Re: [AMRadio] AM IARU Region 2 Bandplan

2010-03-10 Thread Bernie Doran
Hi Brent: yes I agree. since getting the SDR, now about two mo ago, I see things I never knew were there. probably repeating, but the better sounding AM needs about 4 to 4.5 each side if the receiver can handle that, a lot do not. that is just one reason why I stay out of the 3880 area unless

[AMRadio] my shortest post ever

2010-03-10 Thread Bernie Doran
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Re: [AMRadio] AM IARU Region 2 Bandplan

2010-03-10 Thread Jim Tonne
Bob: I am pretty sure that by bandwidth of 3 kc they definitely meant *modulating signal* bandwidth of 3 kc. - Jim W4ENE __ Our Main Website: http://www.amfone.net AMRadio mailing list Searchable Archives:

Re: [AMRadio] AM IARU Region 2 Bandplan

2010-03-10 Thread rbethman
Jim, I understand what the rules mean, however is seems that some folks feel that the entire emission from AM DSB is 3Kc. I just wanted to clearly tell it how it is. What it comes down to, an AM DSB *WILL* exceed 6Kc. That would even be if each sideband is limited to 3Kc in width. This is

[AMRadio] Signal Bandwidth

2010-03-10 Thread rbethman
We've been beating this DEAD horse. Don Chester made some very good points regarding the way human process audio presented to the ear. Some may disagree. The reality is just what Don stated. The consonants do indeed appear up around 3500cps. If one were to have an audiogram, hearing test,

Re: [AMRadio] AM IARU Region 2 Bandplan

2010-03-10 Thread sbjohnston
The alarming confusion expressed right here on the AMRADIO mailing list regarding the occupied bandwidth of a DSB AM signal makes my point beautifully. Most hams know what mode they are running, but few really know the bandwidth of their signnal. Very few hams have the knowledge, skills, or

Re: [AMRadio] AM IARU Region 2 Bandplan

2010-03-10 Thread rbethman
That is precisely WHY I posted my earlier message today! Subject: Signal Bandwidth. To lay out what the ENTIRE AM signal is composed of, and by words, describe what it will/would look like, whether you laid it out on a graph with stubby pencil, or were to look at it with a station monitor

Re: [AMRadio] AM IARU Region 2 Bandplan

2010-03-10 Thread Bry Carling
He he - yeah, and unless I missed something nobody has really defined what the parameters are for that bandwidth anyway! - 6dB? -40dB? And of course there are ALL KINDS of other details beyond just this number. Unless the discussion became a whole lot more technical than it has been up to

Re: [AMRadio] AM IARU Region 2 Bandplan

2010-03-10 Thread Bob Macklin
If the -3db point of your AM modulator is say 3600HZ then your signal will be +/- 3600Hz at the -3db point.This is 7200Hz. Bob Macklin K5MYJ Seattle, Wa. Real Radios Glow In The Dark - Original Message - From: sbjohns...@aol.com To: amradio@mailman.qth.net Sent: Wednesday, March 10,

Re: [AMRadio] AM IARU Region 2 Bandplan

2010-03-10 Thread Bob Macklin
No place in Part 97 is the bandwidth for eater SSB or AM defined. Bob Macklin K5MYJ Seattle, Wa. Real Radios Glow In The Dark - Original Message - From: Bry Carling bcarl...@cfl.rr.com To: Discussion of AM Radio in the Amateur Service amradio@mailman.qth.net Sent: Wednesday, March 10,

Re: [AMRadio] AM IARU Region 2 Bandplan

2010-03-10 Thread Rob Atkinson
Good. Rob K5UJ On Wed, Mar 10, 2010 at 9:01 PM, Bob Macklin macklin...@msn.com wrote: No place in Part 97 is the bandwidth for eater SSB or AM defined. Bob Macklin K5MYJ Seattle, Wa. Real Radios Glow In The Dark __ Our Main

Re: [AMRadio] AM IARU Region 2 Bandplan

2010-03-10 Thread Paul Christensen
No place in Part 97 is the bandwidth for eater SSB or AM defined. Section 97.307(a) is the closest regulation we have pertaining occupied bandwidth in the American amateur service. However, some folks have argued that Sections 2.201 and 2.202 apply to the Part 97 service since Section

Re: [AMRadio] AM IARU Region 2 Bandplan

2010-03-10 Thread Bob Macklin
Since I got my ticket in 1957 DSB AM was defined as 6KC B/W. Title 47, Part 2.202 does define the bandwidth for DSB AM as 6KHz. Bob Macklin K5MYJ Seattle, Wa. Real Radios Glow In The Dark - Original Message - From: Paul Christensen w...@arrl.net To: Discussion of AM Radio in the Amateur

Re: [AMRadio] AM IARU Bandplan

2010-03-10 Thread D. Chester
I have enough of a time keeping the BEASTs reined in at 1500W PEP. If I set the microphone resting current at the specified in the TM at 40ma, the darn thing WILL hit 2500W PEP. Bob - N0DGN Bob, what are you using to measure your PEP? All the stock BC-610's I ever worked on back in the

Re: [AMRadio] AM IARU Bandplan

2010-03-10 Thread rbethman
Don, The first issue, the BC-610sw were designed and spec'd to run at 100V AC. Mine rune at the currently available 125 to 127 VAC that is supplied. This places voltages ABOVE those listed in the TMs. Therefore, when one looks at the voltage difference, this will carry through as higher