Re: DIS: Re: BUS: I have no idea what I'm doing
You already did! <_<
On 2017-11-23 13:02, VJ Rada wrote:
Speaking of trust tokens, I give corona and telnaior one.
On Thu, Nov 23, 2017 at 1:00 PM, Madeline wrote:
One idea I had is a list of "goals" that could be maintained - goals could
be added through proposal, and when someone achieved a goal it was removed
from the list and that player won the game. That'd allow for things like how
trust tokens say the "first" player to do whatever wins. Perhaps it could
also be expanded to have goals have rules tied to them that get repealed
with the goal's removal?
On 2017-11-23 12:50, Alex Smith wrote:
On Thu, 2017-11-23 at 12:33 +1100, Madeline wrote:
Potential expansion: They name an English letter along with the attempt,
and whoever resolves it gets a token of that letter. Someone who manages
to collect a token of every letter can receive a Black Ribbon.
Alternatively this may work better as a contract, but then I have no
idea what kind of reward to offer.
We should bring back Contests. They were always one of the simplest
ways to try out interesting win conditions.
I'd try something like this, to get started:
Proto: Contests (AI 1)
Create a new rule, "Contests and Scoring", with Power 1 and the
following text:
{{{
The Scorekeepor is an office. Points are a currency, tracked by the
Scorekeepor. Points can be owned only by persons and contracts.
Whenever a person owns 100 or more points, the Scorekeepor CAN by
announcement, and SHALL in a timely manner, destroy all points in the
possession of each person who has 100 or more points, and half the
points in the possession of each other person. When points are
destroyed in this manner, each person who had 100 or more points
immediately before the destruction wins the game.
A Contest is a type of contract. The Scorekeepor's weekly report
includes a list of all Contests. A contract is never a Contest unless
it has been made into a Contest by a rules-defined process. As long as
at least one contest exists, the Scorekeepor SHALL once each week, and
CAN once per week by announcement, create a number of points in the
possession of each Contest equal to the number of parties that contract
has.
A player CAN cause a contract to be come a Contest without 3
objections. Players SHOULD NOT intend to make a contract into a
Contest, and SHOULD object to such intents, if the contract does not
give each player a fair opportunity to earn its points, or if the
contract has insufficient protections against being amended so that it
no longer gives each player a fair opportunity to earn its points.
}}}
Agora's gone back and forth on how freely tradeable points are in the
past, but I think it's probably best to start with them as liquid so
that they can help to form the basis of an economy alongside Shinies.
Re: DIS: Re: BUS: I have no idea what I'm doing
One idea I had is a list of "goals" that could be maintained - goals
could be added through proposal, and when someone achieved a goal it was
removed from the list and that player won the game. That'd allow for
things like how trust tokens say the "first" player to do whatever wins.
Perhaps it could also be expanded to have goals have rules tied to them
that get repealed with the goal's removal?
On 2017-11-23 12:50, Alex Smith wrote:
On Thu, 2017-11-23 at 12:33 +1100, Madeline wrote:
Potential expansion: They name an English letter along with the attempt,
and whoever resolves it gets a token of that letter. Someone who manages
to collect a token of every letter can receive a Black Ribbon.
Alternatively this may work better as a contract, but then I have no
idea what kind of reward to offer.
We should bring back Contests. They were always one of the simplest
ways to try out interesting win conditions.
I'd try something like this, to get started:
Proto: Contests (AI 1)
Create a new rule, "Contests and Scoring", with Power 1 and the
following text:
{{{
The Scorekeepor is an office. Points are a currency, tracked by the
Scorekeepor. Points can be owned only by persons and contracts.
Whenever a person owns 100 or more points, the Scorekeepor CAN by
announcement, and SHALL in a timely manner, destroy all points in the
possession of each person who has 100 or more points, and half the
points in the possession of each other person. When points are
destroyed in this manner, each person who had 100 or more points
immediately before the destruction wins the game.
A Contest is a type of contract. The Scorekeepor's weekly report
includes a list of all Contests. A contract is never a Contest unless
it has been made into a Contest by a rules-defined process. As long as
at least one contest exists, the Scorekeepor SHALL once each week, and
CAN once per week by announcement, create a number of points in the
possession of each Contest equal to the number of parties that contract
has.
A player CAN cause a contract to be come a Contest without 3
objections. Players SHOULD NOT intend to make a contract into a
Contest, and SHOULD object to such intents, if the contract does not
give each player a fair opportunity to earn its points, or if the
contract has insufficient protections against being amended so that it
no longer gives each player a fair opportunity to earn its points.
}}}
Agora's gone back and forth on how freely tradeable points are in the
past, but I think it's probably best to start with them as liquid so
that they can help to form the basis of an economy alongside Shinies.
Re: DIS: Re: BUS: I have no idea what I'm doing
As do I.
On 11/22/2017 8:51 PM, Publius Scribonius Scholasticus wrote:
I support this idea.
Publius Scribonius Scholasticus
p.scribonius.scholasti...@gmail.com
On Nov 22, 2017, at 8:50 PM, Alex Smith wrote:
On Thu, 2017-11-23 at 12:33 +1100, Madeline wrote:
Potential expansion: They name an English letter along with the attempt,
and whoever resolves it gets a token of that letter. Someone who manages
to collect a token of every letter can receive a Black Ribbon.
Alternatively this may work better as a contract, but then I have no
idea what kind of reward to offer.
We should bring back Contests. They were always one of the simplest
ways to try out interesting win conditions.
I'd try something like this, to get started:
Proto: Contests (AI 1)
Create a new rule, "Contests and Scoring", with Power 1 and the
following text:
{{{
The Scorekeepor is an office. Points are a currency, tracked by the
Scorekeepor. Points can be owned only by persons and contracts.
Whenever a person owns 100 or more points, the Scorekeepor CAN by
announcement, and SHALL in a timely manner, destroy all points in the
possession of each person who has 100 or more points, and half the
points in the possession of each other person. When points are
destroyed in this manner, each person who had 100 or more points
immediately before the destruction wins the game.
A Contest is a type of contract. The Scorekeepor's weekly report
includes a list of all Contests. A contract is never a Contest unless
it has been made into a Contest by a rules-defined process. As long as
at least one contest exists, the Scorekeepor SHALL once each week, and
CAN once per week by announcement, create a number of points in the
possession of each Contest equal to the number of parties that contract
has.
A player CAN cause a contract to be come a Contest without 3
objections. Players SHOULD NOT intend to make a contract into a
Contest, and SHOULD object to such intents, if the contract does not
give each player a fair opportunity to earn its points, or if the
contract has insufficient protections against being amended so that it
no longer gives each player a fair opportunity to earn its points.
}}}
Agora's gone back and forth on how freely tradeable points are in the
past, but I think it's probably best to start with them as liquid so
that they can help to form the basis of an economy alongside Shinies.
--
ais523
Re: DIS: Re: BUS: I have no idea what I'm doing
I support this idea.
Publius Scribonius Scholasticus
p.scribonius.scholasti...@gmail.com
> On Nov 22, 2017, at 8:50 PM, Alex Smith wrote:
>
> On Thu, 2017-11-23 at 12:33 +1100, Madeline wrote:
>> Potential expansion: They name an English letter along with the attempt,
>> and whoever resolves it gets a token of that letter. Someone who manages
>> to collect a token of every letter can receive a Black Ribbon.
>> Alternatively this may work better as a contract, but then I have no
>> idea what kind of reward to offer.
>
> We should bring back Contests. They were always one of the simplest
> ways to try out interesting win conditions.
>
> I'd try something like this, to get started:
>
> Proto: Contests (AI 1)
>
> Create a new rule, "Contests and Scoring", with Power 1 and the
> following text:
> {{{
> The Scorekeepor is an office. Points are a currency, tracked by the
> Scorekeepor. Points can be owned only by persons and contracts.
>
> Whenever a person owns 100 or more points, the Scorekeepor CAN by
> announcement, and SHALL in a timely manner, destroy all points in the
> possession of each person who has 100 or more points, and half the
> points in the possession of each other person. When points are
> destroyed in this manner, each person who had 100 or more points
> immediately before the destruction wins the game.
>
> A Contest is a type of contract. The Scorekeepor's weekly report
> includes a list of all Contests. A contract is never a Contest unless
> it has been made into a Contest by a rules-defined process. As long as
> at least one contest exists, the Scorekeepor SHALL once each week, and
> CAN once per week by announcement, create a number of points in the
> possession of each Contest equal to the number of parties that contract
> has.
>
> A player CAN cause a contract to be come a Contest without 3
> objections. Players SHOULD NOT intend to make a contract into a
> Contest, and SHOULD object to such intents, if the contract does not
> give each player a fair opportunity to earn its points, or if the
> contract has insufficient protections against being amended so that it
> no longer gives each player a fair opportunity to earn its points.
> }}}
>
>
> Agora's gone back and forth on how freely tradeable points are in the
> past, but I think it's probably best to start with them as liquid so
> that they can help to form the basis of an economy alongside Shinies.
>
> --
> ais523
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Re: DIS: Re: BUS: I have no idea what I'm doing
On Thu, 2017-11-23 at 12:33 +1100, Madeline wrote:
> Potential expansion: They name an English letter along with the attempt,
> and whoever resolves it gets a token of that letter. Someone who manages
> to collect a token of every letter can receive a Black Ribbon.
> Alternatively this may work better as a contract, but then I have no
> idea what kind of reward to offer.
We should bring back Contests. They were always one of the simplest
ways to try out interesting win conditions.
I'd try something like this, to get started:
Proto: Contests (AI 1)
Create a new rule, "Contests and Scoring", with Power 1 and the
following text:
{{{
The Scorekeepor is an office. Points are a currency, tracked by the
Scorekeepor. Points can be owned only by persons and contracts.
Whenever a person owns 100 or more points, the Scorekeepor CAN by
announcement, and SHALL in a timely manner, destroy all points in the
possession of each person who has 100 or more points, and half the
points in the possession of each other person. When points are
destroyed in this manner, each person who had 100 or more points
immediately before the destruction wins the game.
A Contest is a type of contract. The Scorekeepor's weekly report
includes a list of all Contests. A contract is never a Contest unless
it has been made into a Contest by a rules-defined process. As long as
at least one contest exists, the Scorekeepor SHALL once each week, and
CAN once per week by announcement, create a number of points in the
possession of each Contest equal to the number of parties that contract
has.
A player CAN cause a contract to be come a Contest without 3
objections. Players SHOULD NOT intend to make a contract into a
Contest, and SHOULD object to such intents, if the contract does not
give each player a fair opportunity to earn its points, or if the
contract has insufficient protections against being amended so that it
no longer gives each player a fair opportunity to earn its points.
}}}
Agora's gone back and forth on how freely tradeable points are in the
past, but I think it's probably best to start with them as liquid so
that they can help to form the basis of an economy alongside Shinies.
--
ais523
Re: DIS: Re: BUS: I have no idea what I'm doing
you just want australians to be able to easily do this while everyone else is asleep, don't you? nice try. On Thu, Nov 23, 2017 at 12:33 PM, Madeline wrote: > Potential expansion: They name an English letter along with the attempt, and > whoever resolves it gets a token of that letter. Someone who manages to > collect a token of every letter can receive a Black Ribbon. > Alternatively this may work better as a contract, but then I have no idea > what kind of reward to offer. > > > > On 2017-11-23 12:28, Publius Scribonius Scholasticus wrote: >> >> I like this day. >> >> Publius Scribonius Scholasticus >> p.scribonius.scholasti...@gmail.com >> >> >> >>> On Nov 22, 2017, at 8:24 PM, Madeline wrote: >>> >>> On 2017-11-23 12:17, ATMunn wrote: It seems like Agora is in a scammy mood. I hereby declare that this message is a scam. >>> >>> Proposal draft: >>> >>> Any player can Attempt to Scam by announcement. Only one Attempt to Scam >>> may be ongoing at a time. >>> >>> After an Attempt to Scam, any player can Resolve the Scam by >>> announcement, but not in a timely fashion. >>> >>> If the player who Resolves the Scam is the same player who Attempted to >>> Scam, that player earns a Scam Token. >>> >>> Scam Tokens may be traded in for some reward (I'm thinking assigning >>> emself as the judge of any CFJ, though if we want to do this seriously >>> perhaps something marginally less ridiculous) >>> > -- >From V.J. Rada
Re: DIS: Re: BUS: I have no idea what I'm doing
Potential expansion: They name an English letter along with the attempt, and whoever resolves it gets a token of that letter. Someone who manages to collect a token of every letter can receive a Black Ribbon. Alternatively this may work better as a contract, but then I have no idea what kind of reward to offer. On 2017-11-23 12:28, Publius Scribonius Scholasticus wrote: I like this day. Publius Scribonius Scholasticus p.scribonius.scholasti...@gmail.com On Nov 22, 2017, at 8:24 PM, Madeline wrote: On 2017-11-23 12:17, ATMunn wrote: It seems like Agora is in a scammy mood. I hereby declare that this message is a scam. Proposal draft: Any player can Attempt to Scam by announcement. Only one Attempt to Scam may be ongoing at a time. After an Attempt to Scam, any player can Resolve the Scam by announcement, but not in a timely fashion. If the player who Resolves the Scam is the same player who Attempted to Scam, that player earns a Scam Token. Scam Tokens may be traded in for some reward (I'm thinking assigning emself as the judge of any CFJ, though if we want to do this seriously perhaps something marginally less ridiculous)
Re: DIS: Re: BUS: I have no idea what I'm doing
On Thu, 2017-11-23 at 12:24 +1100, Madeline wrote: > Any player can Attempt to Scam by announcement. Only one Attempt to > Scam may be ongoing at a time. > > After an Attempt to Scam, any player can Resolve the Scam by > announcement, but not in a timely fashion. > > If the player who Resolves the Scam is the same player who Attempted > to Scam, that player earns a Scam Token. Is this meant to simply be a never-ending chain of timing scam opportunities? I'd argue that this is probably a bad idea. I've ended up semi-ruining my life before now by staying up until odd hours to be able to pull off a timing scam. (I remember one time in BlogNomic where, after pulling off or at least attempting a timing scam, I was sprinting to be able to catch the last bus home. Luckily, I got there in time.) Timing scams can be fun once in a while, but they're one of the few mechanics that can cause Real Life trouble if you overdo them. -- ais523
Re: DIS: Re: BUS: I have no idea what I'm doing
I like this day. Publius Scribonius Scholasticus p.scribonius.scholasti...@gmail.com > On Nov 22, 2017, at 8:24 PM, Madeline wrote: > > On 2017-11-23 12:17, ATMunn wrote: >> It seems like Agora is in a scammy mood. >> >> I hereby declare that this message is a scam. > > Proposal draft: > > Any player can Attempt to Scam by announcement. Only one Attempt to Scam may > be ongoing at a time. > > After an Attempt to Scam, any player can Resolve the Scam by announcement, > but not in a timely fashion. > > If the player who Resolves the Scam is the same player who Attempted to Scam, > that player earns a Scam Token. > > Scam Tokens may be traded in for some reward (I'm thinking assigning emself > as the judge of any CFJ, though if we want to do this seriously perhaps > something marginally less ridiculous) > signature.asc Description: Message signed with OpenPGP
DIS: Re: BUS: I have no idea what I'm doing
On 2017-11-23 12:17, ATMunn wrote: It seems like Agora is in a scammy mood. I hereby declare that this message is a scam. Proposal draft: Any player can Attempt to Scam by announcement. Only one Attempt to Scam may be ongoing at a time. After an Attempt to Scam, any player can Resolve the Scam by announcement, but not in a timely fashion. If the player who Resolves the Scam is the same player who Attempted to Scam, that player earns a Scam Token. Scam Tokens may be traded in for some reward (I'm thinking assigning emself as the judge of any CFJ, though if we want to do this seriously perhaps something marginally less ridiculous)
