Re: GUI and Back release

2024-05-29 Thread Riccardo Mottola
Hi! Richard Frith-Macdonald wrote: Tanks. I just did make, base, gui and back releases on github. Wonderful. If you upload them on FTP I will update the webpage links! Riccardo

Re: new certificates using apple-pki-bundle

2024-05-28 Thread Riccardo Mottola via macports-users
Eric Gallager wrote: I think that the `certsync` port (alternative to curl-ca-bundle) is supposed to help with this... I have curl-ca-bundle installed. Should I remove it? I read the description Export x509 CAs from the Mac OS X Keychain. The package implements exporting of x509 CAs from

Thank you!

2024-05-28 Thread Riccardo Mottola via macports-users
Hi, I always write about issues, problems... etc etc... because that is what we do on the mailing list, seek support and improvement for old and older mac versions. My MacBook Pro's HD broke, I had to reinstall from scratch. It went out 99% smooth! Just one package needed a nudge on

Re: xcode not found while building

2024-05-28 Thread Riccardo Mottola via macports-users
Hi Joshua, Ryan, Joshua Root wrote: So make sure you checked oute4b3d80 and not an earlier commit where the version was 8.1 155. If use_xcode is already in the Portfile you're using, you probably need to run xcode-select. thanks you hinted me to the correct statement. I did check out a

Re: Something has recently changed to break the build...

2024-05-28 Thread Riccardo Mottola
Hi Richard, Richard Frith-Macdonald wrote: I want to make a release ... is this going to block it? Please could you re-check making sure that you are using current code from the repository and that you have re-run configure no, go and release. Issue solved. I was on latest already, but for

strange issues with building ArcticFox - full rebuilds everytime

2024-05-28 Thread Riccardo Mottola
Hi, I build ArcticFox from source - I am the main developer :) I noticed a strange behavior on NetBSD not present on other platforms. "mach build" does a full rebuild even if nothing changed. This doesn't happen on Linux. I noticed this 100% on NetBSD/sparc64 and NetBSD/ppc. On these system,

Re: Something has recently changed to break the build...

2024-05-27 Thread Riccardo Mottola
Hi, Gregory Casamento wrote: I was building on github.com .  RFM has fixed it... It builds fine on my machine, but just for the record... Debian 12, clang 14 hmm... On old Debian with gcc all works. However, I think this caused a regresion, a GCC build on NetBSD causes:

xcode not found while building

2024-05-26 Thread Riccardo Mottola via macports-users
Hi, MacVim is difficult to build, I want to get a version build on older versions of MacOS. I am trying to get a version building on 10.11. The current versions and most previous versions don't build, because XCode 8 is expected. I have XCode 7.3.1 Going back in history I got to 8.1 155

Re: GNUmail and PureOS

2024-05-26 Thread Riccardo Mottola
Hi Paul, On 2024-05-26 07:20:18 +0200 paul deveson wrote: > Hi, > > I have seen sites that recommend for PureOS. I have Librem5.  How do I > install via terminal? > > When I have tried by terminal, I am told "Gnome 3.28 runtimes are no longer > supported". "Freedesktop 1.6 is no longer

Re: framebuffer console on old ATI

2024-05-24 Thread Riccardo Mottola
Hi, John D. Baker wrote: Interesting that this works for you. I have several machines with the ATI ES1000 rev. 0x02 (RN50) video device: HP DL380G5, HP ML310G4, IBM x3650, Dell PowerEdge 2850 and they all exhibit the "almost-black-on-black" video problem when booting a kernel built with the

Re: framebuffer console on old ATI

2024-05-24 Thread Riccardo Mottola
Hi Martin, Martin Neitzel wrote: A zillion thanks to John Baker for mailing this! I changed this on my old HP Proliant DL360 G6 with its ATI ES1000 (RV100) onboard graphics two weeks ago and --voila-- instant karma! I envy you! I have a newer chip but it still doesn't like to run :)

Re: intel videocard performance degraded severely after 9.4 update

2024-05-23 Thread Riccardo Mottola
Sorry for the multiple-posts.. apparently SeaMonkey sent out drafts while I was composing the message! Very strange.

Re: framebuffer console on old ATI

2024-05-23 Thread Riccardo Mottola
Hi John sorry for the late reply... needed some NetBSD hack time to find to patch and recompile the kernel. John D. Baker wrote: > On Tue, 7 May 2024, Riccardo Mottola wrote: > > That looks like the same description of the radeon device in my T42 > ThinkPad: IN some sense the T43

Re: framebuffer console on old ATI

2024-05-23 Thread Riccardo Mottola
Hi, Michael wrote: > Did it crash or did if continue booting? If it continued to boot > radeonfb likely got the wiring of outputs to displays wrong. > With that, please try with options RADEONFB_BIOS_INIT, which adds code > to scan the BIOS for output info. This is not enabled by default >

Re: intel videocard performance degraded severely after 9.4 update

2024-05-23 Thread Riccardo Mottola
Hi, trying and testing... I can get even more scarier errors from i915. I tried various combination of enabling wifi before/after As you can see, the buffer underrun appears after some moments, after I completed login. So we have 1) CPU Pipe A FIFO underrun 2) CPU Pipe B FIFO underrun 3)

Re: intel videocard performance degraded severely after 9.4 update

2024-05-23 Thread Riccardo Mottola
Hi, nia wrote: > What are the permissions on /dev/dri/*? > > Does your user have the ability to write to the devices? it should: R51$ ls -l /dev/dri* total 0 crw-rw 1 root wheel 180, 0 Aug 8 2018 card0 crw-rw 1 root wheel 180, 1 Aug 8 2018 card1 crw-rw 1 root wheel

Re: new certificates using apple-pki-bundle

2024-05-21 Thread Riccardo Mottola via macports-users
Hi, Nils Breunese wrote: >> what certificates do you use with apple-pki-bundle? I got those from curl >> (cacert.pem from https://curl.se/docs/caextract.html) >> On old Macs in Safari even a simple page like wikipedia is not loadable, I >> thought it is a certificate issue, but it did not help.

new certificates using apple-pki-bundle

2024-05-17 Thread Riccardo Mottola via macports-users
Hi, what certificates do you use with apple-pki-bundle? I got those from curl (cacert.pem from https://curl.se/docs/caextract.html) On old Macs in Safari even a simple page like wikipedia is not loadable, I thought it is a certificate issue, but it did not help. Firefox has its own. Perhaps

Re: [OT] bad disk & MacOS reinstall

2024-05-17 Thread Riccardo Mottola via macports-users
Hi, Horst Simon wrote: I had todo a re-install on my 2010 MacBook Pro with High Sierra from scratch, my copy of High sierra I had was corrupted and caused my all kind of grief. I finally downloaded a new copy on my iMac using the command line Got a new disk. Using recovery partition I tried

Re: i386 - 10.0 gecko browsers

2024-05-16 Thread Riccardo Mottola
Hi Benny! Benny Siegert wrote: According to the latest bulk build data (https://releng.netbsd.org/bulktracker/build/724/www/), Firefox 123 failed to build, Firefox 115 also failed to build but Firefox 102 was OK. So in principle, there should be a firefox102 package. Oh! I will check... an

Re: where does pkg_admin come from?

2024-05-15 Thread Riccardo Mottola
Hi, Jeremy C. Reed wrote: I cannot update/replpace packages because make_replace complains with pkg_admin error, but maybe I can find the beginning of this vicious loop. Do you also have /usr/sbin/pkg_* ? Your/usr/pkg/ versions are from the pkg_install package. Maybe just remove that

where does pkg_admin come from?

2024-05-14 Thread Riccardo Mottola
Hi! I upgraded from 8.2 to 9.4 To conserve space, I had to clean up obsolete libraries in /lib, by sparcstation is old and has a small disk) whenI try to upgrade packages, i get this error:  /usr/pkg/sbin/pkg_admin: Shared object "libssl.so.12" not found we are now at

sbuild of python2.7 - fails for crazy dependencies

2024-05-10 Thread Riccardo Mottola
Hi, brief summary: --- sudo sbuild-createchroot unstable debian-powerpc --arch=powerpc --include=debian-ports-archive-keyring --keyring /usr/share/keyrings/debian-ports-archive-keyring.gpg http://ftp.ports.debian.org/debian-ports dget

Re: setting up a sbuild chroot - which key?

2024-05-10 Thread Riccardo Mottola
Hi, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: Yes, you need “buildd”. Oh, I thought that buildd was only for participating in debian build not for local builds. So let me retry: sudo sbuild-createchroot unstable debian-powerpc --arch=powerpc --variant=buildd --include=debian-ports-archive-keyring

Re: setting up a sbuild chroot - which key?

2024-05-09 Thread Riccardo Mottola
Hi, perhaps I'm loosing myself in a glass of water here. John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: You include the keyring when creating the chroot using the "--include" option: # sbuild-createchroot unstable /srv/chroot/unstable-powerpc \ --arch=powerpc --variant=buildd

Re: intel videocard performance degraded severely after 9.4 update

2024-05-09 Thread Riccardo Mottola
Hi, John McCue wrote: > > I have a R52e and the internal wifi does now work with the > router provided by my ISP (comcast).  I believe a "Edimax > N150" dongle may work, but I have not tried it yet. Maybe you have a different card... IBM/Lenovo inserted "equivalent" cards (for windows) but it

Re: NetBSD 10 and unreliable git

2024-05-09 Thread Riccardo Mottola
Hi, I think the situation is a little more complex and there may be some network card bug. Below my reasoning. Martin Husemann wrote: > I have never seen that (neither on 10.0 nor on -current). It is very > hard to tell what causes the errors for you. Two potential reasons > would be network

intel videocard performance degraded severely after 9.4 update

2024-05-08 Thread Riccardo Mottola
Hi, I updated my trusty R52 ThinkPad to 9.4 - i915. All went quite well. wifi is unreliable - but that is most probably the same isue I have on the T30 and I am already investigating that with Martin. X11 performance however is close to unusable, even a simple xterm has issues scrolling and

Re: intel videocard performance degraded severely after 9.4 update

2024-05-08 Thread Riccardo Mottola via macports-users
sorry, wrong list :)

intel videocard performance degraded severely after 9.4 update

2024-05-08 Thread Riccardo Mottola via macports-users
Hi, I updated my trusty R52 ThinkPad to 9.4 - i915. All went quite well. wifi is unreliable - but that is most probably the same isue I have on the T30 and I am already investigating that with Martin. X11 performance however is close to unusable, even a simple xterm has issues scrolling and

Re: framebuffer console on old ATI

2024-05-08 Thread Riccardo Mottola
Hi, Michael wrote: >> How do I enable radeonfb? Can I do it through configurations or do I >> need to compile my own kernel to try? > radeonfb* at pci? > I copied that line from ALL to my custom kernel build which I did for iwi debug. I just get a big black screen... no text, no white cursor.

Re: ATB.com

2024-05-07 Thread Riccardo Mottola
Hi Austin, I feel your pain. The world things Chrome, or at least Blink, is the only Browser. It is the new IE!!! Austin Hook wrote: In the past 6 months is has gotten more and more difficult to sign-on to with Firefox and OpenBSD, as they have tried to make their sites more and more bullet

Re: framebuffer console on old ATI

2024-05-07 Thread Riccardo Mottola
Hi, John D. Baker wrote: > As you have seen, the "radeon*" and "radeondrmkmsfb*" drivers do not > attach on "r100" class devices. They have been explicitly excluded > because early in the DRMKMS integration in NetBSD, they exhibited the > "(almost) black-on-black" video problem described in: I

Re: Intel Wireless fatal error

2024-05-07 Thread Riccardo Mottola
Hi, Martin Husemann wrote: > The message is bogus, it has nothing to do with autoconfiguration. Misleading.. I was wondering what autoconfiguration had to be done after everything was connected. > > "Fatal error" is a bit in the interrupt cause register of the intel > chipset. The driver can

Re: framebuffer console on old ATI

2024-05-07 Thread Riccardo Mottola
Hi Michael, Michael wrote: > > Yeah, I fixed a few problems there, xrender support was broken for r1xx> > Sun's xvr-100 card is a rebadged rv100... Wonderful... eager to test. >> How do I enable radeonfb? Can I do it through configurations or do I >> need to compile my own kernel to try? > >

Re: framebuffer console on old ATI

2024-05-07 Thread Riccardo Mottola
Hi Michael, Michael wrote: > Radeonfb should Just Work(tm) - it's used mainly on macppc and sparc64 > but I'm pretty sure it's been run on at least some little endian hw > before. according to radeon manpage, mine would have an R100, the earliest supported on X11. How do I enable radeonfb? Can

Re: Intel Wireless fatal error

2024-05-07 Thread Riccardo Mottola
Hi, Riccardo Mottola wrote: > dmesg | grep iwi0 > [ 1.005536] iwi0 at pci2 dev 2 function 0: Intel PRO/Wireless LAN > 2200BG Mini-PCI Adapter (rev. 0x05) > [ 1.005536] iwi0: interrupting at irq 11 > [ 1.005536] iwi0: 802.11 address 00:16:6f:0c:0f:59 > [

Intel Wireless fatal error

2024-05-07 Thread Riccardo Mottola
Hi, I upgraded my trusty Thinkpad to T30 to 10.0 and now most rough edges have been sorted out. Yesterday I connected it via WiFi, connected remotely to it, then went to bed. Today I see the connection dropped and a green message on the console. Ifconfig says network down. dmesg | grep iwi0 [

framebuffer console on old ATI

2024-05-06 Thread Riccardo Mottola
Hi, I notice that on 10.0 (but was the same on 9.x too) my old ThinkPad T30 runs in VGA text. Is there a specific limitaiton for the embedded videocard? a choice? or something I can try enabling? dmesg reports it as: [ 1.005536] acpivga0 at acpi0 (VID): ACPI Display Adapter [ 1.005536]

i386 - 10.0 gecko browsers

2024-05-06 Thread Riccardo Mottola
Hi, no firefox and seamonkey as binbary packages for pkgin? Is there any failure reason? At least seamonkey sure runs on 32bit and on Linux Firefox does too... Riccardo

Re: NetBSD i386 missing packages on 10.0 after upgrade - cairo gobject conflict

2024-05-06 Thread Riccardo Mottola
Hi, Havard Eidnes wrote: > Hmm, I think it's cairo-gobject which needs removing, if I recall > correctly that functinality and files were integrated into the > new version of the cairo package: thanks, you recalled correctly. I removed it and was able to reinstall windowmaker too. X11 starts

Re: NetBSD 10 and unreliable git

2024-05-06 Thread Riccardo Mottola
Hi Martin and Aryabhata, network is probably the issue. I was around this weekend and used wireless in two different places, the connection was good. I know both places and used them often with different computers (parent's house, girlfriend home.. not some hotel or airport). However, at my home

NetBSD i386 missing packages on 10.0 after upgrade - cairo gobject conflict

2024-05-06 Thread Riccardo Mottola
Hi, I upgraded two of my classic ThinkPads (i386) from 9.3 to 10.0. Upgrade went apparently smooth. Then I issue pkgin update & upgrade. However, shock... startx fails. windowmaker is missing! I explictely try to install it: sudo pkgin install windowmaker Password: calculating

Re: NetBSD 10 and unreliable git

2024-05-06 Thread Riccardo Mottola
Hi, Lucifer wrote: > you guys are using too many resources... I'just doing a git clone or a git pull... so don't blame "me". At most git.. or its NetBSD compilation. I am able to perform the same actions on the same repository on slower or less performing systems with other OSs though.

[OT] bad disk & MacOS reinstall

2024-05-05 Thread Riccardo Mottola via macports-users
Hi all, I have a slightly off-topic question. I think the Hard Disk of my older MacBook Pro is failing. The computer has long delays sometimes, in random moments. Maybe at login, maybe at application startup. I never see error and when activity resumes, everything goes fine, including GIT

Re: setting up a sbuild chroot - which key?

2024-05-03 Thread Riccardo Mottola
Hello, no hint for me which key to use? or if I miss one, where to get it? I have apt-get working, so I think I have the key. Riccardo Riccardo Mottola wrote: Hi! I separate the thread - since it is specific to setting up a viable sbuild environment. The goal is to have the simplest

NetBSD 10 and unreliable git

2024-05-03 Thread Riccardo Mottola
Hi, I'm updating fairly big git repositories (e.g. mozilla and similar) and continue getting these errors. I am over a fast WiFi. e$ git pull remote: Enumerating objects: 4822, done. remote: Counting objects: 100% (4822/4822), done. remote: Compressing objects: 100% (1027/1027), done. error:

Re: netbsd crashes when using fat filesys

2024-05-03 Thread Riccardo Mottola
Hi Martin, Martin Husemann wrote: - the original issue reported here is*something else* mangling/breaking a FAT file system and NetBSD not dealing with the result. This can either be a bug in Solaris or in NetBSD's interpration of the FAT file system format - we just don't know

Re: netbsd crashes when using fat filesys

2024-05-03 Thread Riccardo Mottola
Hi "xuser", xuser wrote: Yes it is that netbsd will crash on driver errors And I found the problem it was that solaris autofs driver would mount an LBA fat 32 as CHS fat32 And so disabling automount support in solaris fixed it. still it would be nice to understand what changes Solaris was

Re: Please forgive a blatant plug: I reviewed v10 for the Reg

2024-04-30 Thread Riccardo Mottola
Ciao Liam! Liam Proven wrote: I really wish there were more technology sharing between the BSDs. There is actually, but it is never easy. I have seen good transfer between NetBSD and OpenBSD in the years, including drivers and such. Dragonfly has the best installer, IMHO, but of course

Re: $squid is not set properly

2024-04-30 Thread Riccardo Mottola
Hi, Greg Troxel wrote: Almost certainly, you have squid installed via pkgsrc, or you have a leftover /etc/rc.d/squid because you used to. oh, got you! Squid was there. Actually, I really had the package installed and left unused. Possibly some testing. The logs indicated it did some runs in

$squid is not set properly

2024-04-30 Thread Riccardo Mottola
Hello, on boot, I see this message: /etc/rc: WARNING: $squid is not set properly - see rc.conf(5). but I have no squid related lines in my /etc/rc.conf and I don't use squid, so I don't think I need it (or does the system need it?). Riccardo

Re: >10W idle power usage on framework laptop 12th gen 13inch

2024-04-30 Thread Riccardo Mottola
Hi Nathaniel, Nathaniel Griswold wrote: I meant to clarify: I have had the battery for over a year and I’m not sure why the cycles reset to 5. I am puzzled by it. is it an genuine (really in strict sense of the term) brand battery or a compatible replacement (even if they call it

Re: NetBSD 9.3 to 10.0 upgrade failure - check for DOS fs

2024-04-24 Thread Riccardo Mottola
Hi, Martin Husemann wrote: > On Tue, Apr 23, 2024 at 01:20:12PM +0000, Riccardo Mottola wrote: >> /dev/sd0e /media/usb msdos rw 0 0 > What is that partition? > Is that "usb" device available (as sd0) during your upgrade experi

Re: NetBSD 9.3 to 10.0 upgrade failure - check for DOS fs

2024-04-23 Thread Riccardo Mottola
Hi, (removing Robert who may read the reply on the list, if) Martin Husemann wrote: > On Wed, Apr 10, 2024 at 11:52:04PM +0200, Riccardo Mottola wrote: >> 0: NetBSD (sysid 169) >>   bootmenu: NetBSD >>   start 2048, size 625140400, Active >> 1: >> 2: >>

Re: Git-devel has broken git-credential-osxkeychain.c for older systems

2024-04-22 Thread Riccardo Mottola via macports-dev
Hi, Sergey Fedorov wrote: Some on MacRumors, for instance; quite likely that those who are on KDX and Hotline also run those on 10.4–10.5, though I have no statistics on that. this is a little off-topic and gave me a little tear. Hotline and KDX were my thing many years ago, like more than

Re: Git-devel has broken git-credential-osxkeychain.c for older systems

2024-04-22 Thread Riccardo Mottola via macports-dev
Hi! Kirill A. Korinsky wrote: Keep in mind that suggested method removes support osx keyring from that system. User still be able to use SSH-based auth or enter password by hand for HTTP-based push. My point: I assume that nobody uses HTTP-based auth on git on 10.5 and 10.6, I do not assume

py-numpy and 32bit systems

2024-04-21 Thread Riccardo Mottola via macports-dev
Hi, I have a situation where I am unable to upgrade cleanly on my MacBook, took me a bit to realize. In the past, I had a complete systems, maybe also helped to have Ken's ports overlay. While doing upgrade, I am stuck on several rebuild failures (not installing anything new). One is:

Re: Git-devel has broken git-credential-osxkeychain.c for older systems

2024-04-21 Thread Riccardo Mottola via macports-dev
Hi, Kirill A. Korinsky wrote: I really doubt that anyone care about of macOS 10.6 these days with exception for a few folks in the world, and probably half of them read this mail list:) But propose a patch for git isn't bad idea, indeed. I care for 10.5 and 10.6, but I read this mailing list

Re: Please forgive a blatant plug: I reviewed v10 for the Reg

2024-04-19 Thread Riccardo Mottola
Hi Liam. Liam Proven wrote: I thought this might interest folks here... Nice share and thanks for taking the time to write it. NetBSD 10 proves old tech can still kick apps and take names three decades later Proper old-school Unix, not like those lazy, decadent Linux types

setting up a sbuild chroot - which key?

2024-04-16 Thread Riccardo Mottola
Hi! I separate the thread - since it is specific to setting up a viable sbuild environment. The goal is to have the simplest and smallest enviornoment to build source packages, in my case pyhon 2.7 I need the chroot. I read jeffrey's suggestions as well as wiki [1] I am trying this: sudo

Re: Performing dist-upgrade on powerpc and ppc64

2024-04-16 Thread Riccardo Mottola
Hi Adrian, so you suggest to use powerful scripts. Ok, got dget (from devscripts) and sbuild. Added my user do sbuild group. John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: You can fetch the source from here: $ dget

Re: Upgrade of current pkgsrc fails due to gtk3 on 10.99

2024-04-16 Thread Riccardo Mottola
Hi, maybe pkg_chck should understand multi-version one day... it is becoming a common disease for python, perl... but also other packages. Greg Troxel wrote: Yes, all flowing from python's lack of API compat. This may not help, but I recommmend: pkgin sk pkgin uk foo # for any kept

Re: Upgrade of current pkgsrc fails due to gtk3 on 10.99

2024-04-15 Thread Riccardo Mottola
Hi Greg, once gtk3 was sorted out, pkg_rr completed. Yay. Then I did re-run it, to check, and I see this: RR> Checking for mismatched installed packages using pkg_chk rr> Installed: py311-tomli-2.0.1nb1 py311-tomli-2.0.1nb1 rr> WARNING: mismatch variable not set due to permissions; rr>

Re: Upgrade of current pkgsrc fails due to gtk3 on 10.99

2024-04-15 Thread Riccardo Mottola
Hi Greg, Greg Troxel wrote: gtk3 is buggy. It tries to link against installed libs during the build, instead of only the libs being built. I did pkg_delete -f gtk3+ and then it builds fine. Actually fixing this is harder; you'll have to find where gtk3+'s build manages to have

Upgrade of current pkgsrc fails due to gtk3 on 10.99

2024-04-14 Thread Riccardo Mottola
Hi, I am running 10.99.10 and updated pkgsrc and want to upgrade with pkg_rolling-replace gtk3 fails with the error below. I see the issue on freetype, which is a little scary. The blocking problem whough is that libgdk-3 has undefined reference to X symbols! A check: $ ls -l

Re: Performing dist-upgrade on powerpc and ppc64

2024-04-14 Thread Riccardo Mottola
Hi Adrian, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: Python 2.7 was removed from Debian unstable in December 2022 [1]. The motivations for the removal are explained in [2]. I supposed so, just asked for confirmation. I don't care much about the motivations - I need it as a build dependency. I

Notes on GNUstep meeting

2024-04-14 Thread Riccardo Mottola
Hi all! I note down sone impressions on this meeting, it was almost 2hrs for me. Even without Fred and Gregory, we had some good discussion. Josh partiticpated only through texting, so while he out some interesting points, it was a bit one-way discussion * Agreed to delay release to about the

Re: Reminder!!! GNUstep meeting 12:30-1:30est

2024-04-13 Thread Riccardo Mottola
Hi Fred! a pity you and Gregory couldn't make it. It was a nice meeting... I participated for 1h48' even if I had to procastinate dinner with my parents a little. Fred Kiefer wrote: I cannot make it on Saturday. We have an invitation from friends and I won’t be back in time. My point for

Re: NetBSD 9.3 to 10.0 upgrade failure - check for DOS fs

2024-04-12 Thread Riccardo Mottola
Hi, Martin Husemann wrote: Can you boot the original install CD you used, exit the installer and check the output of: sysctl machdep.bootmethod This should either tell you BIOS or UEFI, and this is how the installer decides what kind of setup the booted system later will need.

Re: NetBSD 10 and framebuffer consoles setup vs 9.3 (font, multiple...)

2024-04-11 Thread Riccardo Mottola
Hi, RVP wrote: and the system will now use the larger font if you have a high enough display. Otherwise, you would end up with an unreadable chars. on, say, 4K displays. For 4K displays maybe, but on any laptop I have at hand - without prehaps a "Retina" or equivalent display, the small

Re: NetBSD 10 and framebuffer consoles setup vs 9.3 (font, multiple...)

2024-04-10 Thread Riccardo Mottola
Hi, comparing to my old 9.3 system and doing some experimenting...  I found some difference and have questions. Riccardo Mottola wrote: I used the sysupgrade method for the first time, I hope I didn't mess up with etcupdate step with required a lot of manual work. Also, since the console

Re: NetBSD 9.3 to 10.0 upgrade failure - check for DOS fs

2024-04-10 Thread Riccardo Mottola
Robert Elz wrote: | no "e" of course... and no MS-DOS in sight. It was already a fully | BSD-ized system. What does fdisk show? (ie: the MBR label). fdisk on wd0 run from the utility shell of the install cd says: 0: NetBSD (sysid 169)   bootmenu: NetBSD   start 2048, size 625140400,

Re: NetBSD 9.3 to 10.0 upgrade failure - check for DOS fs

2024-04-10 Thread Riccardo Mottola
Hi, Martin Husemann wrote: Try the BIOS-only install image instead - I bet your system boots the CD via UEFI, but the original installation was BIOS only. when booting from CD, I see: NetBSD/x86 BIOS Boot Revision 5.11 Is this meaningful? Riccardo

Re: NetBSD 9.3 to 10.0 upgrade failure - check for DOS fs

2024-04-10 Thread Riccardo Mottola
Hi Martin, Martin Husemann wrote: On Tue, Apr 09, 2024 at 10:28:46PM +0200, Riccardo Mottola wrote: So I have a perfect working 9.3 installation on on an HP ProBook laptop. I boot the CD which works fine Try the BIOS-only install image instead - I bet your system boots the CD via UEFI

Re: Failing tests on MSVC in libs-base

2024-04-09 Thread Riccardo Mottola
Hi, Ivan Vučica wrote: I saw this: this was recently addressed by replacing probe of example.org/silly-url-test because example.org started returning 503 or similar for that URL instead of 404. Incoming PR addressed this on every other platform by replacing example.org with another piece of

NetBSD 9.3 to 10.0 upgrade failure - check for DOS fs

2024-04-09 Thread Riccardo Mottola
Hi! I want to upgrade my 9.3 amd64 laptop. Since my other upgrade using sysupgrade was a failure, i tried doing it via CD install. I still hope either to get help fixing my other laptop or being able to "compare" with a successful install So I have a perfect working 9.3 installation on on an

Re: 10.5 and gcc8 x86-64 ok but ppc bails with dlerror

2024-04-09 Thread Riccardo Mottola via macports-dev
Hi, I actually agreed with you, just skip from gcc7 to gcc13. Ken Cunningham wrote: Just yesterday I fixed gcc10-bootstrap to build on Tiger PPC and pushed that to master, which required YA new bootstrap compiler. So the parts are now in place for the attempt. ohhh :) it took me 4 days to

Re: 10.5 and gcc8 x86-64 ok but ppc bails with dlerror

2024-04-08 Thread Riccardo Mottola via macports-dev
Hi, Ken Cunningham wrote: Up to now, though, older systems have used gcc7, and in a few cases gcc5 or gcc48 are used for specific issues. So those gcc versions may still be needed ... time will tell. for me it is gcc48 (or apple 4.2 on tiger or such) for old software. gcc6 covers most

issues with meld and python, full 99% forever

2024-04-06 Thread Riccardo Mottola via macports-dev
Hi, I use meld to compare and develop, especially ArcticFox against full Gecko tree. I don't know if there are alternatives, but it proves to handle big trees and also complicated compare details. However, it is highly complex in its dependencies being in python, gtk3 and related. There was a

Re: force rebuild a port

2024-04-06 Thread Riccardo Mottola via macports-users
Hi Ryan, Ryan Schmidt wrote: As others explained, because you're getting a pre-compiled binary from our servers. This is probably what you want if you suspect something has corrupted your local installation and you want to reinstall. Thank you guys, I didn't think of binary packages, since

NetBSD 10 and framebuffer consoles setup vs 9.3 (font, multiple...)

2024-04-05 Thread Riccardo Mottola
Hi! I just upgraded from 9.3 to 10 on amd64 with AMD Radeon I used the sysupgrade method for the first time, I hope I didn't mess up with etcupdate step with required a lot of manual work. Also, since the console was in 80x24 mode, checking diff of etcfiles was really cumbersome. I can

Re: 10.5 and gcc8 x86-64 ok but ppc bails with dlerror

2024-04-05 Thread Riccardo Mottola via macports-dev
Hi, Ryan Schmidt wrote: I propose to keep even versions, because they are stable ones Do you have a source for this claim? It's the first I've heard of it. As far as I know, all gcc version numbers are stable. I did a quick search and couldn't find one. It is something I pked up years

Re: force rebuild a port

2024-04-05 Thread Riccardo Mottola via macports-users
Hi Richard, last week I did a test and it worked, but it was not what I needed. Probably it was a port already in need to upgrade. I have a system now where all ports are up-to-date (as of "port outdated"). If I issue e.g. port -n upgrade --force --no-rev-upgrade gtk2 It takes it time to

Re: 10.5 and gcc8 x86-64 ok but ppc bails with dlerror

2024-04-05 Thread Riccardo Mottola via macports-dev
Hi, Ken Cunningham wrote: To have libgcc7, the way it is now, you need to build libgcc13, 12, 11, 10, 9, 8, and then 7. That is -- a lot of gcc building for a questionable benefit. on my PowerMac dual-G4 about a week of compilation, given the time to build gcc8... But I understand we

Re: 10.5 and gcc8 x86-64 ok but ppc bails with dlerror

2024-04-05 Thread Riccardo Mottola via macports-dev
Hi, Ken Cunningham wrote: My only question is whether to skip over gcc8-12, or include them. If we skip over gcc8-12, we can probably have a new release that uses gcc13 as the primary gcc on all systems in macports done by Monday. Less maybe. Last time I jumped the version, it took me an

Re: 10.5 and gcc8 x86-64 ok but ppc bails with dlerror

2024-04-05 Thread Riccardo Mottola via macports-dev
Hi, Sorry - I missed these replies, ended up in the wrong mail folder. Was about to re-write! We had discussions in many points, tickets, ecc... lots of different opinions. Sergio Had wrote: You should not need gcc8. I had gcc11 working on 10.5 ppc (and ppc64 too). I have seen people

Re: Performing dist-upgrade on powerpc and ppc64

2024-04-04 Thread Riccardo Mottola
Hi Adrian, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: First run "apt update", then "apt upgrade" and make sure every package is updated without issues. Once that has passed, you may try to run "apt dist-upgrade" but before you confirm the dist-upgrade, make sure that nothing is purged you still need.

Re: Failing tests on MSVC in libs-base

2024-04-03 Thread Riccardo Mottola
Hi, Ivan Vučica wrote: I saw this: this was recently addressed by replacing probe of example.org/silly-url-test because example.org started returning 503 or similar for that URL instead of 404. We rely on github there... wonder what happened. But also creating the file doesn't seem to be a

Re: General Design Guidelines for GNUstep and apps

2024-04-03 Thread Riccardo Mottola
Hi Thomas, Thomas wrote: Hello, as I play around with GSDE I noticed that there are some differences between the usage of the apps. Does a Design Guideline for GNUstep exists (as Apple has(d))? Not really, but we rely essentially on OpenStep behaviour, since that is the default "look and

10.5 and gcc8 x86-64 ok but ppc bails with dlerror

2024-03-28 Thread Riccardo Mottola via macports-dev
Hi, after all the talk about gcc versions, I tried to build gcc 8 here. Officially it says "gcc8 is known to fail". I first did just "build" on Intel 64bit and PPC 32bit - Intel 32bit later, I fear my MacBook has fan issues. Intel 64bit finished build! Took several hours. I thus tried to

Re: force rebuild a port

2024-03-27 Thread Riccardo Mottola via macports-users
Hi Richard, Richard L. Hamilton wrote: > port -n upgrade --force --no-rev-upgrade crankyport > > It might not work if crankyport needs the latest of something it depends on > and that isn't already up-to-date. But a lot of times, it does work. this is a good one.. appears to work for stubborn

wget errors - malloc

2024-03-27 Thread Riccardo Mottola via macports-dev
Hi, I just noticed this on 10.5 intel 64bit... Often I don't check the console so I don't know if it is fresh. Artax:~ multix$ wget https://github.com/macports/macports-ports/archive/70b148d6b0c465b2483ca2d6f9a12fb0841d639e.zip wget(77577) malloc: *** error for object 0x7fff7020c200:

Re: cmake-devel --> cmake coming .... please test if you care to

2024-03-27 Thread Riccardo Mottola via macports-dev
Hi Ken, Ken Cunningham wrote: > the cmake port is very very far behind. > > cmake-devel has been updated to the newest version currently available > (3.29.0) for most systems, and then newest supportable (3.28.4) for 10.7 > and < 10.6. > I deactivated cmake and installed cmake-devel as test on

Re: git disappeared - dependencies broken

2024-03-25 Thread Riccardo Mottola
Hi, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: > > Debian unstable is currently undergoing a massive transition to switch > 32-bit architectures to 64-bit time_t as announced last month: >> https://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2024/02/msg0.html >>

git disappeared - dependencies broken

2024-03-25 Thread Riccardo Mottola
Hi, I did an "apt-get dist-upgrade" today and my git disappeared. When I tried to readd it I get: Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable distribution that some required packages have not yet been

Re: make replace failing with python module conflicts

2024-03-21 Thread Riccardo Mottola
Hi Greg! it's always you replying to me.. thank you! Long time NetBSD... Greg Troxel wrote: > Two options: > > A) pkg_delete -f the py311-foo that are now included in python base > package > > B) using pbulk, a separate machine, etc., build a binary package set of > everything you need

glitches in framebuffer console - NL/CR

2024-03-20 Thread Riccardo Mottola
Hi, I noticed that the first console (the standard one) in case of framebuffer enabled cards has strange issues. I noticed this on 9.3 as well as on 10RC on different systems and AMD vs. Intel video card I report it on this ML because t Boot, dmesg, login come up fine, no issue. Certain

Re: MacPorts vs. Apple compiler issues, Handle

2024-03-19 Thread Riccardo Mottola via macports-dev
Hi, Sergio Had wrote: Could you refer me to the beginning of this discussion please? it started on the Mac Users mailing list, you can find in the archives! I am also involved in AF project:) Oh, I am curious, how? I am essentially the only active developer currently, except Roy who

Re: MacPorts vs. Apple compiler issues, Handle

2024-03-19 Thread Riccardo Mottola via macports-users
Hi, Sergio Had wrote: Could you refer me to the beginning of this discussion please? it started on the Mac Users mailing list, you can find in the archives! I am also involved in AF project:) Oh, I am curious, how? I am essentially the only active developer currently, except Roy who

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