DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Speaker] CFJ 3400 assigned to woggle

2014-02-14 Thread woggle
On 2/13/14, 5:06 , Fool wrote: Even if we were to interpret win the game as requiring gameplay to otherwise cease, this action would be beyond the power of the Power-1 Rule 2419. Much of Agora's gameplay is defined at Power 1 and the rules allowing such gameplay to continue would take

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Speaker] CFJ 3402 assigned to ais523

2014-02-14 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Fri, 14 Feb 2014, Alex Smith wrote: So I'd say that Lilly's communication is not capable of communicating anything that's outside the experience of the human or other entity e's communicating with. There's something lacking in this sort of communication that seems to fail to meet the

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Speaker] CFJ 3402 assigned to ais523

2014-02-14 Thread omd
On Fri, Feb 14, 2014 at 3:18 PM, Kerim Aydin ke...@u.washington.edu wrote: I think that there's a past precedent or two it's important to consider whom you can communicate to as part of communication. For example, code or slang (AGAINT) is only communication if the Reasonable Agoran (or if

DIS: Re: BUS: help wanted

2014-02-14 Thread Jonatan Kilhamn
On 14 February 2014 18:37, Kerim Aydin ke...@u.washington.edu wrote: Now that things are really picking up, I'd love it if someone out there would be willing to do Promotor so I can keep the Herald's game and CFJs up to date. I don't mind being assessor but if someone wants that, more than

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Speaker] CFJ 3402 assigned to ais523

2014-02-14 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Fri, 14 Feb 2014, omd wrote: On Fri, Feb 14, 2014 at 3:18 PM, Kerim Aydin ke...@u.washington.edu wrote: I think that there's a past precedent or two it's important to consider whom you can communicate to as part of communication. For example, code or slang (AGAINT) is only

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: help wanted

2014-02-14 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Fri, 14 Feb 2014, Jonatan Kilhamn wrote: Thanks for the confidence, but not now. Ask me again in two months, when the theatre group I'm in has finished this year's production. Break a leg!!

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Speaker] CFJ 3402 assigned to ais523

2014-02-14 Thread omd
On Fri, Feb 14, 2014 at 4:59 PM, Kerim Aydin ke...@u.washington.edu wrote: Let's say a human started sending messages to the board in a language that no-one else here recognized, or said this is an obscure dialect of Navajo but didn't offer any other translations. At least one CFJ found that

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Speaker] CFJ 3402 assigned to ais523

2014-02-14 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Fri, 14 Feb 2014, omd wrote: Yep! But it matters if I submit her as a co-author for a proposal, as it determines whether the Promotor and Rulekeepor must mention her, so there. (Of course that's arguably UNDETERMINED since I have not provided any proof that she exists...) Huh. Is

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: (Mis)Applying My Linguistics Skills

2014-02-14 Thread Nicholas Evans
On 2/12/2014 12:46 PM, omd wrote: On Wed, Feb 12, 2014 at 9:42 AM, Nich Del Evans nich...@gmail.com wrote: I also agree that they can imitate recursion to an even more limited extent. Well, if a computer program can manage to parse a deeply nested sentence, I expect it could proceed to

DIS: Re: BUS: Who's a good girl, then?

2014-02-14 Thread Alex Smith
On Fri, 2014-02-14 at 15:59 -0800, Kerim Aydin wrote: I transfer an 'i' to Lilly. (This is actually non-controversial; operator ownership isn't limited to players or persons). Isn't it slightly controversial, in that there's currently no proof generally available to Agorans that Lilly exists

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: (Mis)Applying My Linguistics Skills

2014-02-14 Thread omd
On Fri, Feb 14, 2014 at 6:43 PM, Nicholas Evans nich...@gmail.com wrote: Otherwise, I see no reason that a dog-machine combination shouldn't be allowed to play, though I doubt they would do much. We really need a quote book... :)