Re: [Attn: G.] Re: Contract charities (was Re: DIS: How and Whether to Change Patch Certification)
On 6/25/2020 11:33 AM, James Cook via agora-discussion wrote: > On Thu, 25 Jun 2020 at 17:03, Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion > wrote: >> On 6/25/2020 9:33 AM, James Cook via agora-discussion wrote: >>> On Thu, 25 Jun 2020 at 14:00, Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion >>> wrote: On 6/24/2020 8:47 PM, James Cook via agora-discussion wrote: > Bump. Here's an updated text; all I did was remove the once-per-month > restriction. G., what do you think about submitting this before nch's > and R. Lee's possible victory? I'm happy to pend it (assuming > DracoLotto worked as intended). I'm 99% sure the victory will either succeed or fail before this can be voted on (quite possibly before it's distributed) so I don't see an issue there? -G. >>> >>> My concern is that our Pendants will disappear. Just trying to save on >>> the pending cost. >> >> Oh - you mean "does this count as tweaking the game too soon" in general, >> because you might rush to pend? I might leave that to nch this seems like >> a nice feature not a big tweak but others may vary... >> >> -G. > > I don't think that's what I meant either... > > I think it's a nice and simple proposal. I would submit and pend it > myself now, but I don't want to steal authorship from you. I'm > suggesting there's a (very mild) urgency because we have some Pendants > that could disappear at any moment, and I don't want them to go to > waste. oh, duh. everyone's been going back and forth so much with ideas and drafts I wasn't thinking of ownership at all. go for it!
Re: [Attn: G.] Re: Contract charities (was Re: DIS: How and Whether to Change Patch Certification)
On Thu, 25 Jun 2020 at 17:03, Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion wrote: > On 6/25/2020 9:33 AM, James Cook via agora-discussion wrote: > > On Thu, 25 Jun 2020 at 14:00, Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion > > wrote: > >> On 6/24/2020 8:47 PM, James Cook via agora-discussion wrote: > >>> Bump. Here's an updated text; all I did was remove the once-per-month > >>> restriction. G., what do you think about submitting this before nch's > >>> and R. Lee's possible victory? I'm happy to pend it (assuming > >>> DracoLotto worked as intended). > >> > >> I'm 99% sure the victory will either succeed or fail before this can be > >> voted on (quite possibly before it's distributed) so I don't see an issue > >> there? > >> > >> -G. > > > > My concern is that our Pendants will disappear. Just trying to save on > > the pending cost. > > Oh - you mean "does this count as tweaking the game too soon" in general, > because you might rush to pend? I might leave that to nch this seems like > a nice feature not a big tweak but others may vary... > > -G. I don't think that's what I meant either... I think it's a nice and simple proposal. I would submit and pend it myself now, but I don't want to steal authorship from you. I'm suggesting there's a (very mild) urgency because we have some Pendants that could disappear at any moment, and I don't want them to go to waste. - Falsifian
Re: [Attn: G.] Re: Contract charities (was Re: DIS: How and Whether to Change Patch Certification)
On 6/25/2020 9:33 AM, James Cook via agora-discussion wrote: > On Thu, 25 Jun 2020 at 14:00, Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion > wrote: >> On 6/24/2020 8:47 PM, James Cook via agora-discussion wrote: >>> Bump. Here's an updated text; all I did was remove the once-per-month >>> restriction. G., what do you think about submitting this before nch's >>> and R. Lee's possible victory? I'm happy to pend it (assuming >>> DracoLotto worked as intended). >> >> I'm 99% sure the victory will either succeed or fail before this can be >> voted on (quite possibly before it's distributed) so I don't see an issue >> there? >> >> -G. > > My concern is that our Pendants will disappear. Just trying to save on > the pending cost. Oh - you mean "does this count as tweaking the game too soon" in general, because you might rush to pend? I might leave that to nch this seems like a nice feature not a big tweak but others may vary... -G.
Re: [Attn: G.] Re: Contract charities (was Re: DIS: How and Whether to Change Patch Certification)
On Thu, 25 Jun 2020 at 14:00, Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion wrote: > On 6/24/2020 8:47 PM, James Cook via agora-discussion wrote: > > Bump. Here's an updated text; all I did was remove the once-per-month > > restriction. G., what do you think about submitting this before nch's > > and R. Lee's possible victory? I'm happy to pend it (assuming > > DracoLotto worked as intended). > > I'm 99% sure the victory will either succeed or fail before this can be > voted on (quite possibly before it's distributed) so I don't see an issue > there? > > -G. My concern is that our Pendants will disappear. Just trying to save on the pending cost. - Falsifian
Re: [Attn: G.] Re: Contract charities (was Re: DIS: How and Whether to Change Patch Certification)
On 6/24/2020 8:47 PM, James Cook via agora-discussion wrote: > Bump. Here's an updated text; all I did was remove the once-per-month > restriction. G., what do you think about submitting this before nch's > and R. Lee's possible victory? I'm happy to pend it (assuming > DracoLotto worked as intended). I'm 99% sure the victory will either succeed or fail before this can be voted on (quite possibly before it's distributed) so I don't see an issue there? -G.
[Attn: G.] Re: Contract charities (was Re: DIS: How and Whether to Change Patch Certification)
On Sat, 20 Jun 2020 at 19:30, James Cook wrote: > > The idea of a contract charity (which we've done before) is intriguing and > > this makes me want to go for the strongest standard (w/o objection). > > I was just in the middle of drafting a Reportor contract. Here's a > copy of your proto for charity contracts from last month: > > > Proto > > - > > Enact the following rule, Charities: > > > > Donation Level is a natural switch for contracts, tracked by the > > Notary, with a default of 0 and a maximum of 25. A contract with > > nonzero donation level is called a Charity. > > > > The Notary CAN flip a contract's donation level to a non-default > > value with 3 Agoran consent, provided e has not done so for any > > contract in the current Agoran month. This SHOULD only be done if > > the contract's provisions ensure that its funds will be used solely > > for the betterment of Agora. Any player CAN flip a contract's > > donation level to 0 with Agoran consent. > > > > Whenever a payday occurs, half of each charity's coin holdings > > (rounded down) are destroyed, and then each charity earns a > > number of coins equal to its donation level. > > > > [the 'half are destroyed' bit is because we don't want charities to build > > up big bankrolls if they don't give things away]. > > DIS thread "simple way to give out funds". A few thoughts there > already, e.g. removing the one-per-month limit. > > - Falsifian Bump. Here's an updated text; all I did was remove the once-per-month restriction. G., what do you think about submitting this before nch's and R. Lee's possible victory? I'm happy to pend it (assuming DracoLotto worked as intended). Enact the following rule, Charities: Donation Level is a natural switch for contracts, tracked by the Notary, with a default of 0 and a maximum of 25. A contract with nonzero donation level is called a Charity. The Notary CAN flip a contract's donation level to a non-default value with 3 Agoran consent. This SHOULD only be done if the contract's provisions ensure that its funds will be used solely for the betterment of Agora. Any player CAN flip a contract's donation level to 0 with Agoran consent. Whenever a payday occurs, half of each charity's coin holdings (rounded down) are destroyed, and then each charity earns a number of coins equal to its donation level. - Falsifian
