Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Registrar] Monthly deregistration intents and zombifications

2018-04-11 Thread Kerim Aydin
A finger-pointing should be shenanigans if it happens 14 days after the breach. However, the way it's written, it's the final fine that's ineffective if it's levied after 14 days (R2531). That should be fixed I think - given that the referee has a week to respond to a finger-pointing, e can

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Registrar] Monthly deregistration intents and zombifications

2018-04-11 Thread Ned Strange
Also (as the person who made this paragraph because I couldn't be assed to format bullet points), we really need to fix that massive sentence with a bracketed list within the first clause regarding when cards may be imposed. On Wed, Apr 11, 2018 at 10:08 PM, Ned Strange

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Registrar] Monthly deregistration intents and zombifications

2018-04-11 Thread Ned Strange
So there's actually two limitations periods. The seven-day period for CHoJ and the fourteen-day one for overall response and Summary Judgement. The seven-day period should probably be tolled by pending CFJ, but I'm not sure about tolling the fortnight period. I suppose the fortnight period should

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Registrar] Monthly deregistration intents and zombifications

2018-04-11 Thread Ned Strange
That's not needed. The rules say punishment CAN only be imposed if a rule is broken so the Ref can simply impose punishment and then if the CFJ rules otherwise, the punishment never happened in the first place. Or not, if he so chooses. The Ref is entitled to rule finger-pointing as Shenanigans

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Registrar] Monthly deregistration intents and zombifications

2018-04-11 Thread Kerim Aydin
There is a CFJ pending as to whether this is shenanigans or not. Proto: Add to the finger-pointing rule, a third option for the referee: Impose justice, declare shenanigans, OR CFJ/point to an existing CFJ. On Wed, 11 Apr 2018, Ned Strange wrote: > I point my finger at G. for failing to

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Registrar] Monthly deregistration intents and zombifications

2018-04-02 Thread Aris Merchant
Actually, this feels a bit weird, but I don't see why it's unethical so... I'll pay whoever calls it a coin for the trouble. I'd also like to point out that AFAICT, CFJs have been literally free (as well as unpaid) since the adoption of P8014. Justification: The game has a legitimate interest in

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Registrar] Monthly deregistration intents and zombifications

2018-04-01 Thread Aris Merchant
The issue really calls for interpretation. I would call the CFJ myself, but I'm far too intrested in judging it. :) I think I have some ideas for a ruling which would clarify the issue, set out some new interesting precedent, and generally not make anyone too grouchy. If anyone would care to use

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Registrar] Monthly deregistration intents and zombifications

2018-04-01 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Mon, 2 Apr 2018, Ørjan Johansen wrote: > On Sun, 1 Apr 2018, Kerim Aydin wrote: > > > I object to every one of the below intents. > > I'm wondering what is needed for you to be considered to have fulfilled the > monthly requirement and whether your objections violate it. > >In the

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Registrar] Monthly deregistration intents and zombifications

2018-04-01 Thread Aris Merchant
I favor the CFJ, if this gets that far. -Aris On Sun, Apr 1, 2018 at 5:56 PM Gaelan Steele wrote: > Wait, what does “attempt” mean? Can the Registrar just say “I deregister > each of these players by announcement”? It doesn’t work, but it’s arguably > an intent. > > Gaelan >

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Registrar] Monthly deregistration intents and zombifications

2018-04-01 Thread Gaelan Steele
Wait, what does “attempt” mean? Can the Registrar just say “I deregister each of these players by announcement”? It doesn’t work, but it’s arguably an intent. Gaelan > On Apr 1, 2018, at 5:42 PM, Ørjan Johansen wrote: > > On Sun, 1 Apr 2018, Kerim Aydin wrote: > >> I

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Registrar] Monthly deregistration intents and zombifications

2018-04-01 Thread Ørjan Johansen
On Sun, 1 Apr 2018, Kerim Aydin wrote: I object to every one of the below intents. I'm wondering what is needed for you to be considered to have fulfilled the monthly requirement and whether your objections violate it. In the first Eastman week of every month the Registrar SHALL