Re: [AMRadio] Microphone recomendation

2009-09-25 Thread D. Chester
I currently use two microphones mixed together in proper phase, with a homebrew tube type 2-channel audio mixer. One mic is a vintage hi-Z Astatic D-104 and the other is an Electrovoice model 670 dynamic that otherwise might have been tossed out because it somehow developed very poor high

Re: [AMRadio] Microphone recomendation

2009-09-25 Thread John Coleman
Very nice combination Don. Have you decided what those big triodes tubes are that I gave you, characteristics, etc., and speaking of Microphones have you found one of those connectors or a part number. As for the 12AX7s, I have always wondered if a guy could build a SS replacement with the

Re: [AMRadio] Microphone recomendation

2009-09-25 Thread sbjohnston
I've been having some success replacing the preamp in the base of amplified D104 mics with an FET buffer stage to ensure the crystal element is working into a very high load impedance. See... http://www.wd8das.net/D104-FETbuffer.gif The 4.7k resistor in the drawing can be changed to match

Re: [AMRadio] Microphone recomendation

2009-09-24 Thread sbjohnston
. - -Original Message- From: VJB wa3...@yahoo.com To: amradio@mailman.qth.net Sent: Wed, Sep 23, 2009 7:55 pm Subject: Re: [AMRadio] Microphone recomendation Steve I really enjoy that photo/text page of your transmitter project. http://www.wd8das.net/gates.html

Re: [AMRadio] Microphone recomendation, a query...

2009-09-24 Thread Todd Carpenter
@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [AMRadio] Microphone recomendation On Tue, Sep 22, 2009 at 1:36 PM, Ed Sieb es...@sympatico.ca wrote: Why operate split, Max? Most of us can operate on 3705 now. We Canadians have been down there for years! And us Yanks got to join the fun a few years back. I've heard Henk

Re: [AMRadio] Microphone recomendation

2009-09-24 Thread Paul Christensen
found a better rackmount mixer to replace it yet. I'd like to get a Pacific Recorders NewsMixer but haven't found one priced cheap enough for my budget. I would check with Mooretronix. Although they primarily service PRE product, from time-to-time they also have reconditioned consoles

Re: [AMRadio] Microphone recomendation

2009-09-24 Thread BILL GUYGER
. - -Original Message- From: VJB wa3...@yahoo.com To: amradio@mailman.qth.net Sent: Wed, Sep 23, 2009 7:55 pm Subject: Re: [AMRadio] Microphone recomendation Steve I really enjoy that photo/text page of your transmitter project. http://www.wd8das.net

Re: [AMRadio] Microphone recomendation

2009-09-24 Thread Paul Christensen
Amen to Steve's comments on Logitek. They run 120V. from the back panel to the power switch on the front panel on a piece of Belden 8451 shieded pair audio cable bundled in with the microphone lines from the back panel connectors. Shall we say less than best engineering practices. And...

Re: [AMRadio] Microphone recomendation

2009-09-24 Thread BILL GUYGER
@mailman.qth.net Sent: Thursday, September 24, 2009 3:53:28 PM Subject: Re: [AMRadio] Microphone recomendation Amen to Steve's comments on Logitek. They run 120V. from the back panel to the power switch on the front panel on a piece of Belden 8451 shieded pair audio cable bundled in with the microphone

Re: [AMRadio] Microphone recomendation

2009-09-24 Thread Paul Christensen
Not sure that Euro or Phoenix connectors were around (or at least readily available) when these beasties were built. Strictly 1970's low tech. Bill AD5OL They were around in 1995 -- the last time I had seen a Logitek Mixer installed. Other options existed then as well, including 6, 9, 12,

Re: [AMRadio] Microphone recomendation

2009-09-24 Thread Bob Peters
: amradio-boun...@mailman.qth.net [mailto:amradio-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of sbjohns...@aol.com Sent: Thursday, September 24, 2009 7:44 PM To: amradio@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [AMRadio] Microphone recomendation This Logitek rack mixer has XLRs and TRS phone jacks on the back

Re: [AMRadio] Microphone recomendation

2009-09-23 Thread Rob Atkinson
Well at the risk of starting another long blowout, I would like to meekly make the point that I find some justification in outboard processing for AM if will add a little punch and clarity to the sidebands and increase the average power in them. I think since AM in the U.S. is limited to about

Re: [AMRadio] Microphone recomendation

2009-09-23 Thread VJB
Steve I really enjoy that photo/text page of your transmitter project. http://www.wd8das.net/gates.html There's nothing like seeing a Gates on a trailer hitch carrier. I can only imagine what people thought you were a-totin' going down the road. That's a nice audio setup you described.  Is

Re: [AMRadio] Microphone recomendation

2009-09-23 Thread Brett Gazdzinski
, 2009 8:33 PM Subject: Re: [AMRadio] Microphone recomendation Well at the risk of starting another long blowout, I would like to meekly make the point that I find some justification in outboard processing for AM if will add a little punch and clarity to the sidebands and increase the average

Re: [AMRadio] Microphone recomendation

2009-09-23 Thread Todd, KA1KAQ
On Wed, Sep 23, 2009 at 8:33 PM, Rob Atkinson ranchoro...@gmail.com wrote: Well at the risk of starting another long blowout, I would like to meekly make the point that I find some justification in outboard processing for AM if will add a little punch and clarity to the sidebands and increase

Re: [AMRadio] Microphone recomendation

2009-09-22 Thread Jim Tonne
I have been lurking here and reading the discussion which seems to me to have reduced itself down to a kind of my daddy is better than your daddy kind of thing. The person who said the D104 microphone could be thought of as a voltage generator in series with a 500 pF capacitor hit the nail on

Re: [AMRadio] Microphone recomendation

2009-09-22 Thread bbruhns
Serviceamradio@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [AMRadio] Microphone recomendation I have been lurking here and reading the discussion which seems to me to have reduced itself down to a kind of my daddy is better than your daddy kind of thing. The person who said the D104 microphone could be thought

Re: [AMRadio] Microphone recomendation

2009-09-22 Thread Paul Christensen
Message - From: Jim Tonne to...@comcast.net To: Discussion of AM Radio in the Amateur Service amradio@mailman.qth.net Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2009 11:07 AM Subject: Re: [AMRadio] Microphone recomendation I have been lurking here and reading the discussion which seems to me to have reduced

Re: [AMRadio] Microphone recomendation

2009-09-22 Thread Jim Tonne
Paul: Although not shown through the model diminishing returns hits pretty fast just above 5 megohm. That was basically my point.I seem to recall that the D-104 folks were recommending a 5.1 megohm load. That was a very long time ago so perhaps my memory is faulty. The discussion had

Re: [AMRadio] Microphone recomendation

2009-09-22 Thread Todd, KA1KAQ
On Mon, Sep 21, 2009 at 3:40 PM, Stevan A. White w5...@pathwayz.com wrote: Todd, KA1KAQ wrote: You can probably make a soup can sound decent with enough processing, so mic choice becomes more a choice of preference and less one of performance. Funny but quite true, you just need a

Re: [AMRadio] Microphone recomendation

2009-09-22 Thread rbethman
Yes, Todd has tried to re-focus the intended discussion! It normally is helpful. The individual indeed has a KW-1, Remembered that he HAS a Shure-55, as the discussion went, AND is looking to get all the specific information to work on the modulation deck - in a one shot one kill strike, as

Re: [AMRadio] Microphone recomendation

2009-09-22 Thread AirRadio
Wow, Such a massive amount of mails in my inbox today, I had to find out what was going down, actually this is one of the most interesting threads for a long time, keep it up people, great reflector, I am going to try some of these with my own big AM (BC-610E) here in the UK, I have a Shure 55

Re: [AMRadio] Microphone recomendation

2009-09-22 Thread Gerald Stockinger
Since I am the troublemaker that started this thread I want to say thanks to Bob and Todd. I will admit that I have enjoyed watching this thread veer off toward the moon and I will also say I enjoyed reading all the different comments. I agree with Bob's summation. Right on. If I wanted to run

Re: [AMRadio] Microphone recomendation

2009-09-22 Thread Ed Sieb
Why operate split, Max? Most of us can operate on 3705 now. We Canadians have been down there for years! Ed, VA3ES - Max M0GHQ wrote: [...] keep your ears out on 3705 over the winter months for European stations we can split rx to

Re: [AMRadio] Microphone recomendation

2009-09-22 Thread Todd, KA1KAQ
On Tue, Sep 22, 2009 at 1:30 PM, Gerald Stockinger cliogunsm...@centurytel.net wrote: I am going to make the recommended audio changes to the KW-1 including jumpering the clipper and eliminating the splatter filter. I will start with the Shure 55SH that I have and may also try other mics. But

Re: [AMRadio] Microphone recomendation

2009-09-22 Thread Todd, KA1KAQ
On Tue, Sep 22, 2009 at 1:36 PM, Ed Sieb es...@sympatico.ca wrote: Why operate split, Max? Most of us can operate on 3705 now. We Canadians have been down there for years! And us Yanks got to join the fun a few years back. I've heard Henk, Jean and the gang on 3705 a few times, but could

Re: [AMRadio] Microphone recomendation

2009-09-22 Thread sbjohnston
Voices can be so radically different that it is hard to say that one mic is a good one for everyone. And just because you like how you sound to yourself in the headphones, that doesn't mean you really sound good, due to the mixing of the sound coming in your ears with the sound that travels

Re: [AMRadio] Microphone recomendation

2009-09-21 Thread Bob Peters
...@mailman.qth.net [mailto:amradio-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Gerald Stockinger Sent: Monday, September 21, 2009 10:10 AM To: AM Radio Subject: [AMRadio] Microphone recomendation Good morning to all. Since I will soon be new to AM having been on SSB since 1957 I need the benefit of others experience

Re: [AMRadio] Microphone recomendation

2009-09-21 Thread Phil LaMarche
...@mailman.qth.net [mailto:amradio-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Bob Peters Sent: Monday, September 21, 2009 11:51 AM To: 'Discussion of AM Radio in the Amateur Service' Subject: Re: [AMRadio] Microphone recomendation Hi Jerry... I have 2 heil PR-40 mics that I use on Am... These have tremendous

Re: [AMRadio] Microphone recomendation

2009-09-21 Thread manualman
Heil's PR-781 works great on AM and full body SSB. Pete, wa2cwa -Original Message- From: amradio-boun...@mailman.qth.net [mailto:amradio-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Gerald Stockinger Sent: Monday, September 21, 2009 10:10 AM To: AM Radio Subject: [AMRadio] Microphone

Re: [AMRadio] Microphone recomendation

2009-09-21 Thread Phil LaMarche
#1605 CCA 98 00827 CRA 1701 W9DVM -Original Message- From: amradio-boun...@mailman.qth.net [mailto:amradio-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of manualman Sent: Monday, September 21, 2009 12:24 PM To: amradio@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [AMRadio] Microphone recomendation Heil's PR-781

Re: [AMRadio] Microphone recomendation

2009-09-21 Thread Stevan A. White
Funny, as I was typing my other mic comments I was thinking that a good condition, properly adjust D-104 would be the first thing I'd try on just about any hi-Z input BA rig, especially a Collins. 73 de W5SAW, Steve White Phil LaMarche wrote: I use a K3 on SSB and a 32V-3 on AM. What

Re: [AMRadio] Microphone recomendation

2009-09-21 Thread Bob Peters
...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Phil LaMarche Sent: Monday, September 21, 2009 11:31 AM To: 'Discussion of AM Radio in the Amateur Service' Subject: Re: [AMRadio] Microphone recomendation I use a K3 on SSB and a 32V-3 on AM. What recommendation for the Collins. Get rave reviews with a D-104 every time I get

Re: [AMRadio] Microphone recomendation

2009-09-21 Thread Bob Peters
] Microphone recomendation Heil's PR-781 works great on AM and full body SSB. Pete, wa2cwa -Original Message- From: amradio-boun...@mailman.qth.net [mailto:amradio-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Gerald Stockinger Sent: Monday, September 21, 2009 10:10 AM To: AM Radio Subject: [AMRadio

Re: [AMRadio] Microphone recomendation

2009-09-21 Thread WB5OXQ
I use a Heil GM-4 hand mike on am and ssb. I also have a deep voice and used to be in radio broadcasting. The Heil wide element has a freq response of 60-16k with a bump at 2k to improve intelligence while still having a good low end. The mike also has the Heil high freq element with a

Re: [AMRadio] Microphone recomendation

2009-09-21 Thread Rob Atkinson
Firstly, that's one hell of a first rig for AM! Congratulations. To me, the mic to use depends on what's been done to the KW1. Is it stock? A later KW1? It seems to me that then you would want a Hi Z communications mic. Besides what has been mentioned, there is the Shure 444 and 520. The

Re: [AMRadio] Microphone recomendation

2009-09-21 Thread Carl Yaffey
My D-104 seems to work just fine on my unmodified Valiant I and Ranger I. What microphones have you guys used with those rigs? Carl Yaffey K8NU Banjo, guitar, bass, mandolin, dobro lessons. Pro Tools recording studio. cyaffeyno_s...@gmail.com 614 268 6353, Columbus OH

Re: [AMRadio] Microphone recomendation

2009-09-21 Thread rbethman
Jerry, There are two good Hi-Z mics that come to mind. Both are, (were), mfg by Shure. The 55S and the 737A. Both have a response from about 100cps to 10Kc. I know that most folks seem to no longer consider them, BUT, Mike M., W3NB has won the Heavy Metal Rally several times with his Gates

Re: [AMRadio] Microphone recomendation

2009-09-21 Thread Bob Peters
] Microphone recomendation Jerry, There are two good Hi-Z mics that come to mind. Both are, (were), mfg by Shure. The 55S and the 737A. Both have a response from about 100cps to 10Kc. I know that most folks seem to no longer consider them, BUT, Mike M., W3NB has won the Heavy Metal Rally several times

Re: [AMRadio] Microphone recomendation

2009-09-21 Thread rbethman
[mailto:amradio-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of rbethman Sent: Monday, September 21, 2009 1:44 PM To: Discussion of AM Radio in the Amateur Service Subject: Re: [AMRadio] Microphone recomendation Jerry, There are two good Hi-Z mics that come to mind. Both are, (were), mfg by Shure

Re: [AMRadio] Microphone recomendation

2009-09-21 Thread Todd, KA1KAQ
On Mon, Sep 21, 2009 at 11:09 AM, Gerald Stockinger cliogunsm...@centurytel.net wrote: Good morning to all. Since I will soon be new to AM having been on SSB since 1957 I need the benefit of others experience. Last week a good amount of time was spent on audio quality so I thought I would

Re: [AMRadio] Microphone recomendation

2009-09-21 Thread Stevan A. White
Earlier, in my enthusiasm for Heil mics I failed to mention (except at the end of my post) that I like and still use Shure mics. The 55S and 737A are good hi-Z mics as are the Shure 585SD, 565SD, and 545SD (all dual-Z) and the E-V 664 which was a very popular podium mic in the 60s and 70s. I

Re: [AMRadio] Microphone recomendation

2009-09-21 Thread Robert Nickels
Bob Peters wrote: Also the EV-664 is a great HI Z mic And, in a pinch, it makes a pretty decent hammer! 73, Bob W9RAN __ Our Main Website: http://www.amfone.net AMRadio mailing list Searchable Archives:

Re: [AMRadio] Microphone recomendation

2009-09-21 Thread Stevan A. White
Todd, KA1KAQ wrote: [lots of snips] I've always used a crystal D-104 with excellent results, ... but if you do the simple mods to the audio of your transmitter and plug in a decent D-104 (make sure the element is in good shape with a scope), you'll be very pleased. An excellent place

Re: [AMRadio] Microphone recomendation

2009-09-21 Thread Robert Nickels
Todd, KA1KAQ wrote: You can probably make a soup can sound decent with enough processing, These fellers sounded pretty good (and got paid ten dollars) for singing into a can ;-) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=krwywj_gIjk 73, Bob W9RAN

Re: [AMRadio] Microphone recomendation

2009-09-21 Thread D. Chester
The D-104 or any other crystal mic needs to work into PLENTY of megohms of load resistance. Astatic recommends 5 megohms, but I run mine at 10 megs - probably about as high a grid leak resistance that you can use in a tube type preamp and maintain stable operation. I have plans in the works

Re: [AMRadio] Microphone recomendation

2009-09-21 Thread Paul Christensen
pair of high-mu triodes in a push-pull mic preamp. That way, each tube can have its own 10 meg grid leak to allow for a 20 megohm load on the xtal. It's possible to duplicate a similar circuit using an FET differential amplifier with dual FETs in a single package (e.g., 2SJ109), or a