Re: [all-audio] Differences in audio recording quality

[Hamit Campos]

For the person that said they couldn't find the test files page on the 
auidio site Dain provided here's the deal. So ya know that as ya go in 
there's a downloads link? It's on that page. What it is it looks like 
they put some files there for you to practise downloading stuff. I guess 
so yu can see what your PC can take maybe? Cause it's in the explanation 
on how to download and the choises you can make.



On 4/1/2018 3:24 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote:

I’ve given this some thought and have decided that - for the purposes of this 
discussion - the participants should be able to hear for themselves the 
differences that high sampling rates etc offer so here’s a way.
There a site called http://www.melbarecordings.com.au 
 which is an independent classical record 
label.
If you go through the site you’ll see a section labeled something like test 
recordings.
Follow the links and you’ll find test recordings in different formats and 
sampling rates you can download or preview.
The first thing I’ll say here is don’t be at all surprised if the higher 
sampling rate files don’t work on your computer system after all! Its all 
hardware dependent and some sound devices don’t support above 48K.



On 2 Apr 2018, at 4:10 am, Hamit Campos  wrote:

Ah I can hear up to 18 K. But I wana see how much difference I can really hear. 
Thing is I've done it with an LS-14 but of course this isn't as pro as the H6 
is. Maybe an LS-100 would be but saddly couldn't get that.


On 4/1/2018 2:08 PM, tim cumings wrote:

Inmy jhumble opinion, recording at 96 khz 24 kbps is really a waste of time. 
Even with perfect hearing most people can't hear above 22 khz anyway.



On 3/31/2018 11:07 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote:

Unfortunately the chap who has been employed to do it didn’t turn up and I was 
annoyed about it to say the least so I’ll be following that one up after the Easter 
holiday break ends, Happy Easter and Happy listening/recording to you all by the way 
.



On 1 Apr 2018, at 12:55 pm, Hamit Campos  wrote:

Were you able to record the tree chopping?


On 3/31/2018 10:18 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote:

Hmm.. I'm not sure where you got that info from?

Unless I'm totally wrong I understand that whatever the sampling rate is set to 
then that goes so if you're set to 96K 24-bit then go for your life with the 
whole 6 tracks.

There are two things you have to be aware of and the first is SD card size as 
you'd need something large to do 6 tracks at 96K 24-bit.

Second is that once the sample rate is chosen then that's all you can down mix 
to so in other words if you're performing a down mix on the H6 then everything 
you choose in your project has to be of the same sampling rate.



On 27/03/2018 10:25 AM, Hamit Campos wrote:

Ah that's fine. it won't let you go all the way to 96 KHz 24 bits if you go 
beyond stereo anyways. So Stereo is fine. I just wana hear the recorder's 
capabilities at full glorious HD.


On 3/26/2018 7:02 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote:

Unfortunately I'll only be using 2 channels to make a stereo recording, I only have 
so many microphones you know .



On 27/03/2018 9:48 AM, Hamit Campos wrote:

Ah sure that will be interesting. I'd love to hear this thing fully unleashed.


On 3/26/2018 6:07 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote:

I’m recoding a tree bing felled today so I’ll put that up later if this would 
help.



On 27 Mar 2018, at 8:21 am, Hamit Campos  wrote:

Dain, I've heard the mikes on Neal's podcast. But can you send me some stuff in 
full glorious 96 KHz 24 bits HD? After all neal's podcast is just an MP3. My 
email if you wana send it to me dirrectly is hamitcam...@gmail.com. I'd say 
just some out doors stuff but don't know how it's there in your part of 
Australia. Don't want ya to freese or something. lol


On 3/26/2018 11:09 AM, Dane Trethowan wrote:

Hi!
Thanks to the list member who recommended the Zoom H6 recorder, I’ve had mine 
for a month and to say I’m pleased with this recorder is indeed an 
understatement.
The Zoom H6 is the best field recorder I’ve ever owned for so many reasons 
which include usability.
The ability to record 6 tracks at once right out of the box is a plus as none 
of the recorders I have will do that.
The sound from the supplied microphone capsules has to be heard to be believed 
as it sounds so much better than most other supplied microphones for field 
recorders you’re likely to hear.
All of the functions I use are accessible without the help of the menu system 
though I do plan to write a menu shortcuts document for the recorder though its 
the usual thing of finding time.








































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[all-audio] Soundblaster USB Audio HD

[Dane Trethowan]

Don’t talk to me about Sound Blaster .
I’m a little disappointed with the Audio HD device I purchased.
Every other device has no trouble with the digital output of my Cable box but 
the Audio HD from Sound Blaster just refuses to play ball.
Now perhaps I’m over reacting and perhaps the Sound Blaster Audio HD is only 
designed to be used with certain Audio Digital sources but I did expect a 
little better than that.
No, the Soundblaster Audio HD doesn’t support surround-sound given its a 
straight stereo audio HD device but I would have thought that it would have 
supported digital out from a cable Set Top Box or television.
Anyway besides all that the Soundblaster HD Audio is a very nice piece of kit 
and a very cheap way of bringing Digital music from your computer to your Hi-Fi 
setup, you certainly get far better quality audio out of this than your usual 
computer sound card.
The headphone amp is also very good.


> On 2 Apr 2018, at 9:07 am, Hamit Campos  wrote:
> 
> Yeah lots of the Onkyo AVRs will supposedly do 384 32 bit. They have 384 K 32 
> bit dacs. Some of the new Sound Blasters go to 385K. I just don't know how 1 
> records that. Soundforge pro use to be able to go to 32 bit. But I don't know 
> of an interface or anything like that that whill do this.
> 
> 
> On 4/1/2018 5:54 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote:
>> Its also used for audio mastering though higher rates are used these days.
>> 
>> I'm yet to hear a recording at 384K 32 bit as that the maximum my Rotel A14 
>> Amp will handle.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On 2/04/2018 4:12 AM, Matthew Chao wrote:
>>> Hi, Tim.  True, but 96K is required for commercial broadcasting.--Matt, 
>>> N1IBB.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 4/1/2018 2:08 PM, tim cumings wrote:
 Inmy jhumble opinion, recording at 96 khz 24 kbps is really a waste of 
 time. Even with perfect hearing most people can't hear above 22 khz anyway.
 
 
 
 On 3/31/2018 11:07 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote:
> Unfortunately the chap who has been employed to do it didn’t turn up and 
> I was annoyed about it to say the least so I’ll be following that one up 
> after the Easter holiday break ends, Happy Easter and Happy 
> listening/recording to you all by the way .
> 
> 
>> On 1 Apr 2018, at 12:55 pm, Hamit Campos  wrote:
>> 
>> Were you able to record the tree chopping?
>> 
>> 
>> On 3/31/2018 10:18 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote:
>>> Hmm.. I'm not sure where you got that info from?
>>> 
>>> Unless I'm totally wrong I understand that whatever the sampling rate 
>>> is set to then that goes so if you're set to 96K 24-bit then go for 
>>> your life with the whole 6 tracks.
>>> 
>>> There are two things you have to be aware of and the first is SD card 
>>> size as you'd need something large to do 6 tracks at 96K 24-bit.
>>> 
>>> Second is that once the sample rate is chosen then that's all you can 
>>> down mix to so in other words if you're performing a down mix on the H6 
>>> then everything you choose in your project has to be of the same 
>>> sampling rate.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 27/03/2018 10:25 AM, Hamit Campos wrote:
 Ah that's fine. it won't let you go all the way to 96 KHz 24 bits if 
 you go beyond stereo anyways. So Stereo is fine. I just wana hear the 
 recorder's capabilities at full glorious HD.
 
 
 On 3/26/2018 7:02 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote:
> Unfortunately I'll only be using 2 channels to make a stereo 
> recording, I only have so many microphones you know .
> 
> 
> 
> On 27/03/2018 9:48 AM, Hamit Campos wrote:
>> Ah sure that will be interesting. I'd love to hear this thing fully 
>> unleashed.
>> 
>> 
>> On 3/26/2018 6:07 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote:
>>> I’m recoding a tree bing felled today so I’ll put that up later if 
>>> this would help.
>>> 
>>> 
 On 27 Mar 2018, at 8:21 am, Hamit Campos  
 wrote:
 
 Dain, I've heard the mikes on Neal's podcast. But can you send me 
 some stuff in full glorious 96 KHz 24 bits HD? After all neal's 
 podcast is just an MP3. My email if you wana send it to me 
 dirrectly is hamitcam...@gmail.com. I'd say just some out doors 
 stuff but don't know how it's there in your part of Australia. 
 Don't want ya to freese or something. lol
 
 
 On 3/26/2018 11:09 AM, Dane Trethowan wrote:
> Hi!
> Thanks to the list member who recommended the Zoom H6 recorder, 
> I’ve had mine for a month and to say I’m pleased with this 
> recorder is indeed an understatement.
> The Zoom H6 is the best field recorder I’ve ever owned for 

Re: [all-audio] Zoom H6 thanks for the recommendation

[Hamit Campos]

Yeah lots of the Onkyo AVRs will supposedly do 384 32 bit. They have 384 
K 32 bit dacs. Some of the new Sound Blasters go to 385K. I just don't 
know how 1 records that. Soundforge pro use to be able to go to 32 bit. 
But I don't know of an interface or anything like that that whill do this.



On 4/1/2018 5:54 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote:
Its also used for audio mastering though higher rates are used these 
days.


I'm yet to hear a recording at 384K 32 bit as that the maximum my 
Rotel A14 Amp will handle.




On 2/04/2018 4:12 AM, Matthew Chao wrote:
Hi, Tim.  True, but 96K is required for commercial 
broadcasting.--Matt, N1IBB.




On 4/1/2018 2:08 PM, tim cumings wrote:
Inmy jhumble opinion, recording at 96 khz 24 kbps is really a waste 
of time. Even with perfect hearing most people can't hear above 22 
khz anyway.




On 3/31/2018 11:07 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote:
Unfortunately the chap who has been employed to do it didn’t turn 
up and I was annoyed about it to say the least so I’ll be following 
that one up after the Easter holiday break ends, Happy Easter and 
Happy listening/recording to you all by the way .



On 1 Apr 2018, at 12:55 pm, Hamit Campos  
wrote:


Were you able to record the tree chopping?


On 3/31/2018 10:18 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote:

Hmm.. I'm not sure where you got that info from?

Unless I'm totally wrong I understand that whatever the sampling 
rate is set to then that goes so if you're set to 96K 24-bit then 
go for your life with the whole 6 tracks.


There are two things you have to be aware of and the first is SD 
card size as you'd need something large to do 6 tracks at 96K 
24-bit.


Second is that once the sample rate is chosen then that's all you 
can down mix to so in other words if you're performing a down mix 
on the H6 then everything you choose in your project has to be of 
the same sampling rate.




On 27/03/2018 10:25 AM, Hamit Campos wrote:
Ah that's fine. it won't let you go all the way to 96 KHz 24 
bits if you go beyond stereo anyways. So Stereo is fine. I just 
wana hear the recorder's capabilities at full glorious HD.



On 3/26/2018 7:02 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote:
Unfortunately I'll only be using 2 channels to make a stereo 
recording, I only have so many microphones you know .




On 27/03/2018 9:48 AM, Hamit Campos wrote:
Ah sure that will be interesting. I'd love to hear this thing 
fully unleashed.



On 3/26/2018 6:07 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote:
I’m recoding a tree bing felled today so I’ll put that up 
later if this would help.



On 27 Mar 2018, at 8:21 am, Hamit Campos 
 wrote:


Dain, I've heard the mikes on Neal's podcast. But can you 
send me some stuff in full glorious 96 KHz 24 bits HD? After 
all neal's podcast is just an MP3. My email if you wana send 
it to me dirrectly is hamitcam...@gmail.com. I'd say just 
some out doors stuff but don't know how it's there in your 
part of Australia. Don't want ya to freese or something. lol



On 3/26/2018 11:09 AM, Dane Trethowan wrote:

Hi!
Thanks to the list member who recommended the Zoom H6 
recorder, I’ve had mine for a month and to say I’m pleased 
with this recorder is indeed an understatement.
The Zoom H6 is the best field recorder I’ve ever owned for 
so many reasons which include usability.
The ability to record 6 tracks at once right out of the box 
is a plus as none of the recorders I have will do that.
The sound from the supplied microphone capsules has to be 
heard to be believed as it sounds so much better than most 
other supplied microphones for field recorders you’re 
likely to hear.
All of the functions I use are accessible without the help 
of the menu system though I do plan to write a menu 
shortcuts document for the recorder though its the usual 
thing of finding time.















































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Re: [all-audio] Differences in audio recording quality

[John Covici]

hmmm, I cannot find anything that says test recordings on that site.
I tried with two different browsers, in case I was missing something.

On Sun, 01 Apr 2018 15:24:17 -0400,
Dane Trethowan wrote:
> 
> I’ve given this some thought and have decided that - for the purposes of this 
> discussion - the participants should be able to hear for themselves the 
> differences that high sampling rates etc offer so here’s a way.
> There a site called http://www.melbarecordings.com.au 
>  which is an independent classical record 
> label.
> If you go through the site you’ll see a section labeled something like test 
> recordings.
> Follow the links and you’ll find test recordings in different formats and 
> sampling rates you can download or preview.
> The first thing I’ll say here is don’t be at all surprised if the higher 
> sampling rate files don’t work on your computer system after all! Its all 
> hardware dependent and some sound devices don’t support above 48K.
> 
> 
> > On 2 Apr 2018, at 4:10 am, Hamit Campos  wrote:
> > 
> > Ah I can hear up to 18 K. But I wana see how much difference I can really 
> > hear. Thing is I've done it with an LS-14 but of course this isn't as pro 
> > as the H6 is. Maybe an LS-100 would be but saddly couldn't get that.
> > 
> > 
> > On 4/1/2018 2:08 PM, tim cumings wrote:
> >> Inmy jhumble opinion, recording at 96 khz 24 kbps is really a waste of 
> >> time. Even with perfect hearing most people can't hear above 22 khz anyway.
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> On 3/31/2018 11:07 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote:
> >>> Unfortunately the chap who has been employed to do it didn’t turn up and 
> >>> I was annoyed about it to say the least so I’ll be following that one up 
> >>> after the Easter holiday break ends, Happy Easter and Happy 
> >>> listening/recording to you all by the way .
> >>> 
> >>> 
>  On 1 Apr 2018, at 12:55 pm, Hamit Campos  wrote:
>  
>  Were you able to record the tree chopping?
>  
>  
>  On 3/31/2018 10:18 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote:
> > Hmm.. I'm not sure where you got that info from?
> > 
> > Unless I'm totally wrong I understand that whatever the sampling rate 
> > is set to then that goes so if you're set to 96K 24-bit then go for 
> > your life with the whole 6 tracks.
> > 
> > There are two things you have to be aware of and the first is SD card 
> > size as you'd need something large to do 6 tracks at 96K 24-bit.
> > 
> > Second is that once the sample rate is chosen then that's all you can 
> > down mix to so in other words if you're performing a down mix on the H6 
> > then everything you choose in your project has to be of the same 
> > sampling rate.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > On 27/03/2018 10:25 AM, Hamit Campos wrote:
> >> Ah that's fine. it won't let you go all the way to 96 KHz 24 bits if 
> >> you go beyond stereo anyways. So Stereo is fine. I just wana hear the 
> >> recorder's capabilities at full glorious HD.
> >> 
> >> 
> >> On 3/26/2018 7:02 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote:
> >>> Unfortunately I'll only be using 2 channels to make a stereo 
> >>> recording, I only have so many microphones you know .
> >>> 
> >>> 
> >>> 
> >>> On 27/03/2018 9:48 AM, Hamit Campos wrote:
>  Ah sure that will be interesting. I'd love to hear this thing fully 
>  unleashed.
>  
>  
>  On 3/26/2018 6:07 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote:
> > I’m recoding a tree bing felled today so I’ll put that up later if 
> > this would help.
> > 
> > 
> >> On 27 Mar 2018, at 8:21 am, Hamit Campos  
> >> wrote:
> >> 
> >> Dain, I've heard the mikes on Neal's podcast. But can you send me 
> >> some stuff in full glorious 96 KHz 24 bits HD? After all neal's 
> >> podcast is just an MP3. My email if you wana send it to me 
> >> dirrectly is hamitcam...@gmail.com. I'd say just some out doors 
> >> stuff but don't know how it's there in your part of Australia. 
> >> Don't want ya to freese or something. lol
> >> 
> >> 
> >> On 3/26/2018 11:09 AM, Dane Trethowan wrote:
> >>> Hi!
> >>> Thanks to the list member who recommended the Zoom H6 recorder, 
> >>> I’ve had mine for a month and to say I’m pleased with this 
> >>> recorder is indeed an understatement.
> >>> The Zoom H6 is the best field recorder I’ve ever owned for so 
> >>> many reasons which include usability.
> >>> The ability to record 6 tracks at once right out of the box is a 
> >>> plus as none of the recorders I have will do that.
> >>> The sound from the supplied microphone capsules has to be heard 
> >>> to be believed as it sounds so much better than most other 
> 

Re: [all-audio] Differences in audio recording quality

[Kelly Pierce]

Besides sampeling rate, the number of bits of each filee influences
heavily the sound quality. I like to record in 24 bit audio when I
can. CD quality is 16 bit. bits refer to the size of each sample.
Bigger samples mean a greater range of audio is captured in each
sample. Even with spoken word recordings, 24 bit at 48 or 56k samples
sounds like the speaker is in the room!  bigger samples for spoken
word don't impress these ears and they are a hassle to edit.

Kelly

On 4/1/18, Hamit Campos  wrote:
> Ah thanks for this. I'll get to the site right away. I do believe in HD.
> I do hear some more brightness, more openness and harshness on Blu-ray
> disks vs the DVDs but this will be good to hear. Cause like I said I've
> done different format files on my LS-14 but remember that thing ain't a
> pro recorder. Well it's part of Olympus's pro line, but it's like the
> little side arm if ya will to the main big gunn of the LS-100. Also I've
> not heard HD threw real pro mikes like my AT-8022 or thee awesome Rode
> NT1-A neal always uses. Man if I ever get even an LS-100 I'd totally get
> a pare of those.
>
>
> On 4/1/2018 3:24 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote:
>> I’ve given this some thought and have decided that - for the purposes of
>> this discussion - the participants should be able to hear for themselves
>> the differences that high sampling rates etc offer so here’s a way.
>> There a site called http://www.melbarecordings.com.au
>>  which is an independent classical
>> record label.
>> If you go through the site you’ll see a section labeled something like
>> test recordings.
>> Follow the links and you’ll find test recordings in different formats and
>> sampling rates you can download or preview.
>> The first thing I’ll say here is don’t be at all surprised if the higher
>> sampling rate files don’t work on your computer system after all! Its all
>> hardware dependent and some sound devices don’t support above 48K.
>>
>>
>>> On 2 Apr 2018, at 4:10 am, Hamit Campos  wrote:
>>>
>>> Ah I can hear up to 18 K. But I wana see how much difference I can really
>>> hear. Thing is I've done it with an LS-14 but of course this isn't as pro
>>> as the H6 is. Maybe an LS-100 would be but saddly couldn't get that.
>>>
>>>
>>> On 4/1/2018 2:08 PM, tim cumings wrote:
 Inmy jhumble opinion, recording at 96 khz 24 kbps is really a waste of
 time. Even with perfect hearing most people can't hear above 22 khz
 anyway.



 On 3/31/2018 11:07 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote:
> Unfortunately the chap who has been employed to do it didn’t turn up
> and I was annoyed about it to say the least so I’ll be following that
> one up after the Easter holiday break ends, Happy Easter and Happy
> listening/recording to you all by the way .
>
>
>> On 1 Apr 2018, at 12:55 pm, Hamit Campos 
>> wrote:
>>
>> Were you able to record the tree chopping?
>>
>>
>> On 3/31/2018 10:18 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote:
>>> Hmm.. I'm not sure where you got that info from?
>>>
>>> Unless I'm totally wrong I understand that whatever the sampling rate
>>> is set to then that goes so if you're set to 96K 24-bit then go for
>>> your life with the whole 6 tracks.
>>>
>>> There are two things you have to be aware of and the first is SD card
>>> size as you'd need something large to do 6 tracks at 96K 24-bit.
>>>
>>> Second is that once the sample rate is chosen then that's all you can
>>> down mix to so in other words if you're performing a down mix on the
>>> H6 then everything you choose in your project has to be of the same
>>> sampling rate.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 27/03/2018 10:25 AM, Hamit Campos wrote:
 Ah that's fine. it won't let you go all the way to 96 KHz 24 bits if
 you go beyond stereo anyways. So Stereo is fine. I just wana hear
 the recorder's capabilities at full glorious HD.


 On 3/26/2018 7:02 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote:
> Unfortunately I'll only be using 2 channels to make a stereo
> recording, I only have so many microphones you know .
>
>
>
> On 27/03/2018 9:48 AM, Hamit Campos wrote:
>> Ah sure that will be interesting. I'd love to hear this thing
>> fully unleashed.
>>
>>
>> On 3/26/2018 6:07 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote:
>>> I’m recoding a tree bing felled today so I’ll put that up later
>>> if this would help.
>>>
>>>
 On 27 Mar 2018, at 8:21 am, Hamit Campos 
 wrote:

 Dain, I've heard the mikes on Neal's podcast. But can you send
 me some stuff in full glorious 96 KHz 24 bits HD? After all
 neal's podcast is just an MP3. My email if you wana send it to

Re: [all-audio] Zoom H6 thanks for the recommendation

[Dane Trethowan]

Its also used for audio mastering though higher rates are used these days.

I'm yet to hear a recording at 384K 32 bit as that the maximum my Rotel 
A14 Amp will handle.




On 2/04/2018 4:12 AM, Matthew Chao wrote:
Hi, Tim.  True, but 96K is required for commercial 
broadcasting.--Matt, N1IBB.




On 4/1/2018 2:08 PM, tim cumings wrote:
Inmy jhumble opinion, recording at 96 khz 24 kbps is really a waste 
of time. Even with perfect hearing most people can't hear above 22 
khz anyway.




On 3/31/2018 11:07 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote:
Unfortunately the chap who has been employed to do it didn’t turn up 
and I was annoyed about it to say the least so I’ll be following 
that one up after the Easter holiday break ends, Happy Easter and 
Happy listening/recording to you all by the way .



On 1 Apr 2018, at 12:55 pm, Hamit Campos  
wrote:


Were you able to record the tree chopping?


On 3/31/2018 10:18 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote:

Hmm.. I'm not sure where you got that info from?

Unless I'm totally wrong I understand that whatever the sampling 
rate is set to then that goes so if you're set to 96K 24-bit then 
go for your life with the whole 6 tracks.


There are two things you have to be aware of and the first is SD 
card size as you'd need something large to do 6 tracks at 96K 24-bit.


Second is that once the sample rate is chosen then that's all you 
can down mix to so in other words if you're performing a down mix 
on the H6 then everything you choose in your project has to be of 
the same sampling rate.




On 27/03/2018 10:25 AM, Hamit Campos wrote:
Ah that's fine. it won't let you go all the way to 96 KHz 24 bits 
if you go beyond stereo anyways. So Stereo is fine. I just wana 
hear the recorder's capabilities at full glorious HD.



On 3/26/2018 7:02 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote:
Unfortunately I'll only be using 2 channels to make a stereo 
recording, I only have so many microphones you know .




On 27/03/2018 9:48 AM, Hamit Campos wrote:
Ah sure that will be interesting. I'd love to hear this thing 
fully unleashed.



On 3/26/2018 6:07 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote:
I’m recoding a tree bing felled today so I’ll put that up 
later if this would help.



On 27 Mar 2018, at 8:21 am, Hamit Campos 
 wrote:


Dain, I've heard the mikes on Neal's podcast. But can you 
send me some stuff in full glorious 96 KHz 24 bits HD? After 
all neal's podcast is just an MP3. My email if you wana send 
it to me dirrectly is hamitcam...@gmail.com. I'd say just 
some out doors stuff but don't know how it's there in your 
part of Australia. Don't want ya to freese or something. lol



On 3/26/2018 11:09 AM, Dane Trethowan wrote:

Hi!
Thanks to the list member who recommended the Zoom H6 
recorder, I’ve had mine for a month and to say I’m pleased 
with this recorder is indeed an understatement.
The Zoom H6 is the best field recorder I’ve ever owned for 
so many reasons which include usability.
The ability to record 6 tracks at once right out of the box 
is a plus as none of the recorders I have will do that.
The sound from the supplied microphone capsules has to be 
heard to be believed as it sounds so much better than most 
other supplied microphones for field recorders you’re likely 
to hear.
All of the functions I use are accessible without the help 
of the menu system though I do plan to write a menu 
shortcuts document for the recorder though its the usual 
thing of finding time.











































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Re: [all-audio] Zoom H6 thanks for the recommendation

[Matthew Chao]

Hi, Tim.  True, but 96K is required for commercial broadcasting.--Matt, 
N1IBB.




On 4/1/2018 2:08 PM, tim cumings wrote:
Inmy jhumble opinion, recording at 96 khz 24 kbps is really a waste of 
time. Even with perfect hearing most people can't hear above 22 khz anyway.




On 3/31/2018 11:07 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote:
Unfortunately the chap who has been employed to do it didn’t turn up 
and I was annoyed about it to say the least so I’ll be following that 
one up after the Easter holiday break ends, Happy Easter and Happy 
listening/recording to you all by the way .




On 1 Apr 2018, at 12:55 pm, Hamit Campos  wrote:

Were you able to record the tree chopping?


On 3/31/2018 10:18 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote:

Hmm.. I'm not sure where you got that info from?

Unless I'm totally wrong I understand that whatever the sampling 
rate is set to then that goes so if you're set to 96K 24-bit then go 
for your life with the whole 6 tracks.


There are two things you have to be aware of and the first is SD 
card size as you'd need something large to do 6 tracks at 96K 24-bit.


Second is that once the sample rate is chosen then that's all you 
can down mix to so in other words if you're performing a down mix on 
the H6 then everything you choose in your project has to be of the 
same sampling rate.




On 27/03/2018 10:25 AM, Hamit Campos wrote:
Ah that's fine. it won't let you go all the way to 96 KHz 24 bits 
if you go beyond stereo anyways. So Stereo is fine. I just wana 
hear the recorder's capabilities at full glorious HD.



On 3/26/2018 7:02 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote:
Unfortunately I'll only be using 2 channels to make a stereo 
recording, I only have so many microphones you know .




On 27/03/2018 9:48 AM, Hamit Campos wrote:
Ah sure that will be interesting. I'd love to hear this thing 
fully unleashed.



On 3/26/2018 6:07 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote:
I’m recoding a tree bing felled today so I’ll put that up later 
if this would help.



On 27 Mar 2018, at 8:21 am, Hamit Campos 
 wrote:


Dain, I've heard the mikes on Neal's podcast. But can you send 
me some stuff in full glorious 96 KHz 24 bits HD? After all 
neal's podcast is just an MP3. My email if you wana send it to 
me dirrectly is hamitcam...@gmail.com. I'd say just some out 
doors stuff but don't know how it's there in your part of 
Australia. Don't want ya to freese or something. lol



On 3/26/2018 11:09 AM, Dane Trethowan wrote:

Hi!
Thanks to the list member who recommended the Zoom H6 
recorder, I’ve had mine for a month and to say I’m pleased 
with this recorder is indeed an understatement.
The Zoom H6 is the best field recorder I’ve ever owned for so 
many reasons which include usability.
The ability to record 6 tracks at once right out of the box is 
a plus as none of the recorders I have will do that.
The sound from the supplied microphone capsules has to be 
heard to be believed as it sounds so much better than most 
other supplied microphones for field recorders you’re likely 
to hear.
All of the functions I use are accessible without the help of 
the menu system though I do plan to write a menu shortcuts 
document for the recorder though its the usual thing of 
finding time.







































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[all-audio] Differences in audio recording quality

[Dane Trethowan]

I’ve given this some thought and have decided that - for the purposes of this 
discussion - the participants should be able to hear for themselves the 
differences that high sampling rates etc offer so here’s a way.
There a site called http://www.melbarecordings.com.au 
 which is an independent classical record 
label.
If you go through the site you’ll see a section labeled something like test 
recordings.
Follow the links and you’ll find test recordings in different formats and 
sampling rates you can download or preview.
The first thing I’ll say here is don’t be at all surprised if the higher 
sampling rate files don’t work on your computer system after all! Its all 
hardware dependent and some sound devices don’t support above 48K.


> On 2 Apr 2018, at 4:10 am, Hamit Campos  wrote:
> 
> Ah I can hear up to 18 K. But I wana see how much difference I can really 
> hear. Thing is I've done it with an LS-14 but of course this isn't as pro as 
> the H6 is. Maybe an LS-100 would be but saddly couldn't get that.
> 
> 
> On 4/1/2018 2:08 PM, tim cumings wrote:
>> Inmy jhumble opinion, recording at 96 khz 24 kbps is really a waste of time. 
>> Even with perfect hearing most people can't hear above 22 khz anyway.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On 3/31/2018 11:07 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote:
>>> Unfortunately the chap who has been employed to do it didn’t turn up and I 
>>> was annoyed about it to say the least so I’ll be following that one up 
>>> after the Easter holiday break ends, Happy Easter and Happy 
>>> listening/recording to you all by the way .
>>> 
>>> 
 On 1 Apr 2018, at 12:55 pm, Hamit Campos  wrote:
 
 Were you able to record the tree chopping?
 
 
 On 3/31/2018 10:18 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote:
> Hmm.. I'm not sure where you got that info from?
> 
> Unless I'm totally wrong I understand that whatever the sampling rate is 
> set to then that goes so if you're set to 96K 24-bit then go for your 
> life with the whole 6 tracks.
> 
> There are two things you have to be aware of and the first is SD card 
> size as you'd need something large to do 6 tracks at 96K 24-bit.
> 
> Second is that once the sample rate is chosen then that's all you can 
> down mix to so in other words if you're performing a down mix on the H6 
> then everything you choose in your project has to be of the same sampling 
> rate.
> 
> 
> 
> On 27/03/2018 10:25 AM, Hamit Campos wrote:
>> Ah that's fine. it won't let you go all the way to 96 KHz 24 bits if you 
>> go beyond stereo anyways. So Stereo is fine. I just wana hear the 
>> recorder's capabilities at full glorious HD.
>> 
>> 
>> On 3/26/2018 7:02 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote:
>>> Unfortunately I'll only be using 2 channels to make a stereo recording, 
>>> I only have so many microphones you know .
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 27/03/2018 9:48 AM, Hamit Campos wrote:
 Ah sure that will be interesting. I'd love to hear this thing fully 
 unleashed.
 
 
 On 3/26/2018 6:07 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote:
> I’m recoding a tree bing felled today so I’ll put that up later if 
> this would help.
> 
> 
>> On 27 Mar 2018, at 8:21 am, Hamit Campos  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Dain, I've heard the mikes on Neal's podcast. But can you send me 
>> some stuff in full glorious 96 KHz 24 bits HD? After all neal's 
>> podcast is just an MP3. My email if you wana send it to me dirrectly 
>> is hamitcam...@gmail.com. I'd say just some out doors stuff but 
>> don't know how it's there in your part of Australia. Don't want ya 
>> to freese or something. lol
>> 
>> 
>> On 3/26/2018 11:09 AM, Dane Trethowan wrote:
>>> Hi!
>>> Thanks to the list member who recommended the Zoom H6 recorder, 
>>> I’ve had mine for a month and to say I’m pleased with this recorder 
>>> is indeed an understatement.
>>> The Zoom H6 is the best field recorder I’ve ever owned for so many 
>>> reasons which include usability.
>>> The ability to record 6 tracks at once right out of the box is a 
>>> plus as none of the recorders I have will do that.
>>> The sound from the supplied microphone capsules has to be heard to 
>>> be believed as it sounds so much better than most other supplied 
>>> microphones for field recorders you’re likely to hear.
>>> All of the functions I use are accessible without the help of the 
>>> menu system though I do plan to write a menu shortcuts document for 
>>> the recorder though its the usual thing of finding time.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
> 
> 
 

Re: [all-audio] Zoom H6 thanks for the recommendation

[Hamit Campos]

Ah I can hear up to 18 K. But I wana see how much difference I can 
really hear. Thing is I've done it with an LS-14 but of course this 
isn't as pro as the H6 is. Maybe an LS-100 would be but saddly couldn't 
get that.



On 4/1/2018 2:08 PM, tim cumings wrote:
Inmy jhumble opinion, recording at 96 khz 24 kbps is really a waste of 
time. Even with perfect hearing most people can't hear above 22 khz 
anyway.




On 3/31/2018 11:07 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote:
Unfortunately the chap who has been employed to do it didn’t turn up 
and I was annoyed about it to say the least so I’ll be following that 
one up after the Easter holiday break ends, Happy Easter and Happy 
listening/recording to you all by the way .




On 1 Apr 2018, at 12:55 pm, Hamit Campos  wrote:

Were you able to record the tree chopping?


On 3/31/2018 10:18 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote:

Hmm.. I'm not sure where you got that info from?

Unless I'm totally wrong I understand that whatever the sampling 
rate is set to then that goes so if you're set to 96K 24-bit then 
go for your life with the whole 6 tracks.


There are two things you have to be aware of and the first is SD 
card size as you'd need something large to do 6 tracks at 96K 24-bit.


Second is that once the sample rate is chosen then that's all you 
can down mix to so in other words if you're performing a down mix 
on the H6 then everything you choose in your project has to be of 
the same sampling rate.




On 27/03/2018 10:25 AM, Hamit Campos wrote:
Ah that's fine. it won't let you go all the way to 96 KHz 24 bits 
if you go beyond stereo anyways. So Stereo is fine. I just wana 
hear the recorder's capabilities at full glorious HD.



On 3/26/2018 7:02 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote:
Unfortunately I'll only be using 2 channels to make a stereo 
recording, I only have so many microphones you know .




On 27/03/2018 9:48 AM, Hamit Campos wrote:
Ah sure that will be interesting. I'd love to hear this thing 
fully unleashed.



On 3/26/2018 6:07 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote:
I’m recoding a tree bing felled today so I’ll put that up later 
if this would help.



On 27 Mar 2018, at 8:21 am, Hamit Campos 
 wrote:


Dain, I've heard the mikes on Neal's podcast. But can you send 
me some stuff in full glorious 96 KHz 24 bits HD? After all 
neal's podcast is just an MP3. My email if you wana send it to 
me dirrectly is hamitcam...@gmail.com. I'd say just some out 
doors stuff but don't know how it's there in your part of 
Australia. Don't want ya to freese or something. lol



On 3/26/2018 11:09 AM, Dane Trethowan wrote:

Hi!
Thanks to the list member who recommended the Zoom H6 
recorder, I’ve had mine for a month and to say I’m pleased 
with this recorder is indeed an understatement.
The Zoom H6 is the best field recorder I’ve ever owned for so 
many reasons which include usability.
The ability to record 6 tracks at once right out of the box 
is a plus as none of the recorders I have will do that.
The sound from the supplied microphone capsules has to be 
heard to be believed as it sounds so much better than most 
other supplied microphones for field recorders you’re likely 
to hear.
All of the functions I use are accessible without the help of 
the menu system though I do plan to write a menu shortcuts 
document for the recorder though its the usual thing of 
finding time.








































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Re: [all-audio] Zoom H6 thanks for the recommendation

[tim cumings]

Inmy jhumble opinion, recording at 96 khz 24 kbps is really a waste of 
time. Even with perfect hearing most people can't hear above 22 khz anyway.




On 3/31/2018 11:07 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote:

Unfortunately the chap who has been employed to do it didn’t turn up and I was 
annoyed about it to say the least so I’ll be following that one up after the Easter 
holiday break ends, Happy Easter and Happy listening/recording to you all by the way 
.



On 1 Apr 2018, at 12:55 pm, Hamit Campos  wrote:

Were you able to record the tree chopping?


On 3/31/2018 10:18 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote:

Hmm.. I'm not sure where you got that info from?

Unless I'm totally wrong I understand that whatever the sampling rate is set to 
then that goes so if you're set to 96K 24-bit then go for your life with the 
whole 6 tracks.

There are two things you have to be aware of and the first is SD card size as 
you'd need something large to do 6 tracks at 96K 24-bit.

Second is that once the sample rate is chosen then that's all you can down mix 
to so in other words if you're performing a down mix on the H6 then everything 
you choose in your project has to be of the same sampling rate.



On 27/03/2018 10:25 AM, Hamit Campos wrote:

Ah that's fine. it won't let you go all the way to 96 KHz 24 bits if you go 
beyond stereo anyways. So Stereo is fine. I just wana hear the recorder's 
capabilities at full glorious HD.


On 3/26/2018 7:02 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote:

Unfortunately I'll only be using 2 channels to make a stereo recording, I only have 
so many microphones you know .



On 27/03/2018 9:48 AM, Hamit Campos wrote:

Ah sure that will be interesting. I'd love to hear this thing fully unleashed.


On 3/26/2018 6:07 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote:

I’m recoding a tree bing felled today so I’ll put that up later if this would 
help.



On 27 Mar 2018, at 8:21 am, Hamit Campos  wrote:

Dain, I've heard the mikes on Neal's podcast. But can you send me some stuff in 
full glorious 96 KHz 24 bits HD? After all neal's podcast is just an MP3. My 
email if you wana send it to me dirrectly is hamitcam...@gmail.com. I'd say 
just some out doors stuff but don't know how it's there in your part of 
Australia. Don't want ya to freese or something. lol


On 3/26/2018 11:09 AM, Dane Trethowan wrote:

Hi!
Thanks to the list member who recommended the Zoom H6 recorder, I’ve had mine 
for a month and to say I’m pleased with this recorder is indeed an 
understatement.
The Zoom H6 is the best field recorder I’ve ever owned for so many reasons 
which include usability.
The ability to record 6 tracks at once right out of the box is a plus as none 
of the recorders I have will do that.
The sound from the supplied microphone capsules has to be heard to be believed 
as it sounds so much better than most other supplied microphones for field 
recorders you’re likely to hear.
All of the functions I use are accessible without the help of the menu system 
though I do plan to write a menu shortcuts document for the recorder though its 
the usual thing of finding time.

































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Re: [all-audio] Zoom H6 thanks for the recommendation

[Hamit Campos]

Hell to the yeah. I mean I've heard a car recorded with the F4 the F8's 
little brother, but that was way too epic! So the F8 is obviously epic.



On 3/31/2018 11:06 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote:

I’ve had no reason to perform a full multi track recording as yet so I’m only 
going on what I read in the manual.
I can’t speak for the other recorders you mentioned though I will be reading 
the manual for the F8 in the coming days as that recorder looks like a true Pro 
beast.



On 1 Apr 2018, at 12:55 pm, Hamit Campos  wrote:

Ah then maybe they for what ever silly reason applyed that limit I heard on the 
F recorders. Ya know the new big pro ones. Well newer then the H6 anyways. But 
now I think about it it was on a vid for either the F4 which is just a biger H6 
that can record to 2 SD cards or the f8 which can take 8 mikes. I forget which. 
I guess the only way to find out is to try. If you could get all 6 channals in 
96 KHZ 24 bits than that's epic. That would be way too epic.


On 3/31/2018 10:18 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote:

Hmm.. I'm not sure where you got that info from?

Unless I'm totally wrong I understand that whatever the sampling rate is set to 
then that goes so if you're set to 96K 24-bit then go for your life with the 
whole 6 tracks.

There are two things you have to be aware of and the first is SD card size as 
you'd need something large to do 6 tracks at 96K 24-bit.

Second is that once the sample rate is chosen then that's all you can down mix 
to so in other words if you're performing a down mix on the H6 then everything 
you choose in your project has to be of the same sampling rate.



On 27/03/2018 10:25 AM, Hamit Campos wrote:

Ah that's fine. it won't let you go all the way to 96 KHz 24 bits if you go 
beyond stereo anyways. So Stereo is fine. I just wana hear the recorder's 
capabilities at full glorious HD.


On 3/26/2018 7:02 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote:

Unfortunately I'll only be using 2 channels to make a stereo recording, I only have 
so many microphones you know .



On 27/03/2018 9:48 AM, Hamit Campos wrote:

Ah sure that will be interesting. I'd love to hear this thing fully unleashed.


On 3/26/2018 6:07 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote:

I’m recoding a tree bing felled today so I’ll put that up later if this would 
help.



On 27 Mar 2018, at 8:21 am, Hamit Campos  wrote:

Dain, I've heard the mikes on Neal's podcast. But can you send me some stuff in 
full glorious 96 KHz 24 bits HD? After all neal's podcast is just an MP3. My 
email if you wana send it to me dirrectly is hamitcam...@gmail.com. I'd say 
just some out doors stuff but don't know how it's there in your part of 
Australia. Don't want ya to freese or something. lol


On 3/26/2018 11:09 AM, Dane Trethowan wrote:

Hi!
Thanks to the list member who recommended the Zoom H6 recorder, I’ve had mine 
for a month and to say I’m pleased with this recorder is indeed an 
understatement.
The Zoom H6 is the best field recorder I’ve ever owned for so many reasons 
which include usability.
The ability to record 6 tracks at once right out of the box is a plus as none 
of the recorders I have will do that.
The sound from the supplied microphone capsules has to be heard to be believed 
as it sounds so much better than most other supplied microphones for field 
recorders you’re likely to hear.
All of the functions I use are accessible without the help of the menu system 
though I do plan to write a menu shortcuts document for the recorder though its 
the usual thing of finding time.

































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