RE: [Alsa-devel] Pops at start of song

2003-11-24 Thread Mark Knecht
Ok, it's a thing that we would like to eliminate, but when I tried to figure what's going on in the past, I wasn't successful. The best thing to measure if ALSA sends a wrong sample sequence to the output is to use the digital I/O (S/PDIF or profi IEC958) for on playback side and capture the

RE: [Alsa-devel] Pops at start of song

2003-11-24 Thread Jaroslav Kysela
On Mon, 24 Nov 2003, Mark Knecht wrote: Ok, it's a thing that we would like to eliminate, but when I tried to figure what's going on in the past, I wasn't successful. The best thing to measure if ALSA sends a wrong sample sequence to the output is to use the digital I/O (S/PDIF or

RE: [Alsa-devel] Pops at start of song

2003-11-24 Thread Mark Knecht
Ok, can you force the master rate for HDSP? Yes, I can force the HDSP master rate to be 44.1KHz. I can then force the Pro Tools PC be a master also, at 44.1K, but there will be random clicks and pops since the two are not synced to each other. If I do this and record on the Pro Tools PC, I get

RE: [Alsa-devel] Pops at start of song

2003-11-24 Thread Mark Knecht
Then you can compare (maybe via some editor) if the whole .wav file is in the recorded stream (plus some zero samples at begging and end of this stream). Or, you can send me your source and recorded files and I'll compare them for you (only mark which file is master).

RE: [Alsa-devel] Pops at start of song

2003-11-24 Thread Mark Knecht
Thomas Jaroslav, Here's a graphical representation of the noise problem I'm having using the HDSP 9652. The attached png file shows the wave file I'm playing on the top line, and then two separate outputs from the HDSP 9652. The two separate Pro Tools captures were done at the same time and

RE: [Alsa-devel] Pops at start of song

2003-11-20 Thread Jaroslav Kysela
On Wed, 19 Nov 2003, Mark Knecht wrote: Steve, You're the first person I can remember to report something very similar to what I'm dealing with every day. I get a huge loud cracking noise at the start of any audio operation that is not vanilla Alsa - i.e. - anything accessing OSS I think.

Re: [Alsa-devel] Pops at start of song

2003-11-20 Thread Jaroslav Kysela
On Wed, 19 Nov 2003, Steve deRosier wrote: Mark, I don't know if it's the same effect or not. We're working on an embedded Linux device. It has a full Linux kernel and basically is a hand-built distribution of stock Linux stuff, but is very stripped down and some of our apps are

RE: [Alsa-devel] Pops at start of song

2003-11-20 Thread Mark Knecht
Jaroslav, I certainly want you to know that I have always sensed your commitment to solving these problems and making Alsa better. I also understand that it's terribly difficult for you to debug these things at a distance with a putz like me who isn't a developer, and apparently the only person

Re: [Alsa-devel] Pops at start of song

2003-11-20 Thread Martin Langer
Ok, it's a thing that we would like to eliminate, but when I tried to figure what's going on in the past, I wasn't successful. The best thing to measure if ALSA sends a wrong sample sequence to the output is to use the digital I/O (S/PDIF or profi IEC958) for on playback side and

[Alsa-devel] Pops at start of song

2003-11-19 Thread Steve deRosier
All, We're having a problem with some of our audio applications. When a song starts playing we will often hear a loud pop out of the speakers before it plays audio. It seems dependent upon where we stoped and the specfic content of the last song, if we hit our stop control and abort in the

RE: [Alsa-devel] Pops at start of song

2003-11-19 Thread Mark Knecht
] Subject: [Alsa-devel] Pops at start of song All, We're having a problem with some of our audio applications. When a song starts playing we will often hear a loud pop out of the speakers before it plays audio. It seems dependent upon where we stoped and the specfic content of the last song

Re: [Alsa-devel] Pops at start of song

2003-11-19 Thread Steve deRosier
-devel] Pops at start of song All, We're having a problem with some of our audio applications. When a song starts playing we will often hear a loud pop out of the speakers before it plays audio. It seems dependent upon where we stoped and the specfic content of the last song, if we hit our stop

Re: [Alsa-devel] Pops at start of song

2003-11-19 Thread Apostolos Dimitromanolakis
Hi, This is not a hardware issue. The problem is that the DAC of your card gets stopped in some other level than 0V and when you restart playback the voltage differential causes the pop (because the output of the digital to analog converter is AC-coupled). To perform a clean stop and start make

Re: [Alsa-devel] Pops at start of song

2003-11-19 Thread Steve deRosier
Hm, sounds like the very definition of a hardware issue to me. ;) When I said hardware issue I wasn't refering to a bug in the hardware or hardware drivers... more of a that's how it works and we're stuck with it. :) One of our other engineers has taken that exact approach. It just seems