[all-audio] Sound Forge 12 audio selection problem solved, but ...

2019-08-16 Thread Steve Matzura
If I execute the arm and record functions manually through the Transport 
menu, everthing works like it should. I made the invalid assumption that 
Control plus Shift plus A arms the recording, and Control plus Shift 
plus R starts it. Seems I was half right. Control plus Shift plus A no 
longer performs that function; now, it enables all channels, and there 
appears to be no way of disabling them and recording with only two. So, 
is the arm function really necessary? And I see that Control plus R is 
not listed in the help window for "Start recording". And I would swear 
that I use this keystroke on my primary SF12 system.



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[all-audio] Microphone Test

2019-08-16 Thread Dane Trethowan
Hi,
The following test comes curtesy of my friend Tom.
Tom has 3 pairs of Bluetooth headphones each with a microphone as he explains 
in this Demo, a pair from B, a pair from B and a pair from Bose.
The B and Bose pairs have noise cancelling where you hear the difference in 
how the microphone sounds due to processing.
The B P5 pair has no noise cancelling and - in my opinion - sounds more 
natural.
Having said that however the B and Bose pairs are not uncomfortable to listen 
to.
Anyway judge for yourself.
I forward this on as I’m sure there are a lot of list members out there 
wondering just how the microphones sound on headsets these days.
Surprisingly - although the Sony is rated as the best noise cancelling headsets 
available - the microphones of these headsets sound absolutely dreadful when it 
comes to making phone calls.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/4gnvnvryvy5zpcr/Microphone%20Test.m4a?dl=0


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Re: [all-audio] Great sounds of AM Stereo

2019-08-16 Thread Dane Trethowan
I did that myself before I had a dedicated stereo AM receiver and the effect 
was certainly there.


> On 17 Aug 2019, at 7:00 am, Evan Reese  wrote:
> 
> I remember playing around with two radios to get AM stereo in the 1980s here 
> in the U.S. If I tuned each of them just right, I could get pretty decent 
> stereo between them.
> 
> Evan
> 
> -Original Message- From: Dane Trethowan
> Sent: Friday, August 16, 2019 2:11 PM
> To: all-audio@groups.io
> Subject: Re: [all-audio] Great sounds of AM Stereo
> 
> Some of your AM stations are now broadcasting using HD.
> I know someone who has a Sangean HDR16 HD radio and he has forwarded me 
> recordings of HD sound from AM which doesn't sound too bad.
> It sounds as though Am Stereo tuners were as different as standard tuners 
> were.
> I had one which I built from a kit which was extremely sensitive whilst my 
> Sony tuner was as deaf as a doorpost.
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: all-audio@groups.io  On Behalf Of Steve Jacobson
> Sent: Saturday, 17 August 2019 3:47 AM
> To: all-audio@groups.io
> Subject: Re: [all-audio] Great sounds of AM Stereo
> 
> Dane,
> 
> My old Carver TX 11A or 11B or whatever it was could receive Stereo AM of 
> this quality.  They even had a 10KHZ notch filter to avoid hearing that tone 
> if it was generated by an adjacent station in the United States.  I suspect 
> they had models to filter out the 9 KHZ tone in much of the rest of the 
> world.  The biggest gripe I had with my Carver tuner was that it was not very 
> sensitive on AM.  It also had a very nice FM section in it as well with some 
> interesting noise cancelling options.
> 
> While we don't have stereo AM in the United States any longer, there are 
> still AM stations with very nice audio that use a fairly wide bandwidth. 
> However, the audio on AM now is very much limited by the bandwidth used by 
> most radios of today, and I understand that the need isn't as strong as it 
> once was with streaming and other options.
> 
> Best regards,
> 
> Steve Jacobson
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: all-audio@groups.io  On Behalf Of Dane Trethowan
> Sent: Thursday, August 15, 2019 7:23 PM
> To: all-audio@groups.io
> Subject: [all-audio] Great sounds of AM Stereo
> 
> For those who have never heard the sound of Stereo AM before? Enjoy.
> For those who lived through the period of Stereo AM and who owned a Stereo AM 
> tuner or radio? Sit back and remember.
> I found this sample of Stereo AM - from radio station 3MP in Melbourne - on 
> Youtube.
> I’d love to know what type of tuner this recording was made from as the band 
> width is quite wide.
> My Sony tuner was capable of this but only after it had been adjusted.
> Anyway hear for yourself.
> https://nam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DIPPOEIfU0bo%26t%3D3573sdata=02%7C01%7C%7C2676da24eea64cf7c52008d721dff5d0%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637015118088352475sdata=T9W7QtOsV3qA0ghtdkOpTgnZzEh1LcH4BKy3OONSAGI%3Dreserved=0
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Re: [all-audio] Great sounds of AM Stereo

2019-08-16 Thread Evan Reese
I remember playing around with two radios to get AM stereo in the 1980s here 
in the U.S. If I tuned each of them just right, I could get pretty decent 
stereo between them.


Evan

-Original Message- 
From: Dane Trethowan

Sent: Friday, August 16, 2019 2:11 PM
To: all-audio@groups.io
Subject: Re: [all-audio] Great sounds of AM Stereo

Some of your AM stations are now broadcasting using HD.
I know someone who has a Sangean HDR16 HD radio and he has forwarded me 
recordings of HD sound from AM which doesn't sound too bad.
It sounds as though Am Stereo tuners were as different as standard tuners 
were.
I had one which I built from a kit which was extremely sensitive whilst my 
Sony tuner was as deaf as a doorpost.



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From: all-audio@groups.io  On Behalf Of Steve Jacobson
Sent: Saturday, 17 August 2019 3:47 AM
To: all-audio@groups.io
Subject: Re: [all-audio] Great sounds of AM Stereo

Dane,

My old Carver TX 11A or 11B or whatever it was could receive Stereo AM of 
this quality.  They even had a 10KHZ notch filter to avoid hearing that tone 
if it was generated by an adjacent station in the United States.  I suspect 
they had models to filter out the 9 KHZ tone in much of the rest of the 
world.  The biggest gripe I had with my Carver tuner was that it was not 
very sensitive on AM.  It also had a very nice FM section in it as well with 
some interesting noise cancelling options.


While we don't have stereo AM in the United States any longer, there are 
still AM stations with very nice audio that use a fairly wide bandwidth. 
However, the audio on AM now is very much limited by the bandwidth used by 
most radios of today, and I understand that the need isn't as strong as it 
once was with streaming and other options.


Best regards,

Steve Jacobson

-Original Message-
From: all-audio@groups.io  On Behalf Of Dane Trethowan
Sent: Thursday, August 15, 2019 7:23 PM
To: all-audio@groups.io
Subject: [all-audio] Great sounds of AM Stereo

For those who have never heard the sound of Stereo AM before? Enjoy.
For those who lived through the period of Stereo AM and who owned a Stereo 
AM tuner or radio? Sit back and remember.
I found this sample of Stereo AM - from radio station 3MP in Melbourne - on 
Youtube.
I’d love to know what type of tuner this recording was made from as the band 
width is quite wide.

My Sony tuner was capable of this but only after it had been adjusted.
Anyway hear for yourself.
https://nam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DIPPOEIfU0bo%26t%3D3573sdata=02%7C01%7C%7C2676da24eea64cf7c52008d721dff5d0%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637015118088352475sdata=T9W7QtOsV3qA0ghtdkOpTgnZzEh1LcH4BKy3OONSAGI%3Dreserved=0













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Re: [all-audio] Microphone Tst

2019-08-16 Thread Brian Olesen
Hi,
For what it's worth the Bose QC35 Microphones sounds the best.
Yes the B sounds good, but there is way too much digital distortion going on.

Brian

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Sendt: 16. august 2019 21:10
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Hi,
The following test comes curtesy of my friend Tom.
Tom has 3 pairs of Bluetooth headphones each with a microphone as he explains 
in this Demo, a pair from B, a pair from B and a pair from Bose.
The B and Bose pairs have noise cancelling where you hear the difference in 
how the microphone sounds due to processing.
The B P5 pair has no noise cancelling and - in my opinion - sounds more 
natural.
Having said that however the B and Bose pairs are not uncomfortable to listen 
to.
Anyway judge for yourself.
I forward this on as I’m sure there are a lot of list members out there 
wondering just how the microphones sound on headsets these days.
Surprisingly - although the Sony is rated as the best noise cancelling headsets 
available - the microphones of these headsets sound absolutely dreadful when it 
comes to making phone calls.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/4gnvnvryvy5zpcr/Microphone%20Test.m4a?dl=0






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[all-audio] Microphone Tst

2019-08-16 Thread Dane Trethowan
Hi,
The following test comes curtesy of my friend Tom.
Tom has 3 pairs of Bluetooth headphones each with a microphone as he explains 
in this Demo, a pair from B, a pair from B and a pair from Bose.
The B and Bose pairs have noise cancelling where you hear the difference in 
how the microphone sounds due to processing.
The B P5 pair has no noise cancelling and - in my opinion - sounds more 
natural.
Having said that however the B and Bose pairs are not uncomfortable to listen 
to.
Anyway judge for yourself.
I forward this on as I’m sure there are a lot of list members out there 
wondering just how the microphones sound on headsets these days.
Surprisingly - although the Sony is rated as the best noise cancelling headsets 
available - the microphones of these headsets sound absolutely dreadful when it 
comes to making phone calls.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/4gnvnvryvy5zpcr/Microphone%20Test.m4a?dl=0


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Re: [all-audio] Great sounds of AM Stereo

2019-08-16 Thread Dane Trethowan
Always interesting to hear from you on this topic.
My friend with the HDR16 says that the radio is incredibly tolerant of 
interference and stays stubbornly locked to the HD signal though in the reverse 
you can't switch off HD and just stay on analogue without tuning off the 
station slightly, an oversight I think on Sangean's part.


-Original Message-
From: all-audio@groups.io  On Behalf Of Steve Jacobson
Sent: Saturday, 17 August 2019 4:54 AM
To: all-audio@groups.io
Subject: Re: [all-audio] Great sounds of AM Stereo

Dane,

Yes, I am aware of AM HD here, of course, and I do own a Sangean AM/FM HD 
Tuner.  However, it feels as though AM HD is gradually failing, although it is 
hard to know what will happen.  The sound is very good, but it takes very 
little static to cause the HD signal to not be useable and one is switched back 
to analog.  In addition, the HD signal requires a significant limitation to the 
analog bandwidth so AM HD stations tend to have analog sound that is not as 
wide in bandwidth as other AM stations that do not have an HD signal.  I live 
in the Metropolitan Minneapolis-St. Paul area of Minnesota, and at one point we 
had three AM HD stations, however we now have none at all.  AM HD seems to have 
taken a better hold in some other large cities, though.  It is fun, on 
occasion, to listen to HD signals from Chicago during the evening, some 400 
miles, 670 kilometers, away.  Those are very strong AM signals, though.

Best regards,

Steve Jacobson

-Original Message-
From: all-audio@groups.io  On Behalf Of Dane Trethowan
Sent: Friday, August 16, 2019 1:11 PM
To: all-audio@groups.io
Subject: Re: [all-audio] Great sounds of AM Stereo

Some of your AM stations are now broadcasting using HD.
I know someone who has a Sangean HDR16 HD radio and he has forwarded me 
recordings of HD sound from AM which doesn't sound too bad.
It sounds as though Am Stereo tuners were as different as standard tuners were.
I had one which I built from a kit which was extremely sensitive whilst my Sony 
tuner was as deaf as a doorpost.


-Original Message-
From: all-audio@groups.io  On Behalf Of Steve Jacobson
Sent: Saturday, 17 August 2019 3:47 AM
To: all-audio@groups.io
Subject: Re: [all-audio] Great sounds of AM Stereo

Dane,

My old Carver TX 11A or 11B or whatever it was could receive Stereo AM of this 
quality.  They even had a 10KHZ notch filter to avoid hearing that tone if it 
was generated by an adjacent station in the United States.  I suspect they had 
models to filter out the 9 KHZ tone in much of the rest of the world.  The 
biggest gripe I had with my Carver tuner was that it was not very sensitive on 
AM.  It also had a very nice FM section in it as well with some interesting 
noise cancelling options.

While we don't have stereo AM in the United States any longer, there are still 
AM stations with very nice audio that use a fairly wide bandwidth.  However, 
the audio on AM now is very much limited by the bandwidth used by most radios 
of today, and I understand that the need isn't as strong as it once was with 
streaming and other options.

Best regards,

Steve Jacobson

-Original Message-
From: all-audio@groups.io  On Behalf Of Dane Trethowan
Sent: Thursday, August 15, 2019 7:23 PM
To: all-audio@groups.io
Subject: [all-audio] Great sounds of AM Stereo

For those who have never heard the sound of Stereo AM before? Enjoy.
For those who lived through the period of Stereo AM and who owned a Stereo AM 
tuner or radio? Sit back and remember.
I found this sample of Stereo AM - from radio station 3MP in Melbourne - on 
Youtube.
I’d love to know what type of tuner this recording was made from as the band 
width is quite wide.
My Sony tuner was capable of this but only after it had been adjusted.
Anyway hear for yourself.
https://eur03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DIPPOEIfU0bo%26t%3D3573sdata=02%7C01%7C%7Cf7da9f522f084d09c0a408d722751b21%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637015758670462283sdata=nnMLBfAZL89pwR2dM0jRxSLqNcprB2ZLRXxfYhNhDRo%3Dreserved=0
















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Re: [all-audio] Great sounds of AM Stereo

2019-08-16 Thread Steve Jacobson
Dane,

Yes, I am aware of AM HD here, of course, and I do own a Sangean AM/FM HD 
Tuner.  However, it feels as though AM HD is gradually failing, although it is 
hard to know what will happen.  The sound is very good, but it takes very 
little static to cause the HD signal to not be useable and one is switched back 
to analog.  In addition, the HD signal requires a significant limitation to the 
analog bandwidth so AM HD stations tend to have analog sound that is not as 
wide in bandwidth as other AM stations that do not have an HD signal.  I live 
in the Metropolitan Minneapolis-St. Paul area of Minnesota, and at one point we 
had three AM HD stations, however we now have none at all.  AM HD seems to have 
taken a better hold in some other large cities, though.  It is fun, on 
occasion, to listen to HD signals from Chicago during the evening, some 400 
miles, 670 kilometers, away.  Those are very strong AM signals, though.

Best regards,

Steve Jacobson

-Original Message-
From: all-audio@groups.io  On Behalf Of Dane Trethowan
Sent: Friday, August 16, 2019 1:11 PM
To: all-audio@groups.io
Subject: Re: [all-audio] Great sounds of AM Stereo

Some of your AM stations are now broadcasting using HD.
I know someone who has a Sangean HDR16 HD radio and he has forwarded me 
recordings of HD sound from AM which doesn't sound too bad.
It sounds as though Am Stereo tuners were as different as standard tuners were.
I had one which I built from a kit which was extremely sensitive whilst my Sony 
tuner was as deaf as a doorpost.


-Original Message-
From: all-audio@groups.io  On Behalf Of Steve Jacobson
Sent: Saturday, 17 August 2019 3:47 AM
To: all-audio@groups.io
Subject: Re: [all-audio] Great sounds of AM Stereo

Dane,

My old Carver TX 11A or 11B or whatever it was could receive Stereo AM of this 
quality.  They even had a 10KHZ notch filter to avoid hearing that tone if it 
was generated by an adjacent station in the United States.  I suspect they had 
models to filter out the 9 KHZ tone in much of the rest of the world.  The 
biggest gripe I had with my Carver tuner was that it was not very sensitive on 
AM.  It also had a very nice FM section in it as well with some interesting 
noise cancelling options.

While we don't have stereo AM in the United States any longer, there are still 
AM stations with very nice audio that use a fairly wide bandwidth.  However, 
the audio on AM now is very much limited by the bandwidth used by most radios 
of today, and I understand that the need isn't as strong as it once was with 
streaming and other options.

Best regards,

Steve Jacobson

-Original Message-
From: all-audio@groups.io  On Behalf Of Dane Trethowan
Sent: Thursday, August 15, 2019 7:23 PM
To: all-audio@groups.io
Subject: [all-audio] Great sounds of AM Stereo

For those who have never heard the sound of Stereo AM before? Enjoy.
For those who lived through the period of Stereo AM and who owned a Stereo AM 
tuner or radio? Sit back and remember.
I found this sample of Stereo AM - from radio station 3MP in Melbourne - on 
Youtube.
I’d love to know what type of tuner this recording was made from as the band 
width is quite wide.
My Sony tuner was capable of this but only after it had been adjusted.
Anyway hear for yourself.
https://eur03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DIPPOEIfU0bo%26t%3D3573sdata=02%7C01%7C%7Cf7da9f522f084d09c0a408d722751b21%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637015758670462283sdata=nnMLBfAZL89pwR2dM0jRxSLqNcprB2ZLRXxfYhNhDRo%3Dreserved=0












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Re: [all-audio] Great sounds of AM Stereo

2019-08-16 Thread Dane Trethowan
Some of your AM stations are now broadcasting using HD.
I know someone who has a Sangean HDR16 HD radio and he has forwarded me 
recordings of HD sound from AM which doesn't sound too bad.
It sounds as though Am Stereo tuners were as different as standard tuners were.
I had one which I built from a kit which was extremely sensitive whilst my Sony 
tuner was as deaf as a doorpost.


-Original Message-
From: all-audio@groups.io  On Behalf Of Steve Jacobson
Sent: Saturday, 17 August 2019 3:47 AM
To: all-audio@groups.io
Subject: Re: [all-audio] Great sounds of AM Stereo

Dane,

My old Carver TX 11A or 11B or whatever it was could receive Stereo AM of this 
quality.  They even had a 10KHZ notch filter to avoid hearing that tone if it 
was generated by an adjacent station in the United States.  I suspect they had 
models to filter out the 9 KHZ tone in much of the rest of the world.  The 
biggest gripe I had with my Carver tuner was that it was not very sensitive on 
AM.  It also had a very nice FM section in it as well with some interesting 
noise cancelling options.

While we don't have stereo AM in the United States any longer, there are still 
AM stations with very nice audio that use a fairly wide bandwidth.  However, 
the audio on AM now is very much limited by the bandwidth used by most radios 
of today, and I understand that the need isn't as strong as it once was with 
streaming and other options.

Best regards,

Steve Jacobson

-Original Message-
From: all-audio@groups.io  On Behalf Of Dane Trethowan
Sent: Thursday, August 15, 2019 7:23 PM
To: all-audio@groups.io
Subject: [all-audio] Great sounds of AM Stereo

For those who have never heard the sound of Stereo AM before? Enjoy.
For those who lived through the period of Stereo AM and who owned a Stereo AM 
tuner or radio? Sit back and remember.
I found this sample of Stereo AM - from radio station 3MP in Melbourne - on 
Youtube.
I’d love to know what type of tuner this recording was made from as the band 
width is quite wide.
My Sony tuner was capable of this but only after it had been adjusted.
Anyway hear for yourself.
https://nam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DIPPOEIfU0bo%26t%3D3573sdata=02%7C01%7C%7C2676da24eea64cf7c52008d721dff5d0%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637015118088352475sdata=T9W7QtOsV3qA0ghtdkOpTgnZzEh1LcH4BKy3OONSAGI%3Dreserved=0









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Re: [all-audio] Sangean PR-D17 AM/FM Radio for the Visually Impaired

2019-08-16 Thread Dane Trethowan
That's the theory about Smart Speakers yes however they don't always do what
you tell them to do.


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Sent: Friday, 16 August 2019 11:07 PM
To: all-audio@groups.io
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Impaired


Even internet radios have been passed by.  Smart speakers will stream all
internet radio sources, including those worldwide, all by voice command.

And they have many other sources of audio info including thousands of
podcasts and the cable and other news sources.

On Thu, 15 Aug 2019, Gary Schindler wrote:

> That is why Sangean should concentrate on designing an internet radio with
talking menus.
>
>
> Once you have used a Sangean radio you get familiar with the 
> nomenclature and how to operate them and to me there isn't much advantage
to having one of these!
>
>
> It is commendable that Sangean does for now build something with
accessibility in mind.
>
>
> On 8/15/2019 2:46 PM, Anders Holmberg wrote:
> > Hi! Actually not want to disrespect people here but i don???t get 
> > the Am/fm radio thing anymore. I have a harman/kardon receiver here 
> > but i very very seldom use the radio in that receiver. Maybe i am 
> > boring or stupid or something but why not just listen via internet. 
> > /A
> >
> >> 13 aug. 2019 kl. 22:54 skrev Dane Trethowan :
> >>
> >> Now this radio may be well worthwhile grabbing.
> >>
> >> https://radiojayallen.com/sangean-pr-d7-am-fm-radio-for-the-visuall
> >> y-impaire d/
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> >
>

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Re: [all-audio] Great sounds of AM Stereo

2019-08-16 Thread Steve Jacobson
Dane,

My old Carver TX 11A or 11B or whatever it was could receive Stereo AM of this 
quality.  They even had a 10KHZ notch filter to avoid hearing that tone if it 
was generated by an adjacent station in the United States.  I suspect they had 
models to filter out the 9 KHZ tone in much of the rest of the world.  The 
biggest gripe I had with my Carver tuner was that it was not very sensitive on 
AM.  It also had a very nice FM section in it as well with some interesting 
noise cancelling options.  

While we don't have stereo AM in the United States any longer, there are still 
AM stations with very nice audio that use a fairly wide bandwidth.  However, 
the audio on AM now is very much limited by the bandwidth used by most radios 
of today, and I understand that the need isn't as strong as it once was with 
streaming and other options.

Best regards,

Steve Jacobson

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From: all-audio@groups.io  On Behalf Of Dane Trethowan
Sent: Thursday, August 15, 2019 7:23 PM
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Subject: [all-audio] Great sounds of AM Stereo

For those who have never heard the sound of Stereo AM before? Enjoy.
For those who lived through the period of Stereo AM and who owned a Stereo AM 
tuner or radio? Sit back and remember.
I found this sample of Stereo AM - from radio station 3MP in Melbourne - on 
Youtube.
I’d love to know what type of tuner this recording was made from as the band 
width is quite wide.
My Sony tuner was capable of this but only after it had been adjusted.
Anyway hear for yourself.
https://nam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DIPPOEIfU0bo%26t%3D3573sdata=02%7C01%7C%7C2676da24eea64cf7c52008d721dff5d0%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637015118088352475sdata=T9W7QtOsV3qA0ghtdkOpTgnZzEh1LcH4BKy3OONSAGI%3Dreserved=0





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Re: [all-audio] Sangean PR-D17 AM/FM Radio for the Visually Impaired

2019-08-16 Thread Anders Holmberg
Hi!
Yes i totally agree.
Sadly.
/A

> 15 aug. 2019 kl. 21:54 skrev Dane Trethowan :
> 
> You can still get around it I’ve discovered but to be honest the BBC - in my 
> opinion - just ain’t want it used to be and I’m very disappointed that UK 
> residents are forced to pay a license fee for such crap.
> 
> 
>> On 16 Aug 2019, at 5:18 am, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi!
>> I maybe could listen to BBC 5 live that way instead?
>> Since they seem to block VPN listenings these days.
>> /A
>> 
>>> 15 aug. 2019 kl. 20:59 skrev Dane Trethowan :
>>> 
>>> How you entertain yourself is entirely your thing and I appreciate your 
>>> points.
>>> I hardly listen to local radio myself anymore given that I have better and 
>>> higher quality listening options from services such as Tidal etc.
>>> Having said all that however I do appreciate just how useful the Sangean 
>>> Pr-d17 may be to someone who has a bit of trouble using a radio given the 
>>> unit has voice prompts.
>>> I plan to buy one myself to add to the collection and I’m sure I’ll get a 
>>> good deal of use out of the unit.
>>> Firstly the radio rates highly with regards to sensitivity on AM and FM and 
>>> that suits me given I like to listen to long distance radio.
>>> This feature alone marks a great change for a device with voice prompts, it 
>>> has been the case that when when such a product has arrived on the market 
>>> the product under performs its competition.
>>> The second good reason to purchase this radio is that the radio is a full 
>>> stereo set meaning you can take full advantage of FM radio - not that any 
>>> of our FM stations give you much in the way of audio fidelity these days of 
>>> course -.
>>> The PR-D17 has RDS functions which display the name of the song playing, 
>>> artist, station name etc.
>>> The voicing system doesn’t speak this information and that’s understandable 
>>> as you would need a full TTS platform in the radio itself to allow that 
>>> kind of functionality so I suspect Sangean are using Static Speech.
>>> 
>>> 
 On 16 Aug 2019, at 4:46 am, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
 
 Hi!
 Actually not want to disrespect people here but i don’t get the Am/fm 
 radio thing anymore.
 I have a harman/kardon receiver here but i very very seldom use the radio 
 in that receiver.
 Maybe i am boring or stupid or something but why not just listen via 
 internet.
 /A
 
> 13 aug. 2019 kl. 22:54 skrev Dane Trethowan :
> 
> Now this radio may be well worthwhile grabbing.
> 
> https://radiojayallen.com/sangean-pr-d7-am-fm-radio-for-the-visually-impaire
> d/
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
 
 
 
 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
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[all-audio] Sound Forge 12 Question About Choosing Recording Inputs

2019-08-16 Thread Steve Matzura
I have Sound Forge 12 installed on two computers. ON the first one, 
everything works as it should. I have the Realtek line-in jack selected 
as primary input, and whatever I plug in there, Sound Forge dutifully 
records it.



Not so on the second machine. The setup is just the same, but Sound 
Forge just doesn't record anything when I arm the window and start 
recording. I don't know whether this is because my inputs aren't 
properly selected, although the display appears exactly the same as it 
is on the first machine, or whether I'm not actually moving the 
transport as I think I am when I  press the Control plus Shift plus R 
keystroke.



And another oddity: I Have Jim Snowbarger's scripts for JAWS installed 
on both machines, and while Control plus Shift plus A and Control plus 
Shift plus R work on machine 1, they don't on machine 2, even though 
JAWS Key plus Q tells me the scripts are properly installed and running.



Any help greatly appreciated, with my thanks in advance.


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Re: [all-audio] Sangean PR-D17 AM/FM Radio for the Visually Impaired

2019-08-16 Thread -


Even internet radios have been passed by.  Smart speakers will stream all 
internet radio sources, including those worldwide, all by voice command.

And they have many other sources of audio info including thousands of podcasts 
and the cable and other news sources.

On Thu, 15 Aug 2019, Gary Schindler wrote:

> That is why Sangean should concentrate on designing an internet radio with 
> talking menus.
>
>
> Once you have used a Sangean radio you get familiar with the nomenclature and 
> how to operate them and to me there isn't much advantage to
> having one of these!
>
>
> It is commendable that Sangean does for now build something with 
> accessibility in mind.
>
>
> On 8/15/2019 2:46 PM, Anders Holmberg wrote:
> > Hi! Actually not want to disrespect people here but i don???t get the Am/fm 
> > radio thing anymore. I have a harman/kardon receiver here but
> > i very very seldom use the radio in that receiver. Maybe i am boring or 
> > stupid or something but why not just listen via internet. /A
> >
> >> 13 aug. 2019 kl. 22:54 skrev Dane Trethowan :
> >>
> >> Now this radio may be well worthwhile grabbing.
> >>
> >> https://radiojayallen.com/sangean-pr-d7-am-fm-radio-for-the-visually-impaire
> >>  d/
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> >
>

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Re: [all-audio] Great sounds of AM Stereo

2019-08-16 Thread Brian Olesen
Hi,
Wow!
What more can I say?
Brian

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Fra: all-audio@groups.io  På vegne af Dane Trethowan
Sendt: 16. august 2019 02:23
Til: all-audio@groups.io
Emne: [all-audio] Great sounds of AM Stereo

For those who have never heard the sound of Stereo AM before? Enjoy.
For those who lived through the period of Stereo AM and who owned a Stereo AM 
tuner or radio? Sit back and remember.
I found this sample of Stereo AM - from radio station 3MP in Melbourne - on 
Youtube.
I’d love to know what type of tuner this recording was made from as the band 
width is quite wide.
My Sony tuner was capable of this but only after it had been adjusted.
Anyway hear for yourself.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IPPOEIfU0bo=3573s






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