DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [ADoP] Interest intent

2020-06-15 Thread Rebecca via agora-discussion
ugh, voting cards are so useless. you can't even game the popularity index
with them now because of aris's recent amendment. sad!!

On Tue, Jun 16, 2020 at 1:44 PM nch via agora-business <
agora-busin...@agoranomic.org> wrote:

> On 6/15/20 9:52 PM, Rebecca via agora-official wrote:
> > Being without objection, I flip the interest switch of the webmaster to
> > participation
>
> As Webmastor I grant R. Lee a Voting Card.
>
> --
> nch
> Webmastor, NAX Exchange Manager, Pirate
>
>
>

-- 
>From R. Lee


Re: BUS: Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [ADoP ] Salaries - also [Treasuror CoE]

2020-06-15 Thread Rebecca via agora-discussion
I'll pay you then (or Murphy will, depending on the will of the people). So
unless anyone wants to point a finger at me for doing it untimely after
June 1, it will be fine, yep.

On Tue, Jun 16, 2020 at 10:51 AM Publius Scribonius Scholasticus via
agora-discussion  wrote:

> On 6/15/20 8:45 PM, Edward Murphy via agora-discussion wrote:
> > R. Lee wrote:
> >
> >> Okay, you're right about the first one (side-eye @ falsifian) but the
> >> second one is surely just a response to a COE and republishing the first
> >> report, not a new monthly report right?
> >
> > idk, it may be worth a CFJ. Most corrections probably fall within the
> > same reporting period as the original report, in which case that alone
> > is enough to prevent double salary.
> >
> > Regardless of how that shakes out, there's definitely value in recording
> > corrections, as it allows for a quick check of whether a report was
> > published within a given time period and may have self-ratified. (Also
> > why I retained the practice of recording CoEs in the report; though
> > thinking about that, maybe the report should also list denials, since
> > they turn the self-ratification timer back on.)
>
> Just informationally, I plan to complete my June report on time, so I
> think this won't matter in the end.
>
> --
> 
> Publius Scribonius Scholasticus, Herald, Referee, Tailor, Pirate
> Champion, Badge of the Great Agoran Revival, Badge of the Salted Earth
>


-- 
>From R. Lee


Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Fine, I destroy "Combinotron"

2020-06-15 Thread nch via agora-discussion
On 6/15/20 7:34 PM, Edward Murphy via agora-business wrote:
> Cuddlebeam wrote:
>
>> I intend, without objection, to transfer an amount of coins equal to the
>> current amount of coins in the Lost and Found Department from the Lost and
>> Found Department to the Plunder Partnership.
> I object to all intents to transfer assets from the Lost and Found
> Department. I'm open to withdrawing this objection on a case-by-case
> basis, though.

I know I'm self interested, but R. Lee *was* trying to get back eir own 
assets e accidentally sent to the L

-- 
nch
Webmastor, NAX Exchange Manager, Pirate




Re: BUS: Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [ADoP ] Salaries - also [Treasuror CoE]

2020-06-15 Thread Publius Scribonius Scholasticus via agora-discussion
On 6/15/20 8:45 PM, Edward Murphy via agora-discussion wrote:
> R. Lee wrote:
> 
>> Okay, you're right about the first one (side-eye @ falsifian) but the
>> second one is surely just a response to a COE and republishing the first
>> report, not a new monthly report right?
> 
> idk, it may be worth a CFJ. Most corrections probably fall within the
> same reporting period as the original report, in which case that alone
> is enough to prevent double salary.
> 
> Regardless of how that shakes out, there's definitely value in recording
> corrections, as it allows for a quick check of whether a report was
> published within a given time period and may have self-ratified. (Also
> why I retained the practice of recording CoEs in the report; though
> thinking about that, maybe the report should also list denials, since
> they turn the self-ratification timer back on.)

Just informationally, I plan to complete my June report on time, so I
think this won't matter in the end.

-- 

Publius Scribonius Scholasticus, Herald, Referee, Tailor, Pirate
Champion, Badge of the Great Agoran Revival, Badge of the Salted Earth


Re: BUS: Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [ADoP ] Salaries - also [Treasuror CoE]

2020-06-15 Thread Edward Murphy via agora-discussion

R. Lee wrote:


Okay, you're right about the first one (side-eye @ falsifian) but the
second one is surely just a response to a COE and republishing the first
report, not a new monthly report right?


idk, it may be worth a CFJ. Most corrections probably fall within the
same reporting period as the original report, in which case that alone
is enough to prevent double salary.

Regardless of how that shakes out, there's definitely value in recording
corrections, as it allows for a quick check of whether a report was
published within a given time period and may have self-ratified. (Also
why I retained the practice of recording CoEs in the report; though
thinking about that, maybe the report should also list denials, since
they turn the self-ratification timer back on.)


Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Fine, I destroy "Combinotron"

2020-06-15 Thread Aris Merchant via agora-discussion
On Mon, Jun 15, 2020 at 1:00 PM Publius Scribonius Scholasticus via
agora-discussion  wrote:

> On 6/15/20 3:59 PM, nch via agora-discussion wrote:
> > On 6/15/20 1:12 PM, Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion wrote:
> >>
> >> On 6/13/2020 5:16 PM, Rebecca via agora-business wrote:
> >>> I do intend to transfer a  victory card and also intend to transfer a
> >>> legislative card from the Lost and Found Department to myself, both
> without
> >>> objection.
> >> arrgh me hearties, is there a reason nobody be objecting to this one.
> >>
> >>
> > It's in my best interest for this intent to resolve.
> >
> Why?
>

nch and R. Lee codependents (according to the codependents contract).
Basically, their resources form a combined pool.

-Aris


Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Fine, I destroy "Combinotron"

2020-06-15 Thread Publius Scribonius Scholasticus via agora-discussion
On 6/15/20 3:59 PM, nch via agora-discussion wrote:
> On 6/15/20 1:12 PM, Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion wrote:
>>
>> On 6/13/2020 5:16 PM, Rebecca via agora-business wrote:
>>> I do intend to transfer a  victory card and also intend to transfer a
>>> legislative card from the Lost and Found Department to myself, both without
>>> objection.
>> arrgh me hearties, is there a reason nobody be objecting to this one.
>>
>>
> It's in my best interest for this intent to resolve.
> 
Why?

-- 

Publius Scribonius Scholasticus, Herald, Referee, Tailor, Pirate
Champion, Badge of the Great Agoran Revival, Badge of the Salted Earth


Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Fine, I destroy "Combinotron"

2020-06-15 Thread nch via agora-discussion
On 6/15/20 1:12 PM, Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion wrote:
>
> On 6/13/2020 5:16 PM, Rebecca via agora-business wrote:
>> I do intend to transfer a  victory card and also intend to transfer a
>> legislative card from the Lost and Found Department to myself, both without
>> objection.
> arrgh me hearties, is there a reason nobody be objecting to this one.
>
>
It's in my best interest for this intent to resolve.

-- 
nch
Webmastor, NAX Exchange Manager, Pirate




Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Fine, I destroy "Combinotron"

2020-06-15 Thread Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion


On 6/13/2020 5:09 PM, Jason Cobb via agora-discussion wrote:
>
> And Cuddlebeam said this:
> 
>> I intend, without objection, to transfer all coins belonging to the Lost
>> and Found Department to The Plunder Partnership.
> 
> 
> My reading is that Cuddlebeam only specified an intent to transfer the
> coins _already in_ in the L Dept. to the Plunder Partnership, which
> would mean that the new coins had no intent to transfer them, and thus
> would need another w/o objection intent to be transferred out.
> 

So now that I get to this point in the thread, I'm pretty sure having an
ambiguous reading and multiple possible values of "all" in Cuddlebeam's
intent is not going to pass the stringent intent requirements, for any of
the coins.

-G.



Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Fine, I destroy "Combinotron"

2020-06-15 Thread Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion


On 6/15/2020 11:28 AM, Aris Merchant wrote:
> On Mon, Jun 15, 2020 at 11:26 AM Jason Cobb wrote:
>> On 6/15/20 2:20 PM, Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion wrote:
>>> to be clear, I wasn't really following this conversation it just caught
>> my
>>> eye when someone replied to this bit - was this a contract muckup on R.
>>> Lee's that got some of eir cards stuck in LF?  (i wouldn't object to
>>> something like that).
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>> Yep, e transferred some cards & coins to a (scam) contract, then
>> destroyed it as the only party.
> 
> 
> The reason I feel iffy about this is that e was trying to scam other
> players out of their property, and yet e is apparently being allowed to
> retain eir property. On the other hand, e is forfeiting the coins...
> 
> -Aris

Very useful context, thanks.  I'm mulling it over myself now.






Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Fine, I destroy "Combinotron"

2020-06-15 Thread Aris Merchant via agora-discussion
On Mon, Jun 15, 2020 at 11:26 AM Jason Cobb via agora-discussion <
agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote:

> On 6/15/20 2:20 PM, Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion wrote:
> > to be clear, I wasn't really following this conversation it just caught
> my
> > eye when someone replied to this bit - was this a contract muckup on R.
> > Lee's that got some of eir cards stuck in LF?  (i wouldn't object to
> > something like that).
> >
> >
> >
>
> Yep, e transferred some cards & coins to a (scam) contract, then
> destroyed it as the only party.


The reason I feel iffy about this is that e was trying to scam other
players out of their property, and yet e is apparently being allowed to
retain eir property. On the other hand, e is forfeiting the coins...

-Aris

>
>


Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Fine, I destroy "Combinotron"

2020-06-15 Thread Jason Cobb via agora-discussion
On 6/15/20 2:20 PM, Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion wrote:
> to be clear, I wasn't really following this conversation it just caught my
> eye when someone replied to this bit - was this a contract muckup on R.
> Lee's that got some of eir cards stuck in LF?  (i wouldn't object to
> something like that).
>
>
>

Yep, e transferred some cards & coins to a (scam) contract, then
destroyed it as the only party.

-- 
Jason Cobb



Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Fine, I destroy "Combinotron"

2020-06-15 Thread Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion


On 6/15/2020 11:12 AM, Kerim Aydin wrote:
> 
> On 6/13/2020 5:16 PM, Rebecca via agora-business wrote:
>> I do intend to transfer a  victory card and also intend to transfer a
>> legislative card from the Lost and Found Department to myself, both without
>> objection.
> 
> arrgh me hearties, is there a reason nobody be objecting to this one.
>  

to be clear, I wasn't really following this conversation it just caught my
eye when someone replied to this bit - was this a contract muckup on R.
Lee's that got some of eir cards stuck in LF?  (i wouldn't object to
something like that).





Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Fine, I destroy "Combinotron"

2020-06-15 Thread Jason Cobb via agora-discussion
On 6/15/20 2:12 PM, Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion wrote:
> On 6/13/2020 5:16 PM, Rebecca via agora-business wrote:
>> I do intend to transfer a  victory card and also intend to transfer a
>> legislative card from the Lost and Found Department to myself, both without
>> objection.
> arrgh me hearties, is there a reason nobody be objecting to this one.
>
>

Cuddlebeam's intent was only for coins, so it would require a new intent
for the pirates to get it (also, it's not like we could meaningfully
split it anyway).

-- 
Jason Cobb



Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Fine, I destroy "Combinotron"

2020-06-15 Thread Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion


On 6/13/2020 5:16 PM, Rebecca via agora-business wrote:
> I do intend to transfer a  victory card and also intend to transfer a
> legislative card from the Lost and Found Department to myself, both without
> objection.

arrgh me hearties, is there a reason nobody be objecting to this one.




Re: DIS: Re: BUS: humble agoran farmer now has a pegleg and an eyepatch

2020-06-15 Thread James Cook via agora-discussion
On Mon, 15 Jun 2020 at 12:19, nch via agora-business
 wrote:
> On 6/14/20 10:32 PM, James Cook via agora-discussion wrote:
> >> I propose the following Parley:
> >>
> >> {
> >>
> >> Replace the last sentence (under PARLEY) with:
> >>
> >> If a Parley was proposed at least 2 days ago, at least 2/3rds (rounded
> >> up) of all Pirates consent to its contents, and it has not yet been
> >> applied, then any Pirate can apply it by announcement, causing this
> >> contract to be amended according to it.
> >>
> >> }
> >>
> >> (Motivation: give players a chance to escape if 2/3 try to bind the
> >> remaining 1/3 to unfavourable terms. I'd prefer 4 days, but starting
> >> with 2 since it's closer to the current situation.)
> >>
> >> - Falsifian
> > My tally so far:
> >
> > Consented:
> > Jason, P.S.S., Falsifian, R. Lee
> >
> > Not consented:
> > Cuddlebeam, nch, G.
> >
> > I think if one more party consents (and nobody joins) the Parley will
> > be enacted.
> >
> > - Falsifian
>
> I consent to the above parley
>
> --
> nch
> Webmastor, NAX Exchange Manager, Pirate

I forgot to count Bögtil, who joined in another thread, so we're only
at 5/8, not enough.

- Falsifian


Re: DIS: [Treasuror] New Report Format

2020-06-15 Thread ATMunn via agora-discussion

On 6/14/2020 11:10 PM, Reuben Staley via agora-discussion wrote:

On 2020-06-14 12:08, Reuben Staley wrote:
I've gotten this suggestion twice now. I want to mention that this was 
just a test to see if I could get markdown tables working. When I 
publish full reports, I'll actually generate the whole thing and push it


I'm back, nerds!

And with some new toys.

https://agoranomic.org/Treasuror/test

I fleshed out my script so that it can handle an entire weekly report at 
once.


Here's what I generated it from (likely what future textual reports will 
look like):


https://github.com/AgoraNomic/Treasuror/blob/master/forbes493

And here's the script that generated it:

https://github.com/AgoraNomic/Treasuror/blob/master/markdown.awk

Constructive criticism accepted.



very nice, i like it :) perhaps make the title centered though?

--
ATMunn
friendly neighborhood notary here :)


Re: DIS: Re: BUS: DracoLotto

2020-06-15 Thread Jason Cobb via agora-discussion
On 6/15/20 3:48 AM, Reuben Staley via agora-discussion wrote:
> On 2020-06-15 01:46, Rebecca via agora-discussion wrote:
>> the voting card failed, not necessarily the victory card
> Yes, that is what I meant.
>

:thonk:

Thanks for catching this.

-- 
Jason Cobb



Re: DIS: Draft report feedback

2020-06-15 Thread Cuddle Beam via agora-discussion
Ah, all good then.

On Mon, Jun 15, 2020 at 11:52 AM Rebecca via agora-discussion <
agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote:

> I already did intend to do that somewhere else
>
> On Mon, Jun 15, 2020 at 7:36 PM Cuddle Beam via agora-discussion <
> agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote:
>
> > I'll give you 72 hours to intend without objection to transfer those
> cards
> > (I don't know which they are) in the Lost and Found back to yourself (I
> > won't object, because I do want you to have them back). Otherwise I'll
> > consider them abandoned and I'll go for them myself (most likely with the
> > Plunder Partnership and Parley-ing what should happen with them).
> >
> > On Mon, Jun 15, 2020 at 10:44 AM Rebecca via agora-discussion <
> > agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote:
> >
> > > I actually have 0 cards of any type. I transferred 2 to Aris's lottery
> > and
> > > the other 2 to my now-destroyed contract, they reside in the Lost and
> > Found
> > > department now.
> > >
> > > On Mon, Jun 15, 2020 at 6:42 PM Cuddle Beam via agora-discussion <
> > > agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote:
> > >
> > > > >can we try to remember signalling
> > > >
> > > > What is signalling? The "[Attn. Treasuror]" thing, yes?
> > > >
> > > > On Mon, Jun 15, 2020 at 10:30 AM Reuben Staley via agora-discussion <
> > > > agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > It's me again! Just popping in to ask everyone's thoughts on this.
> I
> > > > > usually do the Treasuror stuff around Wednesday but there's been a
> > bit
> > > > > of extra work this past week so I'm putting out a mid-week draft
> > > report.
> > > > > I think I did a pretty good job, but there were so many messages
> > that I
> > > > > probably missed something.
> > > > >
> > > > > I don't like asking people to go out of their way for me, but
> > *please*
> > > > > can we try to remember signalling? It makes everyone's transactions
> > > *so*
> > > > > much more visible.
> > > > >
> > > > > This is also feedback for the new report style. I'm not fully
> > satisfied
> > > > > with the way it is now, so I absolutely *need* everyone's feedback
> on
> > > > > how everything looks. I'm ready to change lots.
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks!
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > >
> 
> > > > >  FORBES FOUR HUNDRED NINETY-THREE
> > > > >    or
> > >  
> > > > > TREASUROR'S WEEKLY REPORT
> > > > >
> > >
> 
> > > > >
> > > > > Date of last official report:  11 Jun 2020
> > > > > Date of this report:   whenever
> > > > >
> > > > > (all times and dates in UTC)
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > NOTES ON REPORT   (contains no
> > > data)
> > > > >
> > >
> 
> > > > >
> > > > > * As always, please check the accuracy of this report.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > ASSET INDEX   (does not
> > > self-ratify)
> > > > >
> > >
> 
> > > > >
> > > > > +-+--+---+
> > > > > | Asset class | Recordkeepor | Ownership |
> > > > > +=+==+===+
> > > > > | Coins   | Treasuror| Agora, players, contracts |
> > > > > | Cards   | Treasuror| Agora, players, contracts |
> > > > > | Products| Treasuror| Agora, players, contracts |
> > > > > | Blots   | Referee  | Persons   |
> > > > > +-+--+---+
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > ASSET BALANCES
> > >  (self-ratifies)
> > > > >
> > >
> 
> > > > >
> > > > > +--++++++++++
> > > > > |  Player  |Coin|VcC.|JsC.|LgC.|VtC.|VPt.|BBG.|Pdt.|XVt.|
> > > > > +==++++++++++
> > > > > |Aris  | 700|   0|   0|   1|   0|   0|   0|   0|   0|
> > > > > |ATMunn|  89|   1|   0|   1|   1|   0|   0|   0|   0|
> > > > > |Baron | 115|   1|   1|   1|   1|   0|   0|   0|   0|
> > > > > |Cuddlebeam|   0|   0|   0|   0|   0|   0|   0|   0|   0|
> > > > > |D. Margaux|1259|   1|   1|   1|   1|   0|   0|   0|   0|
> > > > > |Falsifian | 141|   0|   0|   0|   0|   0|   0|   0|   0|
> > > > > |G.| 928|   1|   1|   1|   1|   0|   0|   0|   0|
> > > > > |Gaelan|  58|   1|   1|   1|   1|   0|   0|   0|   0|
> > > > > |grok  |  35|   1|   1|   1|   1|   0|   0|   0|   0|
> > > > > |Jason | 682|   1|   1|   2|   0|   0|   0|   0|   0|
> > > > > |Murphy| 235|   1|   1|   1|   1|   0|   0|   0|   0|
> > > > > |omd   | 286|   1|   1|   1|   1|   

Re: DIS: Draft report feedback

2020-06-15 Thread Rebecca via agora-discussion
I already did intend to do that somewhere else

On Mon, Jun 15, 2020 at 7:36 PM Cuddle Beam via agora-discussion <
agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote:

> I'll give you 72 hours to intend without objection to transfer those cards
> (I don't know which they are) in the Lost and Found back to yourself (I
> won't object, because I do want you to have them back). Otherwise I'll
> consider them abandoned and I'll go for them myself (most likely with the
> Plunder Partnership and Parley-ing what should happen with them).
>
> On Mon, Jun 15, 2020 at 10:44 AM Rebecca via agora-discussion <
> agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote:
>
> > I actually have 0 cards of any type. I transferred 2 to Aris's lottery
> and
> > the other 2 to my now-destroyed contract, they reside in the Lost and
> Found
> > department now.
> >
> > On Mon, Jun 15, 2020 at 6:42 PM Cuddle Beam via agora-discussion <
> > agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote:
> >
> > > >can we try to remember signalling
> > >
> > > What is signalling? The "[Attn. Treasuror]" thing, yes?
> > >
> > > On Mon, Jun 15, 2020 at 10:30 AM Reuben Staley via agora-discussion <
> > > agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote:
> > >
> > > > It's me again! Just popping in to ask everyone's thoughts on this. I
> > > > usually do the Treasuror stuff around Wednesday but there's been a
> bit
> > > > of extra work this past week so I'm putting out a mid-week draft
> > report.
> > > > I think I did a pretty good job, but there were so many messages
> that I
> > > > probably missed something.
> > > >
> > > > I don't like asking people to go out of their way for me, but
> *please*
> > > > can we try to remember signalling? It makes everyone's transactions
> > *so*
> > > > much more visible.
> > > >
> > > > This is also feedback for the new report style. I'm not fully
> satisfied
> > > > with the way it is now, so I absolutely *need* everyone's feedback on
> > > > how everything looks. I'm ready to change lots.
> > > >
> > > > Thanks!
> > > >
> > > >
> > 
> > > >  FORBES FOUR HUNDRED NINETY-THREE
> > > >    or
> >  
> > > > TREASUROR'S WEEKLY REPORT
> > > >
> > 
> > > >
> > > > Date of last official report:  11 Jun 2020
> > > > Date of this report:   whenever
> > > >
> > > > (all times and dates in UTC)
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > NOTES ON REPORT   (contains no
> > data)
> > > >
> > 
> > > >
> > > > * As always, please check the accuracy of this report.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > ASSET INDEX   (does not
> > self-ratify)
> > > >
> > 
> > > >
> > > > +-+--+---+
> > > > | Asset class | Recordkeepor | Ownership |
> > > > +=+==+===+
> > > > | Coins   | Treasuror| Agora, players, contracts |
> > > > | Cards   | Treasuror| Agora, players, contracts |
> > > > | Products| Treasuror| Agora, players, contracts |
> > > > | Blots   | Referee  | Persons   |
> > > > +-+--+---+
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > ASSET BALANCES
> >  (self-ratifies)
> > > >
> > 
> > > >
> > > > +--++++++++++
> > > > |  Player  |Coin|VcC.|JsC.|LgC.|VtC.|VPt.|BBG.|Pdt.|XVt.|
> > > > +==++++++++++
> > > > |Aris  | 700|   0|   0|   1|   0|   0|   0|   0|   0|
> > > > |ATMunn|  89|   1|   0|   1|   1|   0|   0|   0|   0|
> > > > |Baron | 115|   1|   1|   1|   1|   0|   0|   0|   0|
> > > > |Cuddlebeam|   0|   0|   0|   0|   0|   0|   0|   0|   0|
> > > > |D. Margaux|1259|   1|   1|   1|   1|   0|   0|   0|   0|
> > > > |Falsifian | 141|   0|   0|   0|   0|   0|   0|   0|   0|
> > > > |G.| 928|   1|   1|   1|   1|   0|   0|   0|   0|
> > > > |Gaelan|  58|   1|   1|   1|   1|   0|   0|   0|   0|
> > > > |grok  |  35|   1|   1|   1|   1|   0|   0|   0|   0|
> > > > |Jason | 682|   1|   1|   2|   0|   0|   0|   0|   0|
> > > > |Murphy| 235|   1|   1|   1|   1|   0|   0|   0|   0|
> > > > |omd   | 286|   1|   1|   1|   1|   0|   0|   0|   0|
> > > > |nch   |  89|   1|   1|   2|   2|   0|   0|   0|   0|
> > > > |Publius   | 156|   1|   1|   1|   1|   0|   0|   0|   0|
> > > > |R. Lee| 128|   1|   1|   1|   1|   0|   0|   0|   0|
> > > > |sukil |  35|   1|   1|   1|   1|   0|   0|   0|   0|
> > > > |Trigon|  90|   1|   1|   1|   1|   0|   0|   0|   0|
> > > > 

Re: DIS: Draft report feedback

2020-06-15 Thread Publius Scribonius Scholasticus via agora-discussion
On 6/15/20 4:29 AM, Reuben Staley via agora-discussion wrote:
> It's me again! Just popping in to ask everyone's thoughts on this. I
> usually do the Treasuror stuff around Wednesday but there's been a bit
> of extra work this past week so I'm putting out a mid-week draft report.
> I think I did a pretty good job, but there were so many messages that I
> probably missed something.
> 
> I don't like asking people to go out of their way for me, but *please*
> can we try to remember signalling? It makes everyone's transactions *so*
> much more visible.
> 
> This is also feedback for the new report style. I'm not fully satisfied
> with the way it is now, so I absolutely *need* everyone's feedback on
> how everything looks. I'm ready to change lots.
> 
> Thanks!
> 
> 
>     FORBES FOUR HUNDRED NINETY-THREE
>    or   
>    TREASUROR'S WEEKLY REPORT
> 
> 
> Date of last official report:  11 Jun 2020
> Date of this report:   whenever
> 
> (all times and dates in UTC)
> 
> 
> NOTES ON REPORT   (contains no data)
> 
> 
> * As always, please check the accuracy of this report.
> 
> 
> ASSET INDEX   (does not self-ratify)
> 
> 
> +-+--+---+
> | Asset class | Recordkeepor | Ownership |
> +=+==+===+
> | Coins   | Treasuror    | Agora, players, contracts |
> | Cards   | Treasuror    | Agora, players, contracts |
> | Products    | Treasuror    | Agora, players, contracts |
> | Blots   | Referee  | Persons   |
> +-+--+---+
> 
> 
> ASSET BALANCES   (self-ratifies)
> 
> 
> +--++++++++++
> |  Player  |Coin|VcC.|JsC.|LgC.|VtC.|VPt.|BBG.|Pdt.|XVt.|
> +==++++++++++
> |Aris  | 700|   0|   0|   1|   0|   0|   0|   0|   0|
> |ATMunn    |  89|   1|   0|   1|   1|   0|   0|   0|   0|
> |Baron | 115|   1|   1|   1|   1|   0|   0|   0|   0|
> |Cuddlebeam|   0|   0|   0|   0|   0|   0|   0|   0|   0|
> |D. Margaux|1259|   1|   1|   1|   1|   0|   0|   0|   0|
> |Falsifian | 141|   0|   0|   0|   0|   0|   0|   0|   0|
> |G.    | 928|   1|   1|   1|   1|   0|   0|   0|   0|
> |Gaelan    |  58|   1|   1|   1|   1|   0|   0|   0|   0|
> |grok  |  35|   1|   1|   1|   1|   0|   0|   0|   0|
> |Jason | 682|   1|   1|   2|   0|   0|   0|   0|   0|
> |Murphy    | 235|   1|   1|   1|   1|   0|   0|   0|   0|
> |omd   | 286|   1|   1|   1|   1|   0|   0|   0|   0|
> |nch   |  89|   1|   1|   2|   2|   0|   0|   0|   0|
> |Publius   | 156|   1|   1|   1|   1|   0|   0|   0|   0|
> |R. Lee    | 128|   1|   1|   1|   1|   0|   0|   0|   0|
> |sukil |  35|   1|   1|   1|   1|   0|   0|   0|   0|
> |Trigon    |  90|   1|   1|   1|   1|   0|   0|   0|   0|
> +--++++++++++
> 
> +--++++++++++
> |  Entity  |Coin|VcC.|JsC.|LgC.|VtC.|VPt.|BBG.|Pdt.|XVt.|
> +==++++++++++
> |Agora |2300|   0|   0|   0|   0|   0|   0|   0|   0|
> |CB Locker | 116|   1|   1|   1|   1|   0|   0|   0|   0|
> |D. Corp.  | 495|   0|   0|   0|   0|   0|   0|   0|   0|
> |DracoLotto|   0|   3|   3|   1|   3|   0|   0|   0|   0|
> |L Dept. | 575|   0|   0|   0|   0|   0|   0|   0|   0|
> |NAX   |  15|   0|   0|   0|   0|   0|   0|   0|   0|
> +--++++++++++
> 
> All other Entities have 0 of all enumerated assets.
> 
> 
> RECENT HISTORY    (does not self-ratify)
> 
> 
> Abbreviations used:
> 
> +--+-+
> | Abbr | Office  |
> +==+=+
> | ADoP | Associate Director of Personnel |
> | Abtr | Arbitor |
> | Assr | Assessor    |
> | Cptr | Comptrollor |
> | Dstr | Distributor |
> | Hrld | Herald  |
> | Ntry | Notary  |
> | PM   | Prime Minister  |
> | Pmtr | Promotor    |
> | Rfee | Referee |
> | Rstr | Registrar   |
> | Rkpr | 

Re: DIS: Draft report feedback

2020-06-15 Thread Cuddle Beam via agora-discussion
I'll give you 72 hours to intend without objection to transfer those cards
(I don't know which they are) in the Lost and Found back to yourself (I
won't object, because I do want you to have them back). Otherwise I'll
consider them abandoned and I'll go for them myself (most likely with the
Plunder Partnership and Parley-ing what should happen with them).

On Mon, Jun 15, 2020 at 10:44 AM Rebecca via agora-discussion <
agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote:

> I actually have 0 cards of any type. I transferred 2 to Aris's lottery and
> the other 2 to my now-destroyed contract, they reside in the Lost and Found
> department now.
>
> On Mon, Jun 15, 2020 at 6:42 PM Cuddle Beam via agora-discussion <
> agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote:
>
> > >can we try to remember signalling
> >
> > What is signalling? The "[Attn. Treasuror]" thing, yes?
> >
> > On Mon, Jun 15, 2020 at 10:30 AM Reuben Staley via agora-discussion <
> > agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote:
> >
> > > It's me again! Just popping in to ask everyone's thoughts on this. I
> > > usually do the Treasuror stuff around Wednesday but there's been a bit
> > > of extra work this past week so I'm putting out a mid-week draft
> report.
> > > I think I did a pretty good job, but there were so many messages that I
> > > probably missed something.
> > >
> > > I don't like asking people to go out of their way for me, but *please*
> > > can we try to remember signalling? It makes everyone's transactions
> *so*
> > > much more visible.
> > >
> > > This is also feedback for the new report style. I'm not fully satisfied
> > > with the way it is now, so I absolutely *need* everyone's feedback on
> > > how everything looks. I'm ready to change lots.
> > >
> > > Thanks!
> > >
> > >
> 
> > >  FORBES FOUR HUNDRED NINETY-THREE
> > >    or
>  
> > > TREASUROR'S WEEKLY REPORT
> > >
> 
> > >
> > > Date of last official report:  11 Jun 2020
> > > Date of this report:   whenever
> > >
> > > (all times and dates in UTC)
> > >
> > >
> > > NOTES ON REPORT   (contains no
> data)
> > >
> 
> > >
> > > * As always, please check the accuracy of this report.
> > >
> > >
> > > ASSET INDEX   (does not
> self-ratify)
> > >
> 
> > >
> > > +-+--+---+
> > > | Asset class | Recordkeepor | Ownership |
> > > +=+==+===+
> > > | Coins   | Treasuror| Agora, players, contracts |
> > > | Cards   | Treasuror| Agora, players, contracts |
> > > | Products| Treasuror| Agora, players, contracts |
> > > | Blots   | Referee  | Persons   |
> > > +-+--+---+
> > >
> > >
> > > ASSET BALANCES
>  (self-ratifies)
> > >
> 
> > >
> > > +--++++++++++
> > > |  Player  |Coin|VcC.|JsC.|LgC.|VtC.|VPt.|BBG.|Pdt.|XVt.|
> > > +==++++++++++
> > > |Aris  | 700|   0|   0|   1|   0|   0|   0|   0|   0|
> > > |ATMunn|  89|   1|   0|   1|   1|   0|   0|   0|   0|
> > > |Baron | 115|   1|   1|   1|   1|   0|   0|   0|   0|
> > > |Cuddlebeam|   0|   0|   0|   0|   0|   0|   0|   0|   0|
> > > |D. Margaux|1259|   1|   1|   1|   1|   0|   0|   0|   0|
> > > |Falsifian | 141|   0|   0|   0|   0|   0|   0|   0|   0|
> > > |G.| 928|   1|   1|   1|   1|   0|   0|   0|   0|
> > > |Gaelan|  58|   1|   1|   1|   1|   0|   0|   0|   0|
> > > |grok  |  35|   1|   1|   1|   1|   0|   0|   0|   0|
> > > |Jason | 682|   1|   1|   2|   0|   0|   0|   0|   0|
> > > |Murphy| 235|   1|   1|   1|   1|   0|   0|   0|   0|
> > > |omd   | 286|   1|   1|   1|   1|   0|   0|   0|   0|
> > > |nch   |  89|   1|   1|   2|   2|   0|   0|   0|   0|
> > > |Publius   | 156|   1|   1|   1|   1|   0|   0|   0|   0|
> > > |R. Lee| 128|   1|   1|   1|   1|   0|   0|   0|   0|
> > > |sukil |  35|   1|   1|   1|   1|   0|   0|   0|   0|
> > > |Trigon|  90|   1|   1|   1|   1|   0|   0|   0|   0|
> > > +--++++++++++
> > >
> > > +--++++++++++
> > > |  Entity  |Coin|VcC.|JsC.|LgC.|VtC.|VPt.|BBG.|Pdt.|XVt.|
> > > +==++++++++++
> > > |Agora |2300|   0|   0|   0|   0|   0|   0|   0|   0|
> > > |CB Locker | 116|   1|   1|   1|   1|   0|   0|   0| 

Re: BUS: Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [ADoP ] Salaries - also [Treasuror CoE]

2020-06-15 Thread Rebecca via agora-discussion
Also the re-done report was published to A-B which is also probably why I
missed it, but I am sorry for making the first mistake

On Mon, Jun 15, 2020 at 6:49 PM Rebecca  wrote:

> Okay, you're right about the first one (side-eye @ falsifian) but the
> second one is surely just a response to a COE and republishing the first
> report, not a new monthly report right?
>
> On Mon, Jun 15, 2020 at 1:30 PM Edward Murphy via agora-business <
> agora-busin...@agoranomic.org> wrote:
>
>> R. Lee wrote:
>>
>> > On Mon, Jun 15, 2020 at 7:04 AM Edward Murphy via agora-discussion <
>> > agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote:
>> >
>> >> R. Lee wrote:
>> >>
>> >>> Salaries
>> >>>
>> >>> I award the following players the following amount of money for their
>> >>> officer reports and assessor resolutions (since Murphy last paid
>> salary).
>> >>> For more information, see the recent events section of my last weekly
>> >>> report. For anyone worried about some players having filed more weekly
>> >>> reports than others in this period, don’t worry, everyone below has
>> >> filed 1
>> >>> per Agoran week in that time, the pay will all be the same in the end.
>> >>>
>> >>> R. Lee: 15 coins (Notary weekly x2, ADoP weekly x1)
>> >>>
>> >>> Murphy: 5 coins (ADoP weekly x1)
>> >>> Aris: 10 coins (Promotor weekly x2)
>> >>>
>> >>> Falsifian: 20 coins (Registrar weekly x3, Registrar monthly x1)
>> >>>
>> >>> PSS: 20 coins (Tailor monthly x1, Referee weekly x1, Herald monthly
>> x1,
>> >>> Herald weekly x1)
>> >>>
>> >>> G.: 5 coins (Arbitor weekly x1)
>> >>>
>> >>> Jason: 10 coins (Assessor Assessments x1, SLR x1)
>> >>>
>> >>> Trigon: 10 coins (Treasuror weekly x2)
>> >>>
>> >>> Nch: 5 coins (Webmastor monthly x1)
>> >>
>> >> Having mostly caught up on my own records, my salary automation script
>> >> picked up the following. Differences (which might be recording errors
>> >> on my part or R. Lee's, I haven't hit up the archives to check):
>> >> * I recorded Falsifian as publishing Registrar weekly x2, not x3
>> >> * I recorded PSS as publishing Tailor monthly x2, not x1
>> >>
>> >> (weekly)
>> >>
>> >> Sun, May 24 2020 (18:00:24) - Murphy published the ADoP's weekly report
>> >> Mon, May 25 2020 (22:01:05) - Aris published the proposal pool
>> >> Tue, May 26 2020 (02:59:08) - R. Lee published the Notary's weekly
>> report
>> >> Sat, May 30 2020 (04:42:24) - Falsifian published the Registrar's
>> weekly
>> >> report
>> >> Sun, May 31 2020 (10:41:22) - PSS published the Referee's weekly report
>> >> Sun, May 31 2020 (10:46:23) - PSS published the Herald's weekly report
>> >> Sun, May 31 2020 (19:23:25) - G. published the Arbitor's weekly report
>> >> Sun, May 31 2020 (22:13:50) - Trigon published the Treasuror's weekly
>> >> report
>> >> Tue, Jun 02 2020 (19:23:30) - Falsifian published the Registrar's
>> weekly
>> >> report
>> >> Wed, Jun 03 2020 (01:48:29) - Aris published the proposal pool
>> >> Wed, Jun 03 2020 (03:05:57) - R. Lee published the Notary's weekly
>> report
>> >> Thu, Jun 04 2020 (23:48:17) - Jason published the Short Logical Ruleset
>> >> Fri, Jun 05 2020 (05:57:47) - Trigon published the Treasuror's weekly
>> >> report
>> >> Sun, Jun 07 2020 (10:07:36) - R. Lee published the ADoP's weekly report
>> >>
>> >> plus the Assessor's first proposal resolution per week since 2020-05-24
>> >> 18:00:24 (patched in manually, not tracked in database)
>> >>
>> >> (monthly)
>> >>
>> >> Sat, May 30 2020 (05:04:28) - Falsifian published the Registrar's
>> >> monthly report
>> >> Sun, May 31 2020 (10:40:06) - PSS published the Herald's monthly report
>> >> Sun, May 31 2020 (10:51:45) - PSS published the Tailor's monthly report
>> >> Mon, Jun 01 2020 (00:32:34) - PSS published the Tailor's monthly report
>> >> Wed, Jun 03 2020 (05:02:09) - nch published the Webmastor's monthly
>> report
>> >>
>> >>
>> > I checked the archives, I am 100% certain that for both differences mine
>> > were correct. For the registrar, Falsifian published the weekly report
>> on a
>> > sunday, a saturday, and then tuesday.
>>
>> Both of these turn out to be obscure boundary cases, so the confusion is
>> understandable. For Registrar, checking a-o, I found the following:
>>
>> 1) Mon 18 May, Falsifian published RWR
>> 2) Sun 24 May, I paid salaries which included #1
>> 3) Sun 24 May, Falsifian published RWR
>> 4) Sat 30 May, Falsifian published RWR
>> 5) Tue  2 Jun, Falsifian published RWR
>>
>> So e did do #3 #4 #5, however #3 shouldn't have counted toward salary
>> because e already got salary for #1 which was earlier in the same week.
>>
>> CoE on the latest Treasuror's report (published 11 Jun so not yet
>> ratified: Only two of the three entries
>> "Falsifian  +   5c.   07 Jun 2020 10:10   Reward (Registrar weekly)"
>> were effective.
>>
>> > For the Tailor PSS didn't publish
>> > reports on both May 31 and Jun 1, because lol
>>
>> lol indeed, but actually e did. May 31, 10:51:45 UTC:
>>
>> 

Re: BUS: Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [ADoP ] Salaries - also [Treasuror CoE]

2020-06-15 Thread Rebecca via agora-discussion
Okay, you're right about the first one (side-eye @ falsifian) but the
second one is surely just a response to a COE and republishing the first
report, not a new monthly report right?

On Mon, Jun 15, 2020 at 1:30 PM Edward Murphy via agora-business <
agora-busin...@agoranomic.org> wrote:

> R. Lee wrote:
>
> > On Mon, Jun 15, 2020 at 7:04 AM Edward Murphy via agora-discussion <
> > agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote:
> >
> >> R. Lee wrote:
> >>
> >>> Salaries
> >>>
> >>> I award the following players the following amount of money for their
> >>> officer reports and assessor resolutions (since Murphy last paid
> salary).
> >>> For more information, see the recent events section of my last weekly
> >>> report. For anyone worried about some players having filed more weekly
> >>> reports than others in this period, don’t worry, everyone below has
> >> filed 1
> >>> per Agoran week in that time, the pay will all be the same in the end.
> >>>
> >>> R. Lee: 15 coins (Notary weekly x2, ADoP weekly x1)
> >>>
> >>> Murphy: 5 coins (ADoP weekly x1)
> >>> Aris: 10 coins (Promotor weekly x2)
> >>>
> >>> Falsifian: 20 coins (Registrar weekly x3, Registrar monthly x1)
> >>>
> >>> PSS: 20 coins (Tailor monthly x1, Referee weekly x1, Herald monthly x1,
> >>> Herald weekly x1)
> >>>
> >>> G.: 5 coins (Arbitor weekly x1)
> >>>
> >>> Jason: 10 coins (Assessor Assessments x1, SLR x1)
> >>>
> >>> Trigon: 10 coins (Treasuror weekly x2)
> >>>
> >>> Nch: 5 coins (Webmastor monthly x1)
> >>
> >> Having mostly caught up on my own records, my salary automation script
> >> picked up the following. Differences (which might be recording errors
> >> on my part or R. Lee's, I haven't hit up the archives to check):
> >> * I recorded Falsifian as publishing Registrar weekly x2, not x3
> >> * I recorded PSS as publishing Tailor monthly x2, not x1
> >>
> >> (weekly)
> >>
> >> Sun, May 24 2020 (18:00:24) - Murphy published the ADoP's weekly report
> >> Mon, May 25 2020 (22:01:05) - Aris published the proposal pool
> >> Tue, May 26 2020 (02:59:08) - R. Lee published the Notary's weekly
> report
> >> Sat, May 30 2020 (04:42:24) - Falsifian published the Registrar's weekly
> >> report
> >> Sun, May 31 2020 (10:41:22) - PSS published the Referee's weekly report
> >> Sun, May 31 2020 (10:46:23) - PSS published the Herald's weekly report
> >> Sun, May 31 2020 (19:23:25) - G. published the Arbitor's weekly report
> >> Sun, May 31 2020 (22:13:50) - Trigon published the Treasuror's weekly
> >> report
> >> Tue, Jun 02 2020 (19:23:30) - Falsifian published the Registrar's weekly
> >> report
> >> Wed, Jun 03 2020 (01:48:29) - Aris published the proposal pool
> >> Wed, Jun 03 2020 (03:05:57) - R. Lee published the Notary's weekly
> report
> >> Thu, Jun 04 2020 (23:48:17) - Jason published the Short Logical Ruleset
> >> Fri, Jun 05 2020 (05:57:47) - Trigon published the Treasuror's weekly
> >> report
> >> Sun, Jun 07 2020 (10:07:36) - R. Lee published the ADoP's weekly report
> >>
> >> plus the Assessor's first proposal resolution per week since 2020-05-24
> >> 18:00:24 (patched in manually, not tracked in database)
> >>
> >> (monthly)
> >>
> >> Sat, May 30 2020 (05:04:28) - Falsifian published the Registrar's
> >> monthly report
> >> Sun, May 31 2020 (10:40:06) - PSS published the Herald's monthly report
> >> Sun, May 31 2020 (10:51:45) - PSS published the Tailor's monthly report
> >> Mon, Jun 01 2020 (00:32:34) - PSS published the Tailor's monthly report
> >> Wed, Jun 03 2020 (05:02:09) - nch published the Webmastor's monthly
> report
> >>
> >>
> > I checked the archives, I am 100% certain that for both differences mine
> > were correct. For the registrar, Falsifian published the weekly report
> on a
> > sunday, a saturday, and then tuesday.
>
> Both of these turn out to be obscure boundary cases, so the confusion is
> understandable. For Registrar, checking a-o, I found the following:
>
> 1) Mon 18 May, Falsifian published RWR
> 2) Sun 24 May, I paid salaries which included #1
> 3) Sun 24 May, Falsifian published RWR
> 4) Sat 30 May, Falsifian published RWR
> 5) Tue  2 Jun, Falsifian published RWR
>
> So e did do #3 #4 #5, however #3 shouldn't have counted toward salary
> because e already got salary for #1 which was earlier in the same week.
>
> CoE on the latest Treasuror's report (published 11 Jun so not yet
> ratified: Only two of the three entries
> "Falsifian  +   5c.   07 Jun 2020 10:10   Reward (Registrar weekly)"
> were effective.
>
> > For the Tailor PSS didn't publish
> > reports on both May 31 and Jun 1, because lol
>
> lol indeed, but actually e did. May 31, 10:51:45 UTC:
>
> https://mailman.agoranomic.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/agora-official/2020-May/013707.html
> then a correction to it to a-b, Jun 1 00:32:34 UTC:
>
> https://mailman.agoranomic.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/agora-business/2020-June/042975.html
> so by the letter of the rules, the latter fulfilled eir duty to
> publish the report in June, and e is due a 

Re: DIS: Draft report feedback

2020-06-15 Thread Rebecca via agora-discussion
I also transferred 50 coins to that contract as well, they are now in the
department. a,ll these events are actually listed in teh "recent events"
section but not in the self-ratifying body

On Mon, Jun 15, 2020 at 6:44 PM Reuben Staley via agora-discussion <
agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote:

> On 2020-06-15 02:41, Cuddle Beam via agora-discussion wrote:
> > What is signalling? The "[Attn. Treasuror]" thing, yes?
>
> That is correct.
>
> --
> Trigon
>
> Speaker and Treasuror of Agora; Former Rulekeepor (12 months) and
> Cartographor (8 months) of Agora; Champion of Agora by High Score and
> Proposal; Bearer of the Badge of the Salted Earth; Founder of the League
> of Agorans Facilitating Effective Recordkeeping; Arcadian Revivalist;
> Sixth-Longest Continually Registered Player of Agora; Player and former
> Emperor of BlogNomic; Player, Book-keeper, and Originator of the
> Metaruleset of Infinite Nomic; Contributor to the nomic.club wiki and
> the Talk:Nomic page on Wikipedia.
>


-- 
>From R. Lee


Re: DIS: Draft report feedback

2020-06-15 Thread Rebecca via agora-discussion
I actually have 0 cards of any type. I transferred 2 to Aris's lottery and
the other 2 to my now-destroyed contract, they reside in the Lost and Found
department now.

On Mon, Jun 15, 2020 at 6:42 PM Cuddle Beam via agora-discussion <
agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote:

> >can we try to remember signalling
>
> What is signalling? The "[Attn. Treasuror]" thing, yes?
>
> On Mon, Jun 15, 2020 at 10:30 AM Reuben Staley via agora-discussion <
> agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote:
>
> > It's me again! Just popping in to ask everyone's thoughts on this. I
> > usually do the Treasuror stuff around Wednesday but there's been a bit
> > of extra work this past week so I'm putting out a mid-week draft report.
> > I think I did a pretty good job, but there were so many messages that I
> > probably missed something.
> >
> > I don't like asking people to go out of their way for me, but *please*
> > can we try to remember signalling? It makes everyone's transactions *so*
> > much more visible.
> >
> > This is also feedback for the new report style. I'm not fully satisfied
> > with the way it is now, so I absolutely *need* everyone's feedback on
> > how everything looks. I'm ready to change lots.
> >
> > Thanks!
> >
> > 
> >  FORBES FOUR HUNDRED NINETY-THREE
> >    or   
> > TREASUROR'S WEEKLY REPORT
> > 
> >
> > Date of last official report:  11 Jun 2020
> > Date of this report:   whenever
> >
> > (all times and dates in UTC)
> >
> >
> > NOTES ON REPORT   (contains no data)
> > 
> >
> > * As always, please check the accuracy of this report.
> >
> >
> > ASSET INDEX   (does not self-ratify)
> > 
> >
> > +-+--+---+
> > | Asset class | Recordkeepor | Ownership |
> > +=+==+===+
> > | Coins   | Treasuror| Agora, players, contracts |
> > | Cards   | Treasuror| Agora, players, contracts |
> > | Products| Treasuror| Agora, players, contracts |
> > | Blots   | Referee  | Persons   |
> > +-+--+---+
> >
> >
> > ASSET BALANCES   (self-ratifies)
> > 
> >
> > +--++++++++++
> > |  Player  |Coin|VcC.|JsC.|LgC.|VtC.|VPt.|BBG.|Pdt.|XVt.|
> > +==++++++++++
> > |Aris  | 700|   0|   0|   1|   0|   0|   0|   0|   0|
> > |ATMunn|  89|   1|   0|   1|   1|   0|   0|   0|   0|
> > |Baron | 115|   1|   1|   1|   1|   0|   0|   0|   0|
> > |Cuddlebeam|   0|   0|   0|   0|   0|   0|   0|   0|   0|
> > |D. Margaux|1259|   1|   1|   1|   1|   0|   0|   0|   0|
> > |Falsifian | 141|   0|   0|   0|   0|   0|   0|   0|   0|
> > |G.| 928|   1|   1|   1|   1|   0|   0|   0|   0|
> > |Gaelan|  58|   1|   1|   1|   1|   0|   0|   0|   0|
> > |grok  |  35|   1|   1|   1|   1|   0|   0|   0|   0|
> > |Jason | 682|   1|   1|   2|   0|   0|   0|   0|   0|
> > |Murphy| 235|   1|   1|   1|   1|   0|   0|   0|   0|
> > |omd   | 286|   1|   1|   1|   1|   0|   0|   0|   0|
> > |nch   |  89|   1|   1|   2|   2|   0|   0|   0|   0|
> > |Publius   | 156|   1|   1|   1|   1|   0|   0|   0|   0|
> > |R. Lee| 128|   1|   1|   1|   1|   0|   0|   0|   0|
> > |sukil |  35|   1|   1|   1|   1|   0|   0|   0|   0|
> > |Trigon|  90|   1|   1|   1|   1|   0|   0|   0|   0|
> > +--++++++++++
> >
> > +--++++++++++
> > |  Entity  |Coin|VcC.|JsC.|LgC.|VtC.|VPt.|BBG.|Pdt.|XVt.|
> > +==++++++++++
> > |Agora |2300|   0|   0|   0|   0|   0|   0|   0|   0|
> > |CB Locker | 116|   1|   1|   1|   1|   0|   0|   0|   0|
> > |D. Corp.  | 495|   0|   0|   0|   0|   0|   0|   0|   0|
> > |DracoLotto|   0|   3|   3|   1|   3|   0|   0|   0|   0|
> > |L Dept. | 575|   0|   0|   0|   0|   0|   0|   0|   0|
> > |NAX   |  15|   0|   0|   0|   0|   0|   0|   0|   0|
> > +--++++++++++
> >
> > All other Entities have 0 of all enumerated assets.
> >
> >
> > RECENT HISTORY(does not self-ratify)
> > 
> >
> > Abbreviations used:
> >
> > +--+-+
> > | 

Re: DIS: Draft report feedback

2020-06-15 Thread Reuben Staley via agora-discussion

On 2020-06-15 02:41, Cuddle Beam via agora-discussion wrote:

What is signalling? The "[Attn. Treasuror]" thing, yes?


That is correct.

--
Trigon

Speaker and Treasuror of Agora; Former Rulekeepor (12 months) and 
Cartographor (8 months) of Agora; Champion of Agora by High Score and 
Proposal; Bearer of the Badge of the Salted Earth; Founder of the League 
of Agorans Facilitating Effective Recordkeeping; Arcadian Revivalist; 
Sixth-Longest Continually Registered Player of Agora; Player and former 
Emperor of BlogNomic; Player, Book-keeper, and Originator of the 
Metaruleset of Infinite Nomic; Contributor to the nomic.club wiki and 
the Talk:Nomic page on Wikipedia.


Re: DIS: Draft report feedback

2020-06-15 Thread Cuddle Beam via agora-discussion
>can we try to remember signalling

What is signalling? The "[Attn. Treasuror]" thing, yes?

On Mon, Jun 15, 2020 at 10:30 AM Reuben Staley via agora-discussion <
agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote:

> It's me again! Just popping in to ask everyone's thoughts on this. I
> usually do the Treasuror stuff around Wednesday but there's been a bit
> of extra work this past week so I'm putting out a mid-week draft report.
> I think I did a pretty good job, but there were so many messages that I
> probably missed something.
>
> I don't like asking people to go out of their way for me, but *please*
> can we try to remember signalling? It makes everyone's transactions *so*
> much more visible.
>
> This is also feedback for the new report style. I'm not fully satisfied
> with the way it is now, so I absolutely *need* everyone's feedback on
> how everything looks. I'm ready to change lots.
>
> Thanks!
>
> 
>  FORBES FOUR HUNDRED NINETY-THREE
>    or   
> TREASUROR'S WEEKLY REPORT
> 
>
> Date of last official report:  11 Jun 2020
> Date of this report:   whenever
>
> (all times and dates in UTC)
>
>
> NOTES ON REPORT   (contains no data)
> 
>
> * As always, please check the accuracy of this report.
>
>
> ASSET INDEX   (does not self-ratify)
> 
>
> +-+--+---+
> | Asset class | Recordkeepor | Ownership |
> +=+==+===+
> | Coins   | Treasuror| Agora, players, contracts |
> | Cards   | Treasuror| Agora, players, contracts |
> | Products| Treasuror| Agora, players, contracts |
> | Blots   | Referee  | Persons   |
> +-+--+---+
>
>
> ASSET BALANCES   (self-ratifies)
> 
>
> +--++++++++++
> |  Player  |Coin|VcC.|JsC.|LgC.|VtC.|VPt.|BBG.|Pdt.|XVt.|
> +==++++++++++
> |Aris  | 700|   0|   0|   1|   0|   0|   0|   0|   0|
> |ATMunn|  89|   1|   0|   1|   1|   0|   0|   0|   0|
> |Baron | 115|   1|   1|   1|   1|   0|   0|   0|   0|
> |Cuddlebeam|   0|   0|   0|   0|   0|   0|   0|   0|   0|
> |D. Margaux|1259|   1|   1|   1|   1|   0|   0|   0|   0|
> |Falsifian | 141|   0|   0|   0|   0|   0|   0|   0|   0|
> |G.| 928|   1|   1|   1|   1|   0|   0|   0|   0|
> |Gaelan|  58|   1|   1|   1|   1|   0|   0|   0|   0|
> |grok  |  35|   1|   1|   1|   1|   0|   0|   0|   0|
> |Jason | 682|   1|   1|   2|   0|   0|   0|   0|   0|
> |Murphy| 235|   1|   1|   1|   1|   0|   0|   0|   0|
> |omd   | 286|   1|   1|   1|   1|   0|   0|   0|   0|
> |nch   |  89|   1|   1|   2|   2|   0|   0|   0|   0|
> |Publius   | 156|   1|   1|   1|   1|   0|   0|   0|   0|
> |R. Lee| 128|   1|   1|   1|   1|   0|   0|   0|   0|
> |sukil |  35|   1|   1|   1|   1|   0|   0|   0|   0|
> |Trigon|  90|   1|   1|   1|   1|   0|   0|   0|   0|
> +--++++++++++
>
> +--++++++++++
> |  Entity  |Coin|VcC.|JsC.|LgC.|VtC.|VPt.|BBG.|Pdt.|XVt.|
> +==++++++++++
> |Agora |2300|   0|   0|   0|   0|   0|   0|   0|   0|
> |CB Locker | 116|   1|   1|   1|   1|   0|   0|   0|   0|
> |D. Corp.  | 495|   0|   0|   0|   0|   0|   0|   0|   0|
> |DracoLotto|   0|   3|   3|   1|   3|   0|   0|   0|   0|
> |L Dept. | 575|   0|   0|   0|   0|   0|   0|   0|   0|
> |NAX   |  15|   0|   0|   0|   0|   0|   0|   0|   0|
> +--++++++++++
>
> All other Entities have 0 of all enumerated assets.
>
>
> RECENT HISTORY(does not self-ratify)
> 
>
> Abbreviations used:
>
> +--+-+
> | Abbr | Office  |
> +==+=+
> | ADoP | Associate Director of Personnel |
> | Abtr | Arbitor |
> | Assr | Assessor|
> | Cptr | Comptrollor |
> | Dstr | Distributor |
> | Hrld | Herald  |
> | Ntry | Notary  |
> | PM   | Prime Minister  |
> | Pmtr | Promotor

DIS: Draft report feedback

2020-06-15 Thread Reuben Staley via agora-discussion
It's me again! Just popping in to ask everyone's thoughts on this. I 
usually do the Treasuror stuff around Wednesday but there's been a bit 
of extra work this past week so I'm putting out a mid-week draft report. 
I think I did a pretty good job, but there were so many messages that I 
probably missed something.


I don't like asking people to go out of their way for me, but *please* 
can we try to remember signalling? It makes everyone's transactions *so* 
much more visible.


This is also feedback for the new report style. I'm not fully satisfied 
with the way it is now, so I absolutely *need* everyone's feedback on 
how everything looks. I'm ready to change lots.


Thanks!


FORBES FOUR HUNDRED NINETY-THREE
   or   
   TREASUROR'S WEEKLY REPORT


Date of last official report:  11 Jun 2020
Date of this report:   whenever

(all times and dates in UTC)


NOTES ON REPORT   (contains no data)


* As always, please check the accuracy of this report.


ASSET INDEX   (does not self-ratify)


+-+--+---+
| Asset class | Recordkeepor | Ownership |
+=+==+===+
| Coins   | Treasuror| Agora, players, contracts |
| Cards   | Treasuror| Agora, players, contracts |
| Products| Treasuror| Agora, players, contracts |
| Blots   | Referee  | Persons   |
+-+--+---+


ASSET BALANCES   (self-ratifies)


+--++++++++++
|  Player  |Coin|VcC.|JsC.|LgC.|VtC.|VPt.|BBG.|Pdt.|XVt.|
+==++++++++++
|Aris  | 700|   0|   0|   1|   0|   0|   0|   0|   0|
|ATMunn|  89|   1|   0|   1|   1|   0|   0|   0|   0|
|Baron | 115|   1|   1|   1|   1|   0|   0|   0|   0|
|Cuddlebeam|   0|   0|   0|   0|   0|   0|   0|   0|   0|
|D. Margaux|1259|   1|   1|   1|   1|   0|   0|   0|   0|
|Falsifian | 141|   0|   0|   0|   0|   0|   0|   0|   0|
|G.| 928|   1|   1|   1|   1|   0|   0|   0|   0|
|Gaelan|  58|   1|   1|   1|   1|   0|   0|   0|   0|
|grok  |  35|   1|   1|   1|   1|   0|   0|   0|   0|
|Jason | 682|   1|   1|   2|   0|   0|   0|   0|   0|
|Murphy| 235|   1|   1|   1|   1|   0|   0|   0|   0|
|omd   | 286|   1|   1|   1|   1|   0|   0|   0|   0|
|nch   |  89|   1|   1|   2|   2|   0|   0|   0|   0|
|Publius   | 156|   1|   1|   1|   1|   0|   0|   0|   0|
|R. Lee| 128|   1|   1|   1|   1|   0|   0|   0|   0|
|sukil |  35|   1|   1|   1|   1|   0|   0|   0|   0|
|Trigon|  90|   1|   1|   1|   1|   0|   0|   0|   0|
+--++++++++++

+--++++++++++
|  Entity  |Coin|VcC.|JsC.|LgC.|VtC.|VPt.|BBG.|Pdt.|XVt.|
+==++++++++++
|Agora |2300|   0|   0|   0|   0|   0|   0|   0|   0|
|CB Locker | 116|   1|   1|   1|   1|   0|   0|   0|   0|
|D. Corp.  | 495|   0|   0|   0|   0|   0|   0|   0|   0|
|DracoLotto|   0|   3|   3|   1|   3|   0|   0|   0|   0|
|L Dept. | 575|   0|   0|   0|   0|   0|   0|   0|   0|
|NAX   |  15|   0|   0|   0|   0|   0|   0|   0|   0|
+--++++++++++

All other Entities have 0 of all enumerated assets.


RECENT HISTORY(does not self-ratify)


Abbreviations used:

+--+-+
| Abbr | Office  |
+==+=+
| ADoP | Associate Director of Personnel |
| Abtr | Arbitor |
| Assr | Assessor|
| Cptr | Comptrollor |
| Dstr | Distributor |
| Hrld | Herald  |
| Ntry | Notary  |
| PM   | Prime Minister  |
| Pmtr | Promotor|
| Rfee | Referee |
| Rstr | Registrar   |
| Rkpr | Rulekeepor  |
| Spkr | Speaker |
| Tlor | Tailor  |
| Tsor | Treasuror   |
+--+-+

+--+--+
| Abbr | Asset|

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: DracoLotto

2020-06-15 Thread Reuben Staley via agora-discussion

On 2020-06-15 01:46, Rebecca via agora-discussion wrote:

the voting card failed, not necessarily the victory card


Yes, that is what I meant.

--
Trigon
Speaker and Treasuror of Agora; Former Rulekeepor (12 months) and 
Cartographor (8 months) of Agora; Champion of Agora by High Score and 
Proposal; Bearer of the Badge of the Salted Earth; Founder of the League 
of Agorans Facilitating Effective Recordkeeping; Arcadian Revivalist; 
Sixth-Longest Continually Registered Player of Agora; Player and former 
Emperor of BlogNomic; Player, Book-keeper, and Originator of the 
Metaruleset of Infinite Nomic; Contributor to the nomic.club wiki and 
the Talk:Nomic page on Wikipedia.


Re: DIS: Re: BUS: DracoLotto

2020-06-15 Thread Rebecca via agora-discussion
the voting card failed, not necessarily the victory card

On Mon, Jun 15, 2020 at 5:45 PM Reuben Staley via agora-discussion <
agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote:

> On 2020-06-13 15:23, Jason Cobb via agora-business wrote:
> > On 6/13/20 5:21 PM, Aris Merchant via agora-business wrote:
> >> On Sat, Jun 13, 2020 at 1:36 PM James Cook via agora-business <
> >> agora-busin...@agoranomic.org> wrote:
> >>
>  I amend this contract to read as follows (just a few bug fixes):
> 
>  DracoLotto
> >>> I join DracoLotto and transfer to it one card of each of the four
> types.
> >>>
> >>> - Falsifian
> >>
> >> I transfer the DracoLotto one justice card, one voting card, and one
> >> victory card.
> >>
> >> -Aris
> >>
> >>>
> >
> > I become party to DracoLotto and transfer it one voting card and one
> > victory card.
> >
>
> This failed since you already transferred your voting card to the NAX.
>
> --
> Trigon
> Speaker and Treasuror of Agora; Former Rulekeepor (12 months) and
> Cartographor (8 months) of Agora; Champion of Agora by High Score and
> Proposal; Bearer of the Badge of the Salted Earth; Founder of the League
> of Agorans Facilitating Effective Recordkeeping; Arcadian Revivalist;
> Sixth-Longest Continually Registered Player of Agora; Player and former
> Emperor of BlogNomic; Player, Book-keeper, and Originator of the
> Metaruleset of Infinite Nomic; Contributor to the nomic.club wiki and
> the Talk:Nomic page on Wikipedia.
>


-- 
>From R. Lee


DIS: Re: BUS: DracoLotto

2020-06-15 Thread Reuben Staley via agora-discussion

On 2020-06-13 15:23, Jason Cobb via agora-business wrote:

On 6/13/20 5:21 PM, Aris Merchant via agora-business wrote:

On Sat, Jun 13, 2020 at 1:36 PM James Cook via agora-business <
agora-busin...@agoranomic.org> wrote:


I amend this contract to read as follows (just a few bug fixes):

DracoLotto

I join DracoLotto and transfer to it one card of each of the four types.

- Falsifian


I transfer the DracoLotto one justice card, one voting card, and one
victory card.

-Aris





I become party to DracoLotto and transfer it one voting card and one
victory card.



This failed since you already transferred your voting card to the NAX.

--
Trigon
Speaker and Treasuror of Agora; Former Rulekeepor (12 months) and 
Cartographor (8 months) of Agora; Champion of Agora by High Score and 
Proposal; Bearer of the Badge of the Salted Earth; Founder of the League 
of Agorans Facilitating Effective Recordkeeping; Arcadian Revivalist; 
Sixth-Longest Continually Registered Player of Agora; Player and former 
Emperor of BlogNomic; Player, Book-keeper, and Originator of the 
Metaruleset of Infinite Nomic; Contributor to the nomic.club wiki and 
the Talk:Nomic page on Wikipedia.