Re: DIS: Proto-contract: The Agoran Fast Food Society

2008-10-20 Thread Alex Smith
On Sun, 2008-10-19 at 12:39 -0600, Ian Kelly wrote: On Sun, Oct 19, 2008 at 11:12 AM, warrigal [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A Potato is any string whose SHA-523 hash I don't think I've heard of that one... -root Neither have I, but I'm going to have to invent it now, given my name. Another

DIS: Re: BUS: Email problems

2008-10-20 Thread Alex Smith
On Mon, 2008-10-20 at 09:17 +0100, Alex Smith wrote: bham.ac.uk is having email problems at the moment; I can send emails, but haven't been able to receive any since about 13:00UTC on Friday. I've been reading Agora email since by looking at TNP2's inbox (thanks, TNP2

DIS: Proto: Spelling abuse capitalisation VLOP

2008-10-20 Thread Alex Smith
Ah, a Bayes title so good I had to make a proto around it. Maybe it wouldn't be a good idea to do this immediately, but let us explore the corner cases of Caste first; on the other hand, if people don't like Caste, this might be something interesting to replace it with. (It also reminds me a lot

Re: DIS: PBA question

2008-10-20 Thread Alex Smith
On Mon, 2008-10-20 at 00:09 +0100, Elliott Hird wrote: On 19 Oct 2008, at 23:52, Ian Kelly wrote: The number in circulation should be equal to the number required to withdraw everything. If there are extra coins in circulation, the excess are worthless. If there are insufficient coins in

DIS: Re: BUS: The UNDAD

2008-10-20 Thread Alex Smith
On Tue, 2008-10-14 at 20:06 -0400, ihope wrote: On Tue, Oct 14, 2008 at 5:01 PM, comex [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I create the following contract: { 1. This is a public contract called the UNDAD. 2. Anyone can join this contract by announcement. Joining this contract is known as

DIS: Re: BUS: Bank run, hopefully working this time

2008-10-20 Thread Alex Smith
On Mon, 2008-10-20 at 18:53 +0100, Alex Smith wrote: [Actions in this message are meant to take place in order. If an action fails, I intend to continue with the others regardless. Also, I intend PBA actions to happen even if I have the number of Coins wrong.] I withdraw two 0 crops from

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Bank run, hopefully working this time

2008-10-20 Thread Alex Smith
On Mon, 2008-10-20 at 12:32 -0600, Ian Kelly wrote: Can somebody post the current PBA rates and holdings? I'm trying to work them out right now. I think there are as many as 6 different possibilities for what happened, due to typos in my scam... -- ais523

DIS: Re: BUS: Converging the gamestates

2008-10-20 Thread Alex Smith
On Mon, 2008-10-20 at 13:39 -0600, Ian Kelly wrote: On Mon, Oct 20, 2008 at 1:33 PM, Alex Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If the PBA has exactly six X crops, I withdraw two X crops from the PBA. I deposit all my Coins in the RBoA, for an appropriate number of Chits. By my calculations

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Note exchange and PBA stuff

2008-10-20 Thread Alex Smith
On Mon, 2008-10-20 at 16:21 -0500, Pavitra wrote: On Monday 20 October 2008 12:02:55 pm Alex Smith wrote: I join the Note Exchange. I fill the open Buy Ticket to create Note Markers. (How many do I have to create?). If you're referring to my Crescendo ticket, then it's six different

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Informs

2008-10-20 Thread Alex Smith
On Mon, 2008-10-20 at 15:14 -0700, Kerim Aydin wrote: On Mon, 20 Oct 2008, Alex Smith wrote: On Wed, 2008-10-15 at 22:02 -0700, Ed Murphy wrote: I inform the parties to the following contracts of the following equity cases, and invite them to submit arguments regarding the equitability

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Bank run, hopefully working this time

2008-10-21 Thread Alex Smith
On Mon, 2008-10-20 at 21:35 -0700, Ed Murphy wrote: ais523 wrote: [Actions in this message are meant to take place in order. If an action fails, I intend to continue with the others regardless. Also, I intend PBA actions to happen even if I have the number of Coins wrong.] I withdraw

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Bank run, hopefully working this time

2008-10-21 Thread Alex Smith
On Tue, 2008-10-21 at 18:25 +0100, Elliott Hird wrote: On 21 Oct 2008, at 18:23, Roger Hicks wrote: I know the I deposit the resulting 65 Chits for 650 Coins fails as ais523 got the currencies backward. He specified that incorrect PBA rates should still work. So e deposited 65 chits

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Nomination

2008-10-21 Thread Alex Smith
On Tue, 2008-10-21 at 14:01 -0400, Geoffrey Spear wrote: On Tue, Oct 21, 2008 at 1:18 PM, Benjamin Schultz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What the hey, I also nominate B Nomic for Conductor. Fails. At least, I *hope* I didn't miss B Nomic becoming a player. Nope, it hasn't registered yet.

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: douple dipping?

2008-10-21 Thread Alex Smith
On Tue, 2008-10-21 at 11:30 -0700, Taral wrote: On Tue, Oct 21, 2008 at 9:38 AM, Geoffrey Spear [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I intend, with 2 support, to initiate a criminal CFJ alleging that ais523 violated Rule 2143 by failing to publish a Mad Scientist's report for the week of 6 Oct. 2008.

DIS: Re: BUS: Rejudgement, CFJ 2196

2008-10-21 Thread Alex Smith
On Tue, 2008-10-21 at 12:06 -0700, Kerim Aydin wrote: On Tue, 21 Oct 2008, Alex Smith wrote: The appeals board have requested me to determine what the referent of One True Agora is. A Google search determines that the phrase does not occur anywhere anywhere, except in Rule 2200

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Nomination

2008-10-21 Thread Alex Smith
On Tue, 2008-10-21 at 16:01 -0400, comex wrote: (The reason I'm responding to one of these mass nominations seriously is that the idea of having Bayes as the recordkeepor for something intrigues me. It'd be a novelty having such a fast recordkeepor, and would certainly make scams like the

Re: DIS: Dear BobTHJ

2008-10-21 Thread Alex Smith
On Tue, 2008-10-21 at 22:15 +0100, Elliott Hird wrote: http://agora.eso-std.org/pba-report is an unofficial report which contains a note of the coins that ais523 deposited into the RBoA. I now request an RBoA report which I can base calculations for the following actions for. Then

Re: DIS: Dear BobTHJ

2008-10-21 Thread Alex Smith
On Tue, 2008-10-21 at 22:44 +0100, Elliott Hird wrote: On 21 Oct 2008, at 22:40, Alex Smith wrote: The relevant part seems to be that I deposited a total of 551 Coins into the RBoA, during the scam and shortly afterward. That should let BobTHJ be able to calculate how many Chits I

Re: DIS: Dear BobTHJ

2008-10-21 Thread Alex Smith
On Tue, 2008-10-21 at 15:46 -0600, Roger Hicks wrote: On Tue, Oct 21, 2008 at 15:15, Elliott Hird [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://agora.eso-std.org/pba-report is an unofficial report which contains a note of the coins that ais523 deposited into the RBoA. I now request an RBoA report

Re: DIS: Dear BobTHJ

2008-10-21 Thread Alex Smith
On Tue, 2008-10-21 at 22:53 +0100, Elliott Hird wrote: On 21 Oct 2008, at 22:46, Roger Hicks wrote: 2008-10-20 19:33 - ais523 withdraws two X crops for ^37 conditional on the deposit succeeding. (it didn't - ed, 2008-10-21) ais523 transfers all eir coins to the RBoA (^551 - ed,

DIS: Re: BUS: A case of problematic precedence

2008-10-21 Thread Alex Smith
On Thu, 2008-10-16 at 19:56 -0400, comex wrote: I join Nomic Wars I. I add the following section to Nomic Wars I: { Sections with lower Ratings take precedence over sections with higher Ratings; Sections of this contract whose Rating is a positive integer are void and do not apply. } This

DIS: Re: BUS: Contract: Nomic Wars

2008-10-21 Thread Alex Smith
On Thu, 2008-10-16 at 17:54 -0700, Kerim Aydin wrote: I agree to the Nomic Wars contract, and object to its joining the PRS. -Goethe The joining fails, as it had no parties at that point and cannot survive with one party. Did you mean to join Nomic Wars II? -- ais523

DIS: Re: BUS: Application for citizenship

2008-10-21 Thread Alex Smith
On Fri, 2008-10-17 at 02:43 -0500, Gavin Dow wrote: I hereby announce that I wish to register for citizenship in Agora. Welcome! Which name do you wish to be known by on reports? -- ais523

DIS: Re: BUS: Good morning, Dave

2008-10-21 Thread Alex Smith
On Sat, 2008-10-18 at 14:25 -0700, Kerim Aydin wrote: I agree to the following pledge, called HAL: 1. By pledge of Goethe, HAL is a biological organism that can communicate in English. Goethe may act on behalf of HAL by announcement. Goethe may terminate HAL by announcement.

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Rejudgement, CFJ 2196

2008-10-22 Thread Alex Smith
On Tue, 2008-10-21 at 16:17 -0700, Kerim Aydin wrote: On Tue, 21 Oct 2008, Ian Kelly wrote: On Tue, Oct 21, 2008 at 2:29 PM, Alex Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I submit the following evidence on CFJ 2196: There now exists a nomic called One True Agora, which can also be called Agora

DIS: Re: BUS: Registration

2008-10-22 Thread Alex Smith
On Tue, 2008-10-21 at 21:38 -0400, Jamie Dallaire wrote: Hello, I wish to register. Billy Pilgrim Welcome! Some notes for new players: Don't say you wish to do something, just do it. (As an experienced B player, though, you probably know this.) For some reason, people get registration

DIS: Re: BUS: Finishing off the bank run

2008-10-22 Thread Alex Smith
On Wed, 2008-10-22 at 09:46 -0600, Roger Hicks wrote: On Wed, Oct 22, 2008 at 09:38, Alex Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I deposit 2 VP in the RBoA. This gains me 140 Chits. I withdraw a 3 Crop from the RBoA for 72 Chits. I deposit a 3 Crop in the PBA for ^12. I deposit 12 Coins

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Intent to deputise

2008-10-22 Thread Alex Smith
On Wed, 2008-10-22 at 10:47 -0600, Ian Kelly wrote: On Wed, Oct 22, 2008 at 8:09 AM, Alex Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I intend to deputise for the CotC to: * Recuse the appeals panel on CFJ 2213a * Recuse the appeals panel on CFJ 2203a * Recuse the appeals panel on CFJ

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Bank Motion

2008-10-22 Thread Alex Smith
On Wed, 2008-10-22 at 12:11 -0600, Ian Kelly wrote: On Wed, Oct 22, 2008 at 11:57 AM, Taral [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, Oct 22, 2008 at 10:41 AM, Ian Kelly [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Er, I disapprove of this. It occurs to me that this would create even more incentive to deposit new

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Bank Motion

2008-10-22 Thread Alex Smith
On Wed, 2008-10-22 at 12:20 -0600, Ian Kelly wrote: On Wed, Oct 22, 2008 at 12:16 PM, Alex Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'd also like to point out that the current exaggerated rate is quite possibly correct. The PBA's designed to adjust exchange rates automatically, and I think it'll

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Bank Motion

2008-10-22 Thread Alex Smith
On Wed, 2008-10-22 at 12:28 -0600, Ian Kelly wrote: On Wed, Oct 22, 2008 at 12:22 PM, Alex Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, 2008-10-22 at 12:20 -0600, Ian Kelly wrote: On Wed, Oct 22, 2008 at 12:16 PM, Alex Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'd also like to point out that the current

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Bank Motion

2008-10-22 Thread Alex Smith
On Wed, 2008-10-22 at 12:44 -0600, Ian Kelly wrote: On Wed, Oct 22, 2008 at 12:32 PM, Alex Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If the RBoA's exchange rate is much less than 10 times the PBA's exchange rate, and it has none of that currency, people are very unlikely to deposit that currency

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJ 2229 assigned to OscarMeyr

2008-10-22 Thread Alex Smith
On Mon, 2008-10-20 at 20:43 -0400, Benjamin Schultz wrote: And that's the rub. Please provide evidence that UNDEAD is an active private contract. (If there is no evidence of this, then the criminal CFJ is unfounded, and an unfounded criminal accusation is treason, Citizen.) CoE: You

Re: DIS: The Disappointing Result

2008-10-22 Thread Alex Smith
On Wed, 2008-10-22 at 14:11 -0600, Roger Hicks wrote: I'm lost BobTHJ http://paste.lisp.org/display/69019 should highlight the pairs of parens if you hover your mouse over them. This may or may not help you find your way. (Pasting it into a pastebin that does that was my first reaction

Re: DIS: The Disappointing Result

2008-10-22 Thread Alex Smith
On Wed, 2008-10-22 at 14:28 -0600, Roger Hicks wrote: On Wed, Oct 22, 2008 at 14:18, Alex Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, 2008-10-22 at 14:11 -0600, Roger Hicks wrote: I'm lost BobTHJ http://paste.lisp.org/display/69019 should highlight the pairs of parens if you hover

DIS: Re: BUS: Bank Motion

2008-10-22 Thread Alex Smith
On Wed, 2008-10-22 at 11:26 -0600, Ian Kelly wrote: If this motion passes, I pledge to withdraw all coins from the bank and distribute floor(C * R) coins to each chitholder, where C is the number of coins withdrawn, and R is the ratio of that chitholder's chits to the number of all chits in

Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJ 2196 judged TRUE by ais523 / appealed by Goethe, woggle, root / appeal assigned to Goethe, Sir Toby, woggle

2008-10-22 Thread Alex Smith
On Wed, 2008-10-22 at 16:07 -0500, Pavitra wrote: On Wednesday 22 October 2008 12:51:31 am Ed Murphy wrote: Gratuitous Arguments by ais523: There now exists a nomic called One True Agora, which can also be called Agora. (Wooble created it a few minutes ago in ##nomic.) In specific

DIS: Re: BUS: cashout

2008-10-22 Thread Alex Smith
On Mon, 2008-10-20 at 11:45 -0700, Kerim Aydin wrote: I leave the Vote Market Agreement. Well done! (This is one of the first cases I can remember of someone becoming indebted, then leaving in a non-scam manner.) -- ais523

DIS: Re: OFF: Distribution of proposals 5803-5805

2008-10-22 Thread Alex Smith
On Tue, 2008-10-21 at 09:56 -0700, The PerlNomic Partnership wrote: NUM C I AI SUBMITTER TITLE I vote as follows (N.B. I can't remember if I've voted already, if I have these will be invalid): 5803 D 1 3.0 ais523 Pragmatic Ratification FOR 5804 D 0 2.0 woggle

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Bank Motion

2008-10-22 Thread Alex Smith
On Wed, 2008-10-22 at 15:39 -0600, Ian Kelly wrote: On Wed, Oct 22, 2008 at 2:20 PM, Alex Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks for proving the point. The PBA is designed to reward people who fix the rates to be more correct, which is what you did just there. In other words, if a rate

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Bank Motion

2008-10-22 Thread Alex Smith
On Wed, 2008-10-22 at 15:57 -0600, Ian Kelly wrote: On Wed, Oct 22, 2008 at 3:51 PM, Elliott Hird [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 22 Oct 2008, at 22:46, Ian Kelly wrote: but for some reason the PBA doesn't seem to have much of actual value. That's because PBA's designed not to

Re: DIS: Re: OFF: Distribution of proposals 5803-5805

2008-10-22 Thread Alex Smith
On Wed, 2008-10-22 at 16:02 -0600, Ian Kelly wrote: On Wed, Oct 22, 2008 at 3:28 PM, Alex Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 5804 D 0 2.0 woggle Power public contracts FOR unless one of Goethe, root, or Murphy retracts eir vote on 5804 I haven't even voted on it yet. Don't worry

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Proposal: Tweak veracity

2008-10-24 Thread Alex Smith
On Thu, 2008-10-23 at 22:49 -0400, Geoffrey Spear wrote: On Thu, Oct 23, 2008 at 10:17 PM, Pavitra [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Er, right. What's the word for the truth-value of this statement is true? I can't find it on Wikipedia. Indeterminate? Floyd? I don't know that there is a

DIS: Re: BUS: inactives

2008-10-24 Thread Alex Smith
On Fri, 2008-10-24 at 10:05 -0400, Geoffrey Spear wrote: On Mon, Oct 20, 2008 at 8:45 AM, Geoffrey Spear [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I intend, without objection, to deregister Schrodinger's Cat and avpx. I intend, without objection, to make Speaker pikhq inactive. Having received no

Re: DIS: Proto: Poet Laureate

2008-10-24 Thread Alex Smith
On Fri, 2008-10-24 at 10:18 -0600, Roger Hicks wrote: Bravo! You'd have my vote if you sent this to the public forum. Not mine, though, as it's insufficiently Powerful to allow wins. (You need Power 2 for that.) -- ais523

DIS: Enigma reminder

2008-10-24 Thread Alex Smith
On Thu, 2008-10-23 at 07:12 -0400, Joshua Boehme wrote: I join Enigma. There's still time to submit solutions to the current Enigma puzzle! For everyone who hasn't submitted a solution, this week's puzzle is at

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: When will you RBoA guys learn?

2008-10-24 Thread Alex Smith
On Fri, 2008-10-24 at 11:40 -0700, Ed Murphy wrote: ais523 wrote: I PBA-withdraw 8 Coins for 48 Chits. Come again? Obviously ineffective. I sent a corrected version in the next message. -- ais523

DIS: Scorekeepor's report

2008-10-24 Thread Alex Smith
This is just a reminder to BobTHJ that Scorekeepor is high-priority; e seems to have forgotten for a couple of weeks in a row. I'm not crimming em over this, not yet anyway, partly due to all the trouble I've been causing em lately... -- ais523

DIS: Re: BUS: Caste increase

2008-10-27 Thread Alex Smith
On Sat, 2008-10-25 at 18:31 -0400, Benjamin Schultz wrote: On Oct 25, 2008, at 1:16 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I spend E G# B to increase ehird's caste to Delta, unless this would violate the Note Exchange agreement. (I don't think it does, but this is from memory.) Also,

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: hi ehird

2008-10-27 Thread Alex Smith
On Mon, 2008-10-27 at 10:04 -0400, comex wrote: Note that I've already been well punished, losing 14 VP from that transaction, which is well-defined (the last VM report was a few days ago); there's no way that my holdings of any other asset is up to the exchange rate so the deposit-withdraw is

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Panel intent, CFJ 2203a

2008-10-27 Thread Alex Smith
On Mon, 2008-10-27 at 09:19 -0700, Kerim Aydin wrote: On Mon, 27 Oct 2008, Alex Smith wrote: I intend to send the following on behalf of the judicial panel in CFJ 2203a, with the support of two of {woggle, Goethe, the CotC}: {{{ This panel REMANDs CFJ 2203. The judge is instructed

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: I still suck at this sort of thing, but

2008-10-27 Thread Alex Smith
On Mon, 2008-10-27 at 16:35 +, Elliott Hird wrote: On 27 Oct 2008, at 16:31, Roger Hicks wrote: The total amount of coins ais523 deposited during the Bank Run was 551, not 719. Incorrect. That was how much I thought. My program says otherwise. (snip) I imagine your count is

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: Distribution of proposal 5822

2008-10-27 Thread Alex Smith
On Mon, 2008-10-27 at 12:03 -0600, Roger Hicks wrote: On Mon, Oct 27, 2008 at 11:52, Elliott Hird [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 27 Oct 2008, at 17:48, Roger Hicks wrote: Then vote against the mental health act. I thought it had no effect? (due to Power)? It can't modify contracts, but it can

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: Distribution of proposals 5794-5802

2008-10-27 Thread Alex Smith
On Mon, 2008-10-27 at 11:30 -0700, Kerim Aydin wrote: On Mon, 27 Oct 2008, Ian Kelly wrote: I agree that it's perfectly clear what's intended. But R1728 isn't looking for extension, it's looking for one of those three method schemata, period, and if the method doesn't match, then R1728

DIS: Re: BUS: PBA, milling

2008-10-27 Thread Alex Smith
On Mon, 2008-10-27 at 13:58 -0700, The PerlNomic Partnership wrote: The PNP withdraws one 1 crop from the PBA for ^9. The PNP withdraws one 1 crop from the PBA for ^10. Using the Mill with the first name in alphabetical order out of eir non-In Production Addition Mills, the PNP mills 1 + 1 =

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: PRS Cashout

2008-10-27 Thread Alex Smith
On Mon, 2008-10-27 at 14:07 -0700, Kerim Aydin wrote: On Mon, 27 Oct 2008, Roger Hicks wrote: On Mon, Oct 27, 2008 at 10:52, Alex Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The following sentence is a win announcement, and this sentence serves to clearly label it as one. ais523 has a score of at least

Re: DIS: State of the Economy

2008-10-27 Thread Alex Smith
On Mon, 2008-10-27 at 17:22 -0600, Roger Hicks wrote: On Mon, Oct 27, 2008 at 17:12, Taral [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, Oct 27, 2008 at 4:03 PM, Elliott Hird [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Also, you have too much power as is. What about a netural third party of some kind? Recordkeepors

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Centralized Offices

2008-10-29 Thread Alex Smith
On Mon, 2008-10-27 at 23:33 +, Elliott Hird wrote: On 27 Oct 2008, at 23:31, comex wrote: Can you implement all the roles of all offices in a completely automated system without too much hassle on normal game actions? I will leave the work of thinking about that to the Speaker.

Re: DIS: Error in Notary's records

2008-10-29 Thread Alex Smith
On Wed, 2008-10-29 at 06:17 -0700, Ed Murphy wrote: The Notary's records still list Levi as party to the AFO. I'm pretty sure we removed em a while back (e was no longer a player, and evidently no longer following the game). Ah yes, e was removed by proposal 5576. (That took me quite a while

DIS: Re: BUS: Panel intent, CFJ 2203a

2008-10-29 Thread Alex Smith
On Wed, 2008-10-29 at 12:26 -0700, Charles Reiss wrote: On Mon, Oct 27, 2008 at 07:27, Alex Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I intend to send the following on behalf of the judicial panel in CFJ 2203a, with the support of two of {woggle, Goethe, the CotC}: {{{ This panel REMANDs CFJ 2203

DIS: Re: OFF: Short Logical Ruleset

2008-10-30 Thread Alex Smith
On Thu, 2008-10-30 at 11:34 -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: THE SHORT LOGICAL RULESET CoE: You forgot to recordkeep the Rule /0 (Power=4) Dictatorship ais523 may change the rules by announcement.. (Per rule 2166 and the Not a rule really contract, information about that weirdly-named asset is

Re: DIS: Re: OFF: Short Logical Ruleset

2008-10-30 Thread Alex Smith
On Thu, 2008-10-30 at 13:06 -0700, Taral wrote: On Thu, Oct 30, 2008 at 12:13 PM, Alex Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 2008-10-30 at 11:34 -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: THE SHORT LOGICAL RULESET CoE: You forgot to recordkeep the Rule /0 (Power=4) Dictatorship ais523 may

DIS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJ 2203 overruled to FALSE by Goethe, ais523, woggle

2008-10-30 Thread Alex Smith
On Thu, 2008-10-30 at 00:45 -0700, Ed Murphy wrote: Detail: http://zenith.homelinux.net/cotc/viewcase.php?cfj=2203a Appeal 2203a Panelist: woggle Decision: OVERRULE/FALSE

Re: DIS: Re: OFF: Short Logical Ruleset

2008-10-30 Thread Alex Smith
On Thu, 2008-10-30 at 14:32 -0700, Kerim Aydin wrote: On Thu, 30 Oct 2008, Alex Smith wrote: Rule 2166 implies that the information in the contract is part of the Rulekeepor's report, regardless of whether the Rulekeepor is party to it or not. (The contract doesn't bind anyone to post

DIS: Re: BUS: This Makes You Feel Pain

2008-10-30 Thread Alex Smith
On Thu, 2008-10-30 at 18:01 -0400, comex wrote: On Thu, Oct 30, 2008 at 5:58 PM, Alex Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I intend, without objection, to terminate the above-quoted contract. I object. This is an abuse of the Notary's power, although quite possibly anyone should be allowed

Re: DIS: Re: OFF: Short Logical Ruleset

2008-10-30 Thread Alex Smith
On Thu, 2008-10-30 at 15:10 -0700, Kerim Aydin wrote: For example, if I wrote in a contract this contract imposes the following obligations on non-members, but these obligations should not be considered 'becoming party to' the agreement, it would seem obvious that this violates R101 and

DIS: Re: BUS: Deeper clarification

2008-10-30 Thread Alex Smith
On Thu, 2008-10-30 at 15:33 -0700, Kerim Aydin wrote: I submit the following Rule, Generalize R101(iv), AI-3: --- [Bug or lack of clarity: The text of a contract should not be able to generally impose any obligations,

Re: DIS: Economic Automation

2008-10-31 Thread Alex Smith
On Fri, 2008-10-31 at 10:45 -0600, Roger Hicks wrote: Tracking of economic transactions is now automated and unified which should prevent further errors and difficulties in the transaction process. Presently I am tracking gamestate for the following contracts: Yay, thanks very much for this.

Re: DIS: Economic Automation

2008-10-31 Thread Alex Smith
On Fri, 2008-10-31 at 10:45 -0600, Roger Hicks wrote: Tracking of economic transactions is now automated and unified which should prevent further errors and difficulties in the transaction process. Presently I am tracking gamestate for the following contracts: AAA PBA (unofficially, though

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: A silly paradox

2008-10-31 Thread Alex Smith
On Fri, 2008-10-31 at 16:09 -0400, warrigal wrote: On Fri, Oct 31, 2008 at 11:52 AM, Ian Kelly [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, Oct 31, 2008 at 4:56 AM, warrigal [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But if the Terre Haute is the Terre Haute, then it is a string, which exists independently of the

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Why distributed recordkeepors are a bad idea

2008-10-31 Thread Alex Smith
On Fri, 2008-10-31 at 14:38 -0600, Roger Hicks wrote: On Fri, Oct 31, 2008 at 14:33, Alex Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I Pterodactyl. If I can, I destroy a Flungeon in my possession, causing me to transfer an 8 crop to the PNP. Yeah, it's a bad idea. I'm considering the above action

Re: DIS: AAA point award

2008-10-31 Thread Alex Smith
On Fri, 2008-10-31 at 15:41 -0600, Roger Hicks wrote: My automated system just sent out a point award for Muprhy for the AAA. I don't get copies of messages I send, but I took a look at it on the list archive. Was it clear to everyone that this message was from me? It looks as if it may have

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Deeper clarification

2008-11-03 Thread Alex Smith
On Mon, 2008-11-03 at 10:22 -0500, Geoffrey Spear wrote: On Thu, Oct 30, 2008 at 5:33 PM, Kerim Aydin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I submit the following Rule, Generalize R101(iv), AI-3: Should the PNP take this as an unambiguous attempt to submit a proposal? I don't think so, it isn't clear.

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: How a proposal can break the rules

2008-11-03 Thread Alex Smith
On Mon, 2008-11-03 at 09:36 -0600, Roger Hicks wrote: On Mon, Nov 3, 2008 at 09:24, Alex Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I hereby submit the following public contract, called the Reformed Bank of Agora, as a proposal with a title of Reformed Bank of Agora, an AI of 1, and an II of 0

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: PBA, milling

2008-11-04 Thread Alex Smith
On Tue, 2008-11-04 at 17:51 +, Elliott Hird wrote: On 4 Nov 2008, at 17:24, Roger Hicks wrote: Take a look at my online log, but some of the deposits didn't happen due to the PnP not having the appropriate crops. Yes, in the _up to date online report which is always available at

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: I still suck at this sort of thing, but

2008-11-04 Thread Alex Smith
On Tue, 2008-11-04 at 10:55 -0700, Roger Hicks wrote: On Tue, Nov 4, 2008 at 10:51, Elliott Hird [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 4 Nov 2008, at 15:44, Roger Hicks wrote: FYI, after this transaction the RBoA had 0 coins. k The reports definitely agree at this point, I checked myself. That

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJ 2248a assigned to BobTHJ, Wooble, ais523

2008-11-04 Thread Alex Smith
On Tue, 2008-11-04 at 12:55 -0700, Roger Hicks wrote: On Tue, Nov 4, 2008 at 12:48, Geoffrey Spear [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, Nov 2, 2008 at 11:49 PM, Ed Murphy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Detail: http://zenith.homelinux.net/cotc/viewcase.php?cfj=2248a

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJ 2248a assigned to BobTHJ, Wooble, ais523

2008-11-04 Thread Alex Smith
On Tue, 2008-11-04 at 13:21 -0700, Ian Kelly wrote: My objection isn't over whether or not it's reasonable, but to the total lack arguments. Actually, I think the appropriate judgement here is AFFIRM but with different arguments to the original judge. I don't have arguments handy yet, though,

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Water Rights Enforcement

2008-11-04 Thread Alex Smith
On Tue, 2008-11-04 at 17:00 -0500, comex wrote: On Tue, Nov 4, 2008 at 2:08 PM, Roger Hicks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Disregard the automated mail enforcing water rights, it is in error. If needed: For each WRV and land destroyed in my previous message about enforcing water rights I create

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: I still suck at this sort of thing, but

2008-11-04 Thread Alex Smith
On Tue, 2008-11-04 at 22:18 +, Elliott Hird wrote: On 4 Nov 2008, at 22:13, Roger Hicks wrote: therefore the RBOA rules for transactions apply, not the PBAs That's a great way to cause mass confusion. So now I get to special-case the RBoA in my program... No, it's very easy,

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: Distribution of proposals 5833-5840

2008-11-04 Thread Alex Smith
On Tue, 2008-11-04 at 15:28 -0700, Ian Kelly wrote: 5833 D 1 2.0 Murphy No involuntary recordkeepors FOR 5834 D 1 3.0 Goethe Powered defines v0.3 FOR 5835 D 1 2.0 Goethe pledge fixup FOR 5836 D 1 2.0 Murphy Generalize continuity FOR

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Water Rights Enforcement

2008-11-04 Thread Alex Smith
On Tue, 2008-11-04 at 16:46 -0600, Pavitra wrote: On Tuesday 04 November 2008 04:02:50 pm Alex Smith wrote: Does this mean that all the Ranches in existence are owned by the LFD, and that none have ever been destroyed due to water rights enforcement? MASSIVE GAMESTATE RECALCULATION

Re: BUS: Re: DIS: Fwd: [s-b] The Monster has moved shop to B

2008-11-05 Thread Alex Smith
On Tue, 2008-11-04 at 16:37 -0800, Charles Reiss wrote: On Tue, Nov 4, 2008 at 16:30, comex [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, Nov 4, 2008 at 7:12 PM, Elliott Hird [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I repeal rules 2214, 2192 and 2193. This fails because you are not an instrument (see Rule 105).

DIS: Re: BUS: protection racket business

2008-11-05 Thread Alex Smith
On Thu, 2008-10-30 at 11:36 -0400, Geoffrey Spear wrote: On Thu, Oct 30, 2008 at 11:24 AM, Geoffrey Spear [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I intend, with the consent of ehird, to amend the Protection Racket Agreement to add: {{ 15. ehird CAN act on behalf of BobTHJ to retract any Equity Case

DIS: Werewolves?

2008-11-05 Thread Alex Smith
What's happening to the Werewolves contract at the moment? As far as I can tell, there's no current session, but there ought to be. -- ais523

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: My Powers I Can Feel Them.

2008-11-05 Thread Alex Smith
On Thu, 2008-10-30 at 14:30 -0700, Ed Murphy wrote: BobTHJ wrote: On Thu, Oct 30, 2008 at 14:43, Ed Murphy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I agree to the following: { This is a pledge. If BobTHJ has filled the Get Out of Jail Free Card, then e CAN act on my behalf to assign a judge to an

Re: BUS: Re: DIS: Fwd: [s-b] The Monster has moved shop to B

2008-11-05 Thread Alex Smith
On Wed, 2008-11-05 at 11:28 -0800, Taral wrote: On Wed, Nov 5, 2008 at 8:48 AM, Elliott Hird [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Without 2 objections I intend to cause the Monster to repeal rules 2214, 2192 and 2193. I object. Why? This is basically just fixing a buggy proposal via Monster. It'll

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Assessor] Voting results for Proposals 5807 - 5821

2008-11-05 Thread Alex Smith
On Sat, 2008-11-01 at 20:14 -0700, Kerim Aydin wrote: I call for judgement on the following statement: All non-public pledges that existed at the time of passage of Proposal 5817 are null and void (i.e. no longer exist). As Notary, I've been acting as if this were TRUE, although I have a

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Assessor] Voting results for Proposals 5807 - 5821

2008-11-05 Thread Alex Smith
On Wed, 2008-11-05 at 20:39 +, Alex Smith wrote: On Sat, 2008-11-01 at 20:14 -0700, Kerim Aydin wrote: I call for judgement on the following statement: All non-public pledges that existed at the time of passage of Proposal 5817 are null and void (i.e. no longer exist). As Notary

Re: BUS: Re: DIS: Fwd: [s-b] The Monster has moved shop to B

2008-11-05 Thread Alex Smith
On Wed, 2008-11-05 at 12:42 -0800, Ed Murphy wrote: Taral wrote: On Wed, Nov 5, 2008 at 8:48 AM, Elliott Hird [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Without 2 objections I intend to cause the Monster to repeal rules 2214, 2192 and 2193. I object. I also object. Proposal 5810 passed by almost

DIS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJ 2246 assigned to ais523

2008-11-05 Thread Alex Smith
On Sun, 2008-11-02 at 08:14 -0800, Ed Murphy wrote: == CFJ 2246 == CFJ 2245 was retracted. Very long proto-judge's-arguments that don't even come to a

Re: DIS: Partnership models

2008-11-05 Thread Alex Smith
On Sun, 2008-11-02 at 12:41 -0600, Pavitra wrote: On Sunday 26 October 2008 11:30:38 am Kerim Aydin wrote: On Sun, 26 Oct 2008, Kerim Aydin wrote: On Sat, 25 Oct 2008, Ed Murphy wrote: Revisiting my B.N. thesis (11/29/07) on partnerships, I've identified the following general models of

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Follow the rules!

2008-11-05 Thread Alex Smith
On Mon, 2008-11-03 at 11:01 -0700, Ian Kelly wrote: On Mon, Nov 3, 2008 at 8:12 AM, Sgeo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I call an equity case relating to the Vote Market which (according to the notary, although it seems to omit me, so I added myself) has the following parties: BobTHJ,

DIS: Re: BUS: Futures Payment/Remarket

2008-11-05 Thread Alex Smith
On Wed, 2008-11-05 at 23:10 +, Alex Smith wrote: On Tue, 2008-11-04 at 12:06 -0800, Charles Reiss wrote: I submit the following Sell Ticket: Cost: AUCTION Action: In a timely fashion after waters rights are enforced in December, transfer min(400, floor(Z * 1.5)) coins to the filler

DIS: Re: BUS: in the spirit of the recent Democratic electoral victory

2008-11-06 Thread Alex Smith
On Thu, 2008-11-06 at 12:31 -0700, Ian Kelly wrote: On Thu, Nov 6, 2008 at 11:23 AM, Alex Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And with necessary support, I filibuster 5842-5941. I intend, with 4 supporting senators, to end these filibusters. I post the following Sell Ticket: * Cost: 15 VP

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: in the spirit of the recent Democratic electoral victory

2008-11-06 Thread Alex Smith
On Thu, 2008-11-06 at 12:40 -0700, Ian Kelly wrote: On Thu, Nov 6, 2008 at 12:37 PM, Alex Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 2008-11-06 at 12:31 -0700, Ian Kelly wrote: On Thu, Nov 6, 2008 at 11:23 AM, Alex Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And with necessary support, I filibuster 5842

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: in the spirit of the recent Democratic electoral victory

2008-11-06 Thread Alex Smith
On Thu, 2008-11-06 at 19:44 +, Alex Smith wrote: On Thu, 2008-11-06 at 12:40 -0700, Ian Kelly wrote: On Thu, Nov 6, 2008 at 12:37 PM, Alex Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 2008-11-06 at 12:31 -0700, Ian Kelly wrote: On Thu, Nov 6, 2008 at 11:23 AM, Alex Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: protection

2008-11-06 Thread Alex Smith
On Thu, 2008-11-06 at 12:52 -0700, Roger Hicks wrote: I agree to the following pledge/contract if ehird also does: { 1. The name of this pledge / contract is the InterBank Reconciliation Agreement 2. Upon the inception of this agreement, BobTHJ SHALL modify eir PBA report to reflect the

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: in the spirit of the recent Democratic electoral victory

2008-11-06 Thread Alex Smith
On Thu, 2008-11-06 at 12:11 -0800, Kerim Aydin wrote: On Thu, 6 Nov 2008, Alex Smith wrote: My point is: the filibuster rule is not a dependent action, according to rule 1728. Therefore, if it works at all, it works due to the ordinary English meaning of what it says. with 2 supporting

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: in the spirit of the recent Democratic electoral victory

2008-11-06 Thread Alex Smith
On Thu, 2008-11-06 at 12:45 -0800, Kerim Aydin wrote: On Thu, 6 Nov 2008, Taral wrote: On Thu, Nov 6, 2008 at 12:37 PM, Ian Kelly [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's 1000 points per week... So points reset every week until it's fixed by a proposal. Problem? Not really. (unless you're doing

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