Re: DIS: hmmm?

2018-06-24 Thread omd
> On Sun, Jun 24, 2018 at 11:50 PM comex wrote: …okay, last time I thought I just forgot to change my sender name to 'omd', but I definitely did so for this message; it seems Gmail is just bugged. Looks like it works after switching back to the old Gmail.

Re: DIS: hmmm?

2018-06-24 Thread comex
On Sun, Jun 24, 2018 at 7:04 AM ATMunn wrote: > > I sent a message to BUS yesterday in the thread following the latest > Promotor report. Did anyone get it? I don't seem to have gotten a copy > myself, but that could just be my client. FYI – my qmail logs were set to rotate way too quickly to che

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [Distributor] about agora-official

2018-06-24 Thread Aris Merchant
Agreed. I don't really like the THAN thing though. How about something brand new. Technomancer? Forumkeeper? Something with a ring to it. -Aris On Sun, Jun 24, 2018, 10:20 PM Kerim Aydin wrote: > > > I would happily endorse such a thing. In addition to a special title, > a HAN is appropriate I

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [Distributor] about agora-official

2018-06-24 Thread Kerim Aydin
I would happily endorse such a thing. In addition to a special title, a HAN is appropriate I think. On Sun, 24 Jun 2018, Publius Scribonius Scholasticus wrote: > I would like to express my sincere thanks to omd for eir continued > support of the mailing lists. I hope that everyone recognizes w

DIS: Re: BUS: Pledge handoff to Notary

2018-06-24 Thread Ørjan Johansen
On Mon, 25 Jun 2018, Rebecca wrote: I do so. You were too late as proposal 8050 passed, and pledges are no longer retractable. Fortunately that doesn't matter, as all your pledges were older than 60 days. Greetings, Ørjan. On Fri, Jun 15, 2018 at 9:02 AM, Ned Strange wrote: Without o

DIS: Re: BUS: [Distributor] about agora-official

2018-06-24 Thread Publius Scribonius Scholasticus
I would like to express my sincere thanks to omd for eir continued support of the mailing lists. I hope that everyone recognizes what hard work it is to manage web servers. I would be interested in awarding them the patent title, "Technical Hero of Agora" or a lesser patent title, if a heroic title

Re: DIS: hmmm?

2018-06-24 Thread ATMunn
Must have been directly from em, because I didn't recieve the in between message. On 6/24/2018 5:08 PM, Publius Scribonius Scholasticus wrote: Did you receive it directly from me or via discussion? Publius Scribonius Scholasticus On Sun, Jun 24, 2018 at 5:06 PM, Timon Walshe-Grey wrote:

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Resending the message because apparently nobody got it

2018-06-24 Thread ATMunn
Not about a missing email, no. Sorry if that was misunderstood. On 6/24/2018 2:51 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote: Is this case about a missing email, or about using "I do the same thing" to try and vote? If it's about the email problems, could you provide as Evidence the message from your Sent Mail or

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Judgement in CFJ 3646

2018-06-24 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Mon, 25 Jun 2018, Rebecca wrote: > wasn't this overhauled? in a cfj by alexis banning future conditionals > in votes? i don't know where I am anymore. Proposal 7922 last October fixed the Rule to make it absolutely clear that it's evaluated at the end of the voting period. IIRC it was follo

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Judgement in CFJ 3646

2018-06-24 Thread Rebecca
wasn't this overhauled? in a cfj by alexis banning future conditionals in votes? i don't know where I am anymore. Situationally, though, it evaluates as FOR. ais's hypothetical situation in which infinite people vote that way means only that if infinite people voted with this conditional, the vote

DIS: Regarding CFJ 3642

2018-06-24 Thread Publius Scribonius Scholasticus
I am writing to let everyone know that my judgement on CFJ 3642 will be delayed, as I wait for some evidence from omd. I would also like to take this time to thank G. and omd for their cooperation in providing evidence for my judgement.

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Judgement in CFJ 3646

2018-06-24 Thread Publius Scribonius Scholasticus
Nope, votes are the exception to that. Votes are evaluated at the time of resolution. Publius Scribonius Scholasticus On Sun, Jun 24, 2018 at 7:40 PM, Rebecca wrote: > We evaluate votes at the time they are cast (iirc, unless we added > future conditionals back in). This vote, under the cir

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Judgement in CFJ 3646

2018-06-24 Thread Rebecca
We evaluate votes at the time they are cast (iirc, unless we added future conditionals back in). This vote, under the circumstances, was a conditional with sufficient context within the game state. If somebody made a vote like this without any previous context, it may be ambiguous. Under these circ

DIS: Re: BUS: Judgement in CFJ 3646

2018-06-24 Thread Alex Smith
On Mon, 2018-06-25 at 09:22 +1000, Rebecca wrote: > Corona voted in this way > "> I vote on these proposals in such a manner that, in a hypothetical > > alternate gamestate identical to the current one except for me never > > sending the message immediately before this one, and this message not > >

Re: DIS: hmmm?

2018-06-24 Thread Publius Scribonius Scholasticus
Did you receive it directly from me or via discussion? Publius Scribonius Scholasticus On Sun, Jun 24, 2018 at 5:06 PM, Timon Walshe-Grey wrote: > Yes! What did you change? > > -twg > > > ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ > > On June 24, 2018 8:58 PM, Publius Scribonius Scholasticus > wrot

Re: DIS: hmmm?

2018-06-24 Thread Publius Scribonius Scholasticus
Did you receive this? On Sun, Jun 24, 2018 at 4:55 PM, Timon Walshe-Grey wrote: > I haven't, no. Very bizarre. I have been receiving email from other Gmail > users like ATMunn and Corona, so I'm not sure what the problem might be. > > If it helps narrow anything down, the last email I received f

Re: DIS: hmmm?

2018-06-24 Thread Timon Walshe-Grey
I haven't, no. Very bizarre. I have been receiving email from other Gmail users like ATMunn and Corona, so I'm not sure what the problem might be. If it helps narrow anything down, the last email I received from you was on June 22, 2018 10:16 PM UTC, saying you liked Corona's suggestion of a hy

DIS: Re: BUS: Resending the message because apparently nobody got it

2018-06-24 Thread Kerim Aydin
Is this case about a missing email, or about using "I do the same thing" to try and vote? If it's about the email problems, could you provide as Evidence the message from your Sent Mail or something, with headers? On Sun, 24 Jun 2018, ATMunn wrote: > I CFJ on the following statement: > >B

DIS: Re: BUS: Resending the message because apparently nobody got it

2018-06-24 Thread Corona
​​Gratituous arguments: You need to "publish a notice" to vote. R478/Fora says: 'A public message is a message sent via a public forum, or sent to all players and containing a clear designation of intent to be public. [...] A person "publishes" or "announces" something by sending a public message.

Re: DIS: hmmm?

2018-06-24 Thread ATMunn
twg On 6/24/2018 12:55 PM, Publius Scribonius Scholasticus wrote: This could be one of the infamous problems with gmail. Have you received this message? Publius Scribonius Scholasticus On Sun, Jun 24, 2018 at 12:30 PM, Timon Walshe-Grey wrote: I haven't received it, and I also haven't r

Re: DIS: hmmm?

2018-06-24 Thread Publius Scribonius Scholasticus
This could be one of the infamous problems with gmail. Have you received this message? Publius Scribonius Scholasticus On Sun, Jun 24, 2018 at 12:30 PM, Timon Walshe-Grey wrote: > I haven't received it, and I also haven't received any of PSS's messages to > DIS that you're all replying to.

Re: DIS: hmmm?

2018-06-24 Thread Timon Walshe-Grey
I haven't received it, and I also haven't received any of PSS's messages to DIS that you're all replying to. -twg ​​ ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ On June 24, 2018 4:20 PM, Corona wrote: > ​​ > > Neither have I. > > ~Corona > > On Sun, Jun 24, 2018 at 4:46 PM, Publius Scribonius Scholas

Re: DIS: hmmm?

2018-06-24 Thread Corona
Neither have I. ~Corona On Sun, Jun 24, 2018 at 4:46 PM, Publius Scribonius Scholasticus < p.scribonius.scholasti...@googlemail.com> wrote: > I have not received it. > > Publius Scribonius Scholasticus > > > On Sun, Jun 24, 2018 at 10:28 AM, ATMunn wrote: > > Nope, it was much later than t

Re: DIS: hmmm?

2018-06-24 Thread Publius Scribonius Scholasticus
I have not received it. Publius Scribonius Scholasticus On Sun, Jun 24, 2018 at 10:28 AM, ATMunn wrote: > Nope, it was much later than that. > > > On 6/24/2018 10:11 AM, Publius Scribonius Scholasticus wrote: >> >> This? >> >> >> Publius Scribonius Scholasticus >> >> >> >> -- F

Re: DIS: hmmm?

2018-06-24 Thread ATMunn
Nope, it was much later than that. On 6/24/2018 10:11 AM, Publius Scribonius Scholasticus wrote: This? Publius Scribonius Scholasticus -- Forwarded message -- From: ATMunn Date: Sat, Jun 23, 2018 at 11:09 AM Subject: Re: BUS: [Promotor] Distribution of Proposals 8054-80

Re: DIS: hmmm?

2018-06-24 Thread Publius Scribonius Scholasticus
This? Publius Scribonius Scholasticus -- Forwarded message -- From: ATMunn Date: Sat, Jun 23, 2018 at 11:09 AM Subject: Re: BUS: [Promotor] Distribution of Proposals 8054-8057 To: agora-busin...@agoranomic.org I do the same as the last three people in this thread. On 6

Re: DIS: hmmm?

2018-06-24 Thread ATMunn
It was just a reply. Probably 'BUS: Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [Promotor] Distribution of Proposals 8054-8057' On 6/24/2018 10:05 AM, Publius Scribonius Scholasticus wrote: What was it called? Publius Scribonius Scholasticus On Sun, Jun 24, 2018 at 10:04 AM, ATMunn wrote: I sent a message to BU

Re: DIS: hmmm?

2018-06-24 Thread Publius Scribonius Scholasticus
What was it called? Publius Scribonius Scholasticus On Sun, Jun 24, 2018 at 10:04 AM, ATMunn wrote: > I sent a message to BUS yesterday in the thread following the latest > Promotor report. Did anyone get it? I don't seem to have gotten a copy > myself, but that could just be my client.

DIS: hmmm?

2018-06-24 Thread ATMunn
I sent a message to BUS yesterday in the thread following the latest Promotor report. Did anyone get it? I don't seem to have gotten a copy myself, but that could just be my client.

DIS: Observation regarding OFF

2018-06-24 Thread Publius Scribonius Scholasticus
Interestingly, looking at the list of mailing lists on the mailman instance, OFF does not appear: https://mailman.agoranomic.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo Publius Scribonius Scholasticus

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Testo Testerino

2018-06-24 Thread Publius Scribonius Scholasticus
I received it from BUS and DIS, but not OFF. Publius Scribonius Scholasticus On Sun, Jun 24, 2018 at 8:41 AM, Publius Scribonius Scholasticus < p.scribonius.scholasti...@googlemail.com> wrote: > Received from business. > > > Publius Scribonius Scholasticus > > On Sat, Jun 23, 2018 at 1

Re: DIS: Testo Testerino

2018-06-24 Thread Publius Scribonius Scholasticus
Received from discussion. Publius Scribonius Scholasticus On Sat, Jun 23, 2018 at 11:20 PM, Ned Strange wrote: > Test > > -- > From V.J. Rada >

DIS: Re: BUS: Testo Testerino

2018-06-24 Thread Publius Scribonius Scholasticus
Received from business. Publius Scribonius Scholasticus On Sat, Jun 23, 2018 at 11:20 PM, Ned Strange wrote: > Test > > -- > From V.J. Rada >

Re: DIS: I'm no longer getting BUS messages

2018-06-24 Thread Publius Scribonius Scholasticus
I don't think that that is necessary. Publius Scribonius Scholasticus On Sat, Jun 23, 2018 at 9:55 PM, Ned Strange wrote: > I think it might be time to start using the method of doing actions by > directly messaging each player > > On Sun, Jun 24, 2018 at 11:55 AM, Ned Strange > wrote: >

DIS: Re: BUS: test post pls ignore

2018-06-24 Thread Publius Scribonius Scholasticus
received, if that helps. Publius Scribonius Scholasticus On Sat, Jun 23, 2018 at 9:23 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote: > > > bloop > > > >

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [Promotor] Distribution of Proposals 8054-8057

2018-06-24 Thread Publius Scribonius Scholasticus
I disagree. I think that the clear context resolves any ambiguity that may exist. Publius Scribonius Scholasticus On Sat, Jun 23, 2018 at 6:01 PM, Timon Walshe-Grey wrote: > Actually, I wonder if the problems mightn't run even deeper than that. I > don't think "I do the same thing as the l

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Testo Testerino

2018-06-24 Thread Rebecca
I also got it from OFF although I haven't been getting other messages from it. This shit gnarly man. We can officially designate anything as a public forum. Maybe we should start exploring options. On Sun, Jun 24, 2018 at 4:06 PM, Ørjan Johansen wrote: > On Sun, 24 Jun 2018, Corona wrote: > >> T