Re: [Amsn-devel] news: live messenger now connected to yahoo.

2006-07-16 Thread Harry Vennik
Ooops, sorry!!! Quoting the first post in there, from mario: --- BEGIN OF QUOTE --- And once again the people at microsoft amaze me with the speed they come up with new protocols. Lately it's been an average of 3 protocols if not more... As i was checking by mistake the new windows live

Re: [Amsn-devel] news: live messenger now connected to yahoo.

2006-07-16 Thread Youness Alaoui
Ok, thank you both for the information!!! In that case, I'm not afraid about MSNP14, someone said in the previous post that it was completely different, I do not think so, for many reasons : 1 - the client supports MSNP14 BEFORE the server supports it, which means no beta was released with

Re: [Amsn-devel] news: live messenger now connected to yahoo.

2006-07-16 Thread Harry Vennik
So this makes me think that we should not care about MSNP14 for the moment, let us implement MSNP13 in the libmsn project, then once it's complete, tested, and working, then we can upgrade it to MSNP14... in the same way, if we implement MSNP14, then someday MSNP15 will be out and we'll have

Re: [Amsn-devel] news: live messenger now connected to yahoo.

2006-07-16 Thread Youness Alaoui
Yeah I know, what I meant was make sure the design is forwad compatible, if not, the next design draft should be KKRT On Sun, Jul 16, 2006 at 08:23:04PM +0200, Harry Vennik wrote: So this makes me think that we should not care about MSNP14 for the moment, let us implement MSNP13 in the

Re: [Amsn-devel] news: live messenger now connected to yahoo.

2006-07-15 Thread Youness Alaoui
Humm.. that would be interesting, but MSNP14 is not yet available, not yet complete... right ? or is it that yahoo interop is already available so MSNP14 is also available ? personnally, I think it's a server side modification that allows MSNP13 to support yahoo interop. and btw, offline

Re: [Amsn-devel] news: live messenger now connected to yahoo.

2006-07-15 Thread Harry Vennik
http://forums.fanatic.net.nz/index.php?showtopic=15741 Op zaterdag 15 juli 2006 18:56, schreef Youness Alaoui: Humm.. that would be interesting, but MSNP14 is not yet available, not yet complete... right ? or is it that yahoo interop is already available so MSNP14 is also available ?

Re: [Amsn-devel] news: live messenger now connected to yahoo.

2006-07-15 Thread Youness Alaoui
damn you! I can't access/see that.. which is also the reason why I can't read the MSNP13 document.. My PC is dead and I won't get a new one until next week.. all I can do now with this PC is use mutt in a console to see my mails (and have a non-accessible VNC server running with amsn) so a

Re: [Amsn-devel] news: live messenger now connected to yahoo.

2006-07-14 Thread Madd Matt
Although I haven't looked into it personally, I have been told by the developer of Bot2k3 that we need to use MSNP14 to connect to the MSN servers in order to use Yahoo Interop. I am yet to do any protocol sniffs personally but apparently its considerably different from MSNP13. Personally I'm in