Re: [all-audio] Olympus LS-14 Recorder
Oh yeah agreed. I mean if that Holywood sound goes indy vid of the Zoom F4 the little sister of the F8 origenal is anything to go buy dam dude these things are pretty near dam Sound Devices quality sounding. Can't tell how close though as I've not heard an NT1-A on them. Speaking of Sound-Devices, they now have their Mix Pre recorders too. So yeah. Once I was reflecting on the fact that woe now for the price of the Plextalk PTR2 you can get something that yes doesn't talk like the PTR2 but it has 8 XLRs and 2 more with the Zoom EX H6 snap off peace. Wow dude for $900 you can record in 9.1 surround sound. Yeah the LS-100 was the same price of the H6. But again the H6 can give you up to 5.1 surround sound. Sure the 100 could multi track. But like you once said what's the point with only 2 XLRs? In my case it came down as I've said meh maybe 3 times before to accessibility or multi channal. So with the advent of Aira and Be My Eyes I chose multi channal 5.1 surround. Now I guess I just have to learn Reaper and see how you do 5.1 or 6 channal audio with it if it even does. On 2/20/2019 12:03 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote: Olympus are certainly known for their Dictation offerings and not their professional recording offerings and let's face it, the Olympus LS-100 - despite of its many shortcomings in my view - is aimed at the professional market. Whether Olympus can hold their own against the Zoom H6 for example in this market? It’s a tall order for Olympus given that the Zoom H6 - whilst capable of so much more - is at a similar price to the Olympus LS-100. Having said all that we have to acknowledge that it wasn't all that long ago when Zoom was a completely unheard of name in the world of professional audio recorders. Now Zoom have set a whole heap of benchmarks that the so-called professional brands such as Tascam and Roland can only dream of. If you listen to many of the reviews of the Zoom F8N for example you'll note how inthusiastic the reviewers are about the recorders and its not just the feature set they're raving about but the price of one of these recorders means that you don't have to robb a bank to purchase something that makes damn nice audio recordings and has the flexibility for all sorts of recording situations whether you be a film maker, recording your company meeting, recording Podcasts or just singing along to your Casio Piano and Yamaha Keyboard as I've done - the neighbours ran away when they heard it too -. Seriously though, I don't yet have a keyboard amp but its one of the items on my "To Purchase" list, at the moment I use headphones. -Original Message- From: all-audio@groups.io On Behalf Of Hamit Campos Sent: Thursday, 21 February 2019 3:32 AM To: all-audio@groups.io Subject: Re: [all-audio] Olympus LS-14 Recorder Yep that's right. Like Enya says at the end of Only Time. Who knows? Only Time. On 2/20/2019 11:28 AM, Dane Trethowan wrote: Only time will tell. On 21 Feb 2019, at 2:39 am, Hamit Campos wrote: Yeah I know right? It even had a DAISY player in it. Dude think of this. What a world if Olympus had continued the stuff in the DM-4 in the LS-100. Or in what ever new machine they do. Let's hope the LS-100 wasn't also an 1 off kinda thing too. On 2/20/2019 10:29 AM, Dane Trethowan wrote: As we’ve lamented previously its terribly sad that Olympus chose not to carry on with the development of the DM-4 as it included a whole heap of useful features that were never finished. On 21 Feb 2019, at 2:25 am, Hamit Campos wrote: That is 1 thing I did find interesting about the new DM-720 and the P4. I think they had the British lady say more stuff. Am I right? That's also why they don't and won't match the DM-4. The DM-4 had an actual TTS engine in it. On 2/20/2019 9:57 AM, Dane Trethowan wrote: Yes it is a shame about XLR connectivity however the unit is small so adding that functionality would have made the recorder that little bit larger. I can see a good reason as to why people would buy this recorder if it had XLR connectivity as it would be a very cheap and practical studio device even though the unit isn't a multi track recorder. As things stand I'm very pleased with the recorder the way it is and I'll probably end up using the recorder more often than I've done the LS-P4 though its early days yet and the P4 does have some advantages over the 14. As for the LS-100? Well it sits in the bottom draw. -Original Message- From: all-audio@groups.io On Behalf Of Hamit Campos Sent: Thursday, 21 February 2019 1:51 AM To: all-audio@groups.io Subject: Re: [all-audio] Olympus LS-14 Recorder Dain to erace everything after you've been playing stuff hit the function key all the way to the left. Then hit the erace key. Now if you remember how erace use to work on the older recorders were you had to conferm 2 times you'll be good. But before that you'll get a choice of erace 1 file or all or multible. Choose
Re: [all-audio] Olympus LS-14 Recorder
Olympus are certainly known for their Dictation offerings and not their professional recording offerings and let's face it, the Olympus LS-100 - despite of its many shortcomings in my view - is aimed at the professional market. Whether Olympus can hold their own against the Zoom H6 for example in this market? It’s a tall order for Olympus given that the Zoom H6 - whilst capable of so much more - is at a similar price to the Olympus LS-100. Having said all that we have to acknowledge that it wasn't all that long ago when Zoom was a completely unheard of name in the world of professional audio recorders. Now Zoom have set a whole heap of benchmarks that the so-called professional brands such as Tascam and Roland can only dream of. If you listen to many of the reviews of the Zoom F8N for example you'll note how inthusiastic the reviewers are about the recorders and its not just the feature set they're raving about but the price of one of these recorders means that you don't have to robb a bank to purchase something that makes damn nice audio recordings and has the flexibility for all sorts of recording situations whether you be a film maker, recording your company meeting, recording Podcasts or just singing along to your Casio Piano and Yamaha Keyboard as I've done - the neighbours ran away when they heard it too -. Seriously though, I don't yet have a keyboard amp but its one of the items on my "To Purchase" list, at the moment I use headphones. -Original Message- From: all-audio@groups.io On Behalf Of Hamit Campos Sent: Thursday, 21 February 2019 3:32 AM To: all-audio@groups.io Subject: Re: [all-audio] Olympus LS-14 Recorder Yep that's right. Like Enya says at the end of Only Time. Who knows? Only Time. On 2/20/2019 11:28 AM, Dane Trethowan wrote: > Only time will tell. > > >> On 21 Feb 2019, at 2:39 am, Hamit Campos wrote: >> >> Yeah I know right? It even had a DAISY player in it. Dude think of this. >> What a world if Olympus had continued the stuff in the DM-4 in the LS-100. >> Or in what ever new machine they do. Let's hope the LS-100 wasn't also an 1 >> off kinda thing too. >> >> On 2/20/2019 10:29 AM, Dane Trethowan wrote: >>> As we’ve lamented previously its terribly sad that Olympus chose not to >>> carry on with the development of the DM-4 as it included a whole heap of >>> useful features that were never finished. >>> >>> >>>> On 21 Feb 2019, at 2:25 am, Hamit Campos wrote: >>>> >>>> That is 1 thing I did find interesting about the new DM-720 and the P4. I >>>> think they had the British lady say more stuff. Am I right? That's also >>>> why they don't and won't match the DM-4. The DM-4 had an actual TTS engine >>>> in it. >>>> >>>> On 2/20/2019 9:57 AM, Dane Trethowan wrote: >>>>> Yes it is a shame about XLR connectivity however the unit is small so >>>>> adding that functionality would have made the recorder that little bit >>>>> larger. >>>>> I can see a good reason as to why people would buy this recorder if it >>>>> had XLR connectivity as it would be a very cheap and practical studio >>>>> device even though the unit isn't a multi track recorder. >>>>> As things stand I'm very pleased with the recorder the way it is and I'll >>>>> probably end up using the recorder more often than I've done the LS-P4 >>>>> though its early days yet and the P4 does have some advantages over the >>>>> 14. >>>>> As for the LS-100? Well it sits in the bottom draw. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -Original Message- >>>>> From: all-audio@groups.io On Behalf Of Hamit >>>>> Campos >>>>> Sent: Thursday, 21 February 2019 1:51 AM >>>>> To: all-audio@groups.io >>>>> Subject: Re: [all-audio] Olympus LS-14 Recorder >>>>> >>>>> Dain to erace everything after you've been playing stuff hit the function >>>>> key all the way to the left. Then hit the erace key. Now if you remember >>>>> how erace use to work on the older recorders were you had to conferm 2 >>>>> times you'll be good. But before that you'll get a choice of erace 1 file >>>>> or all or multible. Choose all. Yeah Smart Mode ain't perfect. But it can >>>>> be and has mostly been for me. Shame the LS-100 didn't have it and shame >>>>> the LS-14 don't have XLRs. Again things I thought after getting mine when >>>>> I got it. >>>>> >>>>> On 2/20/2019 5:04 AM, Dane Treth
Re: [all-audio] Olympus LS-14 Recorder
Yep that's right. Like Enya says at the end of Only Time. Who knows? Only Time. On 2/20/2019 11:28 AM, Dane Trethowan wrote: Only time will tell. On 21 Feb 2019, at 2:39 am, Hamit Campos wrote: Yeah I know right? It even had a DAISY player in it. Dude think of this. What a world if Olympus had continued the stuff in the DM-4 in the LS-100. Or in what ever new machine they do. Let's hope the LS-100 wasn't also an 1 off kinda thing too. On 2/20/2019 10:29 AM, Dane Trethowan wrote: As we’ve lamented previously its terribly sad that Olympus chose not to carry on with the development of the DM-4 as it included a whole heap of useful features that were never finished. On 21 Feb 2019, at 2:25 am, Hamit Campos wrote: That is 1 thing I did find interesting about the new DM-720 and the P4. I think they had the British lady say more stuff. Am I right? That's also why they don't and won't match the DM-4. The DM-4 had an actual TTS engine in it. On 2/20/2019 9:57 AM, Dane Trethowan wrote: Yes it is a shame about XLR connectivity however the unit is small so adding that functionality would have made the recorder that little bit larger. I can see a good reason as to why people would buy this recorder if it had XLR connectivity as it would be a very cheap and practical studio device even though the unit isn't a multi track recorder. As things stand I'm very pleased with the recorder the way it is and I'll probably end up using the recorder more often than I've done the LS-P4 though its early days yet and the P4 does have some advantages over the 14. As for the LS-100? Well it sits in the bottom draw. -Original Message- From: all-audio@groups.io On Behalf Of Hamit Campos Sent: Thursday, 21 February 2019 1:51 AM To: all-audio@groups.io Subject: Re: [all-audio] Olympus LS-14 Recorder Dain to erace everything after you've been playing stuff hit the function key all the way to the left. Then hit the erace key. Now if you remember how erace use to work on the older recorders were you had to conferm 2 times you'll be good. But before that you'll get a choice of erace 1 file or all or multible. Choose all. Yeah Smart Mode ain't perfect. But it can be and has mostly been for me. Shame the LS-100 didn't have it and shame the LS-14 don't have XLRs. Again things I thought after getting mine when I got it. On 2/20/2019 5:04 AM, Dane Trethowan wrote: I finally received my LS-14 recorder today so here are my impressions. I know the internal speaker of a recorder is terribly important to some people. For me an internal speaker doesn’t mean much and I suppose that’s probably because I’ve used so many professional recording solutions without speakers so I’m probably used to monitoring with headphones. I will say that the internal speaker of the LS-14 does grab the attention of the ears and has quite a pleasant sound to it. The LS-14 is bigger than I had expected but small enough for portable field use. If you want something smaller then go for the LS-P4 which has several advantages over the LS-14. The LS-P4 has a better voice guidance system though still no match for the DM4 in this area. I’ve played with the Smart Level -rehursal - mode of the LS-14 which is very nice however its not the final say when it comes to adjusting levels. In the end it comes down to your personal taste, do you want the smart level function of the LS-14 or perhaps you would prefer the “Look Ahead” buffer of the LS-P4. Whatever your preference both seem to work well. I have my LS-14 running from a USB Powerbank and I’m going to test to see just how much battery life I’ll et from the bank on the recorder in the next few days. I’m not at all concerned that the LS-14 cannot recharge batteries internally, the Zoom recorders don’t do this so again its something I’ve become accustomed to. The plastic build of the LS-14 is excellent and not the shoddy plastic build that was the Olympus DM-7. The Line-in socket is a welcome addition to a recorder of this size and I look forward to capturing audio from it. I hope an included line-in will mean a pretty much record and forget idea when capturing. As yet I’ve not set the Date and Time, voice Guidance doesn’t work with this setting it seems. The menu system takes a little getting used to but at least it can be navigated. I haven’t yet found a way to erase multiple files form memory, I can certainly erase 1 file at a time. I’m pleased to see the Olympus recorder supporting PCM Wave format all the way up to 96KHZ 24-bit so very good for those of us who want to record from turntables or want that extra excitement when capturing live music. Its a pity the LS-14 will not record FLAC and its quite possible that the processor in the LS-14 isn’t quite powerful enough to manage what the LS-P4 does in this regard. So that’s pretty much it as far as I’m concerned with the LS-14 which I’ve been exploring for the last 2 hours. I found Neal’s review very helpful
Re: [all-audio] Olympus LS-14 Recorder
Yeah I know right? It even had a DAISY player in it. Dude think of this. What a world if Olympus had continued the stuff in the DM-4 in the LS-100. Or in what ever new machine they do. Let's hope the LS-100 wasn't also an 1 off kinda thing too. On 2/20/2019 10:29 AM, Dane Trethowan wrote: As we’ve lamented previously its terribly sad that Olympus chose not to carry on with the development of the DM-4 as it included a whole heap of useful features that were never finished. On 21 Feb 2019, at 2:25 am, Hamit Campos wrote: That is 1 thing I did find interesting about the new DM-720 and the P4. I think they had the British lady say more stuff. Am I right? That's also why they don't and won't match the DM-4. The DM-4 had an actual TTS engine in it. On 2/20/2019 9:57 AM, Dane Trethowan wrote: Yes it is a shame about XLR connectivity however the unit is small so adding that functionality would have made the recorder that little bit larger. I can see a good reason as to why people would buy this recorder if it had XLR connectivity as it would be a very cheap and practical studio device even though the unit isn't a multi track recorder. As things stand I'm very pleased with the recorder the way it is and I'll probably end up using the recorder more often than I've done the LS-P4 though its early days yet and the P4 does have some advantages over the 14. As for the LS-100? Well it sits in the bottom draw. -Original Message- From: all-audio@groups.io On Behalf Of Hamit Campos Sent: Thursday, 21 February 2019 1:51 AM To: all-audio@groups.io Subject: Re: [all-audio] Olympus LS-14 Recorder Dain to erace everything after you've been playing stuff hit the function key all the way to the left. Then hit the erace key. Now if you remember how erace use to work on the older recorders were you had to conferm 2 times you'll be good. But before that you'll get a choice of erace 1 file or all or multible. Choose all. Yeah Smart Mode ain't perfect. But it can be and has mostly been for me. Shame the LS-100 didn't have it and shame the LS-14 don't have XLRs. Again things I thought after getting mine when I got it. On 2/20/2019 5:04 AM, Dane Trethowan wrote: I finally received my LS-14 recorder today so here are my impressions. I know the internal speaker of a recorder is terribly important to some people. For me an internal speaker doesn’t mean much and I suppose that’s probably because I’ve used so many professional recording solutions without speakers so I’m probably used to monitoring with headphones. I will say that the internal speaker of the LS-14 does grab the attention of the ears and has quite a pleasant sound to it. The LS-14 is bigger than I had expected but small enough for portable field use. If you want something smaller then go for the LS-P4 which has several advantages over the LS-14. The LS-P4 has a better voice guidance system though still no match for the DM4 in this area. I’ve played with the Smart Level -rehursal - mode of the LS-14 which is very nice however its not the final say when it comes to adjusting levels. In the end it comes down to your personal taste, do you want the smart level function of the LS-14 or perhaps you would prefer the “Look Ahead” buffer of the LS-P4. Whatever your preference both seem to work well. I have my LS-14 running from a USB Powerbank and I’m going to test to see just how much battery life I’ll et from the bank on the recorder in the next few days. I’m not at all concerned that the LS-14 cannot recharge batteries internally, the Zoom recorders don’t do this so again its something I’ve become accustomed to. The plastic build of the LS-14 is excellent and not the shoddy plastic build that was the Olympus DM-7. The Line-in socket is a welcome addition to a recorder of this size and I look forward to capturing audio from it. I hope an included line-in will mean a pretty much record and forget idea when capturing. As yet I’ve not set the Date and Time, voice Guidance doesn’t work with this setting it seems. The menu system takes a little getting used to but at least it can be navigated. I haven’t yet found a way to erase multiple files form memory, I can certainly erase 1 file at a time. I’m pleased to see the Olympus recorder supporting PCM Wave format all the way up to 96KHZ 24-bit so very good for those of us who want to record from turntables or want that extra excitement when capturing live music. Its a pity the LS-14 will not record FLAC and its quite possible that the processor in the LS-14 isn’t quite powerful enough to manage what the LS-P4 does in this regard. So that’s pretty much it as far as I’m concerned with the LS-14 which I’ve been exploring for the last 2 hours. I found Neal’s review very helpful along with the knowledge obtained from other list members here. -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Groups.io Links: You receive all messages sent to this group. View/Reply Online (#1973): https
Re: [all-audio] Olympus LS-14 Recorder
As we’ve lamented previously its terribly sad that Olympus chose not to carry on with the development of the DM-4 as it included a whole heap of useful features that were never finished. > On 21 Feb 2019, at 2:25 am, Hamit Campos wrote: > > That is 1 thing I did find interesting about the new DM-720 and the P4. I > think they had the British lady say more stuff. Am I right? That's also why > they don't and won't match the DM-4. The DM-4 had an actual TTS engine in it. > > On 2/20/2019 9:57 AM, Dane Trethowan wrote: >> Yes it is a shame about XLR connectivity however the unit is small so adding >> that functionality would have made the recorder that little bit larger. >> I can see a good reason as to why people would buy this recorder if it had >> XLR connectivity as it would be a very cheap and practical studio device >> even though the unit isn't a multi track recorder. >> As things stand I'm very pleased with the recorder the way it is and I'll >> probably end up using the recorder more often than I've done the LS-P4 >> though its early days yet and the P4 does have some advantages over the 14. >> As for the LS-100? Well it sits in the bottom draw. >> >> >> -Original Message- >> From: all-audio@groups.io On Behalf Of Hamit Campos >> Sent: Thursday, 21 February 2019 1:51 AM >> To: all-audio@groups.io >> Subject: Re: [all-audio] Olympus LS-14 Recorder >> >> Dain to erace everything after you've been playing stuff hit the function >> key all the way to the left. Then hit the erace key. Now if you remember how >> erace use to work on the older recorders were you had to conferm 2 times >> you'll be good. But before that you'll get a choice of erace 1 file or all >> or multible. Choose all. Yeah Smart Mode ain't perfect. But it can be and >> has mostly been for me. Shame the LS-100 didn't have it and shame the LS-14 >> don't have XLRs. Again things I thought after getting mine when I got it. >> >> On 2/20/2019 5:04 AM, Dane Trethowan wrote: >>> I finally received my LS-14 recorder today so here are my impressions. >>> I know the internal speaker of a recorder is terribly important to some >>> people. For me an internal speaker doesn’t mean much and I suppose that’s >>> probably because I’ve used so many professional recording solutions without >>> speakers so I’m probably used to monitoring with headphones. >>> I will say that the internal speaker of the LS-14 does grab the attention >>> of the ears and has quite a pleasant sound to it. >>> The LS-14 is bigger than I had expected but small enough for portable field >>> use. If you want something smaller then go for the LS-P4 which has several >>> advantages over the LS-14. >>> The LS-P4 has a better voice guidance system though still no match for the >>> DM4 in this area. >>> I’ve played with the Smart Level -rehursal - mode of the LS-14 which is >>> very nice however its not the final say when it comes to adjusting levels. >>> In the end it comes down to your personal taste, do you want the smart >>> level function of the LS-14 or perhaps you would prefer the “Look Ahead” >>> buffer of the LS-P4. Whatever your preference both seem to work well. >>> I have my LS-14 running from a USB Powerbank and I’m going to test to see >>> just how much battery life I’ll et from the bank on the recorder in the >>> next few days. >>> I’m not at all concerned that the LS-14 cannot recharge batteries >>> internally, the Zoom recorders don’t do this so again its something I’ve >>> become accustomed to. >>> The plastic build of the LS-14 is excellent and not the shoddy plastic >>> build that was the Olympus DM-7. >>> The Line-in socket is a welcome addition to a recorder of this size and I >>> look forward to capturing audio from it. I hope an included line-in will >>> mean a pretty much record and forget idea when capturing. >>> As yet I’ve not set the Date and Time, voice Guidance doesn’t work with >>> this setting it seems. >>> The menu system takes a little getting used to but at least it can be >>> navigated. >>> I haven’t yet found a way to erase multiple files form memory, I can >>> certainly erase 1 file at a time. >>> I’m pleased to see the Olympus recorder supporting PCM Wave format all the >>> way up to 96KHZ 24-bit so very good for those of us who want to record from >>> turntables or want that extra excitement when capturing live music. >>> Its a pity the LS-14 will not record FLAC and its quite poss
Re: [all-audio] Olympus LS-14 Recorder
That is 1 thing I did find interesting about the new DM-720 and the P4. I think they had the British lady say more stuff. Am I right? That's also why they don't and won't match the DM-4. The DM-4 had an actual TTS engine in it. On 2/20/2019 9:57 AM, Dane Trethowan wrote: Yes it is a shame about XLR connectivity however the unit is small so adding that functionality would have made the recorder that little bit larger. I can see a good reason as to why people would buy this recorder if it had XLR connectivity as it would be a very cheap and practical studio device even though the unit isn't a multi track recorder. As things stand I'm very pleased with the recorder the way it is and I'll probably end up using the recorder more often than I've done the LS-P4 though its early days yet and the P4 does have some advantages over the 14. As for the LS-100? Well it sits in the bottom draw. -Original Message- From: all-audio@groups.io On Behalf Of Hamit Campos Sent: Thursday, 21 February 2019 1:51 AM To: all-audio@groups.io Subject: Re: [all-audio] Olympus LS-14 Recorder Dain to erace everything after you've been playing stuff hit the function key all the way to the left. Then hit the erace key. Now if you remember how erace use to work on the older recorders were you had to conferm 2 times you'll be good. But before that you'll get a choice of erace 1 file or all or multible. Choose all. Yeah Smart Mode ain't perfect. But it can be and has mostly been for me. Shame the LS-100 didn't have it and shame the LS-14 don't have XLRs. Again things I thought after getting mine when I got it. On 2/20/2019 5:04 AM, Dane Trethowan wrote: I finally received my LS-14 recorder today so here are my impressions. I know the internal speaker of a recorder is terribly important to some people. For me an internal speaker doesn’t mean much and I suppose that’s probably because I’ve used so many professional recording solutions without speakers so I’m probably used to monitoring with headphones. I will say that the internal speaker of the LS-14 does grab the attention of the ears and has quite a pleasant sound to it. The LS-14 is bigger than I had expected but small enough for portable field use. If you want something smaller then go for the LS-P4 which has several advantages over the LS-14. The LS-P4 has a better voice guidance system though still no match for the DM4 in this area. I’ve played with the Smart Level -rehursal - mode of the LS-14 which is very nice however its not the final say when it comes to adjusting levels. In the end it comes down to your personal taste, do you want the smart level function of the LS-14 or perhaps you would prefer the “Look Ahead” buffer of the LS-P4. Whatever your preference both seem to work well. I have my LS-14 running from a USB Powerbank and I’m going to test to see just how much battery life I’ll et from the bank on the recorder in the next few days. I’m not at all concerned that the LS-14 cannot recharge batteries internally, the Zoom recorders don’t do this so again its something I’ve become accustomed to. The plastic build of the LS-14 is excellent and not the shoddy plastic build that was the Olympus DM-7. The Line-in socket is a welcome addition to a recorder of this size and I look forward to capturing audio from it. I hope an included line-in will mean a pretty much record and forget idea when capturing. As yet I’ve not set the Date and Time, voice Guidance doesn’t work with this setting it seems. The menu system takes a little getting used to but at least it can be navigated. I haven’t yet found a way to erase multiple files form memory, I can certainly erase 1 file at a time. I’m pleased to see the Olympus recorder supporting PCM Wave format all the way up to 96KHZ 24-bit so very good for those of us who want to record from turntables or want that extra excitement when capturing live music. Its a pity the LS-14 will not record FLAC and its quite possible that the processor in the LS-14 isn’t quite powerful enough to manage what the LS-P4 does in this regard. So that’s pretty much it as far as I’m concerned with the LS-14 which I’ve been exploring for the last 2 hours. I found Neal’s review very helpful along with the knowledge obtained from other list members here. -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Groups.io Links: You receive all messages sent to this group. View/Reply Online (#1971): https://groups.io/g/all-audio/message/1971 Mute This Topic: https://groups.io/mt/29939004/21656 Group Owner: all-audio+ow...@groups.io Unsubscribe: https://groups.io/g/all-audio/leave/1074140/405281159/xyzzy [arch...@mail-archive.com] -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
Re: [all-audio] Olympus LS-14 Recorder
Yes it is a shame about XLR connectivity however the unit is small so adding that functionality would have made the recorder that little bit larger. I can see a good reason as to why people would buy this recorder if it had XLR connectivity as it would be a very cheap and practical studio device even though the unit isn't a multi track recorder. As things stand I'm very pleased with the recorder the way it is and I'll probably end up using the recorder more often than I've done the LS-P4 though its early days yet and the P4 does have some advantages over the 14. As for the LS-100? Well it sits in the bottom draw. -Original Message- From: all-audio@groups.io On Behalf Of Hamit Campos Sent: Thursday, 21 February 2019 1:51 AM To: all-audio@groups.io Subject: Re: [all-audio] Olympus LS-14 Recorder Dain to erace everything after you've been playing stuff hit the function key all the way to the left. Then hit the erace key. Now if you remember how erace use to work on the older recorders were you had to conferm 2 times you'll be good. But before that you'll get a choice of erace 1 file or all or multible. Choose all. Yeah Smart Mode ain't perfect. But it can be and has mostly been for me. Shame the LS-100 didn't have it and shame the LS-14 don't have XLRs. Again things I thought after getting mine when I got it. On 2/20/2019 5:04 AM, Dane Trethowan wrote: > I finally received my LS-14 recorder today so here are my impressions. > I know the internal speaker of a recorder is terribly important to some > people. For me an internal speaker doesn’t mean much and I suppose that’s > probably because I’ve used so many professional recording solutions without > speakers so I’m probably used to monitoring with headphones. > I will say that the internal speaker of the LS-14 does grab the attention of > the ears and has quite a pleasant sound to it. > The LS-14 is bigger than I had expected but small enough for portable field > use. If you want something smaller then go for the LS-P4 which has several > advantages over the LS-14. > The LS-P4 has a better voice guidance system though still no match for the > DM4 in this area. > I’ve played with the Smart Level -rehursal - mode of the LS-14 which is very > nice however its not the final say when it comes to adjusting levels. > In the end it comes down to your personal taste, do you want the smart level > function of the LS-14 or perhaps you would prefer the “Look Ahead” buffer of > the LS-P4. Whatever your preference both seem to work well. > I have my LS-14 running from a USB Powerbank and I’m going to test to see > just how much battery life I’ll et from the bank on the recorder in the next > few days. > I’m not at all concerned that the LS-14 cannot recharge batteries internally, > the Zoom recorders don’t do this so again its something I’ve become > accustomed to. > The plastic build of the LS-14 is excellent and not the shoddy plastic build > that was the Olympus DM-7. > The Line-in socket is a welcome addition to a recorder of this size and I > look forward to capturing audio from it. I hope an included line-in will mean > a pretty much record and forget idea when capturing. > As yet I’ve not set the Date and Time, voice Guidance doesn’t work with this > setting it seems. > The menu system takes a little getting used to but at least it can be > navigated. > I haven’t yet found a way to erase multiple files form memory, I can > certainly erase 1 file at a time. > I’m pleased to see the Olympus recorder supporting PCM Wave format all the > way up to 96KHZ 24-bit so very good for those of us who want to record from > turntables or want that extra excitement when capturing live music. > Its a pity the LS-14 will not record FLAC and its quite possible that the > processor in the LS-14 isn’t quite powerful enough to manage what the LS-P4 > does in this regard. > So that’s pretty much it as far as I’m concerned with the LS-14 which I’ve > been exploring for the last 2 hours. > I found Neal’s review very helpful along with the knowledge obtained from > other list members here. > > > > -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Groups.io Links: You receive all messages sent to this group. View/Reply Online (#1969): https://groups.io/g/all-audio/message/1969 Mute This Topic: https://groups.io/mt/29939004/21656 Group Owner: all-audio+ow...@groups.io Unsubscribe: https://groups.io/g/all-audio/leave/1074140/405281159/xyzzy [arch...@mail-archive.com] -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
Re: [all-audio] Olympus LS-14 Recorder
Dain to erace everything after you've been playing stuff hit the function key all the way to the left. Then hit the erace key. Now if you remember how erace use to work on the older recorders were you had to conferm 2 times you'll be good. But before that you'll get a choice of erace 1 file or all or multible. Choose all. Yeah Smart Mode ain't perfect. But it can be and has mostly been for me. Shame the LS-100 didn't have it and shame the LS-14 don't have XLRs. Again things I thought after getting mine when I got it. On 2/20/2019 5:04 AM, Dane Trethowan wrote: I finally received my LS-14 recorder today so here are my impressions. I know the internal speaker of a recorder is terribly important to some people. For me an internal speaker doesn’t mean much and I suppose that’s probably because I’ve used so many professional recording solutions without speakers so I’m probably used to monitoring with headphones. I will say that the internal speaker of the LS-14 does grab the attention of the ears and has quite a pleasant sound to it. The LS-14 is bigger than I had expected but small enough for portable field use. If you want something smaller then go for the LS-P4 which has several advantages over the LS-14. The LS-P4 has a better voice guidance system though still no match for the DM4 in this area. I’ve played with the Smart Level -rehursal - mode of the LS-14 which is very nice however its not the final say when it comes to adjusting levels. In the end it comes down to your personal taste, do you want the smart level function of the LS-14 or perhaps you would prefer the “Look Ahead” buffer of the LS-P4. Whatever your preference both seem to work well. I have my LS-14 running from a USB Powerbank and I’m going to test to see just how much battery life I’ll et from the bank on the recorder in the next few days. I’m not at all concerned that the LS-14 cannot recharge batteries internally, the Zoom recorders don’t do this so again its something I’ve become accustomed to. The plastic build of the LS-14 is excellent and not the shoddy plastic build that was the Olympus DM-7. The Line-in socket is a welcome addition to a recorder of this size and I look forward to capturing audio from it. I hope an included line-in will mean a pretty much record and forget idea when capturing. As yet I’ve not set the Date and Time, voice Guidance doesn’t work with this setting it seems. The menu system takes a little getting used to but at least it can be navigated. I haven’t yet found a way to erase multiple files form memory, I can certainly erase 1 file at a time. I’m pleased to see the Olympus recorder supporting PCM Wave format all the way up to 96KHZ 24-bit so very good for those of us who want to record from turntables or want that extra excitement when capturing live music. Its a pity the LS-14 will not record FLAC and its quite possible that the processor in the LS-14 isn’t quite powerful enough to manage what the LS-P4 does in this regard. So that’s pretty much it as far as I’m concerned with the LS-14 which I’ve been exploring for the last 2 hours. I found Neal’s review very helpful along with the knowledge obtained from other list members here. -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Groups.io Links: You receive all messages sent to this group. View/Reply Online (#1968): https://groups.io/g/all-audio/message/1968 Mute This Topic: https://groups.io/mt/29939004/21656 Group Owner: all-audio+ow...@groups.io Unsubscribe: https://groups.io/g/all-audio/leave/1074140/405281159/xyzzy [arch...@mail-archive.com] -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
[all-audio] Olympus LS-14 Recorder
I finally received my LS-14 recorder today so here are my impressions. I know the internal speaker of a recorder is terribly important to some people. For me an internal speaker doesn’t mean much and I suppose that’s probably because I’ve used so many professional recording solutions without speakers so I’m probably used to monitoring with headphones. I will say that the internal speaker of the LS-14 does grab the attention of the ears and has quite a pleasant sound to it. The LS-14 is bigger than I had expected but small enough for portable field use. If you want something smaller then go for the LS-P4 which has several advantages over the LS-14. The LS-P4 has a better voice guidance system though still no match for the DM4 in this area. I’ve played with the Smart Level -rehursal - mode of the LS-14 which is very nice however its not the final say when it comes to adjusting levels. In the end it comes down to your personal taste, do you want the smart level function of the LS-14 or perhaps you would prefer the “Look Ahead” buffer of the LS-P4. Whatever your preference both seem to work well. I have my LS-14 running from a USB Powerbank and I’m going to test to see just how much battery life I’ll et from the bank on the recorder in the next few days. I’m not at all concerned that the LS-14 cannot recharge batteries internally, the Zoom recorders don’t do this so again its something I’ve become accustomed to. The plastic build of the LS-14 is excellent and not the shoddy plastic build that was the Olympus DM-7. The Line-in socket is a welcome addition to a recorder of this size and I look forward to capturing audio from it. I hope an included line-in will mean a pretty much record and forget idea when capturing. As yet I’ve not set the Date and Time, voice Guidance doesn’t work with this setting it seems. The menu system takes a little getting used to but at least it can be navigated. I haven’t yet found a way to erase multiple files form memory, I can certainly erase 1 file at a time. I’m pleased to see the Olympus recorder supporting PCM Wave format all the way up to 96KHZ 24-bit so very good for those of us who want to record from turntables or want that extra excitement when capturing live music. Its a pity the LS-14 will not record FLAC and its quite possible that the processor in the LS-14 isn’t quite powerful enough to manage what the LS-P4 does in this regard. So that’s pretty much it as far as I’m concerned with the LS-14 which I’ve been exploring for the last 2 hours. I found Neal’s review very helpful along with the knowledge obtained from other list members here. -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Groups.io Links: You receive all messages sent to this group. View/Reply Online (#1965): https://groups.io/g/all-audio/message/1965 Mute This Topic: https://groups.io/mt/29939004/21656 Group Owner: all-audio+ow...@groups.io Unsubscribe: https://groups.io/g/all-audio/leave/1074140/405281159/xyzzy [arch...@mail-archive.com] -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
Re: [all-audio] Olympus Ls-14
Hi John. Pleased about that. Enjoy happy recording. Very best wishes. Andy. - Original Message - From: "John Heath via Groups.Io" To: Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2019 4:55 AM Subject: Re: [all-audio] Olympus Ls-14 Thanks! Got it. -Original Message- From: Andy via Groups.Io Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2019 9:14 PM To: all-audio@groups.io Subject: Re: [all-audio] Olympus Ls-14 Here it is John. Enjoy the device and the mp3. Download link: https://www.sendspace.com/file/9e6yku Very best wishes. Andy. - Original Message - From: "John Heath via Groups.Io" To: Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2019 12:27 AM Subject: Re: [all-audio] Olympus Ls-14 Thanks so much. It looks like quite the machine. -Original Message- From: Andy via Groups.Io Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2019 6:30 PM To: all-audio@groups.io Subject: Re: [all-audio] Olympus Ls-14 Hi John. I have a podcaste doen by Neal Ewars, who is himself blind, and I'm currently uploading it for you to Sendspace. I will send you the download link as soon as it's up. Very best wishes. Andy. - Original Message - From: "John Heath via Groups.Io" To: Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2019 4:44 PM Subject: Re: [all-audio] Olympus Ls-14 Sorry for joining late, but I just realized that the recorder a friend gave me is in fact the one you are talking, the 14. Anyone know where I can get operating instructions? Looks like a wonderful solid machine. -Original Message- From: Hamit Campos Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2019 9:51 AM To: all-audio@groups.io Subject: Re: [all-audio] Olympus Ls-14 Yeah the most epic thing the LS-14 has is smart mode. I like smart mode always came in handy. For those that don't know, what happens in smart mode is you press record. The mics open up at a low level and thus you may not hear much if at all on yuor headphones. But the machine is listening. So the idea is you then if it's a practised thing make the loudest sound you're gonna record for this recording. Than as you do this you press record again or if it counts down you let it run out and it re-opens the mics at a proper level for the loudest sound you are having it hear. Too bad the LS-100 didn't have this and too bad the 14 doesn't have XLRs or phantum power for true studio mics. But I did and still kinda do use it with my AT-8022. I like how it's mics are spread apart. At 90 degrees the LS-14 I find gives me a wider immige than the XY H6 mics. Meh even at 120 because of how the H6 mics are pointed they are wider but not spacious like the Olympus mics. I did suggest making an A B peace for the H6 and 5 now they're doing snap off peaces. I even had them look up the LS-14 to see how the mics are. But again I don't worry much. I use my AT-8022. And I really would like to get a independent pare of mics. like the new SE Electronics SE7 mics. They're 199$ a factory matched stereo pair. You will have to get the XLR cables your self though. On 2/10/2019 12:02 AM, Dane Trethowan wrote: I’m very glad you mentioned the Olympus LS-14 actually. I tried to get hold of one last year but had to settle for the LS-P4 - no problem there -. One did come up on eBay just recently so I snapped it up. In a few days I will be able to see what the LS-14 offers and of course I’ll be using the excellent review Neal Ewers did on the machine as a reference. Pity about not being able to use rechargeable batteries with the LS-14 so I’ll use one of the Powerbanks I have instead. On 10 Feb 2019, at 3:46 pm, Hamit Campos wrote: Ah well 48 KHZ 24 bits is the web standard anyways. I guess I'm just coming from another perspective I heard on another of Scott's shows. Where if you record in 96 let's say, when you resample you'll get a better 48 24 recording. I've even used 44 thousand 100 16 bits CD audio on mine just because the LS-14 can't play anything elase in mono. It has to be CD quality for it to work in mono. Which I was confused by when I got it. Because all the DMs I'd had before this even playeed 48 16 in mono though they didn't record that. But oh well. I can't wait to hear some F8N samples. On 2/9/2019 9:51 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote: I chose 96K 24-bit because not all functions of the Zoom F8N support higher bit rates, Auto Mix for example but nevertheless 96K is a damn good rate to be using with 24 bit. I can understand where the engineer is coming from in a lot of ways setting the sampling rate at 48KHZ. Whilst I prefer higher myself a lot of computers would probably have trouble handling any more than 48K depending on the software and Sound Card being used so that would be one factor to take into consideration. With the Mac which I use most of the time this isn’t a problem. The other point being here is that you’re making live recordings and you probably won’t be wanting to master them. So back to the recorder itself. I’ve been going through the menu options as I’
Re: [all-audio] Olympus Ls-14
Thanks! Got it. -Original Message- From: Andy via Groups.Io Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2019 9:14 PM To: all-audio@groups.io Subject: Re: [all-audio] Olympus Ls-14 Here it is John. Enjoy the device and the mp3. Download link: https://www.sendspace.com/file/9e6yku Very best wishes. Andy. - Original Message - From: "John Heath via Groups.Io" To: Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2019 12:27 AM Subject: Re: [all-audio] Olympus Ls-14 Thanks so much. It looks like quite the machine. -Original Message- From: Andy via Groups.Io Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2019 6:30 PM To: all-audio@groups.io Subject: Re: [all-audio] Olympus Ls-14 Hi John. I have a podcaste doen by Neal Ewars, who is himself blind, and I'm currently uploading it for you to Sendspace. I will send you the download link as soon as it's up. Very best wishes. Andy. - Original Message - From: "John Heath via Groups.Io" To: Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2019 4:44 PM Subject: Re: [all-audio] Olympus Ls-14 Sorry for joining late, but I just realized that the recorder a friend gave me is in fact the one you are talking, the 14. Anyone know where I can get operating instructions? Looks like a wonderful solid machine. -Original Message- From: Hamit Campos Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2019 9:51 AM To: all-audio@groups.io Subject: Re: [all-audio] Olympus Ls-14 Yeah the most epic thing the LS-14 has is smart mode. I like smart mode always came in handy. For those that don't know, what happens in smart mode is you press record. The mics open up at a low level and thus you may not hear much if at all on yuor headphones. But the machine is listening. So the idea is you then if it's a practised thing make the loudest sound you're gonna record for this recording. Than as you do this you press record again or if it counts down you let it run out and it re-opens the mics at a proper level for the loudest sound you are having it hear. Too bad the LS-100 didn't have this and too bad the 14 doesn't have XLRs or phantum power for true studio mics. But I did and still kinda do use it with my AT-8022. I like how it's mics are spread apart. At 90 degrees the LS-14 I find gives me a wider immige than the XY H6 mics. Meh even at 120 because of how the H6 mics are pointed they are wider but not spacious like the Olympus mics. I did suggest making an A B peace for the H6 and 5 now they're doing snap off peaces. I even had them look up the LS-14 to see how the mics are. But again I don't worry much. I use my AT-8022. And I really would like to get a independent pare of mics. like the new SE Electronics SE7 mics. They're 199$ a factory matched stereo pair. You will have to get the XLR cables your self though. On 2/10/2019 12:02 AM, Dane Trethowan wrote: I’m very glad you mentioned the Olympus LS-14 actually. I tried to get hold of one last year but had to settle for the LS-P4 - no problem there -. One did come up on eBay just recently so I snapped it up. In a few days I will be able to see what the LS-14 offers and of course I’ll be using the excellent review Neal Ewers did on the machine as a reference. Pity about not being able to use rechargeable batteries with the LS-14 so I’ll use one of the Powerbanks I have instead. On 10 Feb 2019, at 3:46 pm, Hamit Campos wrote: Ah well 48 KHZ 24 bits is the web standard anyways. I guess I'm just coming from another perspective I heard on another of Scott's shows. Where if you record in 96 let's say, when you resample you'll get a better 48 24 recording. I've even used 44 thousand 100 16 bits CD audio on mine just because the LS-14 can't play anything elase in mono. It has to be CD quality for it to work in mono. Which I was confused by when I got it. Because all the DMs I'd had before this even playeed 48 16 in mono though they didn't record that. But oh well. I can't wait to hear some F8N samples. On 2/9/2019 9:51 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote: I chose 96K 24-bit because not all functions of the Zoom F8N support higher bit rates, Auto Mix for example but nevertheless 96K is a damn good rate to be using with 24 bit. I can understand where the engineer is coming from in a lot of ways setting the sampling rate at 48KHZ. Whilst I prefer higher myself a lot of computers would probably have trouble handling any more than 48K depending on the software and Sound Card being used so that would be one factor to take into consideration. With the Mac which I use most of the time this isn’t a problem. The other point being here is that you’re making live recordings and you probably won’t be wanting to master them. So back to the recorder itself. I’ve been going through the menu options as I’ve been telling the list over the last month or so. The first 2 options in the memory are “Finder” and “Medadata For Next Take”. The Finder allows you to search for content within folders on the SD card or cards if you have more than one installe
Re: [all-audio] Olympus Ls-14
Here it is John. Enjoy the device and the mp3. Download link: https://www.sendspace.com/file/9e6yku Very best wishes. Andy. - Original Message - From: "John Heath via Groups.Io" To: Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2019 12:27 AM Subject: Re: [all-audio] Olympus Ls-14 Thanks so much. It looks like quite the machine. -Original Message- From: Andy via Groups.Io Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2019 6:30 PM To: all-audio@groups.io Subject: Re: [all-audio] Olympus Ls-14 Hi John. I have a podcaste doen by Neal Ewars, who is himself blind, and I'm currently uploading it for you to Sendspace. I will send you the download link as soon as it's up. Very best wishes. Andy. - Original Message - From: "John Heath via Groups.Io" To: Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2019 4:44 PM Subject: Re: [all-audio] Olympus Ls-14 Sorry for joining late, but I just realized that the recorder a friend gave me is in fact the one you are talking, the 14. Anyone know where I can get operating instructions? Looks like a wonderful solid machine. -Original Message- From: Hamit Campos Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2019 9:51 AM To: all-audio@groups.io Subject: Re: [all-audio] Olympus Ls-14 Yeah the most epic thing the LS-14 has is smart mode. I like smart mode always came in handy. For those that don't know, what happens in smart mode is you press record. The mics open up at a low level and thus you may not hear much if at all on yuor headphones. But the machine is listening. So the idea is you then if it's a practised thing make the loudest sound you're gonna record for this recording. Than as you do this you press record again or if it counts down you let it run out and it re-opens the mics at a proper level for the loudest sound you are having it hear. Too bad the LS-100 didn't have this and too bad the 14 doesn't have XLRs or phantum power for true studio mics. But I did and still kinda do use it with my AT-8022. I like how it's mics are spread apart. At 90 degrees the LS-14 I find gives me a wider immige than the XY H6 mics. Meh even at 120 because of how the H6 mics are pointed they are wider but not spacious like the Olympus mics. I did suggest making an A B peace for the H6 and 5 now they're doing snap off peaces. I even had them look up the LS-14 to see how the mics are. But again I don't worry much. I use my AT-8022. And I really would like to get a independent pare of mics. like the new SE Electronics SE7 mics. They're 199$ a factory matched stereo pair. You will have to get the XLR cables your self though. On 2/10/2019 12:02 AM, Dane Trethowan wrote: I’m very glad you mentioned the Olympus LS-14 actually. I tried to get hold of one last year but had to settle for the LS-P4 - no problem there -. One did come up on eBay just recently so I snapped it up. In a few days I will be able to see what the LS-14 offers and of course I’ll be using the excellent review Neal Ewers did on the machine as a reference. Pity about not being able to use rechargeable batteries with the LS-14 so I’ll use one of the Powerbanks I have instead. On 10 Feb 2019, at 3:46 pm, Hamit Campos wrote: Ah well 48 KHZ 24 bits is the web standard anyways. I guess I'm just coming from another perspective I heard on another of Scott's shows. Where if you record in 96 let's say, when you resample you'll get a better 48 24 recording. I've even used 44 thousand 100 16 bits CD audio on mine just because the LS-14 can't play anything elase in mono. It has to be CD quality for it to work in mono. Which I was confused by when I got it. Because all the DMs I'd had before this even playeed 48 16 in mono though they didn't record that. But oh well. I can't wait to hear some F8N samples. On 2/9/2019 9:51 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote: I chose 96K 24-bit because not all functions of the Zoom F8N support higher bit rates, Auto Mix for example but nevertheless 96K is a damn good rate to be using with 24 bit. I can understand where the engineer is coming from in a lot of ways setting the sampling rate at 48KHZ. Whilst I prefer higher myself a lot of computers would probably have trouble handling any more than 48K depending on the software and Sound Card being used so that would be one factor to take into consideration. With the Mac which I use most of the time this isn’t a problem. The other point being here is that you’re making live recordings and you probably won’t be wanting to master them. So back to the recorder itself. I’ve been going through the menu options as I’ve been telling the list over the last month or so. The first 2 options in the memory are “Finder” and “Medadata For Next Take”. The Finder allows you to search for content within folders on the SD card or cards if you have more than one installed. I’ve not examined this option but will do in the future when I work out how to connect a Keyboard to the F8N though even then without speech there seems little point. On
Re: [all-audio] Olympus Ls-14
Thanks so much. It looks like quite the machine. -Original Message- From: Andy via Groups.Io Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2019 6:30 PM To: all-audio@groups.io Subject: Re: [all-audio] Olympus Ls-14 Hi John. I have a podcaste doen by Neal Ewars, who is himself blind, and I'm currently uploading it for you to Sendspace. I will send you the download link as soon as it's up. Very best wishes. Andy. - Original Message - From: "John Heath via Groups.Io" To: Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2019 4:44 PM Subject: Re: [all-audio] Olympus Ls-14 Sorry for joining late, but I just realized that the recorder a friend gave me is in fact the one you are talking, the 14. Anyone know where I can get operating instructions? Looks like a wonderful solid machine. -Original Message- From: Hamit Campos Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2019 9:51 AM To: all-audio@groups.io Subject: Re: [all-audio] Olympus Ls-14 Yeah the most epic thing the LS-14 has is smart mode. I like smart mode always came in handy. For those that don't know, what happens in smart mode is you press record. The mics open up at a low level and thus you may not hear much if at all on yuor headphones. But the machine is listening. So the idea is you then if it's a practised thing make the loudest sound you're gonna record for this recording. Than as you do this you press record again or if it counts down you let it run out and it re-opens the mics at a proper level for the loudest sound you are having it hear. Too bad the LS-100 didn't have this and too bad the 14 doesn't have XLRs or phantum power for true studio mics. But I did and still kinda do use it with my AT-8022. I like how it's mics are spread apart. At 90 degrees the LS-14 I find gives me a wider immige than the XY H6 mics. Meh even at 120 because of how the H6 mics are pointed they are wider but not spacious like the Olympus mics. I did suggest making an A B peace for the H6 and 5 now they're doing snap off peaces. I even had them look up the LS-14 to see how the mics are. But again I don't worry much. I use my AT-8022. And I really would like to get a independent pare of mics. like the new SE Electronics SE7 mics. They're 199$ a factory matched stereo pair. You will have to get the XLR cables your self though. On 2/10/2019 12:02 AM, Dane Trethowan wrote: I’m very glad you mentioned the Olympus LS-14 actually. I tried to get hold of one last year but had to settle for the LS-P4 - no problem there -. One did come up on eBay just recently so I snapped it up. In a few days I will be able to see what the LS-14 offers and of course I’ll be using the excellent review Neal Ewers did on the machine as a reference. Pity about not being able to use rechargeable batteries with the LS-14 so I’ll use one of the Powerbanks I have instead. On 10 Feb 2019, at 3:46 pm, Hamit Campos wrote: Ah well 48 KHZ 24 bits is the web standard anyways. I guess I'm just coming from another perspective I heard on another of Scott's shows. Where if you record in 96 let's say, when you resample you'll get a better 48 24 recording. I've even used 44 thousand 100 16 bits CD audio on mine just because the LS-14 can't play anything elase in mono. It has to be CD quality for it to work in mono. Which I was confused by when I got it. Because all the DMs I'd had before this even playeed 48 16 in mono though they didn't record that. But oh well. I can't wait to hear some F8N samples. On 2/9/2019 9:51 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote: I chose 96K 24-bit because not all functions of the Zoom F8N support higher bit rates, Auto Mix for example but nevertheless 96K is a damn good rate to be using with 24 bit. I can understand where the engineer is coming from in a lot of ways setting the sampling rate at 48KHZ. Whilst I prefer higher myself a lot of computers would probably have trouble handling any more than 48K depending on the software and Sound Card being used so that would be one factor to take into consideration. With the Mac which I use most of the time this isn’t a problem. The other point being here is that you’re making live recordings and you probably won’t be wanting to master them. So back to the recorder itself. I’ve been going through the menu options as I’ve been telling the list over the last month or so. The first 2 options in the memory are “Finder” and “Medadata For Next Take”. The Finder allows you to search for content within folders on the SD card or cards if you have more than one installed. I’ve not examined this option but will do in the future when I work out how to connect a Keyboard to the F8N though even then without speech there seems little point. On the other hand Enter Metadata for Next Take may be slightly useable with a keyboard. No, I won’t get any feedback however I should be able to remember the order in which the metadata is presented thus I can move through the fields etc. The manual for the F8N gives specific keyboard commands
Re: [all-audio] Olympus Ls-14
Hi John. I have a podcaste doen by Neal Ewars, who is himself blind, and I'm currently uploading it for you to Sendspace. I will send you the download link as soon as it's up. Very best wishes. Andy. - Original Message - From: "John Heath via Groups.Io" To: Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2019 4:44 PM Subject: Re: [all-audio] Olympus Ls-14 Sorry for joining late, but I just realized that the recorder a friend gave me is in fact the one you are talking, the 14. Anyone know where I can get operating instructions? Looks like a wonderful solid machine. -Original Message- From: Hamit Campos Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2019 9:51 AM To: all-audio@groups.io Subject: Re: [all-audio] Olympus Ls-14 Yeah the most epic thing the LS-14 has is smart mode. I like smart mode always came in handy. For those that don't know, what happens in smart mode is you press record. The mics open up at a low level and thus you may not hear much if at all on yuor headphones. But the machine is listening. So the idea is you then if it's a practised thing make the loudest sound you're gonna record for this recording. Than as you do this you press record again or if it counts down you let it run out and it re-opens the mics at a proper level for the loudest sound you are having it hear. Too bad the LS-100 didn't have this and too bad the 14 doesn't have XLRs or phantum power for true studio mics. But I did and still kinda do use it with my AT-8022. I like how it's mics are spread apart. At 90 degrees the LS-14 I find gives me a wider immige than the XY H6 mics. Meh even at 120 because of how the H6 mics are pointed they are wider but not spacious like the Olympus mics. I did suggest making an A B peace for the H6 and 5 now they're doing snap off peaces. I even had them look up the LS-14 to see how the mics are. But again I don't worry much. I use my AT-8022. And I really would like to get a independent pare of mics. like the new SE Electronics SE7 mics. They're 199$ a factory matched stereo pair. You will have to get the XLR cables your self though. On 2/10/2019 12:02 AM, Dane Trethowan wrote: I’m very glad you mentioned the Olympus LS-14 actually. I tried to get hold of one last year but had to settle for the LS-P4 - no problem there -. One did come up on eBay just recently so I snapped it up. In a few days I will be able to see what the LS-14 offers and of course I’ll be using the excellent review Neal Ewers did on the machine as a reference. Pity about not being able to use rechargeable batteries with the LS-14 so I’ll use one of the Powerbanks I have instead. On 10 Feb 2019, at 3:46 pm, Hamit Campos wrote: Ah well 48 KHZ 24 bits is the web standard anyways. I guess I'm just coming from another perspective I heard on another of Scott's shows. Where if you record in 96 let's say, when you resample you'll get a better 48 24 recording. I've even used 44 thousand 100 16 bits CD audio on mine just because the LS-14 can't play anything elase in mono. It has to be CD quality for it to work in mono. Which I was confused by when I got it. Because all the DMs I'd had before this even playeed 48 16 in mono though they didn't record that. But oh well. I can't wait to hear some F8N samples. On 2/9/2019 9:51 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote: I chose 96K 24-bit because not all functions of the Zoom F8N support higher bit rates, Auto Mix for example but nevertheless 96K is a damn good rate to be using with 24 bit. I can understand where the engineer is coming from in a lot of ways setting the sampling rate at 48KHZ. Whilst I prefer higher myself a lot of computers would probably have trouble handling any more than 48K depending on the software and Sound Card being used so that would be one factor to take into consideration. With the Mac which I use most of the time this isn’t a problem. The other point being here is that you’re making live recordings and you probably won’t be wanting to master them. So back to the recorder itself. I’ve been going through the menu options as I’ve been telling the list over the last month or so. The first 2 options in the memory are “Finder” and “Medadata For Next Take”. The Finder allows you to search for content within folders on the SD card or cards if you have more than one installed. I’ve not examined this option but will do in the future when I work out how to connect a Keyboard to the F8N though even then without speech there seems little point. On the other hand Enter Metadata for Next Take may be slightly useable with a keyboard. No, I won’t get any feedback however I should be able to remember the order in which the metadata is presented thus I can move through the fields etc. The manual for the F8N gives specific keyboard commands to do just that. The next 2 options in the menu system are Input and Output respectively and I’ll be working on those next week. On 10 Feb 2019, at 7:48 am, Hamit Campos wrote: Ah yes I forgot that. Yes
Re: [all-audio] Olympus Ls-14
Sorry for joining late, but I just realized that the recorder a friend gave me is in fact the one you are talking, the 14. Anyone know where I can get operating instructions? Looks like a wonderful solid machine. -Original Message- From: Hamit Campos Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2019 9:51 AM To: all-audio@groups.io Subject: Re: [all-audio] Olympus Ls-14 Yeah the most epic thing the LS-14 has is smart mode. I like smart mode always came in handy. For those that don't know, what happens in smart mode is you press record. The mics open up at a low level and thus you may not hear much if at all on yuor headphones. But the machine is listening. So the idea is you then if it's a practised thing make the loudest sound you're gonna record for this recording. Than as you do this you press record again or if it counts down you let it run out and it re-opens the mics at a proper level for the loudest sound you are having it hear. Too bad the LS-100 didn't have this and too bad the 14 doesn't have XLRs or phantum power for true studio mics. But I did and still kinda do use it with my AT-8022. I like how it's mics are spread apart. At 90 degrees the LS-14 I find gives me a wider immige than the XY H6 mics. Meh even at 120 because of how the H6 mics are pointed they are wider but not spacious like the Olympus mics. I did suggest making an A B peace for the H6 and 5 now they're doing snap off peaces. I even had them look up the LS-14 to see how the mics are. But again I don't worry much. I use my AT-8022. And I really would like to get a independent pare of mics. like the new SE Electronics SE7 mics. They're 199$ a factory matched stereo pair. You will have to get the XLR cables your self though. On 2/10/2019 12:02 AM, Dane Trethowan wrote: I’m very glad you mentioned the Olympus LS-14 actually. I tried to get hold of one last year but had to settle for the LS-P4 - no problem there -. One did come up on eBay just recently so I snapped it up. In a few days I will be able to see what the LS-14 offers and of course I’ll be using the excellent review Neal Ewers did on the machine as a reference. Pity about not being able to use rechargeable batteries with the LS-14 so I’ll use one of the Powerbanks I have instead. On 10 Feb 2019, at 3:46 pm, Hamit Campos wrote: Ah well 48 KHZ 24 bits is the web standard anyways. I guess I'm just coming from another perspective I heard on another of Scott's shows. Where if you record in 96 let's say, when you resample you'll get a better 48 24 recording. I've even used 44 thousand 100 16 bits CD audio on mine just because the LS-14 can't play anything elase in mono. It has to be CD quality for it to work in mono. Which I was confused by when I got it. Because all the DMs I'd had before this even playeed 48 16 in mono though they didn't record that. But oh well. I can't wait to hear some F8N samples. On 2/9/2019 9:51 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote: I chose 96K 24-bit because not all functions of the Zoom F8N support higher bit rates, Auto Mix for example but nevertheless 96K is a damn good rate to be using with 24 bit. I can understand where the engineer is coming from in a lot of ways setting the sampling rate at 48KHZ. Whilst I prefer higher myself a lot of computers would probably have trouble handling any more than 48K depending on the software and Sound Card being used so that would be one factor to take into consideration. With the Mac which I use most of the time this isn’t a problem. The other point being here is that you’re making live recordings and you probably won’t be wanting to master them. So back to the recorder itself. I’ve been going through the menu options as I’ve been telling the list over the last month or so. The first 2 options in the memory are “Finder” and “Medadata For Next Take”. The Finder allows you to search for content within folders on the SD card or cards if you have more than one installed. I’ve not examined this option but will do in the future when I work out how to connect a Keyboard to the F8N though even then without speech there seems little point. On the other hand Enter Metadata for Next Take may be slightly useable with a keyboard. No, I won’t get any feedback however I should be able to remember the order in which the metadata is presented thus I can move through the fields etc. The manual for the F8N gives specific keyboard commands to do just that. The next 2 options in the menu system are Input and Output respectively and I’ll be working on those next week. On 10 Feb 2019, at 7:48 am, Hamit Campos wrote: Ah yes I forgot that. Yes the higher the quality, the more memory you'll need. Especially if you're also planning to go multi channal. On 2/9/2019 3:28 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote: I can’t argue with the statements below. I actually have my F8N and other recorders set to 96K 24-bit but in the end its up to the individual how they want things done. One has to remember too that with higher bit
Re: [all-audio] Olympus Ls-14
Yeah the most epic thing the LS-14 has is smart mode. I like smart mode always came in handy. For those that don't know, what happens in smart mode is you press record. The mics open up at a low level and thus you may not hear much if at all on yuor headphones. But the machine is listening. So the idea is you then if it's a practised thing make the loudest sound you're gonna record for this recording. Than as you do this you press record again or if it counts down you let it run out and it re-opens the mics at a proper level for the loudest sound you are having it hear. Too bad the LS-100 didn't have this and too bad the 14 doesn't have XLRs or phantum power for true studio mics. But I did and still kinda do use it with my AT-8022. I like how it's mics are spread apart. At 90 degrees the LS-14 I find gives me a wider immige than the XY H6 mics. Meh even at 120 because of how the H6 mics are pointed they are wider but not spacious like the Olympus mics. I did suggest making an A B peace for the H6 and 5 now they're doing snap off peaces. I even had them look up the LS-14 to see how the mics are. But again I don't worry much. I use my AT-8022. And I really would like to get a independent pare of mics. like the new SE Electronics SE7 mics. They're 199$ a factory matched stereo pair. You will have to get the XLR cables your self though. On 2/10/2019 12:02 AM, Dane Trethowan wrote: I’m very glad you mentioned the Olympus LS-14 actually. I tried to get hold of one last year but had to settle for the LS-P4 - no problem there -. One did come up on eBay just recently so I snapped it up. In a few days I will be able to see what the LS-14 offers and of course I’ll be using the excellent review Neal Ewers did on the machine as a reference. Pity about not being able to use rechargeable batteries with the LS-14 so I’ll use one of the Powerbanks I have instead. On 10 Feb 2019, at 3:46 pm, Hamit Campos wrote: Ah well 48 KHZ 24 bits is the web standard anyways. I guess I'm just coming from another perspective I heard on another of Scott's shows. Where if you record in 96 let's say, when you resample you'll get a better 48 24 recording. I've even used 44 thousand 100 16 bits CD audio on mine just because the LS-14 can't play anything elase in mono. It has to be CD quality for it to work in mono. Which I was confused by when I got it. Because all the DMs I'd had before this even playeed 48 16 in mono though they didn't record that. But oh well. I can't wait to hear some F8N samples. On 2/9/2019 9:51 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote: I chose 96K 24-bit because not all functions of the Zoom F8N support higher bit rates, Auto Mix for example but nevertheless 96K is a damn good rate to be using with 24 bit. I can understand where the engineer is coming from in a lot of ways setting the sampling rate at 48KHZ. Whilst I prefer higher myself a lot of computers would probably have trouble handling any more than 48K depending on the software and Sound Card being used so that would be one factor to take into consideration. With the Mac which I use most of the time this isn’t a problem. The other point being here is that you’re making live recordings and you probably won’t be wanting to master them. So back to the recorder itself. I’ve been going through the menu options as I’ve been telling the list over the last month or so. The first 2 options in the memory are “Finder” and “Medadata For Next Take”. The Finder allows you to search for content within folders on the SD card or cards if you have more than one installed. I’ve not examined this option but will do in the future when I work out how to connect a Keyboard to the F8N though even then without speech there seems little point. On the other hand Enter Metadata for Next Take may be slightly useable with a keyboard. No, I won’t get any feedback however I should be able to remember the order in which the metadata is presented thus I can move through the fields etc. The manual for the F8N gives specific keyboard commands to do just that. The next 2 options in the menu system are Input and Output respectively and I’ll be working on those next week. On 10 Feb 2019, at 7:48 am, Hamit Campos wrote: Ah yes I forgot that. Yes the higher the quality, the more memory you'll need. Especially if you're also planning to go multi channal. On 2/9/2019 3:28 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote: I can’t argue with the statements below. I actually have my F8N and other recorders set to 96K 24-bit but in the end its up to the individual how they want things done. One has to remember too that with higher bit rates then the bigger SD memory card you’ll require. So what given the Zoom F8N can take 2 512GB memory cards? Well the so what comes to quite a bit of money to lay out if you wish to proceed down that path. On 10 Feb 2019, at 6:31 am, Hamit Campos wrote: h that's 1 of the things I've been putting to the test with my H6. That whole the human ear can't hear super HD 96 KHZ or
[all-audio] Olympus Ls-14
I’m very glad you mentioned the Olympus LS-14 actually. I tried to get hold of one last year but had to settle for the LS-P4 - no problem there -. One did come up on eBay just recently so I snapped it up. In a few days I will be able to see what the LS-14 offers and of course I’ll be using the excellent review Neal Ewers did on the machine as a reference. Pity about not being able to use rechargeable batteries with the LS-14 so I’ll use one of the Powerbanks I have instead. > On 10 Feb 2019, at 3:46 pm, Hamit Campos wrote: > > Ah well 48 KHZ 24 bits is the web standard anyways. I guess I'm just > coming from another perspective I heard on another of Scott's shows. > Where if you record in 96 let's say, when you resample you'll get a > better 48 24 recording. I've even used 44 thousand 100 16 bits CD audio > on mine just because the LS-14 can't play anything elase in mono. It has > to be CD quality for it to work in mono. Which I was confused by when I > got it. Because all the DMs I'd had before this even playeed 48 16 in > mono though they didn't record that. But oh well. I can't wait to hear > some F8N samples. > > On 2/9/2019 9:51 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote: >> I chose 96K 24-bit because not all functions of the Zoom F8N support higher >> bit rates, Auto Mix for example but nevertheless 96K is a damn good rate to >> be using with 24 bit. >> I can understand where the engineer is coming from in a lot of ways setting >> the sampling rate at 48KHZ. >> Whilst I prefer higher myself a lot of computers would probably have trouble >> handling any more than 48K depending on the software and Sound Card being >> used so that would be one factor to take into consideration. >> With the Mac which I use most of the time this isn’t a problem. >> The other point being here is that you’re making live recordings and you >> probably won’t be wanting to master them. >> So back to the recorder itself. >> I’ve been going through the menu options as I’ve been telling the list over >> the last month or so. >> The first 2 options in the memory are “Finder” and “Medadata For Next Take”. >> The Finder allows you to search for content within folders on the SD card or >> cards if you have more than one installed. >> I’ve not examined this option but will do in the future when I work out how >> to connect a Keyboard to the F8N though even then without speech there seems >> little point. >> On the other hand Enter Metadata for Next Take may be slightly useable with >> a keyboard. No, I won’t get any feedback however I should be able to >> remember the order in which the metadata is presented thus I can move >> through the fields etc. >> The manual for the F8N gives specific keyboard commands to do just that. >> The next 2 options in the menu system are Input and Output respectively and >> I’ll be working on those next week. >> >> >>> On 10 Feb 2019, at 7:48 am, Hamit Campos wrote: >>> >>> Ah yes I forgot that. Yes the higher the quality, the more memory you'll >>> need. Especially if you're also planning to go multi channal. >>> On 2/9/2019 3:28 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote: >>> I can’t argue with the statements below. I actually have my F8N and other recorders set to 96K 24-bit but in the end its up to the individual how they want things done. One has to remember too that with higher bit rates then the bigger SD memory card you’ll require. So what given the Zoom F8N can take 2 512GB memory cards? Well the so what comes to quite a bit of money to lay out if you wish to proceed down that path. > On 10 Feb 2019, at 6:31 am, Hamit Campos wrote: > > h that's 1 of the things I've been putting to the test with my H6. That > whole the human ear can't hear super HD 96 KHZ or 192 KHZ 24 bits audio > thing. Now if you think of it as a frequency responce thing that should > be true. Hell not only can't you hear it, most condencers can't. But it's > not necessarily a frequency thing. Another ingenier on Scott Wilkinson's > Home Theater Geeks show explained it this way. Andy you were right. It's > a resolution thig. It's like being able to take 192 pictures per second. > He compaired it to the rappid fire camera shutter clicking you hear at > presidentual things or what not. The 24 bits gives you more open dinamic > range. Things don't over load and destort as easy I suppose and you can > get louder and quieter in 24 bits. Again someone help out here if you > wish I'm no real audio expert like Neal or this man that helped you out > Andy. But I'm just telling ya what I have heard other experts say. I say > again if I had an F8N best believe it bro 192 KHZ 24 bits is the first > thing that gets set on it. Oh and on your clip on mics. If they use the > little head phone like plug they won't use phantum. They use what's > called plug in power. So you'll need the Zoom XYH6 peace or
