Re: DIS: Re: BUS: AAA - Mill me please

2008-06-18 Thread Chester Mealer
E is only allowed to create or destroy land according to the contract. (I'm
assuming)

The contract states in order to create the land e must revoke 3 points.

Ergo, there is an argument to be made that announcing the creation of the
land, is also a de jure announcement that e has revoked the points.

The later announcement that the points have been revoked might not be false
depending on if an on or about clause was present and if the about could
extend backwards to the point of the announcing the land had been created.
In this case it would be the same as making the two announcements via
separate emails and having the second arrive first.

However, I'm not the judge on the CFJ (yet).

-- 
Chester Mealer
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Re: DIS: Re: BUS: AAA - Mill me please

2008-06-18 Thread Ian Kelly
On Wed, Jun 18, 2008 at 7:19 AM, Chester Mealer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 E is only allowed to create or destroy land according to the contract. (I'm
 assuming)

Per Rule 2166/5:

  An asset whose backing document is not a rule generally CAN be
  created by its recordkeepor by announcement, subject to
  modification by its backing document.

The contract does not purport to limit the circumstances under which
the SoA CAN create land.

 The contract states in order to create the land e must revoke 3 points.

No, it just requires em to revoke 3 points and then create a land.  It
doesn't say that e can't create another land first.

-root


DIS: RE: BUS: AAA - Mill me please

2008-06-17 Thread Alexander Smith
BobTHJ wrote:
 Oops...I also revoke 3 points from Quazie.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but IIRC Quazie doesn't have 3 points.
(It's hard to see how e could have gained them in such a short
time.) If Quazie did get the land e wanted, and didn't have the
points, I'm off to buy several thousand lands for my nonexistent
points.
-- 
ais523
winmail.dat

Re: DIS: RE: BUS: AAA - Mill me please

2008-06-17 Thread Roger Hicks
On Tue, Jun 17, 2008 at 1:06 PM, Alexander Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 BobTHJ wrote:
 Oops...I also revoke 3 points from Quazie.
 Correct me if I'm wrong, but IIRC Quazie doesn't have 3 points.
 (It's hard to see how e could have gained them in such a short
 time.) If Quazie did get the land e wanted, and didn't have the
 points, I'm off to buy several thousand lands for my nonexistent
 points.

e was recently awarded 4 points for participation in the Fantasy Rules Contest.

BobTHJ


DIS: Re: BUS: AAA - Mill me please

2008-06-17 Thread Ian Kelly
On Tue, Jun 17, 2008 at 3:36 PM, Quazie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I CFJ on the following statements:
 1 - BobTHJ successfully created land #98 in Quazie's possession On or
 about Tue, Jun 17, 2008 at 12:59 PM.

 BobTHJ has attempted to first create a land in my possession and then
 revoke 3 points from me.  The AAA contract states:
 12. Once per week, a Farmer may attempt to purchase a new Land by
 announcing the type of Land e wishes to purchase. As soon as possible
 after such an announcement, if it is permitted for em to do so, the
 SoA shall revoke 3 Points from that Farmer and then create a Land of
 the specified type in that Farmer's possession.

 As such BobTHJ has performed the creation and revoking actions out of
 order.  The question is, what has really happened?

I think the point revocation clearly worked, since it satisfied the
requirements of the contract.  The SoA is generally able to create
assets defined by the contract, so I would guess that worked as well.
However, since e performed the two actions out of order, I would think
that e is still required to create a Land in your possession.

-root