Re: [all-audio] Need to record screen reader output; is Virtual Audio Cable the best way to do it?

[Dane Trethowan]

You never know what you get until you find out!
The system sounds can easily be disabled for the duration of the recording and 
then enabled again from Sounds in Windows Control Panel.


> On 25 Oct 2018, at 7:59 am, Aidan  wrote:
> 
> Yes, and the problem is that when you use stereo mix, then on some
> carts it don't alouw for external like a mike to be recorded at the
> same time as internal sounds, even if its suppose to work like that,
> and some others does alouw for that. So you never no what you get
> since we moved from xp where that methord was comminly used. That is
> why total recorder or SoundTap or vurtual recorder is a better way.
> 
> On 24/10/2018, Aman Singer  wrote:
>> Hi,
>> 
>>  My experience with stereo mix/what you hear has been hit and miss. Some
>> drivers have it, some don't, and I have read of companies removing it on
>> later drivers on the ground that people might use it to record
>> copy-protected content. It's worth checking and worth, also, making sure
>> that "show disabled devices" and "show disconnected" devices, two options
>> which can usually be accessed by right-clicking in the recording devices
>> dialog, are checked. This can show stereo mix when it normally isn't shown.
>> I think it's always preferable to use what is built-in to the driver rather
>> than things like Virtual Audio Cable or an actual physical cable. If you're
>> transferring speech, though, even the DAC conversions in using a physical
>> cable really aren't a big deal.
>> HTH,
>> Aman
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: all-audio@groups.io [mailto:all-audio@groups.io] On Behalf Of Dane
>> Trethowan
>> Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2018 3:43 AM
>> To: all-audio@groups.io
>> Subject: Re: [all-audio] Need to record screen reader output; is Virtual
>> Audio Cable the best way to do it?
>> 
>> Okay my 2 cents worth again.
>> I’ve never seen a Windows PC without the Stereo Mix or What you hear option
>> so I’m actually wondering whether this option is more a Windows option
>> rather than a Sound Card Specific one?
>> I’ll go around all my PC’s later - will take some time as I have a few
>>  - and see if stereo mix or what you hear comes up in all of them but
>> certainly, if this option is available then it would make perfect sense to
>> make full use of it regardless of what you choose to use as your recorder,
>> Total Recorder being my preference but if you like Gold Wave - which I love
>> here too - then by all means use it to capture from what you hear or the
>> stereo mix.
>> 
>> 
>>> On 22 Oct 2018, at 4:46 am, Aidan  wrote:
>>> 
>>> That program is not always working as expected on all systems, and no
>>> developing anymore is possible for now, its a chance you take on that
>>> one, but yes a very handy small utility.
>>> I found that with Goldwave you can record internal sounds well, but as
>>> soon as you want to add a microphone to the mix sometimes you might
>>> have problems. So I use total recorder, but what I do is to instal the
>>> digital mixer wich is free, then its possible to record internal and
>>> external sounds together.
>>> But yes vurtual recorder is simpler. Only problem with it is when
>>> stopt the recording is finish and you cannot add on to it.
>>> 
>>> On 21/10/2018, tim cumings  wrote:
 Dean, I assume your sound card doesn't have a "what you hear" option,
 sometimes called "stereo mix." I think virtual audio cable is much
 too complicated. I would recommend virtual recorder, which is a free
 windows recording program which can record the input and output of
 your sound card at the same time.
 
 
 
 On 10/18/2018 3:22 PM, Dean Martineau wrote:
> I'm running win 10, V. 1809.  I want to record my screen reader and
> microphone together into Goldwave.  I have a RealTech sound card.
> 
> 
> 
> I'm trying to figure out Virtual Audio Cable without much success.
> I think I need more handholding.  I've tried to follow instructions
> for an older version of the product; now we're on version
> 4.something.  Is VAC the best way to allow me to do screen reader
> demos?
> 
> 
> 
> All guidance appreciated.
> 
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> Thought-provoking reading: http://bahaiteachings.org
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Re: [all-audio] Need to record screen reader output; is Virtual Audio Cable the best way to do it?

[Aidan]

Yes, and the problem is that when you use stereo mix, then on some
carts it don't alouw for external like a mike to be recorded at the
same time as internal sounds, even if its suppose to work like that,
and some others does alouw for that. So you never no what you get
since we moved from xp where that methord was comminly used. That is
why total recorder or SoundTap or vurtual recorder is a better way.

On 24/10/2018, Aman Singer  wrote:
> Hi,
>
>   My experience with stereo mix/what you hear has been hit and miss. Some
> drivers have it, some don't, and I have read of companies removing it on
> later drivers on the ground that people might use it to record
> copy-protected content. It's worth checking and worth, also, making sure
> that "show disabled devices" and "show disconnected" devices, two options
> which can usually be accessed by right-clicking in the recording devices
> dialog, are checked. This can show stereo mix when it normally isn't shown.
> I think it's always preferable to use what is built-in to the driver rather
> than things like Virtual Audio Cable or an actual physical cable. If you're
> transferring speech, though, even the DAC conversions in using a physical
> cable really aren't a big deal.
> HTH,
> Aman
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: all-audio@groups.io [mailto:all-audio@groups.io] On Behalf Of Dane
> Trethowan
> Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2018 3:43 AM
> To: all-audio@groups.io
> Subject: Re: [all-audio] Need to record screen reader output; is Virtual
> Audio Cable the best way to do it?
>
> Okay my 2 cents worth again.
> I’ve never seen a Windows PC without the Stereo Mix or What you hear option
> so I’m actually wondering whether this option is more a Windows option
> rather than a Sound Card Specific one?
> I’ll go around all my PC’s later - will take some time as I have a few
>  - and see if stereo mix or what you hear comes up in all of them but
> certainly, if this option is available then it would make perfect sense to
> make full use of it regardless of what you choose to use as your recorder,
> Total Recorder being my preference but if you like Gold Wave - which I love
> here too - then by all means use it to capture from what you hear or the
> stereo mix.
>
>
>> On 22 Oct 2018, at 4:46 am, Aidan  wrote:
>>
>> That program is not always working as expected on all systems, and no
>> developing anymore is possible for now, its a chance you take on that
>> one, but yes a very handy small utility.
>> I found that with Goldwave you can record internal sounds well, but as
>> soon as you want to add a microphone to the mix sometimes you might
>> have problems. So I use total recorder, but what I do is to instal the
>> digital mixer wich is free, then its possible to record internal and
>> external sounds together.
>> But yes vurtual recorder is simpler. Only problem with it is when
>> stopt the recording is finish and you cannot add on to it.
>>
>> On 21/10/2018, tim cumings  wrote:
>>> Dean, I assume your sound card doesn't have a "what you hear" option,
>>> sometimes called "stereo mix." I think virtual audio cable is much
>>> too complicated. I would recommend virtual recorder, which is a free
>>> windows recording program which can record the input and output of
>>> your sound card at the same time.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 10/18/2018 3:22 PM, Dean Martineau wrote:
 I'm running win 10, V. 1809.  I want to record my screen reader and
 microphone together into Goldwave.  I have a RealTech sound card.



 I'm trying to figure out Virtual Audio Cable without much success.
 I think I need more handholding.  I've tried to follow instructions
 for an older version of the product; now we're on version
 4.something.  Is VAC the best way to allow me to do screen reader
 demos?



 All guidance appreciated.



 Thought-provoking reading: http://bahaiteachings.org
 







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Re: [all-audio] Need to record screen reader output; is Virtual Audio Cable the best way to do it?

[Aman Singer]

Hi,

My experience with stereo mix/what you hear has been hit and miss. Some 
drivers have it, some don't, and I have read of companies removing it on later 
drivers on the ground that people might use it to record copy-protected 
content. It's worth checking and worth, also, making sure that "show disabled 
devices" and "show disconnected" devices, two options which can usually be 
accessed by right-clicking in the recording devices dialog, are checked. This 
can show stereo mix when it normally isn't shown. I think it's always 
preferable to use what is built-in to the driver rather than things like 
Virtual Audio Cable or an actual physical cable. If you're transferring speech, 
though, even the DAC conversions in using a physical cable really aren't a big 
deal.
HTH,
Aman


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From: all-audio@groups.io [mailto:all-audio@groups.io] On Behalf Of Dane 
Trethowan
Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2018 3:43 AM
To: all-audio@groups.io
Subject: Re: [all-audio] Need to record screen reader output; is Virtual Audio 
Cable the best way to do it?

Okay my 2 cents worth again.
I’ve never seen a Windows PC without the Stereo Mix or What you hear option so 
I’m actually wondering whether this option is more a Windows option rather than 
a Sound Card Specific one?
I’ll go around all my PC’s later - will take some time as I have a few  
- and see if stereo mix or what you hear comes up in all of them but certainly, 
if this option is available then it would make perfect sense to make full use 
of it regardless of what you choose to use as your recorder, Total Recorder 
being my preference but if you like Gold Wave - which I love here too - then by 
all means use it to capture from what you hear or the stereo mix.


> On 22 Oct 2018, at 4:46 am, Aidan  wrote:
> 
> That program is not always working as expected on all systems, and no 
> developing anymore is possible for now, its a chance you take on that 
> one, but yes a very handy small utility.
> I found that with Goldwave you can record internal sounds well, but as 
> soon as you want to add a microphone to the mix sometimes you might 
> have problems. So I use total recorder, but what I do is to instal the 
> digital mixer wich is free, then its possible to record internal and 
> external sounds together.
> But yes vurtual recorder is simpler. Only problem with it is when 
> stopt the recording is finish and you cannot add on to it.
> 
> On 21/10/2018, tim cumings  wrote:
>> Dean, I assume your sound card doesn't have a "what you hear" option, 
>> sometimes called "stereo mix." I think virtual audio cable is much 
>> too complicated. I would recommend virtual recorder, which is a free 
>> windows recording program which can record the input and output of 
>> your sound card at the same time.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On 10/18/2018 3:22 PM, Dean Martineau wrote:
>>> I'm running win 10, V. 1809.  I want to record my screen reader and 
>>> microphone together into Goldwave.  I have a RealTech sound card.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I'm trying to figure out Virtual Audio Cable without much success.
>>> I think I need more handholding.  I've tried to follow instructions 
>>> for an older version of the product; now we're on version 
>>> 4.something.  Is VAC the best way to allow me to do screen reader 
>>> demos?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> All guidance appreciated.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Thought-provoking reading: http://bahaiteachings.org 
>>> 
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Re: [all-audio] Need to record screen reader output; is Virtual Audio Cable the best way to do it?

[Dane Trethowan]

Okay my 2 cents worth again.
I’ve never seen a Windows PC without the Stereo Mix or What you hear option so 
I’m actually wondering whether this option is more a Windows option rather than 
a Sound Card Specific one?
I’ll go around all my PC’s later - will take some time as I have a few  
- and see if stereo mix or what you hear comes up in all of them but certainly, 
if this option is available then it would make perfect sense to make full use 
of it regardless of what you choose to use as your recorder, Total Recorder 
being my preference but if you like Gold Wave - which I love here too - then by 
all means use it to capture from what you hear or the stereo mix.


> On 22 Oct 2018, at 4:46 am, Aidan  wrote:
> 
> That program is not always working as expected on all systems, and no
> developing anymore is possible for now, its a chance you take on that
> one, but yes a very handy small utility.
> I found that with Goldwave you can record internal sounds well, but as
> soon as you want to add a microphone to the mix sometimes you might
> have problems. So I use total recorder, but what I do is to instal the
> digital mixer wich is free, then its possible to record internal and
> external sounds together.
> But yes vurtual recorder is simpler. Only problem with it is when
> stopt the recording is finish and you cannot add on to it.
> 
> On 21/10/2018, tim cumings  wrote:
>> Dean, I assume your sound card doesn't have a "what you hear" option,
>> sometimes called "stereo mix." I think virtual audio cable is much too
>> complicated. I would recommend virtual recorder, which is a free windows
>> recording program which can record the input and output of your sound
>> card at the same time.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On 10/18/2018 3:22 PM, Dean Martineau wrote:
>>> I'm running win 10, V. 1809.  I want to record my screen reader and
>>> microphone together into Goldwave.  I have a RealTech sound card.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I'm trying to figure out Virtual Audio Cable without much success.  I
>>> think
>>> I need more handholding.  I've tried to follow instructions for an older
>>> version of the product; now we're on version 4.something.  Is VAC the
>>> best
>>> way to allow me to do screen reader demos?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> All guidance appreciated.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Thought-provoking reading: http://bahaiteachings.org
>>> 
>>> 
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Re: [all-audio] Need to record screen reader output; is Virtual Audio Cable the best way to do it?

[Aidan]

That program is not always working as expected on all systems, and no
developing anymore is possible for now, its a chance you take on that
one, but yes a very handy small utility.
I found that with Goldwave you can record internal sounds well, but as
soon as you want to add a microphone to the mix sometimes you might
have problems. So I use total recorder, but what I do is to instal the
digital mixer wich is free, then its possible to record internal and
external sounds together.
But yes vurtual recorder is simpler. Only problem with it is when
stopt the recording is finish and you cannot add on to it.

On 21/10/2018, tim cumings  wrote:
> Dean, I assume your sound card doesn't have a "what you hear" option,
> sometimes called "stereo mix." I think virtual audio cable is much too
> complicated. I would recommend virtual recorder, which is a free windows
> recording program which can record the input and output of your sound
> card at the same time.
>
>
>
> On 10/18/2018 3:22 PM, Dean Martineau wrote:
>> I'm running win 10, V. 1809.  I want to record my screen reader and
>> microphone together into Goldwave.  I have a RealTech sound card.
>>
>>
>>
>> I'm trying to figure out Virtual Audio Cable without much success.  I
>> think
>> I need more handholding.  I've tried to follow instructions for an older
>> version of the product; now we're on version 4.something.  Is VAC the
>> best
>> way to allow me to do screen reader demos?
>>
>>
>>
>> All guidance appreciated.
>>
>>
>>
>> Thought-provoking reading: http://bahaiteachings.org
>> 
>>
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Re: [all-audio] Need to record screen reader output; is Virtual Audio Cable the best way to do it?

[tim cumings]

Dean, I assume your sound card doesn't have a "what you hear" option, 
sometimes called "stereo mix." I think virtual audio cable is much too 
complicated. I would recommend virtual recorder, which is a free windows 
recording program which can record the input and output of your sound 
card at the same time.




On 10/18/2018 3:22 PM, Dean Martineau wrote:

I'm running win 10, V. 1809.  I want to record my screen reader and
microphone together into Goldwave.  I have a RealTech sound card.

  


I'm trying to figure out Virtual Audio Cable without much success.  I think
I need more handholding.  I've tried to follow instructions for an older
version of the product; now we're on version 4.something.  Is VAC the best
way to allow me to do screen reader demos?

  


All guidance appreciated.

  


Thought-provoking reading: http://bahaiteachings.org


  









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Re: [all-audio] Need to record screen reader output; is Virtual Audio Cable the best way to do it?

[Dane Trethowan]

No reason why you couldn’t use Goldwave either for this.


> On 19 Oct 2018, at 6:22 am, Dean Martineau  wrote:
> 
> I'm running win 10, V. 1809.  I want to record my screen reader and
> microphone together into Goldwave.  I have a RealTech sound card.
> 
> 
> 
> I'm trying to figure out Virtual Audio Cable without much success.  I think
> I need more handholding.  I've tried to follow instructions for an older
> version of the product; now we're on version 4.something.  Is VAC the best
> way to allow me to do screen reader demos?
> 
> 
> 
> All guidance appreciated.
> 
> 
> 
> Thought-provoking reading: http://bahaiteachings.org
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Re: [all-audio] Need to record screen reader output; is Virtual Audio Cable the best way to do it?

[Dane Trethowan]

Been a while since i’ve used Total Recorder but I reckon that this App would 
most likely handle your job.
They way I see it all working is for you to set the source of Total Recorder to 
“What You Hear”.
Then set your microphone in such a way that you can hear that through your 
speakers though obviously in this instance you’d be best to use headphones to 
avoid any feedback.
So when Total Recorder is set to record “What you hear” will be recorded thus 
your Screen Reader, Microphone or anything else you care to add to the mix.


> On 19 Oct 2018, at 6:22 am, Dean Martineau  wrote:
> 
> I'm running win 10, V. 1809.  I want to record my screen reader and
> microphone together into Goldwave.  I have a RealTech sound card.
> 
> 
> 
> I'm trying to figure out Virtual Audio Cable without much success.  I think
> I need more handholding.  I've tried to follow instructions for an older
> version of the product; now we're on version 4.something.  Is VAC the best
> way to allow me to do screen reader demos?
> 
> 
> 
> All guidance appreciated.
> 
> 
> 
> Thought-provoking reading: http://bahaiteachings.org
>  
> 
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> 
> 
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> 

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[all-audio] Need to record screen reader output; is Virtual Audio Cable the best way to do it?

[Dean Martineau]

I'm running win 10, V. 1809.  I want to record my screen reader and
microphone together into Goldwave.  I have a RealTech sound card.  

 

I'm trying to figure out Virtual Audio Cable without much success.  I think
I need more handholding.  I've tried to follow instructions for an older
version of the product; now we're on version 4.something.  Is VAC the best
way to allow me to do screen reader demos?  

 

All guidance appreciated.

 

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