Need help with backup plan

2004-08-31 Thread Joe Konecny
Right now I back up my Netware server with Arcserve to a single tape. I have 10 tapes. The system is set up to accept any tape and run a full backup. What we do is keep the tapes in rotation and if someone forgets to bring a tape back from off site it is no big deal we just use the next one.

Re: Need help with backup plan

2004-08-31 Thread Dave Ewart
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tuesday, 31.08.2004 at 10:42 -0400, Joe Konecny wrote: Right now I back up my Netware server with Arcserve to a single tape. I have 10 tapes. The system is set up to accept any tape and run a full backup. What we do is keep the tapes in

Re: Need help with backup plan

2004-08-31 Thread Eric Siegerman
On Tue, Aug 31, 2004 at 10:42:58AM -0400, Joe Konecny wrote: The system is set up to accept any tape and run a full backup. What we do is keep the tapes in rotation and if someone forgets to bring a tape back from off site it is no big deal we just use the next one. This is the interesting

Re: Need help with backup plan

2004-08-31 Thread Joe Konecny
Gavin Henry wrote: Amanda is much better than that. It will but the backup in a holding disk i.e. folder/partition until space runs out or hits the limit you set. It will not overwrite another tape unless you force it by hand, which is good. You don't have to figure out which tape, amanda tells

Re: Need help with backup plan

2004-08-31 Thread Jon LaBadie
On Tue, Aug 31, 2004 at 03:49:49PM -0400, Joe Konecny wrote: Gavin Henry wrote: Amanda is much better than that. It will but the backup in a holding disk i.e. folder/partition until space runs out or hits the limit you set. It will not overwrite another tape unless you force it by hand,

Re: Need help with backup plan

2004-08-31 Thread Andreas Sundstrom
Joe Konecny wrote: Gavin Henry wrote: Amanda is much better than that. It will but the backup in a holding disk i.e. folder/partition until space runs out or hits the limit you set. It will not overwrite another tape unless you force it by hand, which is good. You don't have to figure out which

Re: Need help with backup plan

2004-08-31 Thread Joe Konecny
Jon LaBadie wrote: So... is amanda really not made for disaster recovery? That's great that it will back up to a holding disk with no tape but if the hard drive dies it's rather meaningless. I don't understand the leap you've made here. The holding disk is a buffer to allow multiple items to be

Re: Need help with backup plan

2004-08-31 Thread Jon LaBadie
On Tue, Aug 31, 2004 at 04:29:43PM -0400, Joe Konecny wrote: Jon LaBadie wrote: So... is amanda really not made for disaster recovery? That's great that it will back up to a holding disk with no tape but if the hard drive dies it's rather meaningless. How does that imply not for

Re: Need help with backup plan

2004-08-31 Thread Eric Siegerman
On Tue, Aug 31, 2004 at 04:29:43PM -0400, Joe Konecny wrote: To me that's ideal since the data collection in our factory runs 24-7. Even on Sat and Sun when I'm not there the tape is still over written with the latest data. If Amanda does only copies the data to a holding area and we lose a

Re: Need help with backup plan

2004-08-31 Thread Eric Siegerman
On Tue, Aug 31, 2004 at 10:42:27PM +0200, Andreas Sundstrom wrote: I think that if things are so critical I would seriously investigate in purchasing a tape changer. Indeed! Even better, though perhaps impractical, would be to back the data up across the network to a remote site. Rsync might

Re: Need help with backup plan

2004-08-31 Thread Eric Siegerman
There's a little bit of culture clash going on here, I think :-) On Tue, Aug 31, 2004 at 04:29:43PM -0400, Joe Konecny wrote: Even on Sat and Sun when I'm not there the tape is still over written with the latest data. The *last* thing I would *ever* want to do is to overwrite my most recent

Re: Need help with backup plan

2004-08-31 Thread Joe Konecny
Eric Siegerman wrote: There's a little bit of culture clash going on here, I think :-) On Tue, Aug 31, 2004 at 04:29:43PM -0400, Joe Konecny wrote: Even on Sat and Sun when I'm not there the tape is still over written with the latest data. The *last* thing I would *ever* want to do is to

Re: Need help with backup plan

2004-08-31 Thread Jon LaBadie
On Tue, Aug 31, 2004 at 09:20:29PM -0400, Joe Konecny wrote: I guess that is my problem. I am currently configured to have the holding disk on the same physical drive. The best option appears to be to purchase a new drive. One question though... I assume the new drive should be at lease