Re: [Alsa-user] Output sample rate

2008-06-14 Thread Grant
I don't get sound from usb-audio, making sure the name matches. Could the .asoundrc syntax be wrong there? I doubt the following could be wrong: pcm.usb-audio { type hw card 0 } Unless usb-audio is not your device. I would tend to take mpd out of the

Re: [Alsa-user] Output sample rate

2008-06-13 Thread Grant
pcm.my_device Sorry, thought it would be understood that 'my_device' is the alsa alias (in my case the the name of the kernel module without the leading snd-) for the hardware device in question (see your modules.conf file or whatever is proper for your distro). In my case I have 2

Re: [Alsa-user] Output sample rate

2008-06-13 Thread Chris Smith
On Friday 13 June 2008, Grant wrote: I changed my config like so and restarted alsasound with the same results: .asoundrc: pcm.usb-audio {         type hw         card 0         } pcm.usb-audio_44 {         type plug         slave {                 pcm usb-audio                 rate

Re: [Alsa-user] Output sample rate

2008-06-13 Thread Grant
I changed my config like so and restarted alsasound with the same results: .asoundrc: pcm.usb-audio { type hw card 0 } pcm.usb-audio_44 { type plug slave { pcm usb-audio rate 44100 } }

Re: [Alsa-user] Output sample rate

2008-06-13 Thread Chris Smith
On Friday 13 June 2008, Grant wrote: I don't get sound from usb-audio, making sure the name matches.  Could the .asoundrc syntax be wrong there? I doubt the following could be wrong: pcm.usb-audio {         type hw         card 0         } Unless usb-audio is not your device. I would tend

Re: [Alsa-user] Output sample rate

2008-06-12 Thread Demian Martin
of the most obtuse syntax in Linux. Demian Martin Product Design Services -Original Message- From: Rene Herman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, June 11, 2008 10:29 PM To: Demian Martin Cc: alsa-user@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Alsa-user] Output sample rate On 12-06-08 07

Re: [Alsa-user] Output sample rate

2008-06-12 Thread Rene Herman
On 12-06-08 08:28, Demian Martin wrote: I don't think we are in disagreement in substance. I was trying to give a larger framework for all of those not as familiar with the general workings and decisions behind computer audio as currently implemented. Just works is very important to most

Re: [Alsa-user] Output sample rate

2008-06-12 Thread Grant
dmix *is* an application, conceptually it is not different to esd, artsd or pulseaudio opening the ALSA hardware directly. It just happens to be an ALSA plugin and is a part of the signal chain that ALSA-lib sets up by default. You can either: a) configure dmix using a custom .asoundrc to

Re: [Alsa-user] Output sample rate

2008-06-12 Thread Chris Smith
On Thursday 12 June 2008, Grant wrote: I'm trying to get music from mpd to my USB DAC in 100% untouched form. My mpd.conf is as follows: audio_output { type alsa name USB Monica device hw:0,0 format 44100:16:2 } Don't know anything about mpd but you can set up an asoundrc plug in alsa

Re: [Alsa-user] Output sample rate

2008-06-12 Thread Grant
I'm trying to get music from mpd to my USB DAC in 100% untouched form. My mpd.conf is as follows: audio_output { type alsa name USB Monica device hw:0,0 format 44100:16:2 } Don't know anything about mpd but you can set up an asoundrc plug in alsa that will fix the rate from alsa to the

Re: [Alsa-user] Output sample rate

2008-06-12 Thread Chris Smith
On Friday 13 June 2008, Grant wrote: pcm.my_device Sorry, thought it would be understood that 'my_device' is the alsa alias (in my case the the name of the kernel module without the leading snd-) for the hardware device in question (see your modules.conf file or whatever is proper for your

[Alsa-user] Output sample rate

2008-06-11 Thread Grant
Where is my output sample rate defined? I'm trying to make sure mpd isn't resampling my music before it's sent to the USB DAC. - Grant - Check out the new SourceForge.net Marketplace. It's the best place to buy or sell

Re: [Alsa-user] Output sample rate

2008-06-11 Thread stan
Grant wrote: Where is my output sample rate defined? I'm trying to make sure mpd isn't resampling my music before it's sent to the USB DAC. If you are playing audio that is in recognized format the rate is defined within the audio file itself and was set at time of creation. If you want

Re: [Alsa-user] Output sample rate

2008-06-11 Thread Sergei Steshenko
-Original Message- From: Grant [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: alsa-user@lists.sourceforge.net Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 15:35:42 -0700 Subject: [Alsa-user] Output sample rate Where is my output sample rate defined? I'm trying to make sure mpd isn't resampling my music before it's sent

Re: [Alsa-user] Output sample rate

2008-06-11 Thread Rene Herman
On 12-06-08 00:35, Grant wrote: Where is my output sample rate defined? I'm trying to make sure mpd isn't resampling my music before it's sent to the USB DAC. Check /proc/asound/card0/pcm0p/sub0/hw_params while mpd is playing (for a suitable value of (0,0,0) ofcourse). Rene.

Re: [Alsa-user] Output sample rate

2008-06-11 Thread Rene Herman
On 12-06-08 02:17, Sergei Steshenko wrote: From: Grant [EMAIL PROTECTED] Where is my output sample rate defined? I'm trying to make sure mpd isn't resampling my music before it's sent to the USB DAC. I initiated a similar thread recently. The short answer - nowhere. As I was

Re: [Alsa-user] Output sample rate

2008-06-11 Thread Sergei Steshenko
-Original Message- From: Rene Herman [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Sergei Steshenko [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2008 04:12:58 +0200 Subject: Re: [Alsa-user] Output sample rate The sampling rate is a property inherent to the data. Rene. ??? Are trying to tell me that sample rate

Re: [Alsa-user] Output sample rate

2008-06-11 Thread Rene Herman
On 12-06-08 05:52, Sergei Steshenko wrote: From: Rene Herman [EMAIL PROTECTED] The sampling rate is a property inherent to the data. Are trying to tell me that sample rate is inherent to analog source connected to microphone or line input ? Oh, not again... please get a clue. DATA. Rene.

Re: [Alsa-user] Output sample rate

2008-06-11 Thread Sergei Steshenko
-Original Message- From: Rene Herman [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Sergei Steshenko [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2008 05:55:40 +0200 Subject: Re: [Alsa-user] Output sample rate On 12-06-08 05:52, Sergei Steshenko wrote: From: Rene Herman [EMAIL PROTECTED] The sampling rate

Re: [Alsa-user] Output sample rate

2008-06-11 Thread Rene Herman
On 12-06-08 06:30, Sergei Steshenko wrote: Yes again - to me ALSA's sample rate implementation looks quite illogical - IMO it should be the other way round - user first mandates sample rate, and then playback sources adapt through resampling if necessary. Great setup once we have infinitely

Re: [Alsa-user] Output sample rate

2008-06-11 Thread Pete Black
Its very simple. Most sound devices support a number of sample rates. Common ones include 16 bit @ 44.1khz, 16-bit @ 48khz, 24-bit @ 96 khz etc. Only one application has exclusive control over the sound hardware at any time. Whatever rate that application opens the soundcard at, is the rate

Re: [Alsa-user] Output sample rate

2008-06-11 Thread Rene Herman
On 12-06-08 06:53, Pete Black wrote: Its very simple. Most sound devices support a number of sample rates. Common ones include 16 bit @ 44.1khz, 16-bit @ 48khz, 24-bit @ 96 khz etc. Only one application has exclusive control over the sound hardware at any time. Whatever rate that

Re: [Alsa-user] Output sample rate

2008-06-11 Thread Demian Martin
Computer audio and sample rate issues are popping up everywhere, driven by the desire for high quality audio on PC's finally. On Windows and Mac's its even harder to get it right. In Alsa (and PC audio architecture in general) the system has a default sample rate, usually set by the driver it

Re: [Alsa-user] Output sample rate

2008-06-11 Thread Pete Black
dmix *is* an application, conceptually it is not different to esd, artsd or pulseaudio opening the ALSA hardware directly. It just happens to be an ALSA plugin and is a part of the signal chain that ALSA-lib sets up by default. You can either: a) configure dmix using a custom .asoundrc to

Re: [Alsa-user] Output sample rate

2008-06-11 Thread Rene Herman
On 12-06-08 07:13, Demian Martin wrote: Computer audio and sample rate issues are popping up everywhere, driven by the desire for high quality audio on PC's finally. On Windows and Mac's its even harder to get it right. In Alsa (and PC audio architecture in general) the system has a

Re: [Alsa-user] Output sample rate

2008-06-11 Thread Rene Herman
On 12-06-08 07:17, Pete Black wrote: dmix *is* an application, conceptually it is not different [ ... ] Let's call it a conceptlication then. As said, your basic description was correct. Rene. - Check out the new