Re: [amsat-bb] Current Launch Costs From Spaceflight

2014-08-02 Thread M5AKA
We're not going to see another satellite with a 144 MHz yagi. TheMode B HEO ship has long since sailed Paul, The problem is there aren't any global primary Amateur-Satellite microwave bands below 24 GHz. While our allocations at 29 MHz and 144 MHz may be primary world-wide the other

[amsat-bb] Current Launch Costs From Spaceflight

2014-08-01 Thread Bill Ress
Spaceflight has released it's latest pricing for launching various satellite sizes and orbit. Read it and weep. Pricing continues to rise. http://spaceflightservices.com/pricing-plans/ Regards...Bill - N6GHz ___ Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.org. Opinions

Re: [amsat-bb] Current Launch Costs From Spaceflight

2014-08-01 Thread M5AKA
The $295,000 for a 3U CubeSat to LEO (which presumably means a 600 km or lower LEO) seems comparable with prices from others using proven launchers (typically $100k for 1U). It highlights the importance of partnering with others, such as Educational establishments to defray costs. 73 Trevor

Re: [amsat-bb] Current Launch Costs From Spaceflight

2014-08-01 Thread Paul Stoetzer
The last time I saw this site, they did list prices for 1U and 2U CubeSats. Wonder why they don't anymore. 73, Paul, N8HM On Fri, Aug 1, 2014 at 12:16 PM, M5AKA m5...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: The $295,000 for a 3U CubeSat to LEO (which presumably means a 600 km or lower LEO) seems comparable with

Re: [amsat-bb] Current Launch Costs From Spaceflight

2014-08-01 Thread Bill Ress
Hi Paul, Good question about the 1U and 2U. I found the $650 mil for a 3U to GTO interesting. As Trevor says, launch costs might not be out of reach if we can find some deep pocket university partners. That would fall in line with the AMSAT strategy of supporting the CMD/COMM side of a joint

Re: [amsat-bb] Current Launch Costs From Spaceflight

2014-08-01 Thread B J
On 8/1/14, M5AKA m5...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: The $295,000 for a 3U CubeSat to LEO (which presumably means a 600 km or lower LEO) seems comparable with prices from others using proven launchers (typically $100k for 1U). It highlights the importance of partnering with others, such as Educational

Re: [amsat-bb] Current Launch Costs From Spaceflight

2014-08-01 Thread John Becker
Can some explain to me and others the big deal about cube sats? I just dont get it. John ___ Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!

Re: [amsat-bb] Current Launch Costs From Spaceflight

2014-08-01 Thread Bill Ress
Well John, right now they are the cheapest to build and launch...Bill - N6GHz On 8/1/2014 10:01 AM, John Becker wrote: Can some explain to me and others the big deal about cube sats? I just dont get it. John ___ Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.org. Opinions

Re: [amsat-bb] Current Launch Costs From Spaceflight

2014-08-01 Thread Paul Stoetzer
The Wikipedia article on CubeSats (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CubeSat) has a very nice summary of why they are the present and future of the small satellite industry: The CubeSat specification accomplishes several high-level goals. Simplification of the satellite's infrastructure makes it

Re: [amsat-bb] Current Launch Costs From Spaceflight

2014-08-01 Thread B J
On 8/1/14, Paul Stoetzer n...@arrl.net wrote: The Wikipedia article on CubeSats (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CubeSat) has a very nice summary of why they are the present and future of the small satellite industry: The CubeSat specification accomplishes several high-level goals.

Re: [amsat-bb] Current Launch Costs From Spaceflight

2014-08-01 Thread Paul Stoetzer
True. That is a problem, though it's certainly a separate issue from the design and construction of the satellite. The best the amateur satellite community can do is cultivate relationships with those who wish to use our frequencies and hopefully receive some benefit. For example, several

Re: [amsat-bb] Current Launch Costs From Spaceflight

2014-08-01 Thread Robert Bruninga
Can some explain to me and others the big deal about cube sats? I just dont get it. Standardization! But the real payoff from standardization is REDUCED RISK to the launch provider. Instead of having to micromanage every detail of satellite design so that the launch provider can GURARANTEE

Re: [amsat-bb] Current Launch Costs From Spaceflight

2014-08-01 Thread Bryce Salmi
Nailed it On Fri, Aug 1, 2014 at 12:57 PM, Robert Bruninga bruni...@usna.edu wrote: Can some explain to me and others the big deal about cube sats? I just dont get it. Standardization! But the real payoff from standardization is REDUCED RISK to the launch provider. Instead of having to

Re: [amsat-bb] Current Launch Costs From Spaceflight

2014-08-01 Thread Gus
They're cheap. On 08/01/2014 01:01 PM, John Becker wrote: Can some explain to me and others the big deal about cube sats? I just dont get it. John ___ Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member?

Re: [amsat-bb] Current Launch Costs From Spaceflight

2014-08-01 Thread Bryce Salmi
Innovation is often driven out of necessity. I see it everyday at work. Develop a baseline system that works and then optimize it. You'd be amazed what you could do with the small of a space to pack electronics into. Bryce On Fri, Aug 1, 2014 at 6:16 PM, Gus g...@8p6sm.net wrote: On

Re: [amsat-bb] Current Launch Costs From Spaceflight

2014-08-01 Thread Gus
Absolutely! Micro-miniaturization! But some things are difficult to miniaturize -- like a 144 MHz yagi. On 08/01/2014 09:20 PM, Bryce Salmi wrote: Innovation is often driven out of necessity. I see it everyday at work. Develop a baseline system that works and then optimize it. You'd be