it seems it's different from what I though (older than a year, so I have
the right to forget the exact content :P) although I think there are some
other mails on the same thread that answer our original request...
anyways, it gives an idea on how we would be able to override the skins'
settin
yes! great idea! since we're able to receive them correctly, problem is
just in sending them!!!
I would need people who are willing to do this, to find out exactly what
bytes changed and which of these bytes represent the ISF, and being able
to extract the ISF and be able to view the extracte
This will be fixed tomorrow.. it seems that Vivia was in a 'killing
spree'.. she was so fed up with all the comments and suggestions over this
feature "that noone wants", that she decided to delete the code and forget
about it...
let's hope she calmed down enough to be able to get some rest a
Did I (we) miss a discussion on IRC or something? :PLe 25 janvier 2006 à 18:53, Vivia Nikolaidou a écrit : No more display pictures in contact list
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Youness Alaoui wrote:
> we'll just send prebuilt winks...
> also, if the flash has to be signed, then we can't do this, and noone
> else can either unless they go through M$.. so maybe there's a
> website/service they offer for creating winks after mak
AT LAST!!! the second forward...
now, you go look in SF archives for this thread, and read it, a lot of
ideas were sent there...
KKRT
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From: "Youness Alaoui" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: amsn-devel@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: Re: [Amsn-devel] possible wishlist
> ISF is an undocumented and complex vector format, it has 2 forms,
> compressed and uncompressed. We study very hard to decode the format,
> and knew the uncompressed form only at current time. The compression
> algorithm is so hard to understand without any referenced document.
>
> MSN can t
one forward down...
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From: "Michael Su" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: InfoPen MSN API
Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2004 00:05:25 -0500
Dear Mr. Youness,
ISF is an undocumented and complex vector format, it has 2 forms,
compressed
and uncompressed. W
aie aie aie.. we're going too far in this... first, Tom, the sash thing
will not generate any "why can't I resize anymore", it's a "sash look"
option, not a "disable sash".. even if it's width is set to 0, the sash is
still there, it's just it's 'reliefed part' that disappears...
and I agree,
Jérôme Gagnon-Voyer wrote:
And I supose that all the options you want to remove from skins will
move inside the preferences?
I didn't say I wanted to remove all the skin settings, I said I thought
that some could be set by user & skin. Small stuff that only 'advanced'
users want could go i
we'll just send prebuilt winks...
also, if the flash has to be signed, then we can't do this, and noone else
can either unless they go through M$.. so maybe there's a website/service
they offer for creating winks after making sure the file doesn't have any
virus or whatever.. maybe you'll fi
ok, sorry I missed this email before answering your previous one..thanks
for answering this (Arieh asking the same question as me:P).. I understand
your point.. little comment : maybe you should have asked on the ML before
taking the decision (you're admin, so you have the *power* to make
d
huumm.. Ithough Thomas added it already, anyways, he requested plugin
devels to send him the plugin directly to his email, if that author didn't
send it to Thomas, then the plugin was not added..
Jerome.. question.. why added it in CVS ?
I though that CVS was just for devels or plugins in deve
If I remember correctly, what they tried first was to add the comments
from one image into another image and see which one was displayed (the
gif, or the ISF from the comments).. so they know about this..
I think what they are saying is "the comments contain some binary data, as
well as some
great idea :)
anyways, no matter what you use, I just think you are right on what you
said, even if it's not used by anyone, the typer should be sent to make
sure our API is complete..
KKRT
On Tue, 24 Jan 2006 18:51:00 -0500, Jérôme Gagnon-Voyer
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
So you don't
lol...
calm damn!! and he just said I shocked him and I should learn to control
myself :P
lol
take it easy please :)
KKRT
On Wed, 25 Jan 2006 15:26:15 -0500, Vivia Nikolaidou
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
On Wed, 25 Jan 2006, Alvaro J. Iradier Muro wrote:
Update of /cvsroot/amsn/msn/lang
On Wed, 25 Jan 2006 17:08:02 -0500, Vivia Nikolaidou
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
On Wed, 25 Jan 2006, Youness Alaoui wrote:
although Vivia seems to hate one-line procs, I would say it's a good
idea...
you see Vivia, a one line proc :
proc hasDp ( user ) {
return [::abook::getContactData
And I supose that all the options you want to remove from skins will move inside the preferences?Simplicity is the key, someone opens aMSN, he doesn't need to start going to preferences to adjust 10 settings that normally skins should take care of. I don't like that. If they really want to change t
cool.. but no matter what, no matter how BIG/BOLD/ITALIC/UNDERLINED you
put it, even with a flashing message popping at amsn startup if plugin is
loaded... anyways, we'll get sutpid n00bs saying "it doesn't work with
MSN" or "are you aware of the plugin having issues with msn users?" or "it
Youness Alaoui wrote:
ohh well, interesting talk.. I though of that and though of having a
message say "do you want your settings to be reverted to the skins'
settnigs" whenever you change the skin, just in case you choose a
skin, and you overrode everything so the skin looks bad, all that
On Wed, 25 Jan 2006, Youness Alaoui wrote:
> although Vivia seems to hate one-line procs, I would say it's a good idea...
> you see Vivia, a one line proc :
> proc hasDp ( user ) {
> return [::abook::getContactData $user displaypicfile ""] != ""
> }
You missed it... I just purged saved displa
although Vivia seems to hate one-line procs, I would say it's a good
idea...
you see Vivia, a one line proc :
proc hasDp ( user ) {
return [::abook::getContactData $user displaypicfile ""] != ""
}
yes, a one line proc, but then you would have only searched for "dp" in
abook.tcl and found
ohh well, interesting talk.. I though of that and though of having a
message say "do you want your settings to be reverted to the skins'
settnigs" whenever you change the skin, just in case you choose a skin,
and you overrode everything so the skin looks bad, all that because you
didn't thi
This is what I suggested to Vivia, only, she's lost, so I'm sending it
over here in case someone understands what Imean, I'll look at it tomorrow
I guess ...
label -image [getBuddyForUser $user_login $state]
proc getBuddyForUser { user state } {
if { config:getKey DP_in_CL == 1 } {
return
Tom Jenkins wrote:
a skin option won't goive the skinner this if it's going to be
overridden by a skin option.
Sorry, here I meant "a skin option won't give the skinner this if it's
going to be overriden by what the user chooses"
Now, I can kinda understand if this was a setting relating
I know I talked to Youness briefly about this before, but what the hell is the
point of having an option that both the user and the skin can set??? The skinner
shouldn't care whether display pictures or little fat buddy pixmaps are shown on
the contactlist, it's the user that cares. The ski
> > if { [::abook::getContactData $user_login displaypicfile ""] != "" }
> >
> > Youness... don't make things complicated :P
> >
>
> what complicated ?? that's what I told you to do!!! :'(
> well, I said it after I gave you a similar solution (::abook::getVolatileData
> $user_login msnobj)
I h
On Wed, 25 Jan 2006 13:41:14 -0500, Vivia Nikolaidou
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
On Wed, 25 Jan 2006, Vivia Nikolaidou wrote:
> TO-DO: 1) fallback to default buddy icon if no DP available 2) detect
if
> the user has changed the DP
How can I check if a user has a DP set? I mean, apart fro
On Wed, 25 Jan 2006, Alvaro J. Iradier Muro wrote:
> Update of /cvsroot/amsn/msn/lang
> In directory sc8-pr-cvs1.sourceforge.net:/tmp/cvs-serv14624
>
> Modified Files:
> langes
> Log Message:
> Fucking translators, they keep on fucking the spanish translation I
> already made. Please stop
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Vivia Nikolaidou wrote:
>> TO-DO: 1) fallback to default buddy icon if no DP available 2) detect if
>> the user has changed the DP
>
> How can I check if a user has a DP set? I mean, apart from comparing the
> data of the DP with the data of getNoDP
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Le Philousophe - Phil wrote:
> Well,
> it's really simple : what is an ink ?
> a set of dots tied each others...
> So in ISF you have dots and parameters of the lines...
> That's all.
> The name let me think of a system called Serialization in C++ : op
Well,
it's really simple : what is an ink ?
a set of dots tied each others...
So in ISF you have dots and parameters of the lines...
That's all.
The name let me think of a system called Serialization in C++ : operator <<
I think it loops on each line and do a << and each line in this operator do a
On Wed, 25 Jan 2006, Vivia Nikolaidou wrote:
>
> > TO-DO: 1) fallback to default buddy icon if no DP available 2) detect if
> > the user has changed the DP
>
> How can I check if a user has a DP set? I mean, apart from comparing the
> data of the DP with the data of getNoDP... :D
>
if { [::a
> TO-DO: 1) fallback to default buddy icon if no DP available 2) detect if
> the user has changed the DP
How can I check if a user has a DP set? I mean, apart from comparing the
data of the DP with the data of getNoDP... :D
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This SF.net e
SORRY Jonne, SORRY! :( I did manage to forget to give you credits on the
commit! :(
But it was like my dad coming with the vacuum cleaner "you have to get up
now", right when I started typing "cvs commit", so I told him "wait a
moment, let me finish typing this" and I realized as soon as I got
It's just a small detail but I just said it so you can keep it in mind ;-)Le 25 janvier 2006 à 11:21, Jonne Zutt a écrit :Ok you mean at sf's plugin tracker. Ah, silly me... I can of course just close the whole thing and recreate a new one. Then I can write a new summary. I will do that soon.
Ok you mean at sf's plugin tracker.
Ah, silly me...
I can of course just close the whole thing and recreate a new
one. Then I can write a new summary.
I will do that soon.
JeeBee.
> In the page you ask for people for download, I know it's clear inside
> plugininfo.xml, but not on the web.
> Le
Yes we decided that a long time ago and it sucks...
By example, when we change code in aMSN and it affects plugin, we
just have to grep on all plugins in CVS and modify everything at the
same time (we did that a lot of time), but if the plugin is not on
CVS...the plugin lost compatibility.
What a mess, you're right. I have noticed that the MSN reads the ISF part, if
the user have Journal Viewer. Now, we have to discover how the ISF are
made...
One thing we can observe is that ISF format needs less space to represent the
GIF. Now I enumerate things we can supose about ISF format:
In the page you ask for people for download, I know it's clear inside plugininfo.xml, but not on the web.Le 25 janvier 2006 à 03:44, Jonne Zutt a écrit : It already says so in plugin description (plugininfo.xml). Where more do you want to see it? If you would try to invite an ms-msn person, you'll
Vivia Nikolaidou wrote:
Thanx Karel!
Does it really slow down your cl that much? :S Mine is still very fast!
Now there's just the option about the picture's size - Jerome said M$N has
many options for the size, can anyone with M$N tell me what there is? Or
leave just 22 as default (same as b
Hi all,
In addition ...
I think we have to look at others how to organize this.
I foresee a growth in the number of plugins. They should be
categorized I think. Maybe by adding (a list of) keywords to
plugininfo.xml?
Something like this: (firefox extensions)
https://addons.mozilla.org/extensions/
Hey guys,
While reading the organize received plugin thread, i was thinking, is
there any way we could have a clean list (maybe a text file) of all
the skins and plugins, not in the cvs, on the website? This way it
would be easier to upgrade all of the stuff with a simple piece of
code instead of h
Was there a reason you put it into cvs? Didn't we decide that we would only
put plugins written by developers into cvs, and the rest would just have the
zip on the website?
Lio.
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From: "Jérôme Gagnon-Voyer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "aMSN"
Cc: "Nilton Volpato" <[EMAIL
Now that its already added I can't see the problem with leaving it there,
maybe just fix up the creation of the images.
I ran some timing tests to see the difference, with the images shown it took
883750 microseconds (0.9 sec) to refresh, and without the images it took
688647 microseconds (0.7 sec
We resolved the situation, and no, he's not going to attack the new
forums. He respects our work and is moving on to other things in his
life.
~Lee
On 1/25/06, Lz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> What happened with yves then? maybe he tries to attack the new forums...
>
>
> On 1/25/06, Vivia Nikolai
In my (anon) cvs now I see this in gui.tcl (line 36 and 5590):
::skin::setKey show_contactdps_in_cl 0
if {[::config::getKey show_contactdps_in_cl] == "1"} {
So, it sets a skin key, and it gets a config key.
Cannot make up my mind really ... I think it should be a
skin key !
And my local ver
I started this message earlier but didnt get a chance to finish it. I was
going to say something along similar lines. Here is the start and I will
also finish it (so below 'this code' refers to the commit):
The major problem with this code is that you recreate all the images every
reload of the co
Thanx Karel!
Does it really slow down your cl that much? :S Mine is still very fast!
Now there's just the option about the picture's size - Jerome said M$N has
many options for the size, can anyone with M$N tell me what there is? Or
leave just 22 as default (same as buddy's height on default s
What happened with yves then? maybe he tries to attack the new forums...On 1/25/06, Vivia Nikolaidou <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:For those who are not subscribed to the forums:They are moved to
http://amsn.sourceforge.net/forums/I sent a mass email to notify everyone who is subscribed, but I also n
> Does it really slow down your cl that much? :S Mine is still very fast!
Mine too, and yes, at least I like this feature :P
> Also, can anyone think of a way to make it faster?
I was thinking about this.
What we don't want is "image create" and "resize" each time.
So, if it is done, store its
Does anyone actually want this feature or shall I just go ahead and remove
it? :)
Personally, I don't go crazy about it, I think I'll just disable it
anyway, it's just that many users were requesting it and Lee had started
working on it already. But, if everyone dislikes it, I just remove the
Hi Jérôme,
> You should specify that your plugin is not compatible with MSN users
> because I know we will get a lot of messages "the games plugins is
> not working with my friends on windows" or something like that.
It already says so in plugin description (plugininfo.xml).
Where more do you
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