Re: New to Amanda- discouraged by some absurd limitations..

2004-05-04 Thread Gene Heskett
On Tuesday 04 May 2004 02:05, Justin Gombos wrote: * Jonathan Dill [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2004-05-02 12:44]: As others have pointed out, 700 MB CD-R is probably not going to be adequate for backing up multiple clients across the network anyway. I'll have to figure that out. I'm having trouble

Re: New to Amanda- discouraged by some absurd limitations..

2004-05-04 Thread Joshua Baker-LePain
On Tue, 4 May 2004 at 12:23am, Justin Gombos wrote Mail-Followup-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Jon LaBadie [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2004-05-02 12:44]: On Sun, May 02, 2004 at 12:44:16PM -0600, Justin Gombos wrote: IMHO this was rather rude way to bring up the issue, First of all, I did

Re: New to Amanda- discouraged by some absurd limitations..

2004-05-04 Thread Stephen Carville
On Monday May 03 2004 11:05 pm, Justin Gombos wrote: * Jonathan Dill [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2004-05-02 12:44]: As others have pointed out, 700 MB CD-R is probably not going to be adequate for backing up multiple clients across the network anyway. I'll have to figure that out. I'm having

Re: New to Amanda- discouraged by some absurd limitations..

2004-05-04 Thread pll+amanda
In a message dated: Tue, 04 May 2004 05:43:42 EDT Gene Heskett said: But, some have setup two configurations, one that runs weekly and is forced to do fulls on everything in the disklist, and one that runs during the week that does the incrementals. I do not do that here, so I'l let someone

Re: New to Amanda- discouraged by some absurd limitations..

2004-05-04 Thread Jon LaBadie
On Tue, May 04, 2004 at 06:08:09AM -0700, Stephen Carville wrote: On Monday May 03 2004 11:05 pm, Justin Gombos wrote: * Jonathan Dill [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2004-05-02 12:44]: As others have pointed out, 700 MB CD-R is probably not going to be adequate for backing up multiple clients across

Re: New to Amanda- discouraged by some absurd limitations..

2004-05-04 Thread Gene Heskett
On Tuesday 04 May 2004 10:52, Jon LaBadie wrote: On Tue, May 04, 2004 at 12:23:01AM -0600, Justin Gombos wrote: Mail-Followup-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Note where the added header ended up, in the body, not the headers. I had an X-follow-up line in the header of that message. OTOH-- if you want

Re: New to Amanda- discouraged by some absurd limitations..

2004-05-04 Thread Justin Gombos
* Stephen Carville [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2004-05-02 10:11]: What does a CD-R cost these days? About 35-40 cents apiece? The price is not the biggest issue here. I have a plastic tub full of hundreds of CDRs that were free after MIR. What I don't like is: 1) the effort of swapping the media

Re: New to Amanda- discouraged by some absurd limitations..

2004-05-04 Thread Justin Gombos
* Jonathan Dill [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2004-05-02 12:44]: As others have pointed out, 700 MB CD-R is probably not going to be adequate for backing up multiple clients across the network anyway. I'll have to figure that out. I'm having trouble realizing how Amanda behaves. So far it doesn't look

Re: New to Amanda- discouraged by some absurd limitations..

2004-05-04 Thread Justin Gombos
Mail-Followup-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Jon LaBadie [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2004-05-02 12:44]: On Sun, May 02, 2004 at 12:44:16PM -0600, Justin Gombos wrote: IMHO this was rather rude way to bring up the issue, First of all, I did not know whether this was an issue, that's why I posted

Re: New to Amanda- discouraged by some absurd limitations..

2004-05-03 Thread Jonathan Dill
Which reminds me...If cost is a factor, now that FILE-DRIVER is an option, RAID or removable hard drives may give you a better $/GB ratio than tapes, and much more capacity than CD-R. I think this is a very good option for a single computer or small network like Justin described in his original

Re: New to Amanda- discouraged by some absurd limitations..

2004-05-03 Thread Jon LaBadie
On Mon, May 03, 2004 at 10:45:26AM -0400, Jonathan Dill wrote: Which reminds me...If cost is a factor, now that FILE-DRIVER is an option, RAID or removable hard drives may give you a better $/GB ratio than tapes, and much more capacity than CD-R. I think this is a very good option for a

Re: New to Amanda- discouraged by some absurd limitations..

2004-05-03 Thread whargrove
Hello, and thank you for your email. I shall be out of the office until Tuesday 4th May. Should your email require urgent attention, the please contact David Adams or email [EMAIL PROTECTED] Regards, William Hargrove

Re: New to Amanda- discouraged by some absurd limitations..

2004-05-03 Thread Jonathan Dill
Jon LaBadie wrote: One of the concerns I have about disk-only based backup schemes is the total loss of data. If you encounter a 2-disk failure you lose not only your most recent, but all your backups. If a tape drive fails the data can be read on another drive. If a single tape goes bad, that

Re: New to Amanda- discouraged by some absurd limitations..

2004-05-03 Thread Stephen Carville
On Monday May 03 2004 09:45 am, Jonathan Dill wrote: Jon LaBadie wrote: One of the concerns I have about disk-only based backup schemes is the total loss of data. If you encounter a 2-disk failure you lose not only your most recent, but all your backups. If a tape drive fails the data can

Re: New to Amanda- discouraged by some absurd limitations..

2004-05-02 Thread Jonathan Dill
Use FILE-DRIVER and wait until you have enough files to fill up the CD-R. Or use CD-RW as your tapes and keep several that you can rotate and re-use. Oh yes, we have designed amanda specifically to satisfy your personal whims, pretty please don't reject it, it will so much hurt my feelings.

Re: New to Amanda- discouraged by some absurd limitations..

2004-05-02 Thread Justin Gombos
* Jonathan Dill [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2004-05-02 10:27]: Use FILE-DRIVER and wait until you have enough files to fill up the CD-R. Or use CD-RW as your tapes and keep several that you can rotate and re-use. Maybe the file-driver will suffice.. I'll have to look into that. IMHO this was

Re: New to Amanda- discouraged by some absurd limitations..

2004-05-02 Thread Jonathan Dill
Justin Gombos wrote: First of all, I did not know whether this was an issue, that's why I posted here. It was certainly proper to raise an Amanda issue/question to the amanda-users mailing list. Asking, Can amanda do X? is one thing, but to complain of an absurd limitation is, frankly,

Re: New to Amanda- discouraged by some absurd limitations..

2004-05-02 Thread Jon LaBadie
On Sun, May 02, 2004 at 12:44:16PM -0600, Justin Gombos wrote: IMHO this was rather rude way to bring up the issue, First of all, I did not know whether this was an issue, that's why I posted here. It was certainly proper to raise an Amanda issue/question to the amanda-users mailing

Re: New to Amanda- discouraged by some absurd limitations..

2004-05-02 Thread whargrove
Hello, and thank you for your email. I shall be out of the office until Tuesday 4th May. Should your email require urgent attention, the please contact David Adams or email [EMAIL PROTECTED] Regards, William Hargrove

Re: New to Amanda- discouraged by some absurd limitations..

2004-05-02 Thread brad
I understand your reaction, and I would likely have posted something similar during my first week or so with Amanda, but I'm a lurker by nature. I figured the answer would show itself sooner or later. I've had all of my questions answered and then some. This is one of the most information rich and

New to Amanda- discouraged by some absurd limitations..

2004-05-01 Thread Justin Gombos
I was looking forward to using Amanda to backup 4-5 machines on my LAN and one over the Internet, but something seems incredibly stupid about the way Amanda forces the user to operate. Please tell me I'm wrong; maybe I'm misunderstanding the documentation. If I want to perform daily backups to

Re: New to Amanda- discouraged by some absurd limitations..

2004-05-01 Thread Gene Heskett
On Saturday 01 May 2004 23:51, Justin Gombos wrote: I was looking forward to using Amanda to backup 4-5 machines on my LAN and one over the Internet, but something seems incredibly stupid about the way Amanda forces the user to operate. Please tell me I'm wrong; maybe I'm misunderstanding the

Re: New to Amanda- discouraged by some absurd limitations..

2004-05-01 Thread Stephen Carville
On Saturday May 01 2004 08:51 pm, Justin Gombos wrote: I was looking forward to using Amanda to backup 4-5 machines on my LAN and one over the Internet, but something seems incredibly stupid about the way Amanda forces the user to operate. Please tell me I'm wrong; maybe I'm misunderstanding