Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJ 2090 judged TRUE by ais523

2008-08-13 Thread Geoffrey Spear
On Wed, Aug 13, 2008 at 1:26 AM, Quazie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does this mean 2019 is now back on ais523's plate? And if so aren't they WAY overdue for a judgement? The panel in 2019a was WAY overdue in judging. ais523 still has 6+ days to judge, since the case was just remanded to em.

DIS: Re: BUS: I do.

2008-08-13 Thread Geoffrey Spear
On Wed, Aug 13, 2008 at 1:03 AM, Quazie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i act? I doubt any of that was sufficiently unambiguous to cause any actions. Possibly the I lean. I sit. which would have had no net effect anyway as you were already sitting.

DIS: Re: BUS: I do.

2008-08-13 Thread ihope
On Wed, Aug 13, 2008 at 1:03 AM, Quazie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I run. i eat. I jump. I dance. I sing. I stand. i spread. I rip. i trip. i lie. I spin. i rotate. I taste. I present. I contribute. I register. i concur. I support. i object. I walk. I I I lean. I sit. I cfj.

DIS: Re: BUS: reregistering

2008-08-13 Thread Elliott Hird
2008/8/13 Chester Mealer [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I resume being cdm014. If the previous statement was not a possible action, I register or reregister under the name cdm014 choosing the action which best communicates that I was previously an active player called cdm014 and wish to be so again.

DIS: Re: BUS: CFJ

2008-08-13 Thread Geoffrey Spear
On Wed, Aug 13, 2008 at 11:50 AM, Chester Mealer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Gender Neutral pronouns(e.g eir, e, and e's) are words granted meaning and usage under the set of rules excluding 754(4). I believe it's 754(1) that grants them meaning, since those words have no ordinary-language

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: CFJ

2008-08-13 Thread Elliott Hird
2008/8/13 Geoffrey Spear [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I believe it's 754(1) that grants them meaning, since those words have no ordinary-language meaning. I'd say they represent either a difference in spelling or dialect, depending on your view of whether a language variation with a tiny number of

DIS: Re: BUS: I do.

2008-08-13 Thread Ben Caplan
On Wednesday 13 August 2008 12:03:46 am Quazie wrote: I stand. Ineffective, you cannot generally flip your own posture to standing. I register. Ineffective, you are already a player. I support. i object. Ineffective, it's not clear what you're supporting/objecting to. I I I lean. I sit.

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: I do.

2008-08-13 Thread Ed Murphy
Pavitra wrote: I I I lean. I sit. Probably effective. I hem. i haw. I hug. Probably effective. We have a tradition of respecting creative paraphrases like I lie down for I become supine. These two are no-ops. I'm treating them as successful. I inactive. Probably effective. This

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: CFJ

2008-08-13 Thread Geoffrey Spear
On Wed, Aug 13, 2008 at 12:25 PM, Elliott Hird [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: he or she, surely. We don't call objects e do we? We have players that aren't humans and thus have no gender, and the rules do use e when referring to players, so yes.

DIS: Re: BUS: I do.

2008-08-13 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Tue, 12 Aug 2008, Quazie wrote: [snip] TIATEOISIRIEIJIDISISISIRITILISIRITIPICIRICISIOIWIIILISICIEIIIFIR IVILIDIBISIEIUILILILISIMITIEISIRIBIHIHIHISIPIP-PIMIDIDIWINIAIWICIJIP IDIDICISIOICIDIDIWILICISIWIAISISIIISIPILIEIBAWRISIATHPAFALT.

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: I do.

2008-08-13 Thread Ben Caplan
On Wednesday 13 August 2008 12:38:12 pm Kerim Aydin wrote: On Tue, 12 Aug 2008, Quazie wrote: [snip] TIATEOISIRIEIJIDISISISIRITILISIRITIPICIRICISIOIWIIILISICIEIIIFIR IVILIDIBISIEIUILILILISIMITIEISIRIBIHIHIHISIPIP-PIMIDIDIWINIAIWICIJIP

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: I do.

2008-08-13 Thread Quazie
On Wed, Aug 13, 2008 at 10:52 AM, Ben Caplan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wednesday 13 August 2008 12:38:12 pm Kerim Aydin wrote: On Tue, 12 Aug 2008, Quazie wrote: [snip] TIATEOISIRIEIJIDISISISIRITILISIRITIPICIRICISIOIWIIILISICIEIIIFIR

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: I do.

2008-08-13 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Wed, 13 Aug 2008, Quazie wrote: On Wed, Aug 13, 2008 at 10:38 AM, Kerim Aydin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 12 Aug 2008, Quazie wrote: [snip] TIATEOISIRIEIJIDISISISIRITILISIRITIPICIRICISIOIWIIILISICIEIIIFIR IVILIDIBISIEIUILILILISIMITIEISIRIBIHIHIHISIPIP-PIMIDIDIWINIAIWICIJIP

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: I do.

2008-08-13 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Wed, 13 Aug 2008, Quazie wrote: On Wed, Aug 13, 2008 at 10:52 AM, Ben Caplan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wednesday 13 August 2008 12:38:12 pm Kerim Aydin wrote: On Tue, 12 Aug 2008, Quazie wrote: [snip] TIATEOISIRIEIJIDISISISIRITILISIRITIPICIRICISIOIWIIILISICIEIIIFIR

Re: DIS: Draft FLR(,v)

2008-08-13 Thread Zefram
comex wrote: Anyone have the script for FLR--SLR? Attached. -zefram #!/usr/bin/perl use warnings; use strict; use IO::Handle; { my $peeked_line; sub peekline() { unless(defined $peeked_line) { local $/ = \n;

Re: DIS: Draft FLR(,v)

2008-08-13 Thread comex
On Wed, Aug 13, 2008 at 3:35 PM, Zefram [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: comex wrote: Anyone have the script for FLR--SLR? Attached. Excess newline removed, and all of these should be up to date: http://cfj.qoid.us/current_flr.txt http://cfj.qoid.us/current_flr.txt,v http://cfj.qoid.us/current_slr.txt

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: I do.

2008-08-13 Thread Ed Murphy
Pavitra wrote: On Wednesday 13 August 2008 12:38:12 pm Kerim Aydin wrote: On Tue, 12 Aug 2008, Quazie wrote: [snip] TIATEOISIRIEIJIDISISISIRITILISIRITIPICIRICISIOIWIIILISICIEIIIFIR IVILIDIBISIEIUILILILISIMITIEISIRIBIHIHIHISIPIP-PIMIDIDIWINIAIWICIJIP

DIS: Re: BUS: TNP2 registers

2008-08-13 Thread Geoffrey Spear
On Tue, Aug 12, 2008 at 3:43 PM, comex [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, Aug 12, 2008 at 3:40 PM, root [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On behalf of TNP2: TNP2 registers. I nominate TNP2 for Rulekeepor. This was ineffective as the nomination period for the office had ended.

DIS: Re: BUS: too busy

2008-08-13 Thread Geoffrey Spear
On Sun, Aug 10, 2008 at 8:01 PM, comex [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I nominate each of ais523, BobTHJ, comex, Goethe, Murphy, OscarMeyr, Quazie, root, Sgeo, Taral, tusho, woggle, and Wooble for each of the offices of Promotor and Rulekeepor. I'm going to treat this self-nomination as an acceptance

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJ 2132a assigned to woggle, comex, BobTHJ

2008-08-13 Thread comex
On Wed, Aug 13, 2008 at 8:41 PM, Charles Reiss [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I intend, with the consent of the rest of the panel, to REMAND this case to Sgeo, so that e might judge the case again while thinking more clearly, and also consider the precedent of CFJ 1771. Appeals are support (not

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJ 2132a assigned to woggle, comex, BobTHJ

2008-08-13 Thread Charles Reiss
On Wed, Aug 13, 2008 at 19:12, comex [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, Aug 13, 2008 at 8:41 PM, Charles Reiss [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I intend, with the consent of the rest of the panel, to REMAND this case to Sgeo, so that e might judge the case again while thinking more clearly, and also

DIS: Partnershpis can't do anything anymore

2008-08-13 Thread Quazie
By CFJ 2050 doing x on behalf of another player is really just you doing x. Thus if I make a partnership vote on something, it is really me voting. Thus partnerships can't do anything.

Re: DIS: Partnershpis can't do anything anymore

2008-08-13 Thread comex
On Wed, Aug 13, 2008 at 10:45 PM, Quazie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: By CFJ 2050 doing x on behalf of another player is really just you doing x. Thus if I make a partnership vote on something, it is really me voting. Thus partnerships can't do anything. Umm... that is an absurd precedent. I

Re: DIS: Partnershpis can't do anything anymore

2008-08-13 Thread Quazie
On Wed, Aug 13, 2008 at 8:14 PM, comex [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, Aug 13, 2008 at 10:45 PM, Quazie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: By CFJ 2050 doing x on behalf of another player is really just you doing x. Thus if I make a partnership vote on something, it is really me voting. Thus

DIS: Re: BUS: 2082a

2008-08-13 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Wed, 13 Aug 2008, Ed Murphy wrote: 2082a: If tusho's stated belief that failing speech acts were not illegal was reasonable, then UNAWARE was appropriate and thus GUILTY was inappropriate. I intend (with the support of fellow panelists pikhq and Goethe) to cause the panel to judge

Re: BUS: Re: DIS: Partnershpis can't do anything anymore

2008-08-13 Thread Ed Murphy
woggle wrote: Proposal: Overturn CFJ 2050 {{ comex is a co-author of this proposal. Set the judgment on the question of veracity in CFJ 2050 to TRUE. This isn't strictly needed. From Rule 591: The judgement of the question in an inquiry case, and the reasoning by which it was

Re: BUS: Re: DIS: Partnershpis can't do anything anymore

2008-08-13 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Wed, 13 Aug 2008, Charles Reiss wrote: Proposal: Overturn CFJ 2050 {{ comex is a co-author of this proposal. Set the judgment on the question of veracity in CFJ 2050 to TRUE. Oh this is horrid and unneeded though I agree with the arguments. Just CFJ again, there's no reason a new CFJ

Re: BUS: Re: DIS: Partnershpis can't do anything anymore

2008-08-13 Thread Ben Caplan
On Wednesday 13 August 2008 11:03:13 pm Ed Murphy wrote: define some useful label for X's role in the matter. Executor

Re: BUS: Re: DIS: Partnershpis can't do anything anymore

2008-08-13 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Wed, 13 Aug 2008, Ed Murphy wrote: Rule 2170 (Who Am I?) should probably also be amended to state that X CAN act on behalf of Y constitutes a legal fiction that Y is the one acting, and define some useful label for X's role in the matter. How about, er, Power of Attorney? Grantor, Holder,

Re: BUS: Re: DIS: Partnershpis can't do anything anymore

2008-08-13 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Wed, 13 Aug 2008, Ed Murphy wrote: Any player CAN appeal CFJ 2050 by announcement, upon which this rule is repealed. Why not a rule that allows late appeals with a higher support number (or Agoran Consent, would need that to get this passed anyway). -Goethe

DIS: Re: agora-discussion digest, Vol 1 #2921 - 12 msgs

2008-08-13 Thread Chester Mealer
I had posted a message indicating my intent to deregister. Assuming my deregistering was successful, I don't know why it wouldn't be, I would need to register again. --cdm014

Re: DIS: Re: agora-discussion digest, Vol 1 #2921 - 12 msgs

2008-08-13 Thread Ed Murphy
cdm014 wrote: I had posted a message indicating my intent to deregister. Assuming my deregistering was successful, I don't know why it wouldn't be, I would need to register again. Nothing in the archives (unless you sent it to a-d, or a backup list). Your last two messages prior to your

Re: BUS: Re: DIS: Partnershpis can't do anything anymore

2008-08-13 Thread Ed Murphy
Goethe wrote: On Wed, 13 Aug 2008, Ed Murphy wrote: Rule 2170 (Who Am I?) should probably also be amended to state that X CAN act on behalf of Y constitutes a legal fiction that Y is the one acting, and define some useful label for X's role in the matter. How about, er, Power of Attorney?

Re: BUS: Re: DIS: Partnershpis can't do anything anymore

2008-08-13 Thread comex
On Thu, Aug 14, 2008 at 12:57 AM, Ed Murphy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: R2170 already defines Executor (as the first-class person who sends it, or who most directly and immediately causes it to be sent). Going back to Grantor and Holder would work. (History lesson: the rules used to explicitly