Re: [Mageia-dev] repository cleanup

2012-01-22 Thread Guillaume Rousse
Le 22/01/2012 16:10, Pascal Terjan a écrit : On Sun, Jan 22, 2012 at 14:51, Guillaume Rousseguillomovi...@gmail.com wrote: Hello. I need an admin to remove the following packages from the package repository: - fusioninventory-agent-plugin-snmpquery source and binary packages (it has been

Re: [Mageia-dev] Is mageia a bit slow?

2012-01-18 Thread Guillaume Rousse
Le 18/01/2012 13:53, Michel Catudal a écrit : Any clue what is responsible for the speed issue on magia? Scientific Linux or Redhat Enterprise superior or newer gcc slower? Are you sure you're using a comparable build environement, meaning similar harware and similar file system, and you're not

Re: [Mageia-dev] please stop doing bugs for updating magia 1

2012-01-12 Thread Guillaume Rousse
Le 12/01/2012 10:27, Antoine Pitrou a écrit : Each packager can decide if their upstream package is well-behaved or not. Of course, better be conservative and not package bugfix releases if you aren't totally confident. Still, some upstream teams *are* well-behaved. Some means actually a very

Re: [Mageia-dev] packaging help required

2012-01-12 Thread Guillaume Rousse
Le 12/01/2012 14:14, D.Morgan a écrit : can you make a src.rpm available somewhere for us to look ? ( we should be able to help with gil on the java packaging related issues ) You can fetch spec and source files here: https://github.com/jenkinsci/jenkins/tree/master/rpm -- BOFH excuse #258:

Re: [Mageia-dev] please stop doing bugs for updating magia 1

2012-01-10 Thread Guillaume Rousse
Le 10/01/2012 19:12, Christian Lohmaier a écrit : And using a fixed upstream release surely is preferable over adding patches manually, isn't it? No. Adding bugfix-specific patches ensure you just fix specific issues, whereas updating software version usually doesn't offer any kind of garanty

Re: [Mageia-dev] mentors + apprentices

2012-01-09 Thread Guillaume Rousse
Le 01/01/2012 03:11, Josh King a écrit : On 12/31/2011 02:29 AM, andre999 wrote: Florian Hubold a écrit : According to https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Becoming_a_Mageia_Packager#Mentoring_team he is already mentored by guillomovitch, or is that incorrect? sorry I overlooked that, from many months

Re: [Mageia-dev] mentors + apprentices

2012-01-09 Thread Guillaume Rousse
Le 09/01/2012 07:04, andre999 a écrit : cyprix (Sam Bailey) He is a long time Mandriva then Mageia user, who runs hosting servers in his work, and is interested in packaging programs for hosting and web-app services. I can mentor him (as everyone else intested in servers applications in

[Mageia-dev] packaging help required

2012-01-09 Thread Guillaume Rousse
Hello list. I've had a look at jenkins, which is an interesting continuous integration build bot. But it's yet another piece^H^H^Henterprise-grade java application, and the currently available packages (http://pkg.jenkins-ci.org/redhat/) exhibit all classical problems: - no building from

Re: [Mageia-dev] RFT: xen support

2012-01-09 Thread Guillaume Rousse
Le 09/01/2012 10:26, Thierry Vignaud a écrit : On 11 April 2011 10:33, Thomas Backlundt...@iki.fi wrote: And as of kernel-2.6.38.2-4.mga1 there has been some cleanups and addons for xen: There is now a kernel-xen-pvops that also should work as dom0. Now this is mostly upstream kenel.org code

Re: [Mageia-dev] RFT: xen support

2012-01-09 Thread Guillaume Rousse
Le 09/01/2012 11:06, Thierry Vignaud a écrit : On 9 January 2012 10:49, Guillaume Rousseguillomovi...@gmail.com wrote: And as of kernel-2.6.38.2-4.mga1 there has been some cleanups and addons for xen: There is now a kernel-xen-pvops that also should work as dom0. Now this is mostly upstream

Re: [Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release perl-FusionInventory-Agent-2.1.13-1.mga2

2012-01-09 Thread Guillaume Rousse
Le 09/01/2012 11:31, jquelin a écrit : [..] jquelinjquelin 2.1.13-1.mga2: + Revision: 193899 - imported package perl-FusionInventory-Agent This package already exists as 'fusioninventory-agent'.

Re: [Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release roundcubemail-0.7.1-1.mga2

2012-01-09 Thread Guillaume Rousse
Le 09/01/2012 19:45, Thierry Vignaud a écrit : On 9 January 2012 19:25, damsbuildsystem-dae...@mageia.org wrote: RoundCube Webmail is a browser-based multilingual IMAP client with an application-like user interface. It provides full functionality you expect from an e-mail client, including

Re: [Mageia-dev] Orphans - those poor orphans . . .

2012-01-08 Thread Guillaume Rousse
Le 07/01/2012 11:14, ptyxs a écrit : Le 06/01/2012 17:55, Colin Guthrie a écrit : 'Twas brillig, and Robert Fox at 06/01/12 10:16 did gyre and gimble: After latest Cauldron updates, I got a real long list of suggested orphans - but I believe some of these packages are needed (like hal or

Re: [Mageia-dev] Orphans - those poor orphans . . .

2012-01-06 Thread Guillaume Rousse
Le 06/01/2012 16:13, Wolfgang Bornath a écrit : Ah, I see your reasoning, of course, if the packager forgot to name the requires then urpmi declares them as orphans. But then, to be safe, you have to forget about auto-orphans altogether because you can not be sure that all packagers did their

Re: [Mageia-dev] RFC: task-obsolete and README.*.urpmi enhancement

2012-01-05 Thread Guillaume Rousse
Le 04/01/2012 20:13, Luc Menut a écrit : Le 04/01/2012 17:20, Guillaume Rousse a écrit : 1) add support for optional README.*.urpmi (%ghost in spec): This will allow to build this README.*.urpmi at install time in %pre, %post or %trigger only when it's necessary. That will create files

Re: [Mageia-dev] [packages-commits] [189967] - version upgrade

2012-01-05 Thread Guillaume Rousse
Le 05/01/2012 20:36, Matteo a écrit : -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Il 03/01/2012 17:30, Guillaume Rousse ha scritto: Le 03/01/2012 17:18, Jani Välimaa a écrit : @@ -11,7 +11,7 @@ Group:System/Kernel and hardware BuildRoot: %{_tmppath}/%{name}-%{version

Re: [Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release dsniff-2.4-0.b1.1.mga2

2012-01-04 Thread Guillaume Rousse
Le 03/01/2012 22:05, Anssi Hannula a écrit : On 02.01.2012 12:21, guillomovitch wrote: Name: dsniff Relocations: (not relocatable) Version : 2.4 Vendor: Mageia.Org Release : 0.b1.1.mga2 Build Date: Mon Jan 2

Re: [Mageia-dev] External monitor resolution probing broken since this morning

2012-01-04 Thread Guillaume Rousse
Le 03/01/2012 18:17, Anssi Hannula a écrit : Does the Xorg.0.log contain a modelist and/or raw EDID data? If so, do those look correct? (you can use e.g. monitor-parse-edid or just paste here) The modelines listed in xorg.0.log match xrandr output: [ 6014.632] (II) intel(0): EDID for output

Re: [Mageia-dev] External monitor resolution probing broken since this morning

2012-01-04 Thread Guillaume Rousse
Le 04/01/2012 11:42, Guillaume Rousse a écrit : What's interesting, tough, is that xrandr --prop only has EDID output for the laptop panel (LVDS1), not for the external screen. After switching to another DVI plug on the monitor, and switching back to the original one, everything went back

Re: [Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release dsniff-2.4-0.b1.1.mga2

2012-01-04 Thread Guillaume Rousse
Le 04/01/2012 14:18, Johnny A. Solbu a écrit : On Wednesday 04 January 2012 10:54, Michael Scherer wrote: I think we agreed that people could not care about upgrade path from Mandriva. So, people like me who still run 2010.2 on many systems and later on would like to move to mga2 should

Re: [Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release dsniff-2.4-0.b1.1.mga2

2012-01-04 Thread Guillaume Rousse
Le 04/01/2012 15:16, Anssi Hannula a écrit : On 04.01.2012 11:54, Michael Scherer wrote: Le mercredi 04 janvier 2012 à 11:03 +0200, Thomas Backlund a écrit : Anssi Hannula skrev 3.1.2012 23:05: On 02.01.2012 12:21, guillomovitch wrote: Name: dsniff Relocations:

Re: [Mageia-dev] RFC: task-obsolete and README.*.urpmi enhancement

2012-01-04 Thread Guillaume Rousse
Le 04/01/2012 16:53, Luc Menut a écrit : Hello, We have recently discussed here about task-obsolete. http://www.mail-archive.com/mageia-dev@mageia.org/msg09762.html https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3786 I like the idea. But I think that we need to inform the user about the package(s)

Re: [Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release dsniff-2.4-0.b1.1.mga2

2012-01-04 Thread Guillaume Rousse
Le 04/01/2012 18:05, Thomas Backlund a écrit : That does not mean we should intentionally break upgrades either. I wonder how much energy will be wasted replying to this thread before someone fix the package directly... -- BOFH excuse #388: Bad user karma.

Re: [Mageia-dev] Adding additional provides to php database modules

2012-01-04 Thread Guillaume Rousse
Le 04/01/2012 20:08, Oliver Burger a écrit : The only problem here is that, pdo aside, there is no unified database interface in php. Some applications may have explicit support for some databases, this doesn't mean they have generic support for any database. You're likely to quickly run into

[Mageia-dev] External monitor resolution probing broken since this morning

2012-01-03 Thread Guillaume Rousse
Since this morning, I can't get resolutions higher than 1024*768 on my external monitor (VGA1), whereas I usuallu have 1920*1200: Screen 0: minimum 320 x 200, current 2048 x 768, maximum 8192 x 8192 LVDS1 connected 1024x768+0+0 (normal left inverted right x axis y axis) 261mm x 163mm

Re: [Mageia-dev] [packages-commits] [189967] - version upgrade

2012-01-03 Thread Guillaume Rousse
Le 03/01/2012 17:18, Jani Välimaa a écrit : @@ -11,7 +11,7 @@ Group:System/Kernel and hardware BuildRoot: %{_tmppath}/%{name}-%{version}-%{release}-buildroot URL: http://www.codemonkey.org.uk/projects/x86info/ -Source0:

Re: [Mageia-dev] Adding additional provides to php database modules

2011-12-28 Thread Guillaume Rousse
Le 19/12/2011 03:02, Thomas Spuhler a écrit : Could you please explain a little more what you are looking for. PHP provides the php-mysql and php-pdo-mysql He wants to add a php-database virtual package, provided by the different php database bindings. The only problem here is that, pdo

Re: [Mageia-dev] How broken are RPM dependencies allowed to be?

2011-12-15 Thread Guillaume Rousse
Le 15/12/2011 10:36, Dan Fandrich a écrit : On Wed, Dec 14, 2011 at 11:37:37PM +0100, nicolas vigier wrote: Versionned dependencies are added when they are needed to allow correct updates on stable release or upgrades from one release to an other (installing all available updates, not only some

Re: [Mageia-dev] pixmap

2011-12-14 Thread Guillaume Rousse
Le 13/12/2011 23:27, jcc a écrit : Hello, In a spec file, to install icons, if you copy the image in xpm format in /usr/share/pixmap how do you update the image? I search a command like %{_bindir}/gtk-update-icon-cache -q %{_datadir}/icons/hicolor; but for a pixmap image. This update the gtk

Re: [Mageia-dev] How broken are RPM dependencies allowed to be?

2011-12-14 Thread Guillaume Rousse
Le 14/12/2011 10:14, Dan Fandrich a écrit : On Wed, Dec 14, 2011 at 09:49:15AM +0200, Buchan Milne wrote: This is unsupported. Maybe you should instead contribute documentation that makes this more explicitly obvious, but it is a well-known rule in Mandriva and Mageia (and usually applies to

Re: [Mageia-dev] Problem with $MIRRORLIST ?

2011-12-14 Thread Guillaume Rousse
Le 13/12/2011 03:59, Charles A Edwards a écrit : For the past 2 days there appears to be an issue if using $MIRRORLIST urpmi bails with the following: 'Could not find a mirror from mirrorlist $MIRRORLIST' Unless you got a laptop, moving between very different networks, and downloading very

[Mageia-dev] gnome: trouble with keyboard shortcut

2011-11-29 Thread Guillaume Rousse
Since last week, multimedia keys seems to be ignored under gnome: no more OSD display, and no more effect on mixer. The same is true for other keyboard shortcut: ctrl+alt+l, which is supposed to lock screen, doesn't work either. Everything works fine under XFCE. I have no clue about which

Re: [Mageia-dev] %ldflags, a shared library (xchat-plugin)

2011-11-28 Thread Guillaume Rousse
Le 28/11/2011 05:42, Kamil Rytarowski a écrit : So I've extracted the parameters for gcc from %ldflags and removed -Wl,--no-undefined. The current line is: gcc -Wl,--as-needed -Wl,--no-undefined -Wl,-z,relro -Wl,-O1 -Wl,--build-id -Wl,--enable-new-dtags -Wl,--export-dynamic -Wall -O1 -shared

Re: [Mageia-dev] Teamviewer and X86_64 build . . .

2011-11-28 Thread Guillaume Rousse
Le 28/11/2011 11:28, Kamil Rytarowski a écrit : There were a few requests for TeamViewer in my local Mageia site - I suggest to add it to our repositories (probably as tainted and as a downloading script). They are better ways to contribute to the distribution than helping 'poor little users'

Re: [Mageia-dev] Teamviewer and X86_64 build . . .

2011-11-28 Thread Guillaume Rousse
Le 28/11/2011 11:45, Robert Fox a écrit : There a few key proprietary softwares which make the Linux work a bit easier to integrate and play nice with the others . . . Like Skype, Picasa Teamviewer (to name a few). Other distros get this (like Linux Mint!):

Re: [Mageia-dev] Unable to boot into kernel-3.1.3

2011-11-28 Thread Guillaume Rousse
Le 28/11/2011 15:00, Kira a écrit : Error message: /bin/systemctl: error while loading shared libraries: libsystemd-daemon.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory. It seems something relating to drm Or to the men in black from the government. More

[Mageia-dev] non-working uninstall trigger

2011-11-26 Thread Guillaume Rousse
Hello list. bash-completion now uses dynamic function loading, making symlinks from /etc/bash_completion.d directory useless. I tried to reuse a post-install cleanup procedure based on trigger, so as to be fired only once during 1.2 - 1.90 update: triggerpostun scriptlet (using /bin/sh) --

[Mageia-dev] removing .la files harmful ?

2011-11-26 Thread Guillaume Rousse
Hello list. I can't rebuild ntop anymore, due to missing libxml2.la file, which seems to be required by libtool: /bin/sh ./libtool --tag=CC --mode=link gcc -O2 -g -pipe -Wformat -Werror=format-security -Wp,-D_FORTIFY_SOURCE=2 -fstack-protector --param=ssp-buffer-size=4

Re: [Mageia-dev] Changing default media names

2011-11-21 Thread Guillaume Rousse
Le 21/11/2011 01:51, Maarten Vanraes a écrit : in short: let rpmdrake show this short description (which looks more or less like the current name, but clearer) where the current name is now and i'm ok with this proposal. Better formulation: let's use different strings for different purposes,

Re: [Mageia-dev] perl-ExtUtils-XSpp-0.160.200-2.mga2

2011-11-21 Thread Guillaume Rousse
Le 21/11/2011 15:23, Jerome Quelin a écrit : hi, On 11/11/21 15:12 +0100, Sandro CAZZANIGA wrote: If someone have the time in the afternoon, we have a little bug in /usr/binxspp (which is a part of perl-ExtUtils-XSpp): */usr/bin/xspp : /usr/bin/perl5.14.1 : mauvais interpréteur: Aucun fichier

Re: [Mageia-dev] BuildRequires and pkgconfig

2011-11-16 Thread Guillaume Rousse
Le 16/11/2011 00:11, jcc a écrit : Hi, I do not quite understand why with BuildRequires and Requires, it is sometimes necessary to place a pkgconfig(any_lib) instead of simply any_libin the spec file. If you have a dependency for any_lib, you'll only get the runtime part of the lib. If you

Re: [Fusioninventory-devel] Adding power devices support to Fusion Inventory

2011-11-15 Thread Guillaume Rousse
Le 15/11/2011 15:30, Arnaud Quette a écrit : So, would you be interested in working with me on this topic? How can we proceed? Which kind of integration would be best, ie providing a formated files, or using languages binding or program calls? Hellp Arnaud. This is quite interesting idea.

Re: [Bash-completion-devel] [SCM] bash-completion branch, master, updated. 1.3-512-g9717124

2011-11-09 Thread Guillaume Rousse
Le 07/11/2011 20:27, Ville Skyttä a écrit : Ah, true for chkconfig, but for service that seems to be a Mandriva specific thing/patch. It doesn't do xinetd stuff on Fedora, Debian, OpenSUSE or CentOS. I'd like to get those things out of the way for non-Mandriva setups for service -- is checking

Re: [Bash-completion-devel] [SCM] bash-completion branch, master, updated. 1.3-512-g9717124

2011-11-07 Thread Guillaume Rousse
Le 07/11/2011 17:41, Ville Skyttä a écrit : On 11/07/2011 05:12 PM, Igor Murzov wrote: I pushed new variant of the fix to the service branch. Can you look into it? I didn't look into the code that closely, but it works as expected in all test cases I threw at it, cool. The branch seems to be

Re: [Mageia-dev] Proposal for bug statuses and workflow

2011-10-20 Thread Guillaume Rousse
Le 20/10/2011 10:26, Romain d'Alverny a écrit : If the RESOLVED status in Bugzilla had been understood as SOLVED, then RESOLVED - FIXED would be a pleonasm. You can solve a problem differently than fixing it, for instance by claiming it is not a problem, or that it is too old to really care.

Re: [Mageia-dev] [packages-commits] [155472] added 2.14.2 sources

2011-10-17 Thread Guillaume Rousse
Le 17/10/2011 02:36, Johnny A. Solbu a écrit : On Monday 17 October 2011 01:04, Pascal Terjan wrote: The Oops line is not useful to someone reading the changelog. It just means that you used two commits to Update patches instead of one, that does not need to appear in changelog so should be

Re: [Mageia-dev] mageia 2 and systemd

2011-10-14 Thread Guillaume Rousse
Le 14/10/2011 08:53, Shlomi Fish a écrit : On Wed, 12 Oct 2011 21:00:58 +0200 philippe makowskimakowski.mag...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, how and when will we make the move ? should we need to provide native systemd service files for Mageia 2 ? some doc from Fedora for packaging :

Re: [Mageia-dev] mageia 2 and systemd

2011-10-13 Thread Guillaume Rousse
Le 13/10/2011 10:08, philippe makowski a écrit : 2011/10/13 Thomas Backlundt...@mageia.org: No, it's not mandatory. (but yes we forced it for now on Cauldron to get more systemd testers) For Mageia 2 we will support both initscripts and systemd ok any howto available ? no where do we put

Re: [Mageia-dev] mageia 2 and systemd

2011-10-13 Thread Guillaume Rousse
Le 13/10/2011 11:29, Colin Guthrie a écrit : 'Twas brillig, and Guillaume Rousse at 13/10/11 09:44 did gyre and gimble: Le 13/10/2011 10:08, philippe makowski a écrit : what do we do with %_post_service and %_preun_service ? Those macros will have to be enhanced to handle new behaviours

Re: [Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release drupal-7.8-1.mga2

2011-10-12 Thread Guillaume Rousse
Le 12/10/2011 11:52, Mageia Team a écrit : - added patches for .htaccess and shebang removal patching is not the easiest way to do remove .htaccess files, and doesn't offer any garanty all relevant files are removed, especially as the software evolves. You'd better do it from the spec file

Re: [Mageia-dev] Fwd: Distress signal for resolving issue with Drakxnet tools

2011-10-12 Thread Guillaume Rousse
Le 12/10/2011 10:39, Samuel Verschelde a écrit : forwarded from mageia-discuss It would be great if someone mastering wireless network issues could at least have a look to the bug report. As for every other problem involving drakxtools (or any other configuration tool), it would help to test

Re: [Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release drupal-7.8-1.mga2

2011-10-12 Thread Guillaume Rousse
Le 12/10/2011 13:02, Oliver Burger a écrit : Am Mittwoch, 12. Oktober 2011, 12:31:31 schrieb Guillaume Rousse: Le 12/10/2011 11:52, Mageia Team a écrit : - added patches for .htaccess and shebang removal patching is not the easiest way to do remove .htaccess files, and doesn't offer any

Re: [Mageia-dev] drupal - changes

2011-10-10 Thread Guillaume Rousse
Le 09/10/2011 12:21, Oliver Burger a écrit : Hi, I've taken maintainership of drupal (since it was unmaintained and I will have to use it at work in the future) and am about to change some things: First I'm cleaning it up a bit. As it is, the package doesn't work out of the box, the webserver

Re: [Mageia-dev] About syslinux libpng

2011-10-07 Thread Guillaume Rousse
Le 07/10/2011 01:44, Michael Scherer a écrit : So far, the 2 arguments ( or at least, those that I understood ) are : - there is others problem, so why should we fix this one ? Which is just a bad reason. - that's intrusive, that translate to we have to maintain it and that take ressources,

Re: [Mageia-dev] Detailed version of the Mageia Unmaintained Packages

2011-10-05 Thread Guillaume Rousse
Le 05/10/2011 01:44, Johnny A. Solbu a écrit : On Wednesday 05 October 2011 00:42, Kamil Rytarowski wrote: Nearly 3000 Mageia packages are on the unmaintained list. I've prepared more detailed version. I notice that, according to this list, rsh is still provided. Why? Isn't OpenSSH a

Re: [Fusioninventory-devel] Proposed enhancements/corrections

2011-10-04 Thread Guillaume Rousse
Le 04/10/2011 15:32, Oliver Tuschhoff a écrit : Dear FusionInventory-Team, thank you for providing such a great piece of software. While deploying the Agent into our environment I had to make several enhancements/corrections which I wanted to give back (against Version 2.1.10): Hello Olivier.

[Mageia-dev] systemd article in weekly LWN

2011-09-16 Thread Guillaume Rousse
For anyone intested on the topic: http://lwn.net/SubscriberLink/458789/9c3df60c179593b9/ -- BOFH excuse #155: Dumb terminal

Re: [Mageia-dev] Problems with X [Was: KDE doesn't start after last updates]

2011-09-16 Thread Guillaume Rousse
Le 09/09/2011 08:53, Oliver Burger a écrit : Am Freitag, 9. September 2011, 08:18:23 schrieb magnus: It seems to be a general problem with the X server. I can't login into any window manager/desktop anymore, strangely enough the dm itself does still work. Meaning that's likely not an X server

Re: [Mageia-dev] changing apache configuration handling

2011-09-16 Thread Guillaume Rousse
Le 15/09/2011 01:03, Maarten Vanraes a écrit : personally i prefer debian-style layout (it's even easy to change this as it's a configure flag). I would be all for moving to that kind of layout Everyone would, but as long as no one volonteers to achieve it, that's not likely to happen. So far

Re: [Mageia-dev] [Mageia-discuss] MANDATORY READ : 7 days before misc unleashes CERBERUS !

2011-09-16 Thread Guillaume Rousse
Le 15/09/2011 20:43, Maarten Vanraes a écrit : Op donderdag 15 september 2011 13:52:32 schreef Thierry Vignaud: On 14 September 2011 23:06, Samuel Verscheldesto...@laposte.net wrote: Misc has a proposal to solve this : the next first submitter to an unmaintained package will automatically get

Re: [Mageia-dev] [Mageia-discuss] MANDATORY READ : 7 days before misc unleashes CERBERUS !

2011-09-16 Thread Guillaume Rousse
Le 16/09/2011 11:47, Sander Lepik a écrit : 15.09.2011 21:43, Maarten Vanraes kirjutas: I have a script ready to set the last comittor (that's a full packager) as maintainer. perhaps it can be activated before the GREAT PURGE. That's not so good idea. What we maybe can do is that we send out a

Re: [Mageia-dev] systemd vs dm

2011-09-15 Thread Guillaume Rousse
Le 15/09/2011 06:53, JA Magallon a écrit : Hi... Well, I'm starting to fight systemd... First easy to describe problem (apart from many others I will try to spot...) dm starts before getty, finds the first usable tty (usually tty2), and gets that. Everything supposes it runs on tty7 (see

Re: [Mageia-dev] systemd vs dm

2011-09-15 Thread Guillaume Rousse
Le 15/09/2011 15:22, Colin Guthrie a écrit : 'Twas brillig, and Guillaume Rousse at 15/09/11 11:37 did gyre and gimble: Le 15/09/2011 07:26, JA Magallon a écrit : one:~# systemctl list-units -a --full | grep log console-kit-log-system-start.service loaded active exited Console System Startup

Re: [Mageia-dev] systemd issues

2011-09-15 Thread Guillaume Rousse
Le 15/09/2011 22:10, Scott Chevalley a écrit : I'm running up-to-date cauldron and enabled systemd and find that, while KDE works fine, booting never really finishes and I never get any tty's enabled. This is probably a systemd-plymouth interaction issue, see last comments at

[Mageia-dev] changing apache configuration handling

2011-09-14 Thread Guillaume Rousse
Hello list. Our current default apache module configuration files all starts with: IfDefine HAVE_FOOBAR loadModule FooBar /IfDefine This allow to be smart, and eventually run apache without installed modules, which seems a cool idea. However, it also requires to explicitely launch apache with

Re: [Mageia-dev] [changelog] cauldron core/release pixman-0.23.4-2.mga2

2011-09-14 Thread Guillaume Rousse
fwangfwang 0.23.4-2.mga2: + Revision: 143394 - drop .la files Well, if there is a consensus about removing them, a submission filter would be a good idea. -- BOFH excuse #367: Webmasters kidnapped by evil cult.

Re: [Mageia-dev] [RFC] debloating minimal system

2011-09-14 Thread Guillaume Rousse
Le 14/09/2011 13:40, Thierry Vignaud a écrit : Likewise due to widespread suggests among perl modules, we bring quite a lot of perl modules: urpmi - perl-Hal-Cdroms - Net-DBus - XML-Twig - XML-Parser - LWP - perl-libwww-perl - HTTP::Negotiate - HTTP::Negotiate - HTTP::Message Automatic

Re: [Mageia-dev] Review of security updates

2011-09-13 Thread Guillaume Rousse
Le 12/09/2011 22:03, Manuel Hiebel a écrit : ## Waiting/response of packager: * 1948 nagios 2011-06-28 15:41 CEST by Stew Benedict Modified: 2011-09-06 02:56 CEST guillomovitch * 2064 krb5 2011-07-07 15:44 CEST by Stew Benedict Modified:

Re: [Mageia-dev] Review of security updates

2011-09-13 Thread Guillaume Rousse
Le 13/09/2011 10:44, Samuel Verschelde a écrit : Le mardi 13 septembre 2011 09:17:17, Guillaume Rousse a écrit : Le 12/09/2011 22:03, Manuel Hiebel a écrit : ## Waiting/response of packager: * 1948 nagios 2011-06-28 15:41 CEST by Stew Benedict Modified: 2011-09-06

Re: [Mageia-dev] Review of security updates

2011-09-13 Thread Guillaume Rousse
Le 13/09/2011 12:15, Samuel Verschelde a écrit : Le mardi 13 septembre 2011 11:58:50, Guillaume Rousse a écrit : Le 13/09/2011 10:44, Samuel Verschelde a écrit : Le mardi 13 septembre 2011 09:17:17, Guillaume Rousse a écrit : Le 12/09/2011 22:03, Manuel Hiebel a écrit : ## Waiting

Re: [Mageia-dev] [changelog] cauldron core/release basesystem-1-4.mga2

2011-09-13 Thread Guillaume Rousse
Le 13/09/2011 21:17, Thierry Vignaud a écrit : On 13 September 2011 21:02, Thomas Backlundt...@mageia.org wrote: - require systemd-sysvinit instead of sysvinit in order to got more testing IMHO this should have been announced/warned on the ml before forcing the change on everyone. I did

[Mageia-dev] systemctl list-units output

2011-09-13 Thread Guillaume Rousse
Some services are missing from 'systemctl list-units --all' output, such as ntp-wait: [root@beria guillaume]# systemctl list-units --full --all | grep ntp ntpd.service loaded failed failed Network Time Service ntpdate.service loaded inactive dead

Re: [Mageia-dev] [ANN] rpm-4.9.1

2011-09-13 Thread Guillaume Rousse
Le 13/09/2011 23:11, D.Morgan a écrit : On Tue, Sep 13, 2011 at 5:52 PM, Thierry Vignaud thierry.vign...@gmail.com wrote: Hi rpm-4.9.1 has been pushed into core/updates_testing You're welcome to test it. I've tested with success: - live upgrade - a special build of drakx-installer (the

Re: [Mageia-dev] [RPM] cauldron core/release systemd-35-2.mga2

2011-09-09 Thread Guillaume Rousse
Le 09/09/2011 01:20, Mageia Team a écrit : dmorgandmorgan 35-2.mga2: + Revision: 141666 - add macros.systemd file for %{_unitdir} While quite useful, adding this macro to systemd make this package mandatory as a build dependency for the macro to be available... rpm macros should better get

[Mageia-dev] systemd and time management

2011-09-09 Thread Guillaume Rousse
Hello list. I don't know if it is a bug, or a local misconfiguration, but I can't have system clock set to the correct time at boot since switching to systemd. My hardware clock is set to locale time (this is a dual-boot host, and windows doesn't like UTC hw clock very much), but the clock is

Re: [Mageia-dev] more testing for systemd: defaulting to it

2011-09-09 Thread Guillaume Rousse
Le 09/09/2011 10:00, Andres Kaaber a écrit : I can also confirm the sound and network problem, but for me just loging out and back in fixes sond and knetmanager issue probably because networkmanager isn't enabled by default, as told in the README.urpmi message ? (OK, this behaviour ought to be

Re: [Mageia-dev] [RPM] cauldron core/release cups-1.4.8-1.mga2

2011-09-09 Thread Guillaume Rousse
Le 09/09/2011 00:02, Mageia Team a écrit : Name: cups Relocations: (not relocatable) Version : 1.4.8 Vendor: Mageia.Org Release : 1.mga2Build Date: Thu Sep 8 23:56:13 2011 Excepted the additional work

Re: [Mageia-dev] [RPM] cauldron core/release systemd-35-2.mga2

2011-09-09 Thread Guillaume Rousse
Le 09/09/2011 11:45, Colin Guthrie a écrit : 'Twas brillig, and D.Morgan at 09/09/11 08:49 did gyre and gimble: On Fri, Sep 9, 2011 at 9:32 AM, Guillaume Rousse guillomovi...@gmail.com wrote: Le 09/09/2011 01:20, Mageia Team a écrit : dmorgandmorgan 35-2.mga2: + Revision: 141666 - add

Re: [Mageia-dev] systemd and time management

2011-09-09 Thread Guillaume Rousse
Le 09/09/2011 11:36, Colin Guthrie a écrit : This page is probably your friend: http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/systemd/timedated Yes, I saw it also. But that's developer guide, not an end-user one -- BOFH excuse #110: The rolling stones concert down the road caused a brown out

Re: [Mageia-dev] [RPM] cauldron core/release mythtv-0.24.1-20110909.1.mga2

2011-09-09 Thread Guillaume Rousse
Le 09/09/2011 15:51, Thierry Vignaud a écrit : On 9 September 2011 15:19, Mageia Teambuildsystem-dae...@mageia.org wrote: colincolin 0.24.1-20110909.1.mga2: + Revision: 141864 - is deprecated. Replaced by file triggers. what is deprecated? proper changelog messages :) -- BOFH excuse

Re: [Mageia-dev] systemd ?

2011-09-08 Thread Guillaume Rousse
Le 08/09/2011 18:03, Dick Gevers a écrit : On Thu, 08 Sep 2011 23:40:11 +0800, Kira wrote about Re: [Mageia-dev] systemd ?: 在 Thu, 08 Sep 2011 23:23:48 +0800, Dick Geversdvgev...@xs4all.nl寫道: Hi, If I urpmi systemd, is it 'grown up' enough to automagically update all of Cauldron, or do I

[Mageia-dev] tracker...

2011-09-07 Thread Guillaume Rousse
Since this morning, a shiny piece of software I never opted to run not even to install is eating 99% of my cpu. I don't find any way to disable it (excepted killall...), and I can't even uninstall it: tracker is needed by libtracker libtracker is needed by libfolks libfolks is needed by

Re: [Mageia-dev] [RPM] cauldron core/release apache-conf-2.2.20-1.mga2

2011-09-06 Thread Guillaume Rousse
Le 06/09/2011 08:48, Mageia Team a écrit : Name: apache-conf Relocations: (not relocatable) Version : 2.2.20Vendor: Mageia.Org Release : 1.mga2Build Date: Tue Sep 6 08:45:13 2011 Install Date: (not installed)

Re: [Mageia-dev] Proposal: Deprecate draknetcenter+network init scripts after systemd becomes default.

2011-09-02 Thread Guillaume Rousse
Le 02/09/2011 09:48, Colin Guthrie a écrit : fighting intel driver issues - quite crashy), but to save e.g. any wifi passwords, you'd have to enter the root password. Which seems to be the rule for all shared connections for 0.9 branch. -- BOFH excuse #296: The hardware bus needs a new

Re: [Mageia-dev] [RPM] cauldron core/release apache-2.2.20-1.mga2

2011-09-01 Thread Guillaume Rousse
Le 01/09/2011 13:10, Mageia Team a écrit : guillomovitchguillomovitch 2.2.20-1.mga2: + Revision: 137516 - add missing LSB headers to htcacheclean init script The script handling the changelog need some serious fixes. Usually it cumulates the changes for several releases, while here it only

Re: [Mageia-dev] perl-Sys-Mmap package review

2011-08-31 Thread Guillaume Rousse
Le 31/08/2011 15:20, Barry Jackson a écrit : Hello, Would someone please review the attached src.rpm for the above, with a view to committing it. Here you have... You'd better use an author-neutral URL for the sources, such as

[Mageia-dev] Fwd: [RPM] cauldron core/release bind-9.8.0P4-1.mga2

2011-08-30 Thread Guillaume Rousse
guillomovitch guillomovitch 9.8.0P4-1.mga2: [..] - no need to build a non-threaded host binary, the threaded version works correctly According to https://qa.mandriva.com/show_bug.cgi?id=16855, there was an old issue with i586 build of the 'host' binary. As I only have x86_64 at hand, can

Re: [Mageia-dev] [PROPOSAL] (task-)mageia-packager - what should be inside?

2011-08-27 Thread Guillaume Rousse
On 27/08/2011 18:08, Michael Scherer wrote: And keychain is ( or was ) annoying, as it ask the key each time you log :/ ( didn't tested since a long time however ) This behaviour is configurable. Anyway, the whole added value of one package to just requires 8 others, when the target

Re: [Mageia-dev] Rpmlint configuration, false positives

2011-08-27 Thread Guillaume Rousse
On 27/08/2011 22:06, Florian Hubold wrote: I think the following are bogus, but i may be totally wrong: *strange-permission * for SOURCES and SPEC it complains if not 0644, why is that? rpmrebuild won't work if you can't read the files included in the source package after extracting them.

Re: [Mageia-dev] [RPM] cauldron core/release firefox-ext-add-on-compatibility-reporter-0.9-1.mga2

2011-08-26 Thread Guillaume Rousse
On 25/08/2011 21:03, Sander Lepik wrote: 25.08.2011 21:53, Maarten Vanraes kirjutas: i believe we should package as much extensions as possible. And if there is security hole in extension? Do you monitor all of them? Most of them get updated w/o big notice. We do not have people to monitor

Re: [Mageia-dev] [RPM] cauldron core/release firefox-ext-add-on-compatibility-reporter-0.9-1.mga2

2011-08-26 Thread Guillaume Rousse
On 26/08/2011 09:50, Sander Lepik wrote: 26.08.2011 10:27, Guillaume Rousse kirjutas: I don't see where it is stated than firefox can't get updated until all extensions in the distributions work with it. I would call it a regression that shouldn't pass QA. One day your ads ands scripts

Re: [Mageia-dev] [134638] - clean spec

2011-08-25 Thread Guillaume Rousse
On 25/08/2011 08:50, Thierry Vignaud wrote: Err... Sorry I didn't meant to embarrass you, I was just defending against the unfair jbj comparison The comparison was only about the ugly '@mdv' usage, and was perfectly fair :) -- BOFH excuse #383: Your processor has taken a ride to Heaven's

Re: [Mageia-dev] Suggest summary documentation of Mageia perl routines

2011-08-24 Thread Guillaume Rousse
On 24/08/2011 13:28, Thierry Vignaud wrote: at mga as well as set up perl_checker mails again in order to auto catch bugs) perl_checker doesn't catch bugs, but violations to an hard-coded coding style policy, which is quite different... -- BOFH excuse #174: Backbone adjustment

Re: [Mageia-dev] New version of mgarepo

2011-08-23 Thread Guillaume Rousse
On 22/08/2011 15:59, Thierry Vignaud wrote: btw as the config file was tagged as config(noreplace), upgrade breaks until one fix his config file. not that a big deal but that should be warned, or config(noreplace) should be replaced by config() One could expect than packagers know how

Re: [Mageia-dev] Suggest summary documentation of Mageia perl routines

2011-08-23 Thread Guillaume Rousse
On 23/08/2011 00:02, andre999 wrote: I'm talking about a concise programmer's guide, and not something suitable for end-users. And not something describing the perl language itself, for which there are plenty of references. That's been asked for for just 10 years now. As long as no one

Re: [Mageia-dev] %{foo} vs. %foo

2011-08-23 Thread Guillaume Rousse
On 22/08/2011 23:58, andre999 wrote: Especially in a context like perl, it would make it a lot easier to follow the code. (Particulary for someone not totally familiar with perl, like myself.) So that has my vote :) This is an rpm macro, not perl code. Underlying implementation doesn't matter

Re: [Mageia-dev] New version of mgarepo

2011-08-23 Thread Guillaume Rousse
On 23/08/2011 11:37, nicolas vigier wrote: On Tue, 23 Aug 2011, Guillaume Rousse wrote: On 22/08/2011 15:59, Thierry Vignaud wrote: btw as the config file was tagged as config(noreplace), upgrade breaks until one fix his config file. not that a big deal but that should be warned, or config

Re: [Mageia-dev] Proposal: Deprecate draknetcenter+network init scripts after systemd becomes default.

2011-08-23 Thread Guillaume Rousse
On 23/08/2011 12:26, Colin Guthrie wrote: How would removing initscripts support helps enhancing networkmanager integration ? Because the current philosophy of the Unix legacy is lots of individual utils from various packages cobbled together with some glue shell scripting code... and it's

Re: [Mageia-dev] [134638] - clean spec

2011-08-23 Thread Guillaume Rousse
On 23/08/2011 17:34, Thierry Vignaud wrote: And then a mass update commit like the ones I did before enforcing new rpmlint checks back @mdv Argh, jbj-speak... -- BOFH excuse #4: static from nylon underwear

Re: [W3af-users] unable to spider application beyond authentication form

2011-08-23 Thread Guillaume Rousse
On 23/08/2011 16:29, Guillaume Rousse wrote: Hello list. I tried to use w3af on a web application for which I do have admin credentials. I forgot the following information: w3af 1.0, on linux platform. -- BOFH excuse #185: system consumed all the paper for paging

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