Re: [Alsa-user] SPDIF woes/ ca0106.ko does not load
At Tue, 09 Sep 2008 22:53:50 +0200, Ruediger Dohmhardt wrote: Vedran Miletić schrieb: Why don't you just pull the entire Takashi's tree with git and compile it? That would probably require the least effort, because you won't need to do any patching at all. Ok! I did it. *The good news*: Building sound-unstable-2.6.git with kernel 2.6.26.3 made the VT1708B chip on my ASUS-M3N78-VM flawlessly working (at least I don't hear distortion). Good to hear. Yes, some fixes have been added for VIA stuff pretty recently. The alsa parts in (1) the kernel SUSE 11.0 ( 2.6.25.11-0.1-default) (2) the latest stable version 2.6.26.3 as well as (3) the alsa-driver-1.0.18rc1 made a lot of distortion. You could stand it for a while listening to 48kHz (DVB and DVD), but it was terrible with 44,1kHz (Wav files and CD). The distortion with the VT1708B was actually the reason buying the Creative X-Fi Xtreme Audio PCIe card. *The bad news:* The PCIe card does not work. The driver snd_hda_intel loads fine, but when running aplay -Dhw:0,1 /usr/share/sounds/alsa/test.wav -Playing WAVE '/usr/share/sounds/alsa/test.wav' : Signed 16 bit Little Endian, Rate 44100 Hz, Stereo the output 10s later is: -aplay: pcm_write:1394: write error: Eingabe-/Ausgabefehler (Translation: Input-/Output Error) According to /proc/interrupts, there are approx. 10 interrupts while playing test.wav. But there is no sound at the front speaker-output. I haven't tested the optical SPDIF output yet, but will do so the next week. No log in /var/log/messages. Prior to doing the tests and creating the logs I disabled the VT1708B in the BIOS. Therefore it is not listed below. /Output of aplay -L / aplay -L default:CARD=Intel HDA Intel, CA0110 Analog Default Audio Device front:CARD=Intel,DEV=0 HDA Intel, CA0110 Analog Front speakers surround40:CARD=Intel,DEV=0 HDA Intel, CA0110 Analog 4.0 Surround output to Front and Rear speakers surround41:CARD=Intel,DEV=0 HDA Intel, CA0110 Analog 4.1 Surround output to Front, Rear and Subwoofer speakers surround50:CARD=Intel,DEV=0 HDA Intel, CA0110 Analog 5.0 Surround output to Front, Center and Rear speakers surround51:CARD=Intel,DEV=0 HDA Intel, CA0110 Analog 5.1 Surround output to Front, Center, Rear and Subwoofer speakers surround71:CARD=Intel,DEV=0 HDA Intel, CA0110 Analog 7.1 Surround output to Front, Center, Side, Rear and Woofer speakers iec958:CARD=Intel,DEV=0 HDA Intel, CA0110 Digital IEC958 (S/PDIF) Digital Audio Output hdmi:CARD=Intel,DEV=0 HDA Intel HDMI Audio Output null Discard all samples (playback) or generate zero samples (capture) /hwinfo --sound***/ hwinfo --sound 10: PCI 500.0: 0403 Audio device [Created at pci.310] UDI: /org/freedesktop/Hal/devices/pci_1102_9 Unique ID: Ddhb.YhraNp3EzIA Parent ID: YmUS.Ty6MHw35u4D SysFS ID: /devices/pci:00/:00:12.0/:04:00.0/:05:00.0 SysFS BusID: :05:00.0 Hardware Class: sound Model: Creative [SB X-Fi Xtreme Audio] CA0110-IBG Vendor: pci 0x1102 Creative Labs Device: pci 0x0009 [SB X-Fi Xtreme Audio] CA0110-IBG SubVendor: pci 0x1102 Creative Labs SubDevice: pci 0x0018 Driver: HDA Intel Driver Modules: snd_hda_intel Memory Range: 0xfebfc000-0xfebf (rw,non-prefetchable) IRQ: 18 (1144 events) Module Alias: pci:v1102d0009sv1102sd0018bc04sc03i00 Driver Info #0: Driver Status: snd_hda_intel is active Driver Activation Cmd: modprobe snd_hda_intel Config Status: cfg=no, avail=yes, need=no, active=unknown Attached to: #11 (PCI bridge) /*** Installation of sound-unstable-2.6.git ***/ cd linux-2.6.25.10 mv sound sound.org /* hide original sound directory */ git clone git://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/tiwai/sound-unstable-2.6.git ln -s sound-unstable-2.6.git sound cd include/ mv sound/ sound.org/* rescue linux-2.6.26.3/include/sound */ ln -s ../sound-unstable-2.6/include/sound/ cd .. make xconfig make /* and it compiles fine */ I appreciate any hints Thanks for checking. It's a bit hard right now for me debugging this since I've been (and will be) in a series of conferences. Will check after returning. One thing you can try is to add a delay in the codec communication code. Try the patch below, for example. thanks, Takashi diff --git a/sound/pci/hda/patch_ca0110.c b/sound/pci/hda/patch_ca0110.c index adc8387..4e0c1f4 100644 --- a/sound/pci/hda/patch_ca0110.c +++ b/sound/pci/hda/patch_ca0110.c @@ -502,6 +502,8 @@ int patch_ca0110(struct hda_codec *codec)
Re: [Alsa-user] SPDIF woes/ ca0106.ko does not load
Vedran Miletić schrieb: Why don't you just pull the entire Takashi's tree with git and compile it? That would probably require the least effort, because you won't need to do any patching at all. Ok! I did it. *The good news*: Building sound-unstable-2.6.git with kernel 2.6.26.3 made the VT1708B chip on my ASUS-M3N78-VM flawlessly working (at least I don't hear distortion). The alsa parts in (1) the kernel SUSE 11.0 ( 2.6.25.11-0.1-default) (2) the latest stable version 2.6.26.3 as well as (3) the alsa-driver-1.0.18rc1 made a lot of distortion. You could stand it for a while listening to 48kHz (DVB and DVD), but it was terrible with 44,1kHz (Wav files and CD). The distortion with the VT1708B was actually the reason buying the Creative X-Fi Xtreme Audio PCIe card. *The bad news:* The PCIe card does not work. The driver snd_hda_intel loads fine, but when running aplay -Dhw:0,1 /usr/share/sounds/alsa/test.wav -Playing WAVE '/usr/share/sounds/alsa/test.wav' : Signed 16 bit Little Endian, Rate 44100 Hz, Stereo the output 10s later is: -aplay: pcm_write:1394: write error: Eingabe-/Ausgabefehler (Translation: Input-/Output Error) According to /proc/interrupts, there are approx. 10 interrupts while playing test.wav. But there is no sound at the front speaker-output. I haven't tested the optical SPDIF output yet, but will do so the next week. No log in /var/log/messages. Prior to doing the tests and creating the logs I disabled the VT1708B in the BIOS. Therefore it is not listed below. /Output of aplay -L / aplay -L default:CARD=Intel HDA Intel, CA0110 Analog Default Audio Device front:CARD=Intel,DEV=0 HDA Intel, CA0110 Analog Front speakers surround40:CARD=Intel,DEV=0 HDA Intel, CA0110 Analog 4.0 Surround output to Front and Rear speakers surround41:CARD=Intel,DEV=0 HDA Intel, CA0110 Analog 4.1 Surround output to Front, Rear and Subwoofer speakers surround50:CARD=Intel,DEV=0 HDA Intel, CA0110 Analog 5.0 Surround output to Front, Center and Rear speakers surround51:CARD=Intel,DEV=0 HDA Intel, CA0110 Analog 5.1 Surround output to Front, Center, Rear and Subwoofer speakers surround71:CARD=Intel,DEV=0 HDA Intel, CA0110 Analog 7.1 Surround output to Front, Center, Side, Rear and Woofer speakers iec958:CARD=Intel,DEV=0 HDA Intel, CA0110 Digital IEC958 (S/PDIF) Digital Audio Output hdmi:CARD=Intel,DEV=0 HDA Intel HDMI Audio Output null Discard all samples (playback) or generate zero samples (capture) /hwinfo --sound***/ hwinfo --sound 10: PCI 500.0: 0403 Audio device [Created at pci.310] UDI: /org/freedesktop/Hal/devices/pci_1102_9 Unique ID: Ddhb.YhraNp3EzIA Parent ID: YmUS.Ty6MHw35u4D SysFS ID: /devices/pci:00/:00:12.0/:04:00.0/:05:00.0 SysFS BusID: :05:00.0 Hardware Class: sound Model: Creative [SB X-Fi Xtreme Audio] CA0110-IBG Vendor: pci 0x1102 Creative Labs Device: pci 0x0009 [SB X-Fi Xtreme Audio] CA0110-IBG SubVendor: pci 0x1102 Creative Labs SubDevice: pci 0x0018 Driver: HDA Intel Driver Modules: snd_hda_intel Memory Range: 0xfebfc000-0xfebf (rw,non-prefetchable) IRQ: 18 (1144 events) Module Alias: pci:v1102d0009sv1102sd0018bc04sc03i00 Driver Info #0: Driver Status: snd_hda_intel is active Driver Activation Cmd: modprobe snd_hda_intel Config Status: cfg=no, avail=yes, need=no, active=unknown Attached to: #11 (PCI bridge) /*** Installation of sound-unstable-2.6.git ***/ cd linux-2.6.25.10 mv sound sound.org /* hide original sound directory */ git clone git://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/tiwai/sound-unstable-2.6.git ln -s sound-unstable-2.6.git sound cd include/ mv sound/ sound.org/* rescue linux-2.6.26.3/include/sound */ ln -s ../sound-unstable-2.6/include/sound/ cd .. make xconfig make /* and it compiles fine */ I appreciate any hints Ciao Ruediger - This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK win great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100url=/ ___ Alsa-user mailing list Alsa-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/alsa-user
Re: [Alsa-user] SPDIF woes/ ca0106.ko does not load
Sorry! In my last e-mail there was a mistake in the installation description of sound-unstable-2.6.git and the formatting was terrible. /*** Installation of sound-unstable-2.6.git ***/ cd linux-2.6.26.3 mv sound sound.org /* hide original sound directory */ git clone git://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/tiwai/sound-unstable-2.6.git ln -s sound-unstable-2.6.git sound cd include/ mv sound/ sound.org /* rescue linux-2.6.26.3/include/sound */ ln -s ../sound-unstable-2.6/include/sound/ cd .. make xconfig/* Configure PCI-sound devices */ make/* and it compiles fine*/ #make install /* followed by reboot */ - This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK win great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100url=/ ___ Alsa-user mailing list Alsa-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/alsa-user
Re: [Alsa-user] SPDIF woes/ ca0106.ko does not load
Why don't you just pull the entire Takashi's tree with git and compile it? That would probably require the least effort, because you won't need to do any patching at all. 2008/9/8 Ruediger Dohmhardt [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Vedran Miletić schrieb: It should work with hda-intel of Takashi's sound-unstable-2.6 tree (it has the patch_ca0110.c file there). Have you tried compiling that? Thank you for the reply. I got the file patch_ca0110.c. I tried to add it to alsa-driver-1.0.18rc1. However, it requires too much effort i.e. modifications of Make- and Configfiles. So, up to now I didn't manage to get patch_ca0110.c compiled. Thanks Ruediger D. -- Vedran Miletić - This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK win great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100url=/ ___ Alsa-user mailing list Alsa-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/alsa-user
Re: [Alsa-user] SPDIF woes/ ca0106.ko does not load
Vedran Miletić schrieb:
There is another option, cheaper than Xonar DX. Creative has relaeased
PCI Express version of Xtreme Audio, which isn't based on X-Fi chip
but on CA0110. There is some support in Takashi's sound-unstable tree.
I'm not sure how well it works (let alone in regard to SPDIF support),
hopefully Takashi will be able to answer that part.
Dear Takashi,
I bought the PCIe Xtreme Audio simply for the reason I had no PCI Slot
left anymore.
Unfortunately I can't make it work. Some people claim they got it
running, but do not mention the used module.
You suggest in
http://mailman.alsa-project.org/pipermail/alsa-devel/2008-March/006644.html
to use hda-intel.ko, whereas the Creative card is mentioned ca0106_main.c.
I build different alsa-driver versions with
./configure --with-sequencer=yes --with-oss=yes
--with-cards=ca0106,emu10k1,hda-intel
Then I did some modifications to ca0106_main.c. To the structure
snd_ca0106_ids[] I added the line
{ 0x1102, 0x0009, PCI_ANY_ID, PCI_ANY_ID, 0, 0, 0 },/*
x-fi */
But when I do modprobe ca0106 I get
tail -f /var/log/messages
kernel: ACPI: PCI Interrupt :05:00.0[A] - Link [LN2A] - GSI 18
(level, low) - IRQ 18
kernel: ACPI: PCI interrupt for device :05:00.0 disabled
kernel: cannot allocate the port
kernel: CA0106: probe of :05:00.0 failed with error -16
So, the kernel does not load the driver, because, I guess, I do
something that is not supposed to work.
Please, could you, or James, give me some hints how to proceed here.
Or shall I use hda-intel.ko? Which parameters?
Below is the output of hwinfo --sound
10: PCI 500.0: 0403 Audio device
[Created at pci.310]
UDI: /org/freedesktop/Hal/devices/pci_1102_9
Unique ID: Ddhb.YhraNp3EzIA
Parent ID: YmUS.Ty6MHw35u4D
SysFS ID: /devices/pci:00/:00:12.0/:04:00.0/:05:00.0
SysFS BusID: :05:00.0
Hardware Class: sound
Model: Creative [SB X-Fi Xtreme Audio] CA0110-IBG
Vendor: pci 0x1102 Creative Labs
Device: pci 0x0009 [SB X-Fi Xtreme Audio] CA0110-IBG
SubVendor: pci 0x1102 Creative Labs
SubDevice: pci 0x0018
Memory Range: 0xfebfc000-0xfebf (rw,non-prefetchable)
IRQ: 11 (no events)
Module Alias: pci:v1102d0009sv1102sd0018bc04sc03i00
Config Status: cfg=no, avail=yes, need=no, active=unknown
Attached to: #11 (PCI bridge)
Ciao Ruediger D
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Re: [Alsa-user] SPDIF woes/ ca0106.ko does not load
It should work with hda-intel of Takashi's sound-unstable-2.6 tree (it
has the patch_ca0110.c file there). Have you tried compiling that?
2008/9/7 Ruediger Dohmhardt [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Vedran Miletić schrieb:
There is another option, cheaper than Xonar DX. Creative has relaeased
PCI Express version of Xtreme Audio, which isn't based on X-Fi chip
but on CA0110. There is some support in Takashi's sound-unstable tree.
I'm not sure how well it works (let alone in regard to SPDIF support),
hopefully Takashi will be able to answer that part.
Dear Takashi,
I bought the PCIe Xtreme Audio simply for the reason I had no PCI Slot left
anymore.
Unfortunately I can't make it work. Some people claim they got it running,
but do not mention the used module.
You suggest in
http://mailman.alsa-project.org/pipermail/alsa-devel/2008-March/006644.html
to use hda-intel.ko, whereas the Creative card is mentioned ca0106_main.c.
I build different alsa-driver versions with
./configure --with-sequencer=yes --with-oss=yes
--with-cards=ca0106,emu10k1,hda-intel
Then I did some modifications to ca0106_main.c. To the structure
snd_ca0106_ids[] I added the line
{ 0x1102, 0x0009, PCI_ANY_ID, PCI_ANY_ID, 0, 0, 0 },/* x-fi
*/
But when I do modprobe ca0106 I get
tail -f /var/log/messages
kernel: ACPI: PCI Interrupt :05:00.0[A] - Link [LN2A] - GSI 18
(level, low) - IRQ 18
kernel: ACPI: PCI interrupt for device :05:00.0 disabled
kernel: cannot allocate the port
kernel: CA0106: probe of :05:00.0 failed with error -16
So, the kernel does not load the driver, because, I guess, I do something
that is not supposed to work.
Please, could you, or James, give me some hints how to proceed here.
Or shall I use hda-intel.ko? Which parameters?
Below is the output of hwinfo --sound
10: PCI 500.0: 0403 Audio device[Created at
pci.310]
UDI: /org/freedesktop/Hal/devices/pci_1102_9
Unique ID: Ddhb.YhraNp3EzIA
Parent ID: YmUS.Ty6MHw35u4D
SysFS ID: /devices/pci:00/:00:12.0/:04:00.0/:05:00.0
SysFS BusID: :05:00.0
Hardware Class: sound
Model: Creative [SB X-Fi Xtreme Audio] CA0110-IBG
Vendor: pci 0x1102 Creative Labs
Device: pci 0x0009 [SB X-Fi Xtreme Audio] CA0110-IBG
SubVendor: pci 0x1102 Creative Labs
SubDevice: pci 0x0018
Memory Range: 0xfebfc000-0xfebf (rw,non-prefetchable)
IRQ: 11 (no events)
Module Alias: pci:v1102d0009sv1102sd0018bc04sc03i00
Config Status: cfg=no, avail=yes, need=no, active=unknown
Attached to: #11 (PCI bridge)
Ciao Ruediger D
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Re: [Alsa-user] SPDIF woes
There is another option, cheaper than Xonar DX. Creative has relaeased PCI Express version of Xtreme Audio, which isn't based on X-Fi chip but on CA0110. There is some support in Takashi's sound-unstable tree. I'm not sure how well it works (let alone in regard to SPDIF support), hopefully Takashi will be able to answer that part. 2008/9/3 Jason Gauthier [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Jason Gauthier wrote: I can't find many cards except for the Creative Labs X-Fi that seems to fit both.. and from what I read SPDIF passthrough doesn't work.I'm not 100% sure what that means. (Pretty new to this level of audio) SPDIF was designed to transport two channels of 16-bit uncompressed audio at 48 kHz (this is 192,000 bytes per second). If you want to transport more channels (4.0/5.1/7.1), the data has to be compressed with a codec like Dolby Digital (AC-3) or DTS, and a special control bit must be set in the SPDIF stream to indicated that the data is compressed. (Since nobody wants to pay for an encoder license, this is mostly interesting for DVDs, which the audio data already in compressed form.) Fantastic explanation! I'm not 100% sure where that leaves me with my surround sound project with Linux (and Myth) but it does leave me thinking quite a bit. Thanks, Jason - This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK win great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100url=/ ___ Alsa-user mailing list Alsa-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/alsa-user -- Vedran Miletić - This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK win great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100url=/ ___ Alsa-user mailing list Alsa-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/alsa-user
Re: [Alsa-user] SPDIF woes
Jason Gauthier wrote: I can't find many cards except for the Creative Labs X-Fi that seems to fit both.. and from what I read SPDIF passthrough doesn't work.I'm not 100% sure what that means. (Pretty new to this level of audio) SPDIF was designed to transport two channels of 16-bit uncompressed audio at 48 kHz (this is 192,000 bytes per second). If you want to transport more channels (4.0/5.1/7.1), the data has to be compressed with a codec like Dolby Digital (AC-3) or DTS, and a special control bit must be set in the SPDIF stream to indicated that the data is compressed. (Since nobody wants to pay for an encoder license, this is mostly interesting for DVDs, which the audio data already in compressed form.) A sound card that can do SPDIF passthrough (usually called DTS/AC3 passthrough) can two things: 1) it does not modify the audio data in any way (every bit is needed for decoding), and 2) it allows to set the non-audio control bit. You don't need this feature if all you want is stereo. Does anyone have any recommended cards that fit both PCI Express, USB, or firewire and SPDIF out? USB: There are many devices with SPDIF output, but there isn't any one that does support passthrough in Linux. PCI-E: The X-Fi has SPDIF, and it should not take more than another few years before Creative adds passthrough support to the driver. The Asus Xonar DX and D2X cards do support passthrough, but you need a recent enough kernel; see http://www.alsa-project.org/main/index.php/Matrix:Vendor-Asus. Firewire: don't know, there is probably nothing that would be cheaper than the Xonar DX. HTH Clemens - This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK win great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100url=/ ___ Alsa-user mailing list Alsa-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/alsa-user
Re: [Alsa-user] SPDIF woes
Jason Gauthier wrote: I can't find many cards except for the Creative Labs X-Fi that seems to fit both.. and from what I read SPDIF passthrough doesn't work.I'm not 100% sure what that means. (Pretty new to this level of audio) SPDIF was designed to transport two channels of 16-bit uncompressed audio at 48 kHz (this is 192,000 bytes per second). If you want to transport more channels (4.0/5.1/7.1), the data has to be compressed with a codec like Dolby Digital (AC-3) or DTS, and a special control bit must be set in the SPDIF stream to indicated that the data is compressed. (Since nobody wants to pay for an encoder license, this is mostly interesting for DVDs, which the audio data already in compressed form.) Fantastic explanation! I'm not 100% sure where that leaves me with my surround sound project with Linux (and Myth) but it does leave me thinking quite a bit. Thanks, Jason - This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK win great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100url=/ ___ Alsa-user mailing list Alsa-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/alsa-user
