I mean, I’m inclined to agree with G.’s interpretation there. It would do
something, but it’s IMPOSSIBLE to determine the result, making the whole
thing ambiguous.
But anyways, the sword of “the majority” doesn’t really matter to me. My
opinion is my own.
On Monday, March 2, 2020, Tanner Swett
On Mon, Mar 2, 2020, 08:23 Cuddle Beam via agora-discussion <
agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote:
> But yeah, even if it is tradition, I'm not against just going contrary to
> it since all we need to do that is enough people agreeing to do so, and I'd
> agree to it (although, probably not
On 3/2/2020 3:45 AM, Cuddle Beam wrote:
> On Mon, Mar 2, 2020 at 12:39 PM Tanner Swett wrote:
>> On Mon, Mar 2, 2020, 04:41 Cuddle Beam wrote:
>>
>>> I think this would cause:
>>> - A big and spreading fog of war of CfJ DISMISS, because its
>> "undecidable"
>>> and "insufficient information
CuddleBeam wrote:
> But "a player" is just one player, no? At least that's my understanding of it.
Compare, for example:
> A player whose master is not emself is a zombie (syn. inactive);
> all other players are active.
I don't think any reasonable interpretation of the rules would
On Mon, Mar 2, 2020, 04:41 Cuddle Beam via agora-discussion <
agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote:
> I think this would cause:
> - A big and spreading fog of war of CfJ DISMISS, because its "undecidable"
> and "insufficient information exists" to know what's going on with coins
>
My proposal
> My proposal would just create an ambiguity in the rules, and we never
judge DISMISS due to an ambiguity in the rules; we pick an interpretation
instead.
Why is this? (Is it just culture? A CfJ-rule? A rule?)
On Mon, Mar 2, 2020 at 12:39 PM Tanner Swett via agora-discussion <
...or
- Some CfJ-rule already exists to let us ignore its effects.
On Mon, Mar 2, 2020 at 10:41 AM Cuddle Beam wrote:
> I think this would cause:
> - A big and spreading fog of war of CfJ DISMISS, because its "undecidable"
> and "insufficient information exists" to know what's going on with
I think this would cause:
- A big and spreading fog of war of CfJ DISMISS, because its "undecidable"
and "insufficient information exists" to know what's going on with coins
- Or the Judge would make a new CfJ-rule that would allow us to ignore its
effects altogether because it can't be
On Mon, Mar 2, 2020, 06:45 Cuddle Beam via agora-discussion <
agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote:
> > My proposal would just create an ambiguity in the rules, and we never
> judge DISMISS due to an ambiguity in the rules; we pick an interpretation
> instead.
>
> Why is this? (Is it just
Yes but I believe there is a difference, it's the same word "a", but with
different meaning. And what matters is the meaning of the word, not just
the word used. You see, that's what matters, in this matter. Also,
unrelated, liquids are a state of matter.
If I tell you "you can take a cupcake",
Ah, alright. I wasn't familiar with that. I've been here for so long and I
still don't know that stuff lmao.
But yeah, even if it is tradition, I'm not against just going contrary to
it since all we need to do that is enough people agreeing to do so, and I'd
agree to it (although, probably not
On 3/1/20 3:11 PM, Jason Cobb wrote:
> Oh, apparently I can be bought. I change my vote in the ongoing ADoP
> election to ENDORSE twg.
>
> I cause Rance to change eir vote in the ongoing ADoP election to [Aris].
>
> -- Jason Cobb
Well, apparently I don't know what the acronym for "Prime
On Sunday, March 1, 2020 10:46 PM, Alexis Hunt via agora-discussion
wrote:
> On Sun., Mar. 1, 2020, 17:05 Tanner Swett via agora-business, <
> agora-busin...@agoranomic.org> wrote:
>
> > I submit a proposal with AI = 1, titled "Somebody gets a coin":
> > {
> > Enact a power-1 rule titled "A
On Monday, March 2, 2020, Timon Walshe-Grey via agora-discussion <
agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote:
> G. wrote:
> > Well, we purposefully error-trapped switches, which suggests that we
> allow
> > that sort of thing if the rules are explicit about it happening:
> >
> > > If a type of
CuddleBeam wrote:
> If I tell you "you can take a cupcake", that doesn't mean you can take
> ALL the cookies. It means you can take one.
>
> And if I say "a cupcake is a pastry", that doesn't mean that only ONE
> cupcake is a pastry. It means that all cupcakes are pastries.
Sure, I'm with you
G. wrote:
> Well, we purposefully error-trapped switches, which suggests that we allow
> that sort of thing if the rules are explicit about it happening:
>
> > If a type of switch is not explicitly designated as
> > possibly-indeterminate by the rule that defines it, and if an action
> >
On 3/2/2020 8:11 AM, Cuddle Beam via agora-discussion wrote:
> On Monday, March 2, 2020, Tanner Swett via agora-discussion wrote:
>> On Mon, Mar 2, 2020, 08:23 Cuddle Beam wrote:
>>
>>> But yeah, even if it is tradition, I'm not against just going contrary to
>>> it since all we need to do that
But "a player" is just one player, no? At least that's my understanding of
it.
On Mon, Mar 2, 2020 at 10:50 AM Timon Walshe-Grey via agora-discussion <
agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote:
> On Sunday, March 1, 2020 10:46 PM, Alexis Hunt via agora-discussion <
>
CuddleBeam wrote:
> So, twg was cool to not weasel out when they had the chance to, so I will
> as well. I don’t know how to best do this aside from a Pledge, and I dont
> want to make the N too high in case he wants to use the blot availability I
> have during rental for something and this Pledge
On 3/2/2020 3:50 PM, Timon Walshe-Grey via agora-discussion wrote:
> CuddleBeam wrote:
>> So, twg was cool to not weasel out when they had the chance to, so I will
>> as well. I don’t know how to best do this aside from a Pledge, and I dont
>> want to make the N too high in case he wants to use
On Mon, Mar 2, 2020, 11:34 Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion <
agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote:
> Well, we purposefully error-trapped switches, which suggests that we allow
> that sort of thing if the rules are explicit about it happening:
>
But an indeterminate value is merely one that
On 3/2/2020 2:40 PM, Gaelan Steele via agora-discussion wrote:
> Not yet. Think I have till tomorrow?
>
I'm showing it as assigned Feb 19th, due Feb 26th:
https://mailman.agoranomic.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/agora-official/2020-February/013456.html
(but I'm not going to recuse you for
G. wrote:
> On 3/2/2020 12:54 PM, Gaelan Steele via agora-discussion wrote:
> >> On Mar 2, 2020, at 12:46 PM, Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >> Please, put some effort in though. After a request/discussion a couple
> >> months ago people stopped doing it and threads became
us young whippersnappers and our fancy email clients, that’s who
Gaelan
P.S. Chapter 3 of Gretchen McCulloch’s book Because Internet, about
“generational” differences in internet communication styles, is quite
interesting in an Agoran context.
> On Mar 2, 2020, at 12:19 PM, Kerim Aydin via
Not yet. Think I have till tomorrow?
Sent from my iPhone
> On Mar 2, 2020, at 1:52 PM, Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion
> wrote:
>
>
>> On 2/20/2020 3:08 PM, Gaelan Steele via agora-discussion wrote:
>> CFJ 3813 asks us whether Agora is a contract...
>
> Gaelan did you ever deliver this
On 3/2/2020 2:25 PM, Tanner Swett wrote:
> On Mon, Mar 2, 2020, 11:34 Kerim Aydin wrote:
>
>> Well, we purposefully error-trapped switches, which suggests that we allow
>> that sort of thing if the rules are explicit about it happening:
>>
>
> But an indeterminate value is merely one that
On 3/1/20 6:13 PM, Tanner Swett via agora-business wrote:
> ## Bylaw 7: IPO
>
> Within 90 days after this contract is created, any entity CAN buy a
> share by announcement; in the same message, the entity must transfer 10
> coins and/or banknotes to the Dragon Corporation as a cost for this
>
On 3/2/20 7:23 PM, Kerim Aydin via agora-official wrote:
> The below CFJ is 3818. I assign it to Jason.
>
> status: https://faculty.washington.edu/kerim/nomic/cases/#3818
>
> === CFJ 3818 ===
>
> Rance's master switch is set to
I always prefer an interpretation that the rules and game state are fixed
clearly and intractably at all times, and it is only our failure that
prevents us from having knowledge of them. Anyway, these conditionals, I
think, are the most strongly supported by game custom. The "if this exists,
I do
I vividly remember arguing that the "unless the pledge explicitly states
otherwise" didn't actually say would would happen if the pledge DID happen
to explicitly state otherwise.
On Tue, Mar 3, 2020 at 11:28 AM Kerim Aydin via agora-official <
agora-offic...@agoranomic.org> wrote:
> The below
On Mon, 2 Mar 2020 at 19:28, Kerim Aydin via agora-official
wrote:
>
> The below CFJ is 3821. I assign it to Alexis.
>
> status: https://faculty.washington.edu/kerim/nomic/cases/#3821
>
> === CFJ 3821 ===
>
> twg is both Speaker and
I become a party to the Dragon Corporation.
I transfer 10 coins to DRGN to buy a share.
I transfer 10 coins to DRGN to buy a share.
I transfer 10 coins to DRGN to buy a share.
I transfer 10 coins to DRGN to buy a share.
I will neither confirm nor deny that I performed this hostile takeover
> On Mar 2, 2020, at 6:46 PM, Gaelan Steele via agora-discussion
> wrote:
>
> NOTARY'S REPORT OF MARCH 03 2020
Oops, I omitted the notes for Chattelbeam. Fixed draft:
NOTARY'S REPORT OF MARCH 03 2020
An up-to-date version of this report is available online at
> Mar 03 2020 01:50:
> Gaelan joined, purchased 3 shares and became president
CoE: You purchased 4 shares, not 3, and you did so via my t4pf a couple of
minutes ago.
—Warrigal
Oh okay, there is no zombie auction per CFJ 1817, so yes, false per caller
On Tue, Mar 3, 2020 at 11:58 AM Rebecca wrote:
> I always prefer an interpretation that the rules and game state are fixed
> clearly and intractably at all times, and it is only our failure that
> prevents us from having
There were a lot of contract/pledge changes in the past few days. Just
to make sure we’re all on the same page, here’s my current report.
If you don’t mind, please take a look at contracts/pledges you care
about make sure we agree.
Gaelan
NOTARY'S REPORT OF MARCH 03 2020
An up-to-date version
> On Mar 2, 2020, at 2:50 PM, Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion
> wrote:
>
>
> On 3/2/2020 2:40 PM, Gaelan Steele via agora-discussion wrote:
>> Not yet. Think I have till tomorrow?
>>
>
> I'm showing it as assigned Feb 19th, due Feb 26th:
>
>
> On Mon, Mar 2, 2020, 20:50 Gaelan Steele wrote:
>
>> I become a party to the Dragon Corporation.
On 3/2/2020 7:11 PM, Tanner Swett via agora-business wrote:
> As per the contract known as "Gaelan's Really Bad At Sending Things To
> The Public Forum", I act on Gaelan's behalf to perform the
On 3/2/2020 12:38 PM, Gaelan Steele via agora-discussion wrote:
> us young whippersnappers and our fancy email clients, that’s who
>
> Gaelan
>
> P.S. Chapter 3 of Gretchen McCulloch’s book Because Internet, about
> “generational” differences in internet communication styles, is quite
>
On 2/20/2020 3:08 PM, Gaelan Steele via agora-discussion wrote:
> CFJ 3813 asks us whether Agora is a contract...
Gaelan did you ever deliver this judgement I can't find anything on BUS or
OFF that has it just not sure if I'm missing it. -G.
> On Mar 2, 2020, at 12:46 PM, Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion
> wrote:
>
> Please, put some effort in though. After a request/discussion a couple
> months ago people stopped doing it and threads became easier to read
> again. Now it's becoming hard to read threads again. Some courtesy
alright WHO brought back regulations goddamnit
On Tue, Mar 3, 2020 at 12:12 AM sukil via agora-business <
agora-busin...@agoranomic.org> wrote:
>
> El 01/03/2020 a las 5:53, James Cook via agora-business escribió:
> > On Wed, 26 Feb 2020 at 15:14, sukil via agora-business
> > wrote:
> >> I
On 3/2/2020 12:01 PM, Rebecca via agora-discussion wrote:
> alright WHO brought back regulations goddamnit
who brought back top-posting is what I want to know
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