Re: BUS: Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJ 3381 assigned to ais523

2013-08-12 Thread Fool
On 06/08/2013 2:36 PM, Craig Daniel wrote: They're actually mostly not for counterscam purposes, as I don't claim they actually have any scammy effect. (Rather, I claim that their destroyability is paradoxical, and therefore I ought to be able to get a win by paradox in the near future. I'm

Re: BUS: Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJ 3381 assigned to ais523

2013-08-12 Thread Ørjan Johansen
On Mon, 12 Aug 2013, Fool wrote in response to Craig Daniel: I also notice that nothing stops anyone else from repeating what you just did and also winning. I'm sure a lot of people see this. And yet nobody's doing it. It sort of looks like nobody cares. I understood ais523's judgement to

Re: BUS: Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJ 3381 assigned to ais523

2013-08-12 Thread Fool
On 12/08/2013 11:44 PM, Ørjan Johansen wrote: On Mon, 12 Aug 2013, Fool wrote in response to Craig Daniel: I also notice that nothing stops anyone else from repeating what you just did and also winning. I'm sure a lot of people see this. And yet nobody's doing it. It sort of looks like nobody

Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJ 3381 assigned to ais523

2013-08-06 Thread omd
On Tue, Aug 6, 2013 at 1:30 AM, omd c.ome...@gmail.com wrote: 00:53 tswett If a rule were to say if it is POSSIBLE to do X, then it is POSSIBLE to do Y, I think we would treat this as meaning something very different from if it is IMPOSSIBLE to do Y, then it is POSSIBLE to do

Re: BUS: Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJ 3381 assigned to ais523

2013-08-06 Thread Craig Daniel
On Tue, Aug 6, 2013 at 2:25 PM, Alex Smith ais...@bham.ac.uk wrote: On Tue, 2013-08-06 at 10:24 -0400, Craig Daniel wrote: The above is intended primarily to weigh in on the subject of the success of Fool's scam. However, just in case it was buggy (case 2 or 4 above), I submit the following

Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJ 3381 assigned to ais523

2013-08-05 Thread Tanner Swett
Alternative, far shorter argument for TRUE: Fool's alleged conditions were circular and therefore meaningless. –Machiavelli, whose dash seems to be rather short at the moment

Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJ 3381 assigned to ais523

2013-08-05 Thread Max Schutz
I was looking at it more like a stack than a circle but then again stack is more of a magic the gathering thing though it does work in this case On Tue, Aug 6, 2013 at 1:21 AM, Tanner Swett swe...@mail.gvsu.edu wrote: Alternative, far shorter argument for TRUE: Fool's alleged conditions were

Re: BUS: Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJ 3381 assigned to ais523

2013-08-05 Thread Tanner Swett
The thing is, though, Fool doesn't really have a plan. E created the promises and then (allegedly) deregistered everyone else; now it doesn't matter what happens to the promises, because Fool's already finished. The fact that destroying one promise changes matters with regards to the other

Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJ 3381 assigned to ais523

2013-08-05 Thread omd
On Tue, Aug 6, 2013 at 1:02 AM, Tanner Swett swe...@mail.gvsu.edu wrote: Arguments: I'm not sure whether I agree with you or not. I agree that 00:53 tswett If a rule were to say if it is POSSIBLE to do X, then it is POSSIBLE to do Y, I think we would treat this as meaning

Re: BUS: Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJ 3381 assigned to ais523

2013-08-05 Thread Max Schutz
ok we can attack this from either side and still arrive at the same conclusion though you have to admit that timing of moves is a key element of gaming On Tue, Aug 6, 2013 at 1:28 AM, Tanner Swett swe...@mail.gvsu.edu wrote: The thing is, though, Fool doesn't really have a plan. E created the