Re: Fw: Re: DIS: Re: OFF: End of June Zombie Auction

2019-06-16 Thread James Cook
This is interesting. R1885, power 2, says "the Registrar CAN put that zombie ... up for auction.". R2549 is power 1, so I think 1885 wins. It doesn't exactly say "initiate" an auction, but in the context of the rules I think it must mean that. I can think of two ways to interpret the situation.

Fw: Re: DIS: Re: OFF: End of June Zombie Auction

2019-06-16 Thread Timon Walshe-Grey
Forwarding to DIS - you sent this to me privately, presumably by mistake. In answer to the question, that seems plausible to me. -twg ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ On Sunday, June 16, 2019 2:02 AM, Rance Bedwell wrote: > > > R2549 says "An Auction also CANNOT be initiated unless the

Re: DIS: Re: OFF: End of June Zombie Auction

2019-06-15 Thread Timon Walshe-Grey
If I recall correctly, there used to be a thing in rule 2551 that meant the clause "if the auctioneer CAN transfer the items... at will" didn't apply if the auctioneer was Agora. That seems to have gotten lost somewhere along the line - possibly in proposal 8113, which removed a sentence but

Re: DIS: Re: OFF: End of June Zombie Auction

2019-06-14 Thread omd
On Fri, Jun 14, 2019 at 10:40 PM James Cook wrote: > Ha, maybe. Here's another argument, though: Master is secured at a > power threshold of 2. Rule 2551 ("Auction End") only has power 1. I > doubt Rule 2551 can get around that by saying it's Agora doing it > rather than R2551, but if it can, I

Re: DIS: Re: OFF: End of June Zombie Auction

2019-06-14 Thread James Cook
On Sat, 15 Jun 2019 at 03:26, omd wrote: > On Fri, Jun 14, 2019 at 7:44 PM James Cook wrote: > > Could you elabourate? Even if we should pretend zombies are assets, it's > > not always true that an asset's owner CAN transfer it. E.g. if I had blots > > and auctioned them off, I don't think

Re: DIS: Re: OFF: End of June Zombie Auction

2019-06-14 Thread omd
On Fri, Jun 14, 2019 at 7:44 PM James Cook wrote: > Could you elabourate? Even if we should pretend zombies are assets, it's > not always true that an asset's owner CAN transfer it. E.g. if I had blots > and auctioned them off, I don't think anything would allow me to transfer > them to the

Re: DIS: Re: OFF: End of June Zombie Auction

2019-06-14 Thread Rebecca
Yes, I am convinced that you are absolutely right. I guess nobody has any zombies then. On Sat, Jun 15, 2019 at 12:51 PM Rebecca wrote: > Oh sorry, I missed the key "if" in there > > On Sat, 15 Jun 2019, 12:44 PM James Cook wrote: > >> Could you elabourate? Even if we should pretend zombies

Re: DIS: Re: OFF: End of June Zombie Auction

2019-06-14 Thread Rebecca
Oh sorry, I missed the key "if" in there On Sat, 15 Jun 2019, 12:44 PM James Cook wrote: > Could you elabourate? Even if we should pretend zombies are assets, it's > not always true that an asset's owner CAN transfer it. E.g. if I had blots > and auctioned them off, I don't think anything would

Re: DIS: Re: OFF: End of June Zombie Auction

2019-06-14 Thread James Cook
Could you elabourate? Even if we should pretend zombies are assets, it's not always true that an asset's owner CAN transfer it. E.g. if I had blots and auctioned them off, I don't think anything would allow me to transfer them to the winner of the auction. On Fri., Jun. 14, 2019, 22:17 Rebecca,

Re: DIS: Re: OFF: End of June Zombie Auction

2019-06-14 Thread James Cook
Your message to the discussion list said 8, but on agora-business I see "Anyway I bid 7 coins on the ongoing zombie auction". On Fri., Jun. 14, 2019, 22:13 Rebecca, wrote: > Coe I bid eight coins so I should win the third zombie > > On Sat, 15 Jun 2019, 12:09 PM James Cook wrote: > > > The

Re: DIS: Re: OFF: End of June Zombie Auction

2019-06-14 Thread Rebecca
Unlike the argument about blogs, this argument stretches annoying textual ism beyond its breaking point. To transfer in this context means to change from the ownership of one entity to anothwr. So the auctioneer CAN transfer the switch: from agora to the auction winners. On Sat, 15 Jun 2019,

DIS: Re: OFF: End of June Zombie Auction

2019-06-14 Thread Rebecca
Coe I bid eight coins so I should win the third zombie On Sat, 15 Jun 2019, 12:09 PM James Cook wrote: > The zombie auction I initiated 2019-06-06 has ended. > > Lots: > 1. Publius Scribonius Scholasticus > 2. Corona > 3. Hālian > 4. Tarhalindur > > Bids (all times UTC): > 2019-06-07 17:01:

DIS: Re: OFF: End of June Zombie Auction

2019-06-14 Thread James Cook
Warning: I don't think paying Agora for one's prize will cause that zombie's Master switch to be flipped to the payer, and I plan to call a CFJ about it once someone tries to claim their zombie (easier to phrase the CFJ after that's happened). (I think the winners are still obligated to pay for