0| 2| 0| 0| 0| 0| 0| 0| > > > > > > |orchard (-1,1) | 0| 3| 0| 0| 3| 0| 0| 0| 0| 0| > > > > > > |Corona’s ref. (0,2) | 0| 0| 0| 0| 0| 0| 259| 0| 0| 0| > > > > > > |Corona’s mine (2,2) | 12| 0| 0| 8| 0| 0| 0| 0| 0| 0| > > > > > > |Corona’s orch. (2,1) | 0| 6| 0| 0| 6| 0| 0| 0| 0| 0| > > > > > > |Corona’s mine (2,-1) | 12| 0| 0| 4| 0| 0| 0| 0| 0| 0| > > > > > > |Corona’s orch. (2,-2)| 0| 6| 0| 0| 6| 0| 0| 0| 0| 0| > > > > > > |Corona’s farm (1,-2) | 0| 0| 6| 0| 0| 6| 0| 0| 0| 0| > > > > > > |ATMunn’s farm (1,3) | 0| 0| 18| 0| 0| 18| 0| 0| 0| 0| > > > > > > |Trigon’s mine (0,-2) | 3| 0| 0| 2| 0| 0| 0| 0| 0| 0| > > > > > > |twg’s orch. (5,0) | 0| 3| 0| 0| 3| 0| 0| 0| 0| 0| > > > > > > |FPW | 0| 0| 0| 0| 0| 0| 0| 0| 0| 0| > > > > > > |Agora | 0| 0| 0| 0| 0| 0| 384| 0| 0| 0| > > > > > > +-++++---+++++++ > > > > > > |Entity |Ston|Appl|Corn|Ore|Lmbr|Cotn|Coin|Papr|Fabr|Incs| > > > > > > +-++++---+++++++ > > > > > > The following abbreviations are used in the table above: > > > > > > Ston = stone > > > > > > Appl = apples > > > > > > Lmbr = lumber > > > > > > Cotn = cotton > > > > > > Coin = coins > > > > > > Papr = papers > > > >
Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [Treasuror] new layout with zombies separated - do you like it?
E had 20 incense in the last report. Indicated on transfers: - destroyed 3 to expunge 3 blots. - destroyed 6 to expunge 4 blots (questionable). - given 2 by G. Net, counting the questionable 6: 13 incense. On Mon, 18 Jun 2018, Timon Walshe-Grey wrote: > This time you gave yourself the 2 incense but didn't take it away from G. (I > accept partial responsibility, since it would probably have been more helpful > if I'd written "numbers" instead of "number" in my CoE...) > > I'm not going to raise another formal CoE because this error effectively > cancels out the six-incense-for-four-blots confusion, so I don't think it > would be entirely unfair to let it self-ratify - I'll leave it up to your > (and G.'s) discretion. > > -twg > > > ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ > > On June 18, 2018 5:54 PM, Corona wrote: > > > > > > > Sorry. Revision: > > > > +-++++---+++++++ > > > > |Entity |Ston|Appl|Corn|Ore|Lmbr|Cotn|Coin|Papr|Fabr|Incs| > > > > +-++++---+++++++ > > > > |ATMunn | 6| 32| 1| 0| 7| 0| 64| 14| 0| 12| > > > > |Aris | 5| 30| 9| 0| 5| 0| 97| 7| 0| 11| > > > > |Corona | 28| 76| 28| 0| 8| 30| 76| 29| 0| 13| > > > > |CuddleBeam | 11| 18| 9| 4| 8| 9| 50| 10| 0| 11| > > > > |G. | 25| 85| 15| 0| 18| 0| 116| 52| 0| 33| > > > > |Gaelan | 14| 28| 2| 6| 2| 0| 47| 10| 0| 11| > > > > |Kenyon | 14| 37| 4| 6| 20| 3| 45| 9| 0| 11| > > > > |Murphy | 5| 30| 4| 0| 8| 0| 56| 11| 0| 11| > > > > |omd | 0| 0| 0| 0| 0| 0| 0| 0| 0| 0| > > > > |Ouri | 0| 10| 0| 0| 0| 0| 24| 4| 0| 11| > > > > |PSS | 5| 15| 0| 0| 5| 0| 20| 5| 0| 3| > > > > |Trigon | 6| 11| 15| 4| 2| 15| 30| 7| 0| 11| > > > > |twg | 3| 8| 0| 2| 5| 0| 14| 5| 0| 3| > > > > |VJ Rada | 10| 55| 2| 0| 10| 0| 78| 17| 0| 11| > > > > +-++++---+++++++ > > > > |Entity |Ston|Appl|Corn|Ore|Lmbr|Cotn|Coin|Papr|Fabr|Incs| > > > > +-++++---+++++++ > > > > |nichdel | 0| 5| 0| 0| 0| 0| 10| 2| 0| 3| > > > > |o | 0| 0| 0| 0| 0| 0| 0| 0| 0| 0| > > > > |pokes | 0| 0| 0| 0| 0| 0| 0| 0| 0| 0| > > > > |Quazie | 0| 0| 0| 0| 0| 0| 0| 0| 0| 0| > > > > |Telnaior | 0| 0| 0| 0| 0| 0| 0| 0| 0| 0| > > > > |天火狐 | 0| 5| 0| 0| 0| 0| 10| 2| 0| 3| > > > > +-++++---+++++++ > > > > |farm (1,-1) | 0| 0| 3| 0| 0| 3| 0| 0| 0| 0| > > > > |mine (-1,-1) | 3| 0| 0| 2| 0| 0| 0| 0| 0| 0| > > > > |mine (1,1) | 3| 0| 0| 2| 0| 0| 0| 0| 0| 0| > > > > |orchard (-1,1) | 0| 3| 0| 0| 3| 0| 0| 0| 0| 0| > > > > |Corona’s ref. (0,2) | 0| 0| 0| 0| 0| 0| 259| 0| 0| 0| > > > > |Corona’s mine (2,2) | 12| 0| 0| 8| 0| 0| 0| 0| 0| 0| > > > > |Corona’s orch. (2,1) | 0| 6| 0| 0| 6| 0| 0| 0| 0| 0| > > > > |Corona’s mine (2,-1) | 12| 0| 0| 4| 0| 0| 0| 0| 0| 0| > > > > |Corona’s orch. (2,-2)| 0| 6| 0| 0| 6| 0| 0| 0| 0| 0| > > > > |Corona’s farm (1,-2) | 0| 0| 6| 0| 0| 6| 0| 0| 0| 0| > > > > |ATMunn’s farm (1,3) | 0| 0| 18| 0| 0| 18| 0| 0| 0| 0| > > > > |Trigon’s mine (0,-2) | 3| 0| 0| 2| 0| 0| 0| 0| 0| 0| > > > > |twg’s orch. (5,0) | 0| 3| 0| 0| 3| 0| 0| 0| 0| 0| > > > > |FPW | 0| 0| 0| 0| 0| 0| 0| 0| 0| 0| > > > > |Agora | 0| 0| 0| 0| 0| 0| 384| 0| 0| 0| > > > > +-++++---+++++++ > > > > |Entity |Ston|Appl|Corn|Ore|Lmbr|Cotn|Coin|Papr|Fabr|Incs| > > > > +-++++---+++++++ > > > > The following abbreviations are used in the table above: > > > > Ston = stone > > > > Appl = apples > > > > Lmbr = lumber > > > > Cotn = cotton > > > > Coin = coins > > > > Papr = papers > > > > Fabr = fabric > > > > Incs = incense > > > > PSS = Publius Scribonius Scholasticus > > > > FPW = Finger Pointing Workaround > > > > ref. = refinery > > > > orch. = orchard > > > > Recent changes (most recent first, times in UTC, non-self-ratifying): > > > > [Mon Jun 18 00:00] new week begins (assets are produced in facilities) > > > > [Sun Jun 17 23:38:23] Trigon moved to and built a mine at (0,-2), > > > > destroying 4 apples and 5 lumber > > > > [Sun Jun 17 23:09:03] Corona collected assets from (2,1) moved around and > > > > built facilities at (2,-1), (2,-2) and (1,-2). Total assets destroyed: 5 > > > > apples, 11 lumber, 9 coins and 12 stones > > > > [Sun Jun 17 16:52:49] Murphy paid 14 coins to Agora for land auctions > > > > [Sun Jun 17 22:32:00] Trigon nabbed stuffs at (+1,-1), (-1,-1), (-1,+1), > > > > destroying 7 apples > > > > [Thu Jun 14 23:04:03] VJ Rada pended the proposal “Pledges-b-gone” with > > > > paper > > > > [Thu, 14 Jun 2018 03:48:19 – disputed, possibly occurred at a different > > > > time] PSS received a welcome package as a consequence of proposal 8051 > > > > being adopted > > > > [Wed Jun 13 16:32:51] ATMunn destroyed 2 incense to expunge blots > > > > [W
Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [Treasuror] new layout with zombies separated - do you like it?
yeah uh - what exactly happened here On 6/18/2018 2:05 PM, Timon Walshe-Grey wrote: This time you gave yourself the 2 incense but didn't take it away from G. (I accept partial responsibility, since it would probably have been more helpful if I'd written "numbers" instead of "number" in my CoE...) I'm not going to raise another formal CoE because this error effectively cancels out the six-incense-for-four-blots confusion, so I don't think it would be entirely unfair to let it self-ratify - I'll leave it up to your (and G.'s) discretion. -twg ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ On June 18, 2018 5:54 PM, Corona wrote: Sorry. Revision: +-++++---+++++++ |Entity |Ston|Appl|Corn|Ore|Lmbr|Cotn|Coin|Papr|Fabr|Incs| +-++++---+++++++ |ATMunn | 6| 32| 1| 0| 7| 0| 64| 14| 0| 12| |Aris | 5| 30| 9| 0| 5| 0| 97| 7| 0| 11| |Corona | 28| 76| 28| 0| 8| 30| 76| 29| 0| 13| |CuddleBeam | 11| 18| 9| 4| 8| 9| 50| 10| 0| 11| |G. | 25| 85| 15| 0| 18| 0| 116| 52| 0| 33| |Gaelan | 14| 28| 2| 6| 2| 0| 47| 10| 0| 11| |Kenyon | 14| 37| 4| 6| 20| 3| 45| 9| 0| 11| |Murphy | 5| 30| 4| 0| 8| 0| 56| 11| 0| 11| |omd | 0| 0| 0| 0| 0| 0| 0| 0| 0| 0| |Ouri | 0| 10| 0| 0| 0| 0| 24| 4| 0| 11| |PSS | 5| 15| 0| 0| 5| 0| 20| 5| 0| 3| |Trigon | 6| 11| 15| 4| 2| 15| 30| 7| 0| 11| |twg | 3| 8| 0| 2| 5| 0| 14| 5| 0| 3| |VJ Rada | 10| 55| 2| 0| 10| 0| 78| 17| 0| 11| +-++++---+++++++ |Entity |Ston|Appl|Corn|Ore|Lmbr|Cotn|Coin|Papr|Fabr|Incs| +-++++---+++++++ |nichdel | 0| 5| 0| 0| 0| 0| 10| 2| 0| 3| |o | 0| 0| 0| 0| 0| 0| 0| 0| 0| 0| |pokes | 0| 0| 0| 0| 0| 0| 0| 0| 0| 0| |Quazie | 0| 0| 0| 0| 0| 0| 0| 0| 0| 0| |Telnaior | 0| 0| 0| 0| 0| 0| 0| 0| 0| 0| |天火狐 | 0| 5| 0| 0| 0| 0| 10| 2| 0| 3| +-++++---+++++++ |farm (1,-1) | 0| 0| 3| 0| 0| 3| 0| 0| 0| 0| |mine (-1,-1) | 3| 0| 0| 2| 0| 0| 0| 0| 0| 0| |mine (1,1) | 3| 0| 0| 2| 0| 0| 0| 0| 0| 0| |orchard (-1,1) | 0| 3| 0| 0| 3| 0| 0| 0| 0| 0| |Corona’s ref. (0,2) | 0| 0| 0| 0| 0| 0| 259| 0| 0| 0| |Corona’s mine (2,2) | 12| 0| 0| 8| 0| 0| 0| 0| 0| 0| |Corona’s orch. (2,1) | 0| 6| 0| 0| 6| 0| 0| 0| 0| 0| |Corona’s mine (2,-1) | 12| 0| 0| 4| 0| 0| 0| 0| 0| 0| |Corona’s orch. (2,-2)| 0| 6| 0| 0| 6| 0| 0| 0| 0| 0| |Corona’s farm (1,-2) | 0| 0| 6| 0| 0| 6| 0| 0| 0| 0| |ATMunn’s farm (1,3) | 0| 0| 18| 0| 0| 18| 0| 0| 0| 0| |Trigon’s mine (0,-2) | 3| 0| 0| 2| 0| 0| 0| 0| 0| 0| |twg’s orch. (5,0) | 0| 3| 0| 0| 3| 0| 0| 0| 0| 0| |FPW | 0| 0| 0| 0| 0| 0| 0| 0| 0| 0| |Agora | 0| 0| 0| 0| 0| 0| 384| 0| 0| 0| +-++++---+++++++ |Entity |Ston|Appl|Corn|Ore|Lmbr|Cotn|Coin|Papr|Fabr|Incs| +-++++---+++++++ The following abbreviations are used in the table above: Ston = stone Appl = apples Lmbr = lumber Cotn = cotton Coin = coins Papr = papers Fabr = fabric Incs = incense PSS = Publius Scribonius Scholasticus FPW = Finger Pointing Workaround ref. = refinery orch. = orchard Recent changes (most recent first, times in UTC, non-self-ratifying): [Mon Jun 18 00:00] new week begins (assets are produced in facilities) [Sun Jun 17 23:38:23] Trigon moved to and built a mine at (0,-2), destroying 4 apples and 5 lumber [Sun Jun 17 23:09:03] Corona collected assets from (2,1) moved around and built facilities at (2,-1), (2,-2) and (1,-2). Total assets destroyed: 5 apples, 11 lumber, 9 coins and 12 stones [Sun Jun 17 16:52:49] Murphy paid 14 coins to Agora for land auctions [Sun Jun 17 22:32:00] Trigon nabbed stuffs at (+1,-1), (-1,-1), (-1,+1), destroying 7 apples [Thu Jun 14 23:04:03] VJ Rada pended the proposal “Pledges-b-gone” with paper [Thu, 14 Jun 2018 03:48:19 – disputed, possibly occurred at a different time] PSS received a welcome package as a consequence of proposal 8051 being adopted [Wed Jun 13 16:32:51] ATMunn destroyed 2 incense to expunge blots [Wed Jun 13 16:22:32] Corona destroyed 3 (more) incense to expunge blots [Tue Jun 12 18:54:37] Corona destroyed 6 incense to expunge blots [Tue Jun 12 08:25:03] Trigon moved around, failed to loot (-1,-1), and failed to build an orchard at (0,-2), spending 6 apples and 2 coins [Tue Jun 12 08:09:57] twg moved around, looted (1,1), and built an orchard at (5,0), spending 7 apples and 5 stones [Tue Jun 12 07:40:53] twg paid 6 coins to Agora for land auction [Tue Jun 12 06:03:08] Corona paid 5 coins to Agora for land auction [Tue Jun 12 01:39:56] VJ Rada created the contract “Contract Competition Contract”, transferring a coin to Agora [Tue Jun 12 01:30:16] VJ Rada created the contract “Sillyness by contract” (sic), transferring a coin to Agora [Tue Jun 12 01:11:30] G. paid 8 coins to Agora for land auctio
DIS: Re: BUS: [Treasuror] new layout with zombies separated - do you like it?
This time you gave yourself the 2 incense but didn't take it away from G. (I accept partial responsibility, since it would probably have been more helpful if I'd written "numbers" instead of "number" in my CoE...) I'm not going to raise another formal CoE because this error effectively cancels out the six-incense-for-four-blots confusion, so I don't think it would be entirely unfair to let it self-ratify - I'll leave it up to your (and G.'s) discretion. -twg ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ On June 18, 2018 5:54 PM, Corona wrote: > > > Sorry. Revision: > > +-++++---+++++++ > > |Entity |Ston|Appl|Corn|Ore|Lmbr|Cotn|Coin|Papr|Fabr|Incs| > > +-++++---+++++++ > > |ATMunn | 6| 32| 1| 0| 7| 0| 64| 14| 0| 12| > > |Aris | 5| 30| 9| 0| 5| 0| 97| 7| 0| 11| > > |Corona | 28| 76| 28| 0| 8| 30| 76| 29| 0| 13| > > |CuddleBeam | 11| 18| 9| 4| 8| 9| 50| 10| 0| 11| > > |G. | 25| 85| 15| 0| 18| 0| 116| 52| 0| 33| > > |Gaelan | 14| 28| 2| 6| 2| 0| 47| 10| 0| 11| > > |Kenyon | 14| 37| 4| 6| 20| 3| 45| 9| 0| 11| > > |Murphy | 5| 30| 4| 0| 8| 0| 56| 11| 0| 11| > > |omd | 0| 0| 0| 0| 0| 0| 0| 0| 0| 0| > > |Ouri | 0| 10| 0| 0| 0| 0| 24| 4| 0| 11| > > |PSS | 5| 15| 0| 0| 5| 0| 20| 5| 0| 3| > > |Trigon | 6| 11| 15| 4| 2| 15| 30| 7| 0| 11| > > |twg | 3| 8| 0| 2| 5| 0| 14| 5| 0| 3| > > |VJ Rada | 10| 55| 2| 0| 10| 0| 78| 17| 0| 11| > > +-++++---+++++++ > > |Entity |Ston|Appl|Corn|Ore|Lmbr|Cotn|Coin|Papr|Fabr|Incs| > > +-++++---+++++++ > > |nichdel | 0| 5| 0| 0| 0| 0| 10| 2| 0| 3| > > |o | 0| 0| 0| 0| 0| 0| 0| 0| 0| 0| > > |pokes | 0| 0| 0| 0| 0| 0| 0| 0| 0| 0| > > |Quazie | 0| 0| 0| 0| 0| 0| 0| 0| 0| 0| > > |Telnaior | 0| 0| 0| 0| 0| 0| 0| 0| 0| 0| > > |天火狐 | 0| 5| 0| 0| 0| 0| 10| 2| 0| 3| > > +-++++---+++++++ > > |farm (1,-1) | 0| 0| 3| 0| 0| 3| 0| 0| 0| 0| > > |mine (-1,-1) | 3| 0| 0| 2| 0| 0| 0| 0| 0| 0| > > |mine (1,1) | 3| 0| 0| 2| 0| 0| 0| 0| 0| 0| > > |orchard (-1,1) | 0| 3| 0| 0| 3| 0| 0| 0| 0| 0| > > |Corona’s ref. (0,2) | 0| 0| 0| 0| 0| 0| 259| 0| 0| 0| > > |Corona’s mine (2,2) | 12| 0| 0| 8| 0| 0| 0| 0| 0| 0| > > |Corona’s orch. (2,1) | 0| 6| 0| 0| 6| 0| 0| 0| 0| 0| > > |Corona’s mine (2,-1) | 12| 0| 0| 4| 0| 0| 0| 0| 0| 0| > > |Corona’s orch. (2,-2)| 0| 6| 0| 0| 6| 0| 0| 0| 0| 0| > > |Corona’s farm (1,-2) | 0| 0| 6| 0| 0| 6| 0| 0| 0| 0| > > |ATMunn’s farm (1,3) | 0| 0| 18| 0| 0| 18| 0| 0| 0| 0| > > |Trigon’s mine (0,-2) | 3| 0| 0| 2| 0| 0| 0| 0| 0| 0| > > |twg’s orch. (5,0) | 0| 3| 0| 0| 3| 0| 0| 0| 0| 0| > > |FPW | 0| 0| 0| 0| 0| 0| 0| 0| 0| 0| > > |Agora | 0| 0| 0| 0| 0| 0| 384| 0| 0| 0| > > +-++++---+++++++ > > |Entity |Ston|Appl|Corn|Ore|Lmbr|Cotn|Coin|Papr|Fabr|Incs| > > +-++++---+++++++ > > The following abbreviations are used in the table above: > > Ston = stone > > Appl = apples > > Lmbr = lumber > > Cotn = cotton > > Coin = coins > > Papr = papers > > Fabr = fabric > > Incs = incense > > PSS = Publius Scribonius Scholasticus > > FPW = Finger Pointing Workaround > > ref. = refinery > > orch. = orchard > > Recent changes (most recent first, times in UTC, non-self-ratifying): > > [Mon Jun 18 00:00] new week begins (assets are produced in facilities) > > [Sun Jun 17 23:38:23] Trigon moved to and built a mine at (0,-2), > > destroying 4 apples and 5 lumber > > [Sun Jun 17 23:09:03] Corona collected assets from (2,1) moved around and > > built facilities at (2,-1), (2,-2) and (1,-2). Total assets destroyed: 5 > > apples, 11 lumber, 9 coins and 12 stones > > [Sun Jun 17 16:52:49] Murphy paid 14 coins to Agora for land auctions > > [Sun Jun 17 22:32:00] Trigon nabbed stuffs at (+1,-1), (-1,-1), (-1,+1), > > destroying 7 apples > > [Thu Jun 14 23:04:03] VJ Rada pended the proposal “Pledges-b-gone” with > > paper > > [Thu, 14 Jun 2018 03:48:19 – disputed, possibly occurred at a different > > time] PSS received a welcome package as a consequence of proposal 8051 > > being adopted > > [Wed Jun 13 16:32:51] ATMunn destroyed 2 incense to expunge blots > > [Wed Jun 13 16:22:32] Corona destroyed 3 (more) incense to expunge blots > > [Tue Jun 12 18:54:37] Corona destroyed 6 incense to expunge blots > > [Tue Jun 12 08:25:03] Trigon moved around, failed to loot (-1,-1), and > > failed to build an orchard at (0,-2), spending 6 apples and 2 coins > > [Tue Jun 12 08:09:57] twg moved around, looted (1,1), and built an orchard > > at (5,0), spending 7 apples and 5 stones > > [Tue Jun 12 07:40:53] twg paid 6 coins to Agora for land auction > > [Tue Jun 12 06:03:08] Corona paid 5 coins to Agora for land auction > > [Tue Jun 12 01:39:56] VJ Rada created th
DIS: Re: BUS: [Treasuror] new layout with zombies separated - do you like it?
> [Tue Jun 12 18:54:37] Corona destroyed 6 incense to expunge blots oh, did you want to let your 6 incense for 4 blots self-ratify - you'd mostly convinced me of your argument actually (that it all failed) but up to you.
Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Election update
On Mon, 18 Jun 2018, Alex Smith wrote: > On Mon, 2018-06-18 at 09:40 -0700, Kerim Aydin wrote: > > Honestly the main reason I didn't run again is that checking for past > > reports is a pain even with timely ADoP reports at hand (and I didn't > > want to be haphazard either). > > This is the main reason I quit Referee too (although checking for late > reports was actually a requirement at that point). > > Checking for late reports sounds like something that could > realistically be automated. Perhaps that would help to fix the issue? > ADoP seems like possibly the most automatable of all the offices. Yeah, back when the requirement was to Card or certify that absolutely no crimes had happened recently, I thought to myself I'd never take on that job. Also, one thing I realized in doing the task is that a lot of the SHALLs for non-report things (mainly starting processes) were put in when we had no quantified punishment, but the SHALLS were put in, not because anyone cared about things being a little late, but to trigger deputization ability when the game stalled out on a missing officer. Definitely a different mindset. I'd say, of all the things I'm willing to mandate for automation, using the [Officer] Tag in the subject line and other format stuff is what I'd be most comfortable with (of course, this is a bad week to say that all reports have to go to OFF!)
Re: Fw: DIS: Re: BUS: Election update
You got it right. On 6/18/2018 1:13 PM, Timon Walshe-Grey wrote: "TTttPF"... I think I got that right? I'm not very good at this, am I. -twg ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ On June 18, 2018 5:12 PM, Timon Walshe-Grey wrote: I vote [twg, ATMunn, Corona] in the Treasuror election and PRESENT in the Referee election. -twg ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ On June 17, 2018 6:55 PM, Edward Murphy emurph...@zoho.com wrote: I initiate an Agoran decision to select the winner of the Referee election. The vote collector is the ADoP (me), the valid options are Aris and Corona and V.J. Rada and anyone else who becomes a candidate before voting ends, and the voting method is instant runoff. And I think quorum is 4 (due to 6 players voting on Proposal 8052). Rulekeepor election ends with no candidates. I initiate an Agoran decision to select the winner of the Treasuror election. The vote collector is the ADoP, the valid options are ATMunn and Corona and twg and anyone else who becomes a candidate before voting ends, and the voting method is instant runoff. And I think quorum is 4.
DIS: Re: BUS: Election update
I vote [twg, ATMunn, Corona] in the Treasuror election and PRESENT in the Referee election. -twg ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ On June 17, 2018 6:55 PM, Edward Murphy wrote: > > > I initiate an Agoran decision to select the winner of the Referee > > election. The vote collector is the ADoP (me), the valid options are > > Aris and Corona and V.J. Rada and anyone else who becomes a candidate > > before voting ends, and the voting method is instant runoff. And I > > think quorum is 4 (due to 6 players voting on Proposal 8052). > > Rulekeepor election ends with no candidates. > > I initiate an Agoran decision to select the winner of the Treasuror > > election. The vote collector is the ADoP, the valid options are > > ATMunn and Corona and twg and anyone else who becomes a candidate > > before voting ends, and the voting method is instant runoff. And I > > think quorum is 4.
Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Election update
On Mon, 2018-06-18 at 09:40 -0700, Kerim Aydin wrote: > Honestly the main reason I didn't run again is that checking for past > reports is a pain even with timely ADoP reports at hand (and I didn't > want to be haphazard either). This is the main reason I quit Referee too (although checking for late reports was actually a requirement at that point). Checking for late reports sounds like something that could realistically be automated. Perhaps that would help to fix the issue? ADoP seems like possibly the most automatable of all the offices. -- ais523
Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Election update
Honestly the main reason I didn't run again is that checking for past reports is a pain even with timely ADoP reports at hand (and I didn't want to be haphazard either). In one of the old blotting systems, finger-pointing for specific crimes was the job of whomever tracked the records involved; e.g. the ADoP did the finger-pointing for late Reports, Treasuror for late payments, etc. Might work a little better? On Mon, 18 Jun 2018, Aris Merchant wrote: > I very much liked your blotting policy. I can't say exactly how careful I'm > going to be about checking for missing reports, so my policy may end up > being more like o's in that regard. I maintain, however, that Corona's > policies don't sound entirely unreasonable, and e probably has more time to > devote to the job than I do. I merely don't want a return to V.J. Rada's > previous policies, as I found them excessively punitive, and I still don't > trust em with this particular office after how e last left it. > > -Aris > > > On Mon, Jun 18, 2018 at 7:20 AM Kerim Aydin wrote: > > > > > > > Are any referee candidates willing to share their planned blotting > > policies? > > > > On Sun, 17 Jun 2018, Edward Murphy wrote: > > > I initiate an Agoran decision to select the winner of the Referee > > > election. The vote collector is the ADoP (me), the valid options are > > > Aris and Corona and V.J. Rada and anyone else who becomes a candidate > > > before voting ends, and the voting method is instant runoff. And I > > > think quorum is 4 (due to 6 players voting on Proposal 8052). > > > > > > Rulekeepor election ends with no candidates. > > > > > > I initiate an Agoran decision to select the winner of the Treasuror > > > election. The vote collector is the ADoP, the valid options are > > > ATMunn and Corona and twg and anyone else who becomes a candidate > > > before voting ends, and the voting method is instant runoff. And I > > > think quorum is 4. > > > > > > > > > > >
Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Election update
I very much liked your blotting policy. I can't say exactly how careful I'm going to be about checking for missing reports, so my policy may end up being more like o's in that regard. I maintain, however, that Corona's policies don't sound entirely unreasonable, and e probably has more time to devote to the job than I do. I merely don't want a return to V.J. Rada's previous policies, as I found them excessively punitive, and I still don't trust em with this particular office after how e last left it. -Aris On Mon, Jun 18, 2018 at 7:20 AM Kerim Aydin wrote: > > > Are any referee candidates willing to share their planned blotting > policies? > > On Sun, 17 Jun 2018, Edward Murphy wrote: > > I initiate an Agoran decision to select the winner of the Referee > > election. The vote collector is the ADoP (me), the valid options are > > Aris and Corona and V.J. Rada and anyone else who becomes a candidate > > before voting ends, and the voting method is instant runoff. And I > > think quorum is 4 (due to 6 players voting on Proposal 8052). > > > > Rulekeepor election ends with no candidates. > > > > I initiate an Agoran decision to select the winner of the Treasuror > > election. The vote collector is the ADoP, the valid options are > > ATMunn and Corona and twg and anyone else who becomes a candidate > > before voting ends, and the voting method is instant runoff. And I > > think quorum is 4. > > > > > >
Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Election update
False, what made you think that? Players are dissatisfied if reports are missed; oh yes, persons missing reports will be punished with atom-clock precision and a camel's perseverance. (and an impeachment will be attempted if the person fails to respond for long enough) ~Corona On Mon, Jun 18, 2018 at 5:09 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote: > > > So to clarify, I shouldn't expect a consistent punishment if I miss a > report? > > On Mon, 18 Jun 2018, Corona wrote: > > Well, if it's YOU who's asking, then why, I'll blot in exactly the same > way > > as you! ;) > > > > Nah, I'll just consider the individual circumstances of each case and > Eris' > > mood when blotting, I don't really have any blanket policies. I will blot > > in such a way that maximizes the sum of satisfaction of the players, both > > at the moment and in the future. > > > > ~Corona > > > > On Mon, Jun 18, 2018 at 4:19 PM, Kerim Aydin > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Are any referee candidates willing to share their planned blotting > > > policies? > > > > > > On Sun, 17 Jun 2018, Edward Murphy wrote: > > > > I initiate an Agoran decision to select the winner of the Referee > > > > election. The vote collector is the ADoP (me), the valid options are > > > > Aris and Corona and V.J. Rada and anyone else who becomes a candidate > > > > before voting ends, and the voting method is instant runoff. And I > > > > think quorum is 4 (due to 6 players voting on Proposal 8052). > > > > > > > > Rulekeepor election ends with no candidates. > > > > > > > > I initiate an Agoran decision to select the winner of the Treasuror > > > > election. The vote collector is the ADoP, the valid options are > > > > ATMunn and Corona and twg and anyone else who becomes a candidate > > > > before voting ends, and the voting method is instant runoff. And I > > > > think quorum is 4. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Election update
So to clarify, I shouldn't expect a consistent punishment if I miss a report? On Mon, 18 Jun 2018, Corona wrote: > Well, if it's YOU who's asking, then why, I'll blot in exactly the same way > as you! ;) > > Nah, I'll just consider the individual circumstances of each case and Eris' > mood when blotting, I don't really have any blanket policies. I will blot > in such a way that maximizes the sum of satisfaction of the players, both > at the moment and in the future. > > ~Corona > > On Mon, Jun 18, 2018 at 4:19 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote: > > > > > > > Are any referee candidates willing to share their planned blotting > > policies? > > > > On Sun, 17 Jun 2018, Edward Murphy wrote: > > > I initiate an Agoran decision to select the winner of the Referee > > > election. The vote collector is the ADoP (me), the valid options are > > > Aris and Corona and V.J. Rada and anyone else who becomes a candidate > > > before voting ends, and the voting method is instant runoff. And I > > > think quorum is 4 (due to 6 players voting on Proposal 8052). > > > > > > Rulekeepor election ends with no candidates. > > > > > > I initiate an Agoran decision to select the winner of the Treasuror > > > election. The vote collector is the ADoP, the valid options are > > > ATMunn and Corona and twg and anyone else who becomes a candidate > > > before voting ends, and the voting method is instant runoff. And I > > > think quorum is 4. > > > > > > > > > > >
Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Election update
Well, if it's YOU who's asking, then why, I'll blot in exactly the same way as you! ;) Nah, I'll just consider the individual circumstances of each case and Eris' mood when blotting, I don't really have any blanket policies. I will blot in such a way that maximizes the sum of satisfaction of the players, both at the moment and in the future. ~Corona On Mon, Jun 18, 2018 at 4:19 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote: > > > Are any referee candidates willing to share their planned blotting > policies? > > On Sun, 17 Jun 2018, Edward Murphy wrote: > > I initiate an Agoran decision to select the winner of the Referee > > election. The vote collector is the ADoP (me), the valid options are > > Aris and Corona and V.J. Rada and anyone else who becomes a candidate > > before voting ends, and the voting method is instant runoff. And I > > think quorum is 4 (due to 6 players voting on Proposal 8052). > > > > Rulekeepor election ends with no candidates. > > > > I initiate an Agoran decision to select the winner of the Treasuror > > election. The vote collector is the ADoP, the valid options are > > ATMunn and Corona and twg and anyone else who becomes a candidate > > before voting ends, and the voting method is instant runoff. And I > > think quorum is 4. > > > > > >
Re: BUS: Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [Herald][Medal of Honour]
On 6/18/2018 10:38 AM, Corona wrote: I issue a humiliating public reminder to the following persons for not voting on the current Medals of Honour decision: Gaelan, G., Cuddle Beam, Trigon, Corona, VJ Rada, Kenyon, Ouri, twg, Publius Scribonius Scholasticus, omd, o, Quazie, pokes, 天火狐、Telnaior (Not really though, if you don't feel like either candidate deserves a medal, then just don't vote and I'll fail it) I would not blame anyone for thinking this. :P
DIS: Re: BUS: Election update
Are any referee candidates willing to share their planned blotting policies? On Sun, 17 Jun 2018, Edward Murphy wrote: > I initiate an Agoran decision to select the winner of the Referee > election. The vote collector is the ADoP (me), the valid options are > Aris and Corona and V.J. Rada and anyone else who becomes a candidate > before voting ends, and the voting method is instant runoff. And I > think quorum is 4 (due to 6 players voting on Proposal 8052). > > Rulekeepor election ends with no candidates. > > I initiate an Agoran decision to select the winner of the Treasuror > election. The vote collector is the ADoP, the valid options are > ATMunn and Corona and twg and anyone else who becomes a candidate > before voting ends, and the voting method is instant runoff. And I > think quorum is 4. > >
Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [Referee] Weekly Report
"I speak to the capitalists who continue to buy zombies, and to the most impoverished who don't have the money to." Best sentence in here. On 6/17/2018 6:07 PM, Reuben Staley wrote: I destroy 3 incense to expunge 3 blots from myself. My formal apology follows. Holding an office is potentially the largest responsibility any Agoran citizen can willingly take upon themselves. Abusing such a responsibility is not only an insult to the Spirit of the Game, but to fellow Agoran citizens and the office which an Agoran holds. Unfortunately, I must admit that I am responsible of this crime. I have disgraced the Spirit of the Game, the office if Cartographor, but most importantly, I have disgraced you all. In this apology, I speak to friends and enemies alike. I speak to the holders of the most important offices, and to those who have never even run. I speak to the capitalists who continue to buy zombies, and to the most impoverished who don't have the money to. I speak to those who bid in every land auction with surprising regularity. And, I speak to every single person that lies in between the two extremes. I am truly sorry. Please forgive me. I'll try to get another report out tomorrow. You have but hours before the land auction ends, so please bid. I realize now this is more of an advertisement than an apology at this point. Therefore, I also apologise for making this into an advertisement. I apologize for treating Agora as a joke sometimes. Finally, I apologise if this wasn't necessary and for not looking at the rules to check if it was. On Sun, Jun 17, 2018, 14:50 Kerim Aydin wrote: The Police Blotter (Referee's Weekly Report) Date of last report: 03 Jun 2018 Date of this report: 17 Jun 2018 (all times UTC) Note: Corona at one point did this: "I destroy 6 incense to expunge my 6 blots." At that point, my records show e only had 4 Blots, because my attempt to impose Summary Judgement on em had failed (no crime specified). If that's correct, my interpretation is that e paid 6 incense to destroy 4 blots, because of the special way that expunging works (R2555): If expunging blots would reduce a person's blots to less than 0, their blots are instead reduced to 0 but the cost of expunging, if any, is not reduced. An alternate interpretation is that the whole exchange failed (I can't see any arguments that only 4 incense were destroyed). Discussion or CFJ on the matter welcome if desired. BLOT HOLDINGS (asset record - self-ratifying) PersonBlots - Murphy 4 V.J. Rada2 Trigon 3 Kenyon 10 BLOT HISTORY PersonChange Date Reason -- --- V.J. Rada -1 01 May 2018 03:46:51 Apology G. +1(f) 20 May 2018 23:49:32 Late Registrar Weekly Corona +1(f) 27 May 2018 19:14:05 Late Treasuror Weekly Trigon +1(f) 27 May 2018 19:14:05 Late Cartographer Weekly Corona +1(f) 27 May 2018 19:14:05 Late Herald Weekly Kenyon +1(D) 27 May 2018 19:14:05 Late SLR Corona +2(D) 31 May 2018 17:04:45 Late Treasuror Weekly Trigon +2(D) 31 May 2018 17:04:45 Late Cartographer Weekly Kenyon +3(D) 31 May 2018 17:04:45 Late SLR Murphy +1(D) 31 May 2018 17:04:45 Late ADoP Weekly Murphy +1(D) 31 May 2018 17:04:45 Late Arbitor Weekly V.J. Rada +1(f) 31 May 2018 17:04:45 Late Notary Weekly G. -1 03 Jun 2018 18:46:43 with incense (time of last report) Corona -4 12 Jun 2018 18:54:37 with incense (overpaid) ATMunn +2(f) 13 Jun 2018 15:56:29 Late Tailor Monthly Kenyon +2(f) 13 Jun 2018 15:56:29 Late Rulekeepor Monthly Corona +3(f) 13 Jun 2018 16:00:17 Late Treasuror Weekly Kenyon +4(f) 13 Jun 2018 16:00:17 Late Rulekeepor Weekly Corona -3 13 Jun 2018 16:22:32 with incense ATMunn -2 13 Jun 2018 16:32:51 with incense (f)=forgivable by R2557 (D)=loses next monthly salary for noted office by R2559 FROM THE POLICE SCANNER (details of justice since last report) On Wed, 13 Jun 2018, Kerim Aydin wrote: On Wed, 6 Jun 2018, Kerim Aydin wrote: On behalf of ATMunn (via contract) I point the finger at the following players for missing a weekly report last week: Corona, for Treasuror (last on May 5). I levy a fine of 3 blots (3rd straight blotting for this), forgivable (report produced since this offense). Kenyon, for Rulekeepor (last Apr 7). I levy a fine of 4 blots (4th straight blotting for this), forgivable (salary no longer an issue). On Wed, 13 Jun 2018, Kerim Aydin wrote: On Fri, 1 Jun 2018, Kerim Aydin wrote: On behalf of ATMunn (via contract) I point the finger at the follow
