Re: DIS: Re: BUS: All right, I'll try it later

2016-10-13 Thread Aris Merchant
Well, if we want to make thing interesting then maybe e should be speaker.


-Aris

On Thursday, October 13, 2016, ais523  wrote:

> On Thu, 2016-10-13 at 12:56 -0700, Kerim Aydin wrote:
> > I was kind of hoping that current Speaker ais523 might demonstrate
> > this power to keep eir office :).
>
> Oh, I was thinking that if there was actual desire for a new Speaker, I
> wasn't going to override the rest of Agora on that. It wouldn't be very
> effective because I could still be ousted by proposal; there's not much
> point in scamming when obvious counterscams exist (and if I had a
> method of blocking arbitrary proposals, I'd save it for a time when I
> could get more out of it than just the Speakership).
>
> Additionally, political power in Agora atm is fairly useless because
> there isn't enough of an economy to interfere in.
>
> --
> ais523
>


Re: DIS: Re: BUS: All right, I'll try it later

2016-10-13 Thread ais523
On Thu, 2016-10-13 at 12:56 -0700, Kerim Aydin wrote:
> I was kind of hoping that current Speaker ais523 might demonstrate
> this power to keep eir office :).

Oh, I was thinking that if there was actual desire for a new Speaker, I
wasn't going to override the rest of Agora on that. It wouldn't be very
effective because I could still be ousted by proposal; there's not much
point in scamming when obvious counterscams exist (and if I had a
method of blocking arbitrary proposals, I'd save it for a time when I
could get more out of it than just the Speakership).

Additionally, political power in Agora atm is fairly useless because
there isn't enough of an economy to interfere in.

-- 
ais523


Re: DIS: Re: BUS: All right, I'll try it later

2016-10-13 Thread Luis Ressel
On Thu, 13 Oct 2016 13:22:15 -0700
Aris Merchant  wrote:

> Thanks. The gameplay details seemed right?
> 
> -Aris
> 

Yep, you got that right. Btw, my rationale for supporting this intent
was indeed a vague hope for accidental or malicious abuse of the
Speaker's powers. :)

-- 
aranea


Re: DIS: Re: BUS: All right, I'll try it later

2016-10-13 Thread Aris Merchant
Thanks. The gameplay details seemed right?

-Aris

On Thu, Oct 13, 2016 at 12:21 PM, ais523 
wrote:

> On Thu, 2016-10-13 at 12:07 -0700, Aris Merchant wrote:
> > I'm afraid I oppose. The office of speaker has veto power,  and I'm not
> > sure if I trust em that much after es (Is that the right pronoun?) last
> CFJ.
>
> "eir".
>
> --
> ais523
>


Re: DIS: Re: BUS: All right, I'll try it later

2016-10-13 Thread Kerim Aydin


On Thu, 13 Oct 2016, ais523 wrote:
> On Thu, 2016-10-13 at 12:07 -0700, Aris Merchant wrote:
> > I'm afraid I oppose. The office of speaker has veto power,  and I'm not
> > sure if I trust em that much after es (Is that the right pronoun?) last CFJ.
> 
> "eir".
> 
> -- 
> ais523

I was kind of hoping that current Speaker ais523 might demonstrate this power 
to keep eir office :).

The intent has in fact timed out; having pointed out the Speaker-changing 
possibility I'll let others re-intend/fight it out if desired...

Also: last few weeks unexpectedly busy, should catch up reports myself in next 
week, apologies.

-G.




Re: DIS: Re: BUS: All right, I'll try it later

2016-10-13 Thread ais523
On Thu, 2016-10-13 at 12:07 -0700, Aris Merchant wrote:
> I'm afraid I oppose. The office of speaker has veto power,  and I'm not
> sure if I trust em that much after es (Is that the right pronoun?) last CFJ.

"eir".

-- 
ais523


DIS: Re: BUS: All right, I'll try it later

2016-10-13 Thread Aris Merchant
Just to be clear, under R2124/18 (Agoran Satisfaction) the speaker can veto
an announcement of intent by indefinitely objecting to it. They have to
renew it every 48 hours, but that's a lot of power.

-Aris

On Thu, Oct 13, 2016 at 12:07 PM, Aris Merchant <
thoughtsoflifeandligh...@gmail.com> wrote:

> I'm afraid I oppose. The office of speaker has veto power,  and I'm not
> sure if I trust em that much after es (Is that the right pronoun?) last CFJ.
>
> -Aris
>
> On Thu, Oct 13, 2016 at 3:36 AM, Luis Ressel  wrote:
>
>> On Thu, 22 Sep 2016 11:40:36 -0700 (PDT)
>> Kerim Aydin  wrote:
>>
>> > Well if *speaker* rather than *champion is what you're after:
>> >
>> > I announce my intent to appoint Alexis to the office of Speaker,
>> > with Support.  (90+ day limit passed).
>> >
>>
>> I support, despite not being sure if this type of intent can time out.
>>
>> --
>> aranea
>>
>
>


DIS: Re: BUS: All right, I'll try it later

2016-10-13 Thread Aris Merchant
I'm afraid I oppose. The office of speaker has veto power,  and I'm not
sure if I trust em that much after es (Is that the right pronoun?) last CFJ.

-Aris

On Thu, Oct 13, 2016 at 3:36 AM, Luis Ressel  wrote:

> On Thu, 22 Sep 2016 11:40:36 -0700 (PDT)
> Kerim Aydin  wrote:
>
> > Well if *speaker* rather than *champion is what you're after:
> >
> > I announce my intent to appoint Alexis to the office of Speaker,
> > with Support.  (90+ day limit passed).
> >
>
> I support, despite not being sure if this type of intent can time out.
>
> --
> aranea
>