DIS: Re: BUS: assuming judicial reforms stuck...

2006-08-28 Thread Taral
. -- Taral [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can't prove anything. -- Gödel's Incompetence Theorem

Re: DIS: Re: OFF: Distribution of Proposals 4869-4870

2006-09-18 Thread Taral
On 9/18/06, Benjamin Schultz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If so, would the Glorious Speaker please collect the votes. Not me! *dances* -- The Goddess Eris [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can't prove anything. -- Gödel's Incompetence Theorem

Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [Fed up] Does anyone care? Plus voting results

2006-10-26 Thread Taral
On 10/26/06, Quazie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Agora can't die... it just can't... On 10/26/06, Kerim Aydin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 1. Does anyone else care if this game continues, really? 2. Would it help if I published the new ruleset? (Answer honestly, I don't want to waste time if no

Re: DIS: Re: OFF: Rulekeepor's Memo

2006-11-09 Thread Taral
On 11/9/06, Ian Kelly [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I hereby gamble and commit wanton adultery. insert classic Kelly quote -- Taral [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can't prove anything. -- Gödel's Incompetence Theorem

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: I register

2006-12-20 Thread Taral
) http://www.agoranomic.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/agora-official/2006-December/002743.html -- Taral [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can't prove anything. -- Gödel's Incompetence Theorem

Re: DIS: Agora Nomic Wiki

2006-12-20 Thread Taral
On 12/20/06, Manuel Lanctot [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You asked for it, you got it. http://agora.lendemaindeveille.com I'll buy a domain name if we use it enough. Now let's see how long it takes for spam bots to find it. If you like, I can put up a record for it on agoranomic.org. -- Taral

DIS: Re: BUS: CFJ

2006-12-20 Thread Taral
On 12/20/06, Taral [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Forget that. If I were still registered I'll allege that Goethe had won by paradox. I'd. Damn fast typing. -- Taral [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can't prove anything. -- Gödel's Incompetence Theorem

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Rook Promotes to Dragon King

2007-01-04 Thread Taral
are mutually exclusive X for {A, B, C} \subset X. Doesn't makes sense otherwise. -- Taral [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can't prove anything. -- Gödel's Incompetence Theorem

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Rook Promotes to Dragon King

2007-01-05 Thread Taral
. :) -- Taral [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can't prove anything. -- Gödel's Incompetence Theorem

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: registration and CFJs

2007-01-10 Thread Taral
AWW! On 1/10/07, Michael Slone [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 1/10/07, Taral [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I register again. :D You deregistered on 13 December, so rule 869 prohibits you from registering today. -- Michael Slone -- Taral [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can't prove anything. -- Gödel's

DIS: Re: BUS: CFJ on Unanimity

2007-01-11 Thread Taral
it no longer has any numerical properties. It retains the properties it had when it was last defined, no? -- Taral [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can't prove anything. -- Gödel's Incompetence Theorem

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: proposal: fix unanimity

2007-01-12 Thread Taral
On 1/12/07, Michael Slone [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 1/11/07, Taral [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I *hate* the ultrapower construction, because nobody's been able to actually construct a free ultrafilter. Nobody's been able to construct a free ultrafilter because it's impossible to do so. Hope

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: proposal: fix unanimity

2007-01-12 Thread Taral
On 1/12/07, Michael Slone [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Are you talking about the Schmieden--Laugwitz construction (using a cofinite filter)? Their construction produces a ring with zero divisors, and it isn't even an ordered ring. Hm, it seems I was mistaken. -- Taral [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can't

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: CFJ on Unanimity

2007-01-12 Thread Taral
On 1/12/07, Ed Murphy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This rule does not define Zefram. It does define Zefram's playerhood, but so do some other rules. If a rule says X is a Y., under what circumstances does it then define X? -- Taral [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can't prove anything. -- Gödel's

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: CFJ on Unanimity

2007-01-13 Thread Taral
On 1/12/07, Ed Murphy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: When X does not exist independently of the rules. What if it says This Rule defines X. X is a Y.? -- Taral [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can't prove anything. -- Gödel's Incompetence Theorem

DIS: Re: BUS: pineapple

2007-02-26 Thread Taral
On 2/26/07, Zefram [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The Pineapple Partnership hereby registers as a player. Oh, beautiful! -- Taral [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can't prove anything. -- Gödel's Incompetence Theorem

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Proposal: Paragraphs and pineapples

2007-02-28 Thread Taral
free votes. -- Taral [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can't prove anything. -- Gödel's Incompetence Theorem

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Proto: conflict of interest

2007-03-10 Thread Taral
of the judiciary? Err... it's just a summary of a larger list of items. Sure, you can publish it, and if someone is interested in implementing it, please get a hold of me so we can discuss the full list. -- Taral [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can't prove anything. -- Gödel's Incompetence Theorem

Re: DIS: web pages

2007-04-11 Thread Taral
Abracadabra! *poof* On 4/11/07, Zefram [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: *prod* The website's still in its old crap form. Please put up the page that I drafted at http://www.fysh.org/~zefram/tmp/agoranomic.html. -zefram -- Taral [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can't prove anything. -- Gödel's

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: proposal: slim the map

2007-04-25 Thread Taral
On 4/25/07, Zefram [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Benjamin Schultz wrote: I'm voting against this, because I don't see Zefram adding emself to the map in this proposal. Eep. I thought I'd attract votes against if I *did* add anything. Yes! -- Taral [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can't prove anything

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: I'm baaack!

2007-04-30 Thread Taral
On 4/29/07, Benjamin Schultz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Apr 28, 2007, at 1:21 PM, Taral wrote: I, The Goddess Eris, register. I, Promotor OscarMeyr, welcome you back. How was your vacation? Fascinating. -- The Goddess Eris [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can't prove anything. -- Gödel's

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJs 1638-1645 assigned to Goethe

2007-04-30 Thread Taral
On 4/29/07, Michael Slone [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I intend, with Agoran Consent, to make Murphy the holder of the office of Clerk of the Courts. I object. This is a scam-response, not a failure to do the job. Goethe seems to do it well. -- The Goddess Eris [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can't prove

DIS: Re: BUS: Registration request

2007-04-30 Thread Taral
You don't have to ask permission. :D On 4/30/07, Roger Hicks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I hereby request permission to register under the name BobTHJ. Thanks, BobTHJ -- Taral [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can't prove anything. -- Gödel's Incompetence Theorem

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Proposal: No free votes

2007-05-03 Thread Taral
On 5/3/07, quazie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So non-natural players may not vote on democratic proposals? Exactly. -- Taral [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can't prove anything. -- Gödel's Incompetence Theorem

DIS: Re: OFF: [Assessor] Voting results for Proposals 4941 - 4946

2007-05-03 Thread Taral
On 5/3/07, Ed Murphy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 4941 4942 4943 4944 4945 4946 AI 3 3 3 3 1.1 1.1 VI 0.75 7 3.5 *U*1 2.5 4945 looks like failed to pass to me. Or is there some quirk I'm missing? -- Taral [EMAIL

Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [Assessor] Voting results for Proposals 4941 - 4946

2007-05-03 Thread Taral
On 5/3/07, Ed Murphy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And I reported it as failing to pass. In particular, the Text of adopted proposals section does not include it. Oops, I got the columns confused, thought 4945 was Slim the map. -- Taral [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can't prove anything. -- Gödel's

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Proposal: No free votes

2007-05-04 Thread Taral
is one less than it would be if the voter was not a natural person. Any suggestions on wording? -- Taral [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can't prove anything. -- Gödel's Incompetence Theorem

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Proposal: No free votes

2007-05-04 Thread Taral
On 5/4/07, Michael Slone [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have a better idea: restrict playerhood to actual persons. How boring. -- Taral [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can't prove anything. -- Gödel's Incompetence Theorem

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Proto: Switches reborn

2007-05-08 Thread Taral
deontic logic might be closer, but it axiomatizes the concept that ought implies can. -- Taral [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can't prove anything. -- Gödel's Incompetence Theorem

DIS: Re: BUS: Proto: Bring Back Executors

2007-05-09 Thread Taral
On 5/9/07, Michael Slone [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Grant executorship of the Pineapple Partnership to Goethe and Zefram. Grant executorship of Human Point Two to Murphy and Quazie. Are proposals empowered to change executorship? -- Taral [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can't prove anything

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Proto: Switches reborn

2007-05-12 Thread Taral
On 5/9/07, Michael Slone [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 5/9/07, Taral [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sorry, I'm going on what wikipedia says: deontic logics are modal logics with axiom D: O(A) - P(A). But P(A) means that A is permissible, not that A is possible. I'm working through one of von

Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJ 1651 assigned to Quazie

2007-05-13 Thread Taral
of the individual rather than the ambiguity of the description which prevents public agreement. You, sir, are cited for the use of domain-specific meanings in a general context. :P -- Taral [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can't prove anything. -- Gödel's Incompetence Theorem

Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJ 1651 assigned to Quazie

2007-05-15 Thread Taral
On 5/15/07, Michael Slone [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I would expect a goddess to know not to call me ``sir''. Bah, you'd spoil a perfectly quotable statement with some nitpick. :P -- Eris [EMAIL PROTECTED] She, he... do you really want to get that close? -- Me

Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJ 1651 assigned to Quazie

2007-05-15 Thread Taral
. Curiouser and curiouser. -- Taral [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please let me know if there's any further trouble I can give you. -- Unknown

DIS: Proto: Quorum fix

2007-05-17 Thread Taral
the existing text.) -- Taral [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please let me know if there's any further trouble I can give you. -- Unknown

DIS: Re: OFF: distribution of proposals 4976-4980

2007-05-19 Thread Taral
Don't force redundant elections FOR -- Taral [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please let me know if there's any further trouble I can give you. -- Unknown

DIS: Re: OFF: distribution of proposals 4981-4983

2007-05-23 Thread Taral
is hereby deregistered. I am not sure that a proposal is empowered to deregister players. -- Taral [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please let me know if there's any further trouble I can give you. -- Unknown

Re: DIS: Re: OFF: distribution of proposals 4981-4983

2007-05-23 Thread Taral
On 5/23/07, Zefram [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Taral wrote: I am not sure that a proposal is empowered to deregister players. Why not? Proposals can make pretty much any change to the gamestate. They can? Where does it say that? -- Taral [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please let me know if there's any

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Proposal: Protectorates

2007-05-24 Thread Taral
You can withdraw and resubmit. On 5/24/07, Roger Hicks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I suppose so. Am I permitted to modify proposals after I submit them? -- Taral [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please let me know if there's any further trouble I can give you. -- Unknown

DIS: Re: BUS: Motion on CFJ 1661 (more CotC actions)

2007-05-30 Thread Taral
On 5/30/07, comex [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I assign CFJ 1684 to Eris. Eris is now turned. Meanie. -- Eris [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please let me know if there's any further trouble I can give you. -- Unknown

DIS: Re: BUS: Primo Share transfers

2007-06-07 Thread Taral
On 6/6/07, Ed Murphy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I write Kallisti on the back of 1 Share of Primo Corporation, then transfer it to Eris. I attempt to eat 1 Share of Primo Corporation, but it doesn't taste very good. Whatever happened to using apples? -- Eris [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please let me know

DIS: Re: BUS: Proto: Limited Partnerships, take fifteen

2007-06-07 Thread Taral
-natural-person members. A partnership is prohibited from registering if its basis is the same as that of another registered partnership. Very good. Now just identify them and we'll avoid any issues. -- Taral [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please let me know if there's any further trouble I can give

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Proto: Limited Partnerships, take fifteen

2007-06-07 Thread Taral
On 6/7/07, Zefram [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Taral wrote: Very good. Now just identify them and we'll avoid any issues. We voted against that already: proposals 4973 and 4974. Sorry, math identify - make equal. -- Taral [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please let me know if there's any further trouble I can

Re: DIS: proto: CFJ by announcement

2007-06-09 Thread Taral
colors bookmarklet: http://www.squarefree.com/bookmarklets/zap.html -- Taral [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please let me know if there's any further trouble I can give you. -- Unknown

DIS: Re: BUS: Proposal - Make 1.1 ordinary

2007-06-11 Thread Taral
On 6/11/07, Levi Stephen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A Proposal with an Adoption Index of less than 2 is Ordinary. Spurious of? -- Taral [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please let me know if there's any further trouble I can give you. -- Unknown

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Proposal - Make 1.1 ordinary

2007-06-11 Thread Taral
On 6/11/07, Michael Slone [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 6/11/07, Taral [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Spurious of? It's just reification of indices. I don't see the problem. It's not a problem - just an aesthetic thing. -- Taral [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please let me know if there's any further trouble I

DIS: Re: BUS: Judgement in CFJ 1684

2007-06-19 Thread Taral
On 6/19/07, Taral [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ha! :) *ahem* CHAOS AND DISORDER! YAY! - Her Most Chaotic Divinity, The Goddess Eris

DIS: Re: BUS: Preserve the Partnerships

2007-06-19 Thread Taral
, and responsibilities onto the parties of that agreement to be a non-natural person. }} } BobTHJ -- Taral [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please let me know if there's any further trouble I can give you. -- Unknown

DIS: Re: BUS: Registration

2007-06-20 Thread Taral
understand signatures?) -- Taral [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please let me know if there's any further trouble I can give you. -- Unknown

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Proto: Single Use VCs

2007-06-20 Thread Taral
-sensitive cases) to propose in duplicate, so that you can't vote all the copies down. How about if you keep them if you use them AGAINST, but not if you use them FOR? -- Taral [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please let me know if there's any further trouble I can give you. -- Unknown

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Proto: Regulate CFJ numbers

2007-06-20 Thread Taral
On 6/20/07, Zefram [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Taral wrote: I can't wait to get my hands on this... Memo to Agora: don't put Eris in charge of numbering anything if e's got a seventeen-digit number secreted about eir person. Memo to Zefram: Look up computable numbers. -- Taral [EMAIL PROTECTED

DIS: Re: BUS: Proto: Regulate ID numbers

2007-06-20 Thread Taral
, to be assigned by the Promotor. Amend Rule 897 (Court Procedure) by appending, after the paragraph containing The Clerk of the Courts shall publish the text of a CFJ, this text: CFJs have ID numbers, to be assigned by the Clerk of the Courts. -- Taral [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please let

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Proto: Regulate ID numbers

2007-06-21 Thread Taral
Conway's notation). Oh, bother. The wikipedia article references computable reals, but there is such a thing as a non-computable natural number. -- Taral [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please let me know if there's any further trouble I can give you. -- Unknown

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Proto: Regulate ID numbers

2007-06-21 Thread Taral
function or set, but that's not a usage I'm familiar with. The busy beaver S() function, for example, is a canonical example of a non-computable function yielding natural numbers. I call these non-computable natural numbers. -- Taral [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please let me know if there's any further

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Proto-Contest: Mediocrity

2007-07-05 Thread Taral
On 7/5/07, Kerim Aydin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Eris wrote: Where's the Party? :) Do you have an apple handy that says to the second-prettiest one? Of course not! -- Eris [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please let me know if there's any further trouble I can give you. -- Unknown

Re: DIS: proto: judicial reform

2007-07-05 Thread Taral
), I'm not sure you've implemented the useful contents of these rules in your substitute. -- Taral [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please let me know if there's any further trouble I can give you. -- Unknown

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Proto-Contest: Mediocrity

2007-07-05 Thread Taral
On 7/5/07, Benjamin Schultz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Instead of an apple, how about a sour grape? Easy. Those grow on trees. Good luck reaching them. -- Taral [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please let me know if there's any further trouble I can give you. -- Unknown

DIS: Re: BUS: Proto-verdict on 1684a

2007-07-27 Thread Taral
, Rule 754 (3) applies; in the latter, it does not. This is somewhat time-reversed analysis. person was human until Zefram decided that maybe legal persons might be allowed. -- Taral [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please let me know if there's any further trouble I can give you. -- Unknown

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Proto-verdict on 1684a

2007-07-27 Thread Taral
On 7/27/07, Ed Murphy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Are you going to be the one to tell Blob that? I had no reason to believe that Blob was not simply a nickname for a person. -- Taral [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please let me know if there's any further trouble I can give you. -- Unknown

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Proto-verdict on 1684a

2007-07-29 Thread Taral
On 7/29/07, Zefram [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Taral wrote: I had no reason to believe that Blob was not simply a nickname for a person. It certainly is a nickname for a person. That person has consistently claimed that e is not human. I have no reason to believe that any more than anyone

DIS: Re: OFF: rulekeepor's notes on proposals 5107-5114

2007-08-02 Thread Taral
in the rule. (It's in rule 2147 instead.) The retitling is successful. *snerk* -- Taral [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please let me know if there's any further trouble I can give you. -- Unknown

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: CFJ 1714: assign Zefram

2007-08-03 Thread Taral
didn't clearly state what you mean by legal (legal by Agoran standards? the foreign nomic's?). Game Actions are not defined/regulated by Agora, so IRRELEVANT might apply instead of UNDECIDABLE, but that won't get you the kind of answer you want. -- Taral [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please let me know

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: CFJ 1714a: assign BobTHJ, Murphy, root

2007-08-06 Thread Taral
On 8/6/07, Zefram [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Eris sitting up has changed this, however. *wink* -- The Goddess Eris [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please let me know if there's any further trouble I can give you. -- Unknown

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: CFJ: Fnord!

2007-08-08 Thread Taral
On 8/8/07, Peekee [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I would urge Judge root to Judge TRUE. If I am foolish enough to allow other people/Players to send email as if from me. Then those messages should be considered as being sent from me. What if somebody left their email account open and somebody sent

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: distribution of proposals 5120-5133

2007-08-08 Thread Taral
On 8/8/07, Zefram [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Taral wrote: 5120 Oi 1Murphy Allow implicit resolution FOR Your voting limit on the ordinary proposals in this batch is 4. Yes, but I hate tracking that number. So I vote once unless I feel the need to vote more. -- Taral [EMAIL

DIS: Re: BUS: roposal: Support Ordinary

2007-08-08 Thread Taral
. You're still losing the first character of your subject lines. I don't like this -- it takes 3 people with high EVLOP to bork the system. Majority or something might be better? -- Taral [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please let me know if there's any further trouble I can give you. -- Unknown

Re: BUS: Re: DIS: Re: OFF: judicial status

2007-08-15 Thread Taral
the support indices by one? -- Taral [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please let me know if there's any further trouble I can give you. -- Unknown

Re: DIS: proto: black cap

2007-08-17 Thread Taral
On 8/17/07, Zefram [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: within a time limit, e gains one VC. The VC gained is Black if the judicial question is on sentencing, or Blue otherwise. on veracity or culpability, e gains one Blue VC, unless e Spurious line. -- Taral [EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: distribution of proposals 5147-5171

2007-08-20 Thread Taral
On 8/20/07, Zefram [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Whence the anti-Zefram movement? I don't think it's a personal thing, Zefram. For all we know, those votes could have been I'll vote AGAINST this one just because I can, and vote FOR the other because it's funny. -- Taral [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please let

DIS: Re: OFF: revival of old proposals

2007-08-24 Thread Taral
On 8/24/07, Zefram [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The submitted form of each of these three proposals is in the proposal pool (as it has been since late 2006). Can they be withdrawn? -- Taral [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please let me know if there's any further trouble I can give you. -- Unknown

Re: DIS: CotC DB

2007-08-31 Thread Taral
On 8/30/07, Ed Murphy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Eris, how do I regenerate cotc_amend.pyc from cotc_amend.py? Not that it matters AFAICT, since I'm not setting matters.typecode = 'Criminal' directly when entering the CFJ, but adjusting it manually afterward. Automatic. -- Taral [EMAIL

DIS: Proto-Judgement: CFJ 1739

2007-09-04 Thread Taral
On 8/29/07, Zefram [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Statement: A part of a message sent to a Public Forum that is quoting another message (even if the quote is intended to perform an action) is never a violation of Rule 2149 to publish. [Proto-Judgement] Veracity: UNDECIDABLE

DIS: Proto-Proposal: Lying down on the job

2007-09-06 Thread Taral
Proto-Proposal: Lying down on the job Add the following paragraph to the end of Rule 1871 (The Standing Court): When a judge is recused with cause, e becomes supine. (Players can make themselves sitting right away if they want.) -- Taral [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please let me know if there's

DIS: Re: BUS: Nominations

2007-09-07 Thread Taral
On 9/7/07, Ed Murphy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I nominate Eris and Pavitra for International Associate Director of Personnel. I consent -- Eris [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please let me know if there's any further trouble I can give you. -- Unknown

DIS: Proto-Proposal: Lying down on the job II

2007-09-13 Thread Taral
by announcement. (Perhaps the by announcement bit should be split off into a separate statement?) -- Taral [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please let me know if there's any further trouble I can give you. -- Unknown

Re: DIS: Proto-Proposal: Lying down on the job II

2007-09-13 Thread Taral
On 9/13/07, comex [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But the proposal confuses me; I don't understand how the second sentence is necessary given the first one. Oops. Ignore the first sentence, that's the old proto. -- Taral [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please let me know if there's any further trouble I can give

DIS: Re: BUS: Inactivity

2007-09-16 Thread Taral
On 9/16/07, Roger Hicks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 9/16/07, Taral [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I announce my intent to make BobTHJ inactive without objection. I vote OBJECT. I don't have much time but I'm still here. Ah, well, at least make yourself ineligible to judge if you don't have time

DIS: Re: BUS: Nominations

2007-09-18 Thread Taral
. Zefram holds enough offices as it is. I vote for Wooble as well. -root The initiating message lacks a description of the class of eligible voters. I contains a clear reference: Rule 2154. This kind of thing has been CFJ'd on before, IIRC. -- Taral [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please let me know

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: CFJ 1740a: assign Murphy, root, Wooble

2007-09-22 Thread Taral
On 9/21/07, Roger Hicks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hmmmaybe Chokey wasn't such a bad sentence after all Ha. -- Eris [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please let me know if there's any further trouble I can give you. -- Unknown

Re: BUS: Re: DIS: Re: OFF: CFJ 1745a: assign comex, Goddess Eris, root

2007-09-22 Thread Taral
On 9/22/07, comex [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thursday 20 September 2007, Ian Kelly wrote: How about REMAND? I consent to that as well. I would prefer reassign :) Why? -- Taral [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please let me know if there's any further trouble I can give you. -- Unknown

DIS: Re: OFF: CFJ 1740a: result OVERRULE to APOLOGY

2007-09-23 Thread Taral
On 9/23/07, Zefram [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Disposition:applicable, OVERRULE to APOLOGY with prescribed words 'espalier', 'conjunctive', 'stoat', 'ovation',

DIS: Re: BUS: Installation of AFO as Assessor

2007-09-23 Thread Taral
On 9/23/07, Ed Murphy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: SUPPORT: BobTHJ, comex, pikhq, Levi OBJECT: Eris *sniff* I love the smell of scams in the morning. -- Eris [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please let me know if there's any further trouble I can give you. -- Unknown

Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [Assessor] Voting Limits and Credits Report

2007-09-24 Thread Taral
wasn't (the ASAP timer didn't start ticking until your judgement on culpability was delivered). My judgement on culpability was late? I though I had to wait out the pre-judgement period. -- Taral [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please let me know if there's any further trouble I can give you. -- Unknown

Re: BUS: Re: DIS: Re: OFF: CFJ 1745a: assign comex, Goddess Eris, root

2007-09-26 Thread Taral
On 9/22/07, Taral [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 9/22/07, comex [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I would prefer reassign :) Why? We are running out of time. comex, can you please articulate your reasons for preferring REASSIGN over REMAND? I prefer REMAND unless there's something wrong

DIS: Re: BUS: Proto: Caveat suffragor

2007-09-26 Thread Taral
On 9/26/07, Ed Murphy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: b) Any other votes are unprotected. The vote collector CAN invalidate or change an unprotected vote by announcement when e resolves the decision. SCAM SCAM SCAM? -- Taral [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please let me know

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Proto: Caveat suffragor

2007-09-27 Thread Taral
reading my email backwards or something. Unfortunately, gmail does this too. It happens to any mail reader that relies on subject lines instead of In-Reply-To/References headers. -- Taral [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please let me know if there's any further trouble I can give you. -- Unknown

DIS: Re: OFF: judicial status

2007-09-30 Thread Taral
On 9/30/07, Zefram [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 1754 open Goddess Eris I did this. -- Taral [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please let me know if there's any further trouble I can give you. -- Unknown

Re: DIS: Re: OFF: CFJs 1750-1751: recuse, assign Goddess Eris

2007-10-03 Thread Taral
to submit pseudo-judgements. I'll send you the blue if you do. -- Taral [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please let me know if there's any further trouble I can give you. -- Unknown

DIS: Re: OFF: CFJ 1735: notify Goddess Eris

2007-10-03 Thread Taral
On 10/3/07, Zefram [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: H. Goddess Eris, you are hereby informed of CFJ 1735, a criminal case in which you are the defendant, and invited to rebut the argument for your guilt. Isn't this dead yet? -- Taral [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please let me know if there's any further

DIS: Re: BUS: Nominations

2007-10-03 Thread Taral
On 9/17/07, Taral [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I announce the initiation of an Agoran decision for the position of Scorekeepor as per Rule 2154. The options are Wooble and Zefram. You know what's funny? There's no requirement to resolve. -- Taral [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please let me know if there's

Re: BUS: Re: DIS: Re: OFF: CFJ 1735: notify Goddess Eris

2007-10-03 Thread Taral
On 10/3/07, Zefram [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Taral wrote: Fine. I close the pre-trial period of CFJ 1735. What, no defence? I don't believe the State has made its case. :) -- Taral [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please let me know if there's any further trouble I can give you. -- Unknown

Re: BUS: Re: DIS: Re: OFF: CFJ 1767: result FALSE

2007-10-22 Thread Taral
Bravo! On 10/22/07, Zefram [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: comex wrote: Perhaps not, but having more Patent Titles can never be a bad thing. I hereby submit the following proposal titled famous last words: {{{ Award comex the patent title Sorceror's Apprentice. }}} -zefram -- Taral

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: judicial status

2007-10-22 Thread Taral
On 10/22/07, comex [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I intend (without objection) to ratify the entirety of the quoted message: Why? -- Taral [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please let me know if there's any further trouble I can give you. -- Unknown

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Two Proposals

2007-10-22 Thread Taral
that to the people who continue the great tradition begun with the likes of APL and TECO. -- Taral [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please let me know if there's any further trouble I can give you. -- Unknown

Re: DIS: Re: OFF: CFJ 1745a: recuse, assign Goddess Eris, pikhq, root

2007-10-22 Thread Taral
On 10/22/07, Ian Kelly [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think it's reasonable to consider proposals that only change the game state and don't modify any rules. Do you disagree? It sounds a bit capricious. What justification do we have for only considering a subset of possible proposals? -- Taral

Re: DIS: Re: OFF: CFJ 1745a: recuse, assign Goddess Eris, pikhq, root

2007-10-22 Thread Taral
why I suggested simply overruling with IRRELEVANT this time around. Doh! Sorry, this thread and the other thread were indeed for the same appeal. -- Taral [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please let me know if there's any further trouble I can give you. -- Unknown

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: promoting the heraldic

2007-10-29 Thread Taral
On 10/29/07, Pikhq [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: すいません。私たちは英語で話せないんだ。 And can't spell your Japanese, either. :D -- Taral [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please let me know if there's any further trouble I can give you. -- Unknown

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: CFJs 1756-1757: recuse, assign Goddess Eris

2007-10-31 Thread Taral
On 10/31/07, Roger Hicks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What about multiple inheritance? That would be multiple superclasses. -- Taral [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please let me know if there's any further trouble I can give you. -- Unknown

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: CFJs 1756-1757: recuse, assign Goddess Eris

2007-10-31 Thread Taral
On 10/31/07, Ian Kelly [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 10/30/07, Taral [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Additionally, in programming, objects belong to only one subclass. I find, therefore, that an individual case can only belong to one subclass. http://citeseer.ist.psu.edu/82412.html I was speaking

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: CFJs 1756-1757: recuse, assign Goddess Eris

2007-10-31 Thread Taral
On 10/31/07, Ian Kelly [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As, I think, is analogy to OOP to begin with. The term was used without definition. I drew parallels to existing usage of subclass. :P -- Taral [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please let me know if there's any further trouble I can give you. -- Unknown

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