[Pkg-games-ubuntu] [Bug 1714787] Re: Launching chocolate-doom or prboom-plus crashes Wayland session

2017-11-27 Thread Jon Dowland
Can you try either prboom or chocolate-doom with the '-nofullscreen' command-line option? My hunch is the problem is related to trying to change the display resolution whilst entering fullscreen mode. It's likely actually an SDL1 bug. In Chocolate Doom's case, we are moving to SDL2 with the next

[Bug 1714787] Re: Launching chocolate-doom or prboom-plus crashes Wayland session

2017-11-27 Thread Jon Dowland
Can you try either prboom or chocolate-doom with the '-nofullscreen' command-line option? My hunch is the problem is related to trying to change the display resolution whilst entering fullscreen mode. It's likely actually an SDL1 bug. In Chocolate Doom's case, we are moving to SDL2 with the next

[Bug 1714787] Re: Launching chocolate-doom or prboom-plus crashes Wayland session

2017-11-27 Thread Jon Dowland
Can you try either prboom or chocolate-doom with the '-nofullscreen' command-line option? My hunch is the problem is related to trying to change the display resolution whilst entering fullscreen mode. It's likely actually an SDL1 bug. In Chocolate Doom's case, we are moving to SDL2 with the next

[Bug 1731680] Re: quake3 demo shows 8-10 fps only

2017-11-13 Thread Jon Dowland
Hi, thanks for the report. This is likely a local configuration with your quake3 engine of choice (ioquake3) and not an issue with your data package nor with game-data-packager. It would be helpful for further diagnosis if you could report whether you get a different framerate with different data,

[Pkg-games-ubuntu] [Bug 1731680] Re: quake3 demo shows 8-10 fps only

2017-11-13 Thread Jon Dowland
Hi, thanks for the report. This is likely a local configuration with your quake3 engine of choice (ioquake3) and not an issue with your data package nor with game-data-packager. It would be helpful for further diagnosis if you could report whether you get a different framerate with different data,

Bug#760553: debian-installer: changing from guided to manual with LVM results in corrupt LVM metadata

2014-09-05 Thread Jon Dowland
Package: debian-installer Version: debian-7.6.0-amd64-netinst.iso Severity: important hi, I've set Version: to the ISO I used for install as I'm not sure what version of d-i that correlates to, nor whether this is a bug fixed since. I recently performed an install and opted for guided - use LVM

Bug#760553: debian-installer: changing from guided to manual with LVM results in corrupt LVM metadata

2014-09-05 Thread Jon Dowland
Package: debian-installer Version: debian-7.6.0-amd64-netinst.iso Severity: important hi, I've set Version: to the ISO I used for install as I'm not sure what version of d-i that correlates to, nor whether this is a bug fixed since. I recently performed an install and opted for guided - use LVM

Bug#760452: libnss-myhostname: broken homepage field in control file

2014-09-04 Thread Jon Dowland
Source: libnss-myhostname Version: 0.3-9 Severity: minor The control file lists Homepage: http://0pointer.de/lennart/projects/nss-myhostname/ but that URL no longer exists (404). I guess that's because it has moved to be a sub-component of systemd,

Bug#754852: nfs-utils: contains amd64 binaries (.o, .a, etc.)

2014-07-14 Thread Jon Dowland
Source: nfs-utils Version: 1:1.2.8-6 Severity: normal Hi folks, $ pwd /home/jon/tmp/nfs-utils-1.2.8 $ find . -name '*.o' -o -name '*.a' | wc -l 113 This is inherited from upstream's tarball and doesn't appear to be replicated in your git repository (that is: you've imported upstream's

[Bug 1341766] [NEW] nfs-utils source package in Trusty contains compiled objects

2014-07-14 Thread Jon Dowland
Public bug reported: $ tar tf nfs-utils_1.2.8.orig.tar.bz2|grep '\.o$'|wc -l 109 also .a, .deps and .libs dirs, etc. ** Affects: nfs-utils (Ubuntu) Importance: Undecided Status: New -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is

Bug#754852: nfs-utils: contains amd64 binaries (.o, .a, etc.)

2014-07-14 Thread Jon Dowland
Source: nfs-utils Version: 1:1.2.8-6 Severity: normal Hi folks, $ pwd /home/jon/tmp/nfs-utils-1.2.8 $ find . -name '*.o' -o -name '*.a' | wc -l 113 This is inherited from upstream's tarball and doesn't appear to be replicated in your git repository (that is: you've imported upstream's

Bug#736327: progress so far

2014-02-01 Thread Jon Dowland
Here's my work-in-progress patch FYI. Since I think the cleanest method is for some changes in python's mailbox library, I'm discussing that too: http://bugs.python.org/issue20328 --- /usr/bin/archivemail 2011-07-10 14:57:42.0

Bug#736327: archivemail: feature request: delete empty mailbox after archiving

2014-01-22 Thread Jon Dowland
Package: archivemail Version: 0.9.0-1 Severity: wishlist A nice feature would be to delete mailboxes from which you are archiving if, after archiving, there's no mail left in the source mailbox. I had a browse around the archivemail source and I guess the nicest way to achieve this would be if

[Bug 1174635] [NEW] gnome-shell Power Off menu item confusing, incongruous with GDMs

2013-04-30 Thread Jon Dowland
Public bug reported: Hi, gdm 3.6.1-0ubuntu4 gnome-shell 3.6.3.1-0ubuntu6 When logged into GNOME 3, the right-hand menu has an item Power Off at the bottom. Clicking it brings up a context menu which gives you the option of logging out or suspending as well. This is confusing as the menu

Bug#705165: geary: can't configure geary

2013-04-24 Thread Jon Dowland
Hi Martin, On Wed, Apr 10, 2013 at 08:52:54PM +0200, Martin Dosch wrote: Opening it in a terminal gave me no helpful informations: $ geary Try $ geary -d --log-network And see if that sheds any more light. My best guess is it will be an SSL certificate issue. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE,

Bug#700620: [Openstack-devel] Bug#700620: Bug#700620: Bug#700620: Rewriting the .ini parsing bit of openstack-pkg-tools

2013-04-18 Thread Jon Dowland
Hi, I saw this bug and I got a bit concerned. I'm a likely user of the openstack packages in Debian — well I/we could be, if they fit our needs — but I'm really worried that they are going to be vastly over-engineered. In a way it reminds me of the exim4 packages: the situation is not entirely

Bug#700620: [Openstack-devel] Bug#700620: Bug#700620: Bug#700620: Rewriting the .ini parsing bit of openstack-pkg-tools

2013-04-18 Thread Jon Dowland
Hi, I saw this bug and I got a bit concerned. I'm a likely user of the openstack packages in Debian — well I/we could be, if they fit our needs — but I'm really worried that they are going to be vastly over-engineered. In a way it reminds me of the exim4 packages: the situation is not entirely

r14001 - packages/trunk/ode/debian

2013-04-17 Thread Jon Dowland
Author: jmtd Date: 2013-04-17 08:59:26 + (Wed, 17 Apr 2013) New Revision: 14001 Modified: packages/trunk/ode/debian/changelog packages/trunk/ode/debian/control Log: Update Vcs-Browser field in control file. Closes: #705591. Modified: packages/trunk/ode/debian/changelog

[Bug 1077531] Re: debhelper lacks example rules files

2013-04-12 Thread Jon Dowland
Those files were removed on purpose in 2011-04-01 (here's the commit: http://anonscm.debian.org/gitweb/?p=debhelper/debhelper.git;a=commitdiff;h=54fbbed4eb8bf4086e12f4c22204ab75729a4f65) I think the reason is that the old, long-form way of writing rules files is deprecated, at least from the

Bug#696727: cheese does not start with Gtk-Warning

2013-03-27 Thread Jon Dowland
severity 696727 grave thanks On Wed, Dec 26, 2012 at 03:36:44PM +0100, Giovanni74 wrote: cheese does not start at all. Here is the terminal output: Wow. I've just reproduced this. I'm mildly incredulous. Are we just unlucky? This makes the package entirely unusable for me. Can anyone use it?

Re: Rooting an Android Tablet on Debian

2013-03-11 Thread Jon Dowland
Hi, not answering your specific question, but On Sun, Mar 10, 2013 at 02:57:18PM -0400, Charles Kroeger wrote: I got a Kobo Arc that runs Android 4.0.4 and would like to become su for this device snip I use Calibre with the Arc for moving books around but Calibre is useless with the Adobe DRM

Re: packaging with git: automatic setup of remotes/upstream when cloning

2013-03-06 Thread Jon Dowland
I (used to) document the upstream branch location in debian/README.source. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20130306134716.GA11387@debian

Re: multi-tarball packages in version control

2013-03-06 Thread Jon Dowland
On Sat, Feb 16, 2013 at 09:57:16AM +0100, Tzafrir Cohen wrote: The only problem is that svn-buildpackage does not support this. Or rather: it should have, but a long standing bug (with a partial fix attached to it, to which the maintainer did not comment. But since uploaded one or two

Re: Cost of packages in disk space?

2013-02-26 Thread Jon Dowland
On Mon, Feb 25, 2013 at 11:47:22AM -0600, green wrote: So, imagine that I have a full filesystem and want to fix it by removing a single package. I would need to get a list of manually installed packages, and go through each one of them individually, proposing a removal and saving aptitude's

r13967 - packages/trunk/abuse-sdl/debian

2013-02-25 Thread Jon Dowland
Author: jmtd Date: 2013-02-25 14:16:41 + (Mon, 25 Feb 2013) New Revision: 13967 Modified: packages/trunk/abuse-sdl/debian/control Log: update Vcs-Browser: field Modified: packages/trunk/abuse-sdl/debian/control === ---

Re: Cost of packages in disk space?

2013-02-25 Thread Jon Dowland
For simple per-package results, dpigs from debian-goodies gives you what you want (and is little more than a one-liner similar to what was posted by another to this thread, internally.) As for cumulative space, what you want is not how much space a package takes up but to answer the question: for

r13961 - in packages/trunk/love/debian: . patches

2013-02-22 Thread Jon Dowland
Author: jmtd Date: 2013-02-22 15:04:19 + (Fri, 22 Feb 2013) New Revision: 13961 Added: packages/trunk/love/debian/patches/packaged-glee Modified: packages/trunk/love/debian/changelog packages/trunk/love/debian/control Log: catch SVN up to last release (0.8.0-3) Modified:

r13962 - packages/tags/love

2013-02-22 Thread Jon Dowland
Author: jmtd Date: 2013-02-22 15:05:24 + (Fri, 22 Feb 2013) New Revision: 13962 Added: packages/tags/love/0.8.0-3/ Log: Tag Release ___ Pkg-games-commits mailing list Pkg-games-commits@lists.alioth.debian.org

r13963 - packages/trunk/love/debian

2013-02-22 Thread Jon Dowland
Author: jmtd Date: 2013-02-22 15:07:10 + (Fri, 22 Feb 2013) New Revision: 13963 Modified: packages/trunk/love/debian/changelog packages/trunk/love/debian/control Log: Update Vcs-Browser control file field Modified: packages/trunk/love/debian/changelog

r13965 - packages/trunk/love/debian

2013-02-22 Thread Jon Dowland
Author: jmtd Date: 2013-02-22 16:24:22 + (Fri, 22 Feb 2013) New Revision: 13965 Added: packages/trunk/love/debian/love-dbg.lintian-overrides packages/trunk/love/debian/love-doc.lintian-overrides packages/trunk/love/debian/love.lintian-overrides Removed:

r13966 - packages/tags/love

2013-02-22 Thread Jon Dowland
Author: jmtd Date: 2013-02-22 16:24:46 + (Fri, 22 Feb 2013) New Revision: 13966 Added: packages/tags/love/0.8.0-4/ Log: tag 0.8.0-4 ___ Pkg-games-commits mailing list Pkg-games-commits@lists.alioth.debian.org

Re: Bug#700506: ITP: trinity -- A Linux System call fuzz tester

2013-02-15 Thread Jon Dowland
On Thu, Feb 14, 2013 at 11:37:03AM -0500, Scott Kitterman wrote: The chances of Trinity, the desktop environment, being packaged in Debian are very low. That may be the case, but it may still confuse users regardless. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a

Re: OT: just falling back to fluxbox after Gnome3 mem-leak experince

2013-02-15 Thread Jon Dowland
On Fri, Feb 08, 2013 at 12:09:16PM -0500, Stefan Monnier wrote: Indeed, but we're talking about 3GB of memory here, which seems hard to justify for such an application. Sure, but my point was it's not a leak. Being memory inefficient is one thing. Leaking memory is where, over time, it takes

Re: OT: just falling back to fluxbox after Gnome3 mem-leak experince

2013-02-08 Thread Jon Dowland
On Fri, Feb 08, 2013 at 11:28:51AM +0100, Peter Viskup wrote: Hi all, just want to share my bad experience with Gnome3 in testing. They have/had some mem-leaks in there. viskup@viskup:~$ uptime 11:10:57 up 16 days, 17:01, 10 users, load average: 1.61, 1.34, 1.07 I'm not sure what this is

Re: OT - Convert output of byte count to GB count?

2013-02-08 Thread Jon Dowland
You could use GNU units. It appears to treat SI prefixes as strictly base 10, so use the KiB/MiB etc. variants where applicable: $ units 8112116KiB MiB * 7921.9883 / 0.00012623094 Something like …21| awk '/transferred/' {print $1}'|while read i; do units ${i}bytes GiB; done

Re: Go (golang) packaging, part 2

2013-02-06 Thread Jon Dowland
On Wed, Feb 06, 2013 at 09:23:02AM +, Neil Williams wrote: Then don't package Go at all and leave it entirely outside the realm of dpkg - no dependencies allowed in either direction, no files created outside /usr/local for any reason, no contamination of the apt or dpkg cache data. If what

Accepted chocolate-doom 1.7.0-3 (source amd64)

2013-02-06 Thread Jon Dowland
Changed-By: Jon Dowland j...@debian.org Description: chocolate-doom - Doom engine closely-compatible with vanilla doom Closes: 692762 Changes: chocolate-doom (1.7.0-3) unstable; urgency=low . * Remove deprecated dm-upload-allowed field from the control file. * Provides: doom-engine

Re: copy current HDD setout on preseed

2013-02-06 Thread Jon Dowland
On Wed, Feb 06, 2013 at 02:40:18PM +0100, Frank Lanitz wrote: Depending on your goal you could create the layout and put it into kind of a image. Fastest way would be e.g. dd if=/dev/sda of=/foo/baa At last as long as you are not writing, whats your goal ;) OP mentioned preseeding. Can they

Re: Go (golang) packaging, part 2

2013-02-05 Thread Jon Dowland
On Fri, Feb 01, 2013 at 01:27:05PM -0800, Russ Allbery wrote: Lennart Sorensen lsore...@csclub.uwaterloo.ca writes: Not all C libraries are distributed from one central site and they certainly don't expect you to use a central package installation system. So much more the shame for C.

Re: Go (golang) packaging, part 2

2013-02-05 Thread Jon Dowland
On Fri, Feb 01, 2013 at 03:20:08PM -0500, Lennart Sorensen wrote: On Fri, Feb 01, 2013 at 10:00:32AM +, Jon Dowland wrote: As a Haskell developer, I find cabal much more convenient than nothing, in the situation where the library I want is not packaged by Debian yet. If I want my

Re: Go (golang) packaging, part 2

2013-02-05 Thread Jon Dowland
On Fri, Feb 01, 2013 at 12:38:16PM -0800, Russ Allbery wrote: Using Debian packages is a *means*, not an *end*. Sometimes in these discussions I think people lose sight of the fact that, at the end of the day, the goal is not to construct an elegantly consistent system composed of

Re: Go (golang) packaging, part 2

2013-02-05 Thread Jon Dowland
On Fri, Feb 01, 2013 at 04:02:18PM -0500, Lennart Sorensen wrote: For cpan there is even dh-make-perl. The solution then is to make equivelant scripts for other languages. The solution is NOT to use some other package installation system. Although I've never used dh-make-perl myself, I'm

Bug#692506: unblock: chocolate-doom/1.7.0-2 (but please see inside!)

2013-02-05 Thread Jon Dowland
Hi Jonathan, On Wed, Jan 23, 2013 at 04:01:47PM +, Jonathan Wiltshire wrote: I would accept the Uploaders fix and the other documentation fixes along with it, but not the standards version. Can you prepare a debdiff before uploading and send it to this bug please? Thank you, looking at it

Bug#692506: unblock: chocolate-doom/1.7.0-2 (but please see inside!)

2013-02-05 Thread Jon Dowland
Hi Jonathan, On Wed, Jan 23, 2013 at 04:01:47PM +, Jonathan Wiltshire wrote: I would accept the Uploaders fix and the other documentation fixes along with it, but not the standards version. Can you prepare a debdiff before uploading and send it to this bug please? Thank you, looking at it

Re: Go (golang) packaging, part 2

2013-02-01 Thread Jon Dowland
On Wed, Jan 30, 2013 at 06:46:35PM -0500, Lennart Sorensen wrote: Absolutely. As a user I have a nice package management system that I know how to use and which works well. I don't need another one. As a Haskell developer, I find cabal much more convenient than nothing, in the situation where

Bug#699158: ITP: squishyball -- audio sample comparison testing tool

2013-01-28 Thread Jon Dowland
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Jon Dowland j...@debian.org * Package name: squishyball Version : 0.1~svn18785 Upstream Author : Monty mo...@xiph.org * URL : http://svn.xiph.org/trunk/squishyball/ * License : GPL Programming Lang: C Description

Bug#699158: ITP: squishyball -- audio sample comparison testing tool

2013-01-28 Thread Jon Dowland
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Jon Dowland j...@debian.org * Package name: squishyball Version : 0.1~svn18785 Upstream Author : Monty mo...@xiph.org * URL : http://svn.xiph.org/trunk/squishyball/ * License : GPL Programming Lang: C Description

Bug#699158: ITP: squishyball -- audio sample comparison testing tool

2013-01-28 Thread Jon Dowland
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Jon Dowland j...@debian.org * Package name: squishyball Version : 0.1~svn18785 Upstream Author : Monty mo...@xiph.org * URL : http://svn.xiph.org/trunk/squishyball/ * License : GPL Programming Lang: C Description

Re: Linux Future

2013-01-23 Thread Jon Dowland
On Wed, Jan 23, 2013 at 10:46:33AM +0100, Josselin Mouette wrote: You might find this useful: http://np237.livejournal.com/33449.html I made this presentation in the hope to make such things easier to understand for the sysadmin. Just for the record I found it a good read, and mentally have

Re: Bug#696006: ITP: tinyos -- operating system for sensor motes and embedded devices

2012-12-17 Thread Jon Dowland
Hi - we have/had some modules here at Newcastle University using TinyOS and having it available in Debian may make it easier for us to deliver the teaching in future. Thanks! -- I pledge not to post to any systemd-related thread on -devel until (at least) 2013. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to

Re: Yast for debian

2012-12-17 Thread Jon Dowland
On Mon, Dec 17, 2012 at 04:17:56PM +0500, Muhammad Yousuf Khan wrote: is there any tool equivalent to yast in Debian? For those of us unfamiliar with what Yast is or does now, can you explain the particular features you are looking for? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to

Re: Network Manager icon not working well

2012-12-17 Thread Jon Dowland
On Mon, Dec 10, 2012 at 12:50:36PM +0200, Andrei POPESCU wrote: is there any service which monitors status of Ethernet and changes Network manager's icon on gnome-control-panel? Network Manager. For GNOME3, nm does not draw the icon in the display, gnome-shell overrides it and provides its

Re: Debian 7 wheezy should be released by now, don't u think?

2012-12-17 Thread Jon Dowland
On Sun, Dec 16, 2012 at 11:53:41AM +0100, Johan Grönqvist wrote: You can have a look at http://richardhartmann.de/blog/posts/2012/12/14-Debian_Release_Critical_Bug_report_for_Week_50/ to see the number of release critical bugs. The release should wait until that number is zero. Near zero. I

Re: Gnome3 probe

2012-12-17 Thread Jon Dowland
On Fri, Dec 14, 2012 at 08:30:24AM -0500, Rob Owens wrote: Cinnamon is actually in Sid right now. I haven't tried it, so I don't know how well it works. Thanks for the information. It still won't get into the next stable release, but being officially packaged is likely to be in the one after

Re: Bug#695897: ITP: corekeeper -- Core file centralizer and reaper

2012-12-14 Thread Jon Dowland
These have been forcemerged. -- I pledge not to post to any systemd-related thread on -devel until (at least) 2013. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive:

Btrfs limitations in the Debian installer 7.0 beta4 release

2012-12-14 Thread Jon Dowland
Forwarding this interesting message re d-i feedback and using BTRFS in the installer from -devel. - Forwarded message from Aaron Toponce aaron.topo...@gmail.com - From: Aaron Toponce aaron.topo...@gmail.com Subject: Btrfs limitations in the Debian installer 7.0 beta4 release Date: Thu,

Re: Gnome3 probe

2012-12-14 Thread Jon Dowland
On Fri, Dec 14, 2012 at 11:35:59AM +0100, phi debian wrote: So my question, does next release of debian will be poluted with gnome3, are will we have a choice? Even a dangled gnome2 would be good for me. GNOME2 will be gone, GNOME3 will be present, and the fallback mode has been renamed GNOME

Re: GFDL in main

2012-12-11 Thread Jon Dowland
On Tue, Dec 11, 2012 at 01:04:22AM +0100, Jakub Wilk wrote: * Jakub Wilk jw...@jwilk.net, 2012-12-01, 12:10: Any volunteers to file bugs? I'll file them myself. Please collect them together with a usertag to help others who may wish to get involved. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to

Re: dput-ng/1.1 in unstable

2012-12-06 Thread Jon Dowland
On Thu, Dec 06, 2012 at 09:53:41AM +0800, Paul Wise wrote: Anything less than the full fingerprint (8, 7 or whatever) I hadn't noticed that 0xFEFACED was only 7 characters. That's cheating ☺ It might be worth noting that GPG does not accept less than 8 chars as an argument prefixed by 0x $

Re: dput-ng/1.1 in unstable

2012-12-06 Thread Jon Dowland
On Thu, Dec 06, 2012 at 01:02:29PM +0100, Arno Töll wrote: Hint: gpg --list-keys --with-colons --keyring /usr/share/keyrings/debian-keyring.gpg --no-default-keyring No need, I have 'keyring /usr/share/keyrings/debian-keyring.gpg' in my ~/.gnupg/gpg.conf. Not sure though, why nion is listed

Re: upgrade from Squeeze to Wheezy

2012-12-04 Thread Jon Dowland
On Sun, Dec 02, 2012 at 08:35:51PM -0500, Charles Kroeger wrote: hummm...I don't know but I care nothing for these code words squeeze wheezy sid etc. I prefer good 'ol stable testing unstable experimental. They both serve their own purposes. The code names continue to point at the same

Re: Packaging MATE for Debian

2012-12-03 Thread Jon Dowland
On Mon, Dec 03, 2012 at 03:39:03PM -0500, Jeremy Bicha wrote: What's so bad about evince that you need to use a forked version anyway? Or gnome-icon-theme, gnome-keyring, gnome-terminal, etc. This is drifting off the topic at hand, please, take it to another list if you want to continue down

Re: Packaging MATE for Debian

2012-12-03 Thread Jon Dowland
On Mon, Dec 03, 2012 at 02:06:03AM +0100, Adam Borowski wrote: You can use the upstream packaging, available at: deb http://packages.mate-desktop.org/repo/debian wheezy main Thanks but I'm interested in possibly helping an effort to package MATE in Debian, rather than run it myself. So from

Re: Problem With exim4 smtp authenication

2012-12-03 Thread Jon Dowland
Do either your username or password have a colon character in them? Do you need to connect to a particular port on the remote SMTP server in order to authenticate (e.g., some may accept authentication on the default SMTP port, some might not - you may need to connect to the submission port.) --

Re: Packaging MATE for Debian

2012-12-02 Thread Jon Dowland
On Sun, Dec 02, 2012 at 01:26:50PM +0100, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: Hey, On Wed, Nov 21, 2012 at 11:22:52AM +0100, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: I'd therefore like to ask if anyone here would be willing to help me to get MATE into Debian for Jessie. I'd like to ping back and

Re: wheezy and gcc 4.3 (and maybe 4.5)

2012-12-02 Thread Jon Dowland
I feel your pain. I've tried to do much the same thing to diagnose old kernel bugs. I recommend installing squeeze on a small root partition entirely separately. (or older than squeeze if necessary) -- I pledge not to post to any systemd-related thread on -devel until (at least) 2013. -- To

Re: Dying hard drive?

2012-12-02 Thread Jon Dowland
On Sat, Dec 01, 2012 at 08:04:52PM +1300, Chris Bannister wrote: Have a look at the /etc/inittab file. I have: # less /etc/inittab [...] # What to do when CTRL-ALT-DEL is pressed. ca:12345:ctrlaltdel:/sbin/shutdown -t1 -a -r now I'm fairly sure that X eats CTRL-ALT-DEL and init doesn't

Re: Really, about udev, not init sytsems

2012-11-30 Thread Jon Dowland
On Fri, Nov 30, 2012 at 12:19:22PM +0100, Salvo Tomaselli wrote: I am using systemd on my laptop, i have a very default system configuration, (except that i compile my own kernel to avoid initrd)… ^^ …if I, with a normal, standard desktop

Re: Candidates for removal from testing (2012-11-30)

2012-11-30 Thread Jon Dowland
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Re: Candidates for removal from testing (2012-11-30)

2012-11-30 Thread Jon Dowland
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Re: Really, about udev, not init sytsems

2012-11-29 Thread Jon Dowland
On Fri, Nov 30, 2012 at 12:55:13AM +0800, Thomas Goirand wrote: However, you are running Gentoo and rebuild your kernel, why would you bother with such thing as kernel modules and initrd? The thing is, many (most? all?) Gentoo user, as far as I understand (I'm not a Gentoo user), do not use

Re: which package has a binary like this sendmail one in exim?

2012-11-29 Thread Jon Dowland
On Wed, Nov 28, 2012 at 09:40:18PM +0100, Cosme Domínguez Díaz wrote: El 28/11/12 19:42, Britton Kerin escribió: Does anyone know what debian package provides the /usr/bin/sendmail program ^^^ or its equivalent like on the first system

Re: which package has a binary like this sendmail one in exim?

2012-11-29 Thread Jon Dowland
Some interesting replies , many of which seem to have not read your message ;) On Wed, Nov 28, 2012 at 09:42:31AM -0900, Britton Kerin wrote: I know exim sometimes contains a sendmail binary because on one system I get this: britt...@brittonkerin.com [~]# sendmail --version Exim version

Re: Really, about udev, not init sytsems

2012-11-28 Thread Jon Dowland
I had a half-drafted message to the same effect, but deleted it earlier. Thanks Neil for speaking up. I have to say Thomas, many recent messages from you across many threads, mostly on -devel but also elsewhere, have seemed to have very little in the way of polite, constructive content, advancing

Re: the right bug severity in case of data corruption

2012-11-28 Thread Jon Dowland
On Wed, Nov 28, 2012 at 03:34:32PM +, Darren Salt wrote: Having just viewed the raw text of my message (as sent), there's one other little wrinkle which I already knew but had failed to consider and which makes testing of this useless: gpg handles any 'From ' lines itself in a reversible

Re: the right bug severity in case of data corruption

2012-11-28 Thread Jon Dowland
On Wed, Nov 28, 2012 at 05:29:20PM +, Jon Dowland wrote: The following SHOULD be 0, 1, and 2 levels of quoting, first to last. It was for me (Maildir) Just rechecked, I'm wrong - the first line was quoted. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org

Re: The other diversity statement

2012-11-28 Thread Jon Dowland
Thanks for fanning the flames. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-vote-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20121128101056.GB31889@debian

Re: how many users is enough? (was Re: Debian Installer 7.0 Beta4 release)

2012-11-28 Thread Jon Dowland
On Wed, Nov 28, 2012 at 03:47:46PM +0100, Slavko wrote: Ubuntu leaves 93 % of packages untouched and changes/additions are done only to 7 % from them (statistic by some Ubuntu Debian developer - sorry i have no link). Then Ubuntu has significantly less to do... That's a flawed argument. It

Re: how many users is enough? (was Re: Debian Installer 7.0 Beta4 release)

2012-11-28 Thread Jon Dowland
On Wed, Nov 28, 2012 at 11:00:07AM -0500, Miles Fidelman wrote: Jon Dowland wrote: On Wed, Nov 28, 2012 at 03:47:46PM +0100, Slavko wrote: Ubuntu leaves 93 % of packages untouched and changes/additions are done only to 7 % from them (statistic by some Ubuntu Debian developer - sorry i have

Re: help

2012-11-28 Thread Jon Dowland
Hi - • I was not able to figure what you need help with from your mail • please use a descriptive subject when posting to this list • please do not send HTML to this list -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact

Re: the right bug severity in case of data corruption

2012-11-27 Thread Jon Dowland
For anyone else following along at home who is slightly puzzled by all this, http://homepage.ntlworld.com/jonathan.deboynepollard/FGA/mail-mbox-formats.html explains the different mbox formats, what 'From_' means, etc. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a

Re: lib- prefix for non-library (was: Bug#693998: ITP: linux-minidisc -- Free software for accessing NetMD and HiMD MiniDisc devices)

2012-11-27 Thread Jon Dowland
On Mon, Nov 26, 2012 at 05:41:35PM -0400, David Prévot wrote: Seems weird to see another non-library ending up in the pool/main/libr/ directory of our archive (and yet another special case to handle for tools like deborphan). It would be nice to avoid the lib- prefix for non-library. Nice,

Bug#694520: chocolate-doom: there are no humans in Maintainer:/Uploaders: fields

2012-11-27 Thread Jon Dowland
Package: chocolate-doom Version: 1.7.0-1 Severity: serious Justification: policy section 3.3 There are no humans in the Uploaders or Maintainers fields for this version of the package, which is a policy violation. -- System Information: Debian Release: wheezy/sid APT prefers testing APT

Bug#692506: unblock: chocolate-doom/1.7.0-2 (but please see inside!)

2012-11-27 Thread Jon Dowland
Hi, just a ping for this - I hadn't filed a bug for the issue that the unblock would resolve, I have now - #694520 On Tue, Nov 06, 2012 at 09:53:38PM +, Jon Dowland wrote: Package: release.debian.org Severity: normal User: release.debian@packages.debian.org Usertags: unblock Hi

Re: hdd failing messages false positive or failure

2012-11-27 Thread Jon Dowland
On Tue, Nov 27, 2012 at 11:53:46AM -0500, Brian West wrote: do the pre fails mean im failing or is this a false positive. should i replace the esata cable thanks for the help. Make sure the cable is seated properly. It might be worth trying another cable too. If you don't have backups yet, make

Bug#694520: chocolate-doom: there are no humans in Maintainer:/Uploaders: fields

2012-11-27 Thread Jon Dowland
Package: chocolate-doom Version: 1.7.0-1 Severity: serious Justification: policy section 3.3 There are no humans in the Uploaders or Maintainers fields for this version of the package, which is a policy violation. -- System Information: Debian Release: wheezy/sid APT prefers testing APT

Re: Debian Installer 7.0 Beta4 release

2012-11-27 Thread Jon Dowland
On Mon, Nov 26, 2012 at 08:19:01PM +, Russell L. Harris wrote: The best solution for the I must have the very latest, and I must have it now crowd is to switch over to Ubuntu. You can have it right, or you can have it now, but seldom can you have it right now. I must have the very latest…

how many users is enough? (was Re: Debian Installer 7.0 Beta4 release)

2012-11-27 Thread Jon Dowland
On Tue, Nov 27, 2012 at 12:39:54AM +, Russell L. Harris wrote: Let's welcome more (I assume we do want more users on our base, don't we? There needs to be a critical mass; but beyond that point, an increase in numbers is not necessarily beneficial. Agreed for 'mere' users, but another

sh (was Re: About standards Was: Re: Debian Installer 7.0 Beta4 release)

2012-11-27 Thread Jon Dowland
On Tue, Nov 27, 2012 at 11:30:20AM +0100, Ralf Mardorf wrote: Also very nice is the output of $ ls -l /bin/sh for Ubuntu it's not bash. For modern Debian installations it's not bash either. Switching /bin/sh to dash by default was done principally to make boot times quicker (dash is

shells (was Re: About standards Was: Re: Debian Installer 7.0 Beta4 release)

2012-11-27 Thread Jon Dowland
On Tue, Nov 27, 2012 at 12:53:30PM +0100, Morel Bérenger wrote: People can use other things than bash, I do not see the problem. And I think that someday I'll try zsh or csh. When I'll have the time :D You should go really left-field and try rc! (but not for /bin/sh.) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE,

Re: sh (was Re: About standards Was: Re: Debian Installer 7.0 Beta4 release)

2012-11-27 Thread Jon Dowland
On Tue, Nov 27, 2012 at 02:29:15PM +0100, Ralf Mardorf wrote: Does it really carry weight? With sysvinit, which spawns a lot of sh instances, yes. With something like systemd, no - it tries to solve the same problem in part by not spawning a shell lots of times. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to

Re: Dying hard drive?

2012-11-27 Thread Jon Dowland
First and foremost, double check that your SATA cables are properly secure. Install smartctl and run smartctl -a /dev/$disk0 (where $disk0 is e.g. sda); check to see if any of the various SMART attributes indicate a problem. Run a short, then a long SMART self test smartctl -t short

Re: shells (was Re: About standards Was: Re: Debian Installer 7.0 Beta4 release)

2012-11-27 Thread Jon Dowland
On Tue, Nov 27, 2012 at 12:17:50PM -0300, Beco wrote: Never heard of it. What is rc? A shell. It's packaged in Debian, oddly enough in package 'rc'. May I suggest you try apt-cache show rc, or google? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of

Re: sh (was Re: About standards Was: Re: Debian Installer 7.0 Beta4 release)

2012-11-27 Thread Jon Dowland
On Tue, Nov 27, 2012 at 03:11:54PM +, Lisi Reisz wrote: Thanks for the information, Jon. I hadn't realised that! I've merrily carried on using bash. :-/ Bash is a lot friendlier and better suited as a login or interactive shell. The startup time is not so important for that situation.

Re: Debian Installer 7.0 Beta4 release

2012-11-27 Thread Jon Dowland
On Tue, Nov 27, 2012 at 03:24:07PM +, Lisi Reisz wrote: And I'd *really* like to continue having stable software, and no release till it's ready. I don't think those two things are incompatible with each other. One of the many things that I dislike about Ubuntu, is its habit of releasing

Re: UEFI install

2012-11-27 Thread Jon Dowland
On Tue, Nov 27, 2012 at 08:47:47PM +0100, Erwan David wrote: I got a new Lenovo T530, I added a SSD as second disk, and now have a win7, UEFI boot on MBR partitionned sdb disk. I tried latest beta installer for wheezy (beta4), but it could not boot in UEFI mode (I got a text menu writtent

Re: How to prevent daemons from starting at boot after update?

2012-11-27 Thread Jon Dowland
One option would be to install and use systemd. Afaik with systemd, one can use socket-based activation: that is, systemd listens on the socket that your daemons will use and only starts those daemons if something connects. You may need to manually configure that behaviour, I don't know whether

Re: shells (was Re: About standards Was: Re: Debian Installer 7.0 Beta4 release)

2012-11-27 Thread Jon Dowland
On Tue, Nov 27, 2012 at 03:43:00PM -0300, Beco wrote: I tried google, but without more keywords, rc was too little to search. Good point, sorry. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org

Re: Dying hard drive?

2012-11-27 Thread Jon Dowland
On Tue, Nov 27, 2012 at 02:50:39PM -0600, Nelson Green wrote: 197 Current_Pending_Sector  0x0032   200   200   000    Old_age   Always   -   12 I think this is bad. Num  Test_Description    Status  Remaining  LifeTime(hours)  LBA_of_first_error # 1  Short offline   

Re: Bug#692506: unblock: chocolate-doom/1.7.0-2 (but please see inside!)

2012-11-27 Thread Jon Dowland
Hi, just a ping for this - I hadn't filed a bug for the issue that the unblock would resolve, I have now - #694520 On Tue, Nov 06, 2012 at 09:53:38PM +, Jon Dowland wrote: Package: release.debian.org Severity: normal User: release.debian@packages.debian.org Usertags: unblock Hi

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