Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Proposals 7965-7972

2017-11-18 Thread Ørjan Johansen

Um, nope, still discussion.

Greetings,
Ørjan.

On Thu, 16 Nov 2017, VJ Rada wrote:


thanks telnaior. pf.

On Mon, Nov 13, 2017 at 10:49 AM, VJ Rada  wrote:


I vote

ID Author(s)  AI   TitlePender  Pend
fee

---
7965*  Trigon 3.0  One pronoun fix  Trigon  1 AP
FOR: Obviously nobody could conceivably object to this
7966*  ATMunn 1.0  But I already live there!o   1 AP
AGAINST: people associate Green Cards with the United States, not
Brazil. I'm sure a majority of us are American (although some are
not), but this just makes it a strange joke that nobody will get
(admittedly, not an alient concept in this game)
7967*  V.J. Rada  1.0  Rhyming sux tbh  V.J. Rada   1 AP
FOR
7968*  Alexis, [3]2.0  Backed Out the Door  Alexis  OP
[1][2]
FOR (I promised Telnaior I would)
7969*  V.J. Rada, [4] 3.0  Obvious fix  V.J. Rada   2 sh.
FOR
7970*  V.J. Rada  2.0  Referee Minor FixV.J. Rada   2 sh.
FOR
7971*  V.J. Rada, [4] 3.0  Cleanup Time V.J. Rada   2 sh.
FOR (Remember your pledge, Alexis)
7972*  G. 2.0  Silly Tweaks G.  1 AP
FOR (hope it gets repealed)

On Mon, Nov 13, 2017 at 10:24 AM, Aris Merchant
 wrote:

I hereby distribute each listed proposal, initiating the Agoran
Decision of whether to adopt it, and removing it from the proposal
pool. For this decision, the vote collector is the Assessor, the
quorum is 7.0, the voting method is AI-majority, and the valid
options are FOR and AGAINST (PRESENT is also a valid vote, as
are conditional votes).

ID Author(s)  AI   TitlePender  Pend

fee



---

7965*  Trigon 3.0  One pronoun fix  Trigon  1 AP
7966*  ATMunn 1.0  But I already live there!o   1 AP
7967*  V.J. Rada  1.0  Rhyming sux tbh  V.J. Rada   1 AP
7968*  Alexis, [3]2.0  Backed Out the Door  Alexis  OP

[1][2]

7969*  V.J. Rada, [4] 3.0  Obvious fix  V.J. Rada   2 sh.
7970*  V.J. Rada  2.0  Referee Minor FixV.J. Rada   2 sh.
7971*  V.J. Rada, [4] 3.0  Cleanup Time V.J. Rada   2 sh.
7972*  G. 2.0  Silly Tweaks G.  1 AP

The proposal pool currently contains the following proposals:

ID   Author(s) AI   Title


---

pp1  Alexis1.7  A Most Ingenious Paradox
pp2  ATMunn, [4]   1.0  [5]


Legend: * : Proposal is pending.

[1] Official Proposal, inherently pending
[2] The official status of this proposal is disputed. If it is not

official,

it has been pended by Aris for 1 AP
[3] Telnaior, ais523, Aris, G.
[4] Alexis
[5] No title


A proposal may be pended for 1 AP, or for 1/20th the Floating Value
in shines (see the Treasuror's report).

The full text of the aforementioned proposals is included below.

//
ID: 7965
Title: One pronoun fix
Adoption index: 3.0
Author: Trigon
Co-authors:


Replace the word "his" in the second paragraph of Rule 2438 ("Ribbons")

with

"eir".

//
ID: 7966
Title: But I already live there
Adoption index: 1.0
Author: Trigon
Co-authors:


Amend rule 2474 "Green Cards" by replacing the text "the United States"

with

"Brazil".

//
ID: 7967
Title: Rhyming sux tbh
Adoption index: 1.0
Author: V.J. Rada
Co-authors:


Repeal rule 1650, "Silliness"
Repeal the rule called "Poetry Duel Challenge Writ

//
ID: 7968
Title: Backed Out the Door
Adoption index: 2.0
Author: Alexis
Co-authors: Telnaior, ais523, Aris, G.


Enact a new power-2 rule entitled "Political Parties", reading as
follows:

  There are 5 Parties, in order:

  - Platonic Isolationists
  - New Punchbowl Reformers
  - Costume Conservatives
  - Substance Use Liberals
  - Official Raving Monster Looney Party

  Politicians are entities; each Politician has a name and an
  associated Party. Politicians exist only as specified by the
  rules. Creating, altering, or destroying Politicians is secured.

  If there are ever fewer than 20 Politicians, then the Clork CAN
  and SHALL, by announcement, create a new Politician, specifying
  eir Party and name. The Party must be selected at random from:

  - If any Party has fewer than 3 Politicans, the Party or Parties
with the fewest.
  - Otherwise, the Parties with fewer than 5 Politicians.

Enact a new power-2 rule entitled "Clork", reading as follows:

  The 

Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Proposals 7965-7972

2017-11-15 Thread VJ Rada
thanks telnaior. pf.

On Mon, Nov 13, 2017 at 10:49 AM, VJ Rada  wrote:

> I vote
>
> ID Author(s)  AI   TitlePender  Pend
> fee
> 
> ---
> 7965*  Trigon 3.0  One pronoun fix  Trigon  1 AP
> FOR: Obviously nobody could conceivably object to this
> 7966*  ATMunn 1.0  But I already live there!o   1 AP
> AGAINST: people associate Green Cards with the United States, not
> Brazil. I'm sure a majority of us are American (although some are
> not), but this just makes it a strange joke that nobody will get
> (admittedly, not an alient concept in this game)
> 7967*  V.J. Rada  1.0  Rhyming sux tbh  V.J. Rada   1 AP
> FOR
> 7968*  Alexis, [3]2.0  Backed Out the Door  Alexis  OP
> [1][2]
> FOR (I promised Telnaior I would)
> 7969*  V.J. Rada, [4] 3.0  Obvious fix  V.J. Rada   2 sh.
> FOR
> 7970*  V.J. Rada  2.0  Referee Minor FixV.J. Rada   2 sh.
> FOR
> 7971*  V.J. Rada, [4] 3.0  Cleanup Time V.J. Rada   2 sh.
> FOR (Remember your pledge, Alexis)
> 7972*  G. 2.0  Silly Tweaks G.  1 AP
> FOR (hope it gets repealed)
>
> On Mon, Nov 13, 2017 at 10:24 AM, Aris Merchant
>  wrote:
> > I hereby distribute each listed proposal, initiating the Agoran
> > Decision of whether to adopt it, and removing it from the proposal
> > pool. For this decision, the vote collector is the Assessor, the
> > quorum is 7.0, the voting method is AI-majority, and the valid
> > options are FOR and AGAINST (PRESENT is also a valid vote, as
> > are conditional votes).
> >
> > ID Author(s)  AI   TitlePender  Pend
> fee
> > 
> ---
> > 7965*  Trigon 3.0  One pronoun fix  Trigon  1 AP
> > 7966*  ATMunn 1.0  But I already live there!o   1 AP
> > 7967*  V.J. Rada  1.0  Rhyming sux tbh  V.J. Rada   1 AP
> > 7968*  Alexis, [3]2.0  Backed Out the Door  Alexis  OP
> [1][2]
> > 7969*  V.J. Rada, [4] 3.0  Obvious fix  V.J. Rada   2 sh.
> > 7970*  V.J. Rada  2.0  Referee Minor FixV.J. Rada   2 sh.
> > 7971*  V.J. Rada, [4] 3.0  Cleanup Time V.J. Rada   2 sh.
> > 7972*  G. 2.0  Silly Tweaks G.  1 AP
> >
> > The proposal pool currently contains the following proposals:
> >
> > ID   Author(s) AI   Title
> > 
> ---
> > pp1  Alexis1.7  A Most Ingenious Paradox
> > pp2  ATMunn, [4]   1.0  [5]
> >
> >
> > Legend: * : Proposal is pending.
> >
> > [1] Official Proposal, inherently pending
> > [2] The official status of this proposal is disputed. If it is not
> official,
> > it has been pended by Aris for 1 AP
> > [3] Telnaior, ais523, Aris, G.
> > [4] Alexis
> > [5] No title
> >
> >
> > A proposal may be pended for 1 AP, or for 1/20th the Floating Value
> > in shines (see the Treasuror's report).
> >
> > The full text of the aforementioned proposals is included below.
> >
> > //
> > ID: 7965
> > Title: One pronoun fix
> > Adoption index: 3.0
> > Author: Trigon
> > Co-authors:
> >
> >
> > Replace the word "his" in the second paragraph of Rule 2438 ("Ribbons")
> with
> > "eir".
> >
> > //
> > ID: 7966
> > Title: But I already live there
> > Adoption index: 1.0
> > Author: Trigon
> > Co-authors:
> >
> >
> > Amend rule 2474 "Green Cards" by replacing the text "the United States"
> with
> > "Brazil".
> >
> > //
> > ID: 7967
> > Title: Rhyming sux tbh
> > Adoption index: 1.0
> > Author: V.J. Rada
> > Co-authors:
> >
> >
> > Repeal rule 1650, "Silliness"
> > Repeal the rule called "Poetry Duel Challenge Writ
> >
> > //
> > ID: 7968
> > Title: Backed Out the Door
> > Adoption index: 2.0
> > Author: Alexis
> > Co-authors: Telnaior, ais523, Aris, G.
> >
> >
> > Enact a new power-2 rule entitled "Political Parties", reading as
> > follows:
> >
> >   There are 5 Parties, in order:
> >
> >   - Platonic Isolationists
> >   - New Punchbowl Reformers
> >   - Costume Conservatives
> >   - Substance Use Liberals
> >   - Official Raving Monster Looney Party
> >
> >   Politicians are entities; each Politician has a name and an
> >   associated Party. Politicians exist only as specified by the
> >   rules. Creating, altering, or destroying Politicians is secured.
> >
> >   If there are ever fewer than 20 Politicians, then the Clork CAN
> >   and SHALL, by 

Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Proposals 7965-7972

2017-11-15 Thread Madeline

Still need to TTttPF.

On 2017-11-13 10:49, VJ Rada wrote:

I vote

ID Author(s)  AI   TitlePender  Pend fee
---
7965*  Trigon 3.0  One pronoun fix  Trigon  1 AP
FOR: Obviously nobody could conceivably object to this
7966*  ATMunn 1.0  But I already live there!o   1 AP
AGAINST: people associate Green Cards with the United States, not
Brazil. I'm sure a majority of us are American (although some are
not), but this just makes it a strange joke that nobody will get
(admittedly, not an alient concept in this game)
7967*  V.J. Rada  1.0  Rhyming sux tbh  V.J. Rada   1 AP
FOR
7968*  Alexis, [3]2.0  Backed Out the Door  Alexis  OP [1][2]
FOR (I promised Telnaior I would)
7969*  V.J. Rada, [4] 3.0  Obvious fix  V.J. Rada   2 sh.
FOR
7970*  V.J. Rada  2.0  Referee Minor FixV.J. Rada   2 sh.
FOR
7971*  V.J. Rada, [4] 3.0  Cleanup Time V.J. Rada   2 sh.
FOR (Remember your pledge, Alexis)
7972*  G. 2.0  Silly Tweaks G.  1 AP
FOR (hope it gets repealed)

On Mon, Nov 13, 2017 at 10:24 AM, Aris Merchant
 wrote:

I hereby distribute each listed proposal, initiating the Agoran
Decision of whether to adopt it, and removing it from the proposal
pool. For this decision, the vote collector is the Assessor, the
quorum is 7.0, the voting method is AI-majority, and the valid
options are FOR and AGAINST (PRESENT is also a valid vote, as
are conditional votes).

ID Author(s)  AI   TitlePender  Pend fee
---
7965*  Trigon 3.0  One pronoun fix  Trigon  1 AP
7966*  ATMunn 1.0  But I already live there!o   1 AP
7967*  V.J. Rada  1.0  Rhyming sux tbh  V.J. Rada   1 AP
7968*  Alexis, [3]2.0  Backed Out the Door  Alexis  OP [1][2]
7969*  V.J. Rada, [4] 3.0  Obvious fix  V.J. Rada   2 sh.
7970*  V.J. Rada  2.0  Referee Minor FixV.J. Rada   2 sh.
7971*  V.J. Rada, [4] 3.0  Cleanup Time V.J. Rada   2 sh.
7972*  G. 2.0  Silly Tweaks G.  1 AP

The proposal pool currently contains the following proposals:

ID   Author(s) AI   Title
---
pp1  Alexis1.7  A Most Ingenious Paradox
pp2  ATMunn, [4]   1.0  [5]


Legend: * : Proposal is pending.

[1] Official Proposal, inherently pending
[2] The official status of this proposal is disputed. If it is not official,
it has been pended by Aris for 1 AP
[3] Telnaior, ais523, Aris, G.
[4] Alexis
[5] No title


A proposal may be pended for 1 AP, or for 1/20th the Floating Value
in shines (see the Treasuror's report).

The full text of the aforementioned proposals is included below.

//
ID: 7965
Title: One pronoun fix
Adoption index: 3.0
Author: Trigon
Co-authors:


Replace the word "his" in the second paragraph of Rule 2438 ("Ribbons") with
"eir".

//
ID: 7966
Title: But I already live there
Adoption index: 1.0
Author: Trigon
Co-authors:


Amend rule 2474 "Green Cards" by replacing the text "the United States" with
"Brazil".

//
ID: 7967
Title: Rhyming sux tbh
Adoption index: 1.0
Author: V.J. Rada
Co-authors:


Repeal rule 1650, "Silliness"
Repeal the rule called "Poetry Duel Challenge Writ

//
ID: 7968
Title: Backed Out the Door
Adoption index: 2.0
Author: Alexis
Co-authors: Telnaior, ais523, Aris, G.


Enact a new power-2 rule entitled "Political Parties", reading as
follows:

   There are 5 Parties, in order:

   - Platonic Isolationists
   - New Punchbowl Reformers
   - Costume Conservatives
   - Substance Use Liberals
   - Official Raving Monster Looney Party

   Politicians are entities; each Politician has a name and an
   associated Party. Politicians exist only as specified by the
   rules. Creating, altering, or destroying Politicians is secured.

   If there are ever fewer than 20 Politicians, then the Clork CAN
   and SHALL, by announcement, create a new Politician, specifying
   eir Party and name. The Party must be selected at random from:

   - If any Party has fewer than 3 Politicans, the Party or Parties
 with the fewest.
   - Otherwise, the Parties with fewer than 5 Politicians.

Enact a new power-2 rule entitled "Clork", reading as follows:

   The Clork (pronounced "clark") is an office. The Clork's weekly
   report includes:
   - a list of all Politicans with their names 

Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Proposals 7965-7972

2017-11-12 Thread VJ Rada
"I pledge to transfer 5 shinies to the author of the first proposal that
gives the Rulekeepor authority, under Cleanup Time, to additionally
correct, at least: missing periods at the end of sentences, inconsistently
spelled game terminology, and pronoun use (including inappropriate use of
Spivak pronouns in plural contexts)."

Just looks like someone has to author one to me. I suppose the word
"gives" could mean actually affects the game instead of just the words
in the proposal. This isn't CFJ resolvable now, because of how pledges
work.

On Mon, Nov 13, 2017 at 10:55 AM, Alexis Hunt  wrote:
> On Sun, 12 Nov 2017 at 18:50 VJ Rada  wrote:
>
>> I vote
>>
> NttPF
>
>>
>> 7971*  V.J. Rada, [4] 3.0  Cleanup Time V.J. Rada   2 sh.
>> FOR (Remember your pledge, Alexis)
>>
>
> Absolutely; the pledge is only valid if it passes, however.



-- 
>From V.J. Rada


Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Proposals 7965-7972

2017-11-12 Thread Alexis Hunt
On Sun, 12 Nov 2017 at 18:50 VJ Rada  wrote:

> I vote
>
NttPF

>
> 7971*  V.J. Rada, [4] 3.0  Cleanup Time V.J. Rada   2 sh.
> FOR (Remember your pledge, Alexis)
>

Absolutely; the pledge is only valid if it passes, however.


DIS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Proposals 7965-7972

2017-11-12 Thread VJ Rada
I vote

ID Author(s)  AI   TitlePender  Pend fee
---
7965*  Trigon 3.0  One pronoun fix  Trigon  1 AP
FOR: Obviously nobody could conceivably object to this
7966*  ATMunn 1.0  But I already live there!o   1 AP
AGAINST: people associate Green Cards with the United States, not
Brazil. I'm sure a majority of us are American (although some are
not), but this just makes it a strange joke that nobody will get
(admittedly, not an alient concept in this game)
7967*  V.J. Rada  1.0  Rhyming sux tbh  V.J. Rada   1 AP
FOR
7968*  Alexis, [3]2.0  Backed Out the Door  Alexis  OP [1][2]
FOR (I promised Telnaior I would)
7969*  V.J. Rada, [4] 3.0  Obvious fix  V.J. Rada   2 sh.
FOR
7970*  V.J. Rada  2.0  Referee Minor FixV.J. Rada   2 sh.
FOR
7971*  V.J. Rada, [4] 3.0  Cleanup Time V.J. Rada   2 sh.
FOR (Remember your pledge, Alexis)
7972*  G. 2.0  Silly Tweaks G.  1 AP
FOR (hope it gets repealed)

On Mon, Nov 13, 2017 at 10:24 AM, Aris Merchant
 wrote:
> I hereby distribute each listed proposal, initiating the Agoran
> Decision of whether to adopt it, and removing it from the proposal
> pool. For this decision, the vote collector is the Assessor, the
> quorum is 7.0, the voting method is AI-majority, and the valid
> options are FOR and AGAINST (PRESENT is also a valid vote, as
> are conditional votes).
>
> ID Author(s)  AI   TitlePender  Pend fee
> ---
> 7965*  Trigon 3.0  One pronoun fix  Trigon  1 AP
> 7966*  ATMunn 1.0  But I already live there!o   1 AP
> 7967*  V.J. Rada  1.0  Rhyming sux tbh  V.J. Rada   1 AP
> 7968*  Alexis, [3]2.0  Backed Out the Door  Alexis  OP [1][2]
> 7969*  V.J. Rada, [4] 3.0  Obvious fix  V.J. Rada   2 sh.
> 7970*  V.J. Rada  2.0  Referee Minor FixV.J. Rada   2 sh.
> 7971*  V.J. Rada, [4] 3.0  Cleanup Time V.J. Rada   2 sh.
> 7972*  G. 2.0  Silly Tweaks G.  1 AP
>
> The proposal pool currently contains the following proposals:
>
> ID   Author(s) AI   Title
> ---
> pp1  Alexis1.7  A Most Ingenious Paradox
> pp2  ATMunn, [4]   1.0  [5]
>
>
> Legend: * : Proposal is pending.
>
> [1] Official Proposal, inherently pending
> [2] The official status of this proposal is disputed. If it is not official,
> it has been pended by Aris for 1 AP
> [3] Telnaior, ais523, Aris, G.
> [4] Alexis
> [5] No title
>
>
> A proposal may be pended for 1 AP, or for 1/20th the Floating Value
> in shines (see the Treasuror's report).
>
> The full text of the aforementioned proposals is included below.
>
> //
> ID: 7965
> Title: One pronoun fix
> Adoption index: 3.0
> Author: Trigon
> Co-authors:
>
>
> Replace the word "his" in the second paragraph of Rule 2438 ("Ribbons") with
> "eir".
>
> //
> ID: 7966
> Title: But I already live there
> Adoption index: 1.0
> Author: Trigon
> Co-authors:
>
>
> Amend rule 2474 "Green Cards" by replacing the text "the United States" with
> "Brazil".
>
> //
> ID: 7967
> Title: Rhyming sux tbh
> Adoption index: 1.0
> Author: V.J. Rada
> Co-authors:
>
>
> Repeal rule 1650, "Silliness"
> Repeal the rule called "Poetry Duel Challenge Writ
>
> //
> ID: 7968
> Title: Backed Out the Door
> Adoption index: 2.0
> Author: Alexis
> Co-authors: Telnaior, ais523, Aris, G.
>
>
> Enact a new power-2 rule entitled "Political Parties", reading as
> follows:
>
>   There are 5 Parties, in order:
>
>   - Platonic Isolationists
>   - New Punchbowl Reformers
>   - Costume Conservatives
>   - Substance Use Liberals
>   - Official Raving Monster Looney Party
>
>   Politicians are entities; each Politician has a name and an
>   associated Party. Politicians exist only as specified by the
>   rules. Creating, altering, or destroying Politicians is secured.
>
>   If there are ever fewer than 20 Politicians, then the Clork CAN
>   and SHALL, by announcement, create a new Politician, specifying
>   eir Party and name. The Party must be selected at random from:
>
>   - If any Party has fewer than 3 Politicans, the Party or Parties
> with the fewest.
>   - Otherwise, the Parties with fewer than 5 Politicians.
>
> Enact a new power-2 rule entitled "Clork", reading as follows:
>
>   The Clork (pronounced