Re: [Analytics] Please add Chinese Wikiversity into the WikiStats database
> > Thanks for your replies! However, I have few more questions to ask for. > Sorry! No problem! :] > You have mentioned that the analytics team is about to abandon the > original WikiStats website. Is that means even if you successfully update > the database (or pipelines), the data will still not be shown in WikiStats > 1? Correct, we are from now on giving only critical maintenance to WikiStats1. So, even if we update the Analytics pipeline, no new data will be available in WikiStats1. Secondly, what I (and the community) need is just basic statistics (of > course, EVERY categories included in WikiStat 1 will be much better). Understand. I would suggest that, mid February, you check WikiStats2 (and Analytics Query Service) for Chinese Wikiversity and determine what stats are missing for you. Then you could make us know, and we would take that into account when developing new features for WikiStats2. Finally, if you finish the improvements, will the data dated before the > improvements (ex. 2018-08) also be visible? Yes, we should be able to calculate editing metrics since the beginning of wiki-time. Cheers! On Fri, Jan 11, 2019 at 5:36 AM Eric Liu wrote: > Thanks for your replies! However, I have few more questions to ask for. > Sorry! > > You have mentioned that the analytics team is about to abandon the > original WikiStats website. Is that means even if you successfully update > the database (or pipelines), the data will still not be shown in WikiStats > 1? > > Secondly, what I (and the community) need is just basic statistics (of > course, EVERY categories included in WikiStat 1 will be much better). > > Finally, if you finish the improvements, will the data dated before the > improvements (ex. 2018-08) also be visible? > > Thanks for your help! > > Marcel Ruiz Forns 於 2019年1月11日 週五，02:36寫道： > >> If the analytics team add the data of Chinese Wikiversity into the >>> database (base source), will WikiStats and WikiStats 2 both get updated? If >>> not, then what can I do to fix it? >> >> >> The data is already present in the initial wiki databases, but was not >> being pulled by the Analytics pipeline that generates stats for WikiStats2. >> Thanks to your heads-up, we already fixed that, see: >> https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T213290. However, it will only reflect >> in WikiStats2 after the next round of data loading, which will take place >> between the 5th and 10th of next month (Feb 2019). >> >> (Although WikiStats 2 has more advanced interface, it’s still in >>> development (not stable enough), and the original WikiStats website has a >>> much simpler interface to navigate and collect raw data. Yet, I prefer to >>> use WikiStats 1 than WikiStats 2 as the reference for statistics.) >> >> >> Yes, WikiStats2 is under development and will be for a while. We're >> adding WikiStats1 functionalities to it as time allows. Unfortunately, >> we're not actively working on WikiStats1 new features any more, only on >> fixing critical errors. Now, if you're looking for raw data (as opposed of >> data visualization), the Analytics API that I mentioned in my first reply >> (Analytics Query Service) might have what you want (next month). Also, if >> you want to tell us exactly what data are you looking for, we might be able >> to help you get it; or in case we don't have it available yet, it will aid >> us in determining which features should we add next to WikiStats2 in the >> upcoming months. >> >> Cheers! >> >> On Thu, Jan 10, 2019 at 4:28 PM Eric Liu wrote: >> >>> Thanks for your initial answer. One more question please. (Orz) >>> >>> If the analytics team add the data of Chinese Wikiversity into the >>> database (base source), will WikiStats and WikiStats 2 both get updated? If >>> not, then what can I do to fix it? >>> >>> (Although WikiStats 2 has more advanced interface, it’s still in >>> development (not stable enough), and the original WikiStats website has a >>> much simpler interface to navigate and collect raw data. Yet, I prefer to >>> use WikiStats 1 than WikiStats 2 as the reference for statistics.) >>> >>> Again, thanks for your precious answer! It’s really helpful for both me >>> and the Chinese Wikiversity community. >>> >>> Marcel Ruiz Forns 於 2019年1月10日 週四，23:09寫道： >>> [adding back analytics list to recipients] Hi Eric! Are WikiStats 1 and WikiStats 2’s database the same? Although the initial source of data is the same for both WikiStats1 and Wikistats2 (the wiki databases), WikiStats1 and WikiStats2 pull data from different pipelines. WikiStats1 independently computes metrics monthly and stores them in static html files, which then are served as stats.wikimedia.org. WikiStats2 is a serving layer on top of the Analytics data pipeline. It pulls data from Analytics Query Service[1], the stats API maintained by us (Analytics team). It's a public service, so you can query it freely. See manuals[2][3][4].
Re: [Analytics] Please add Chinese Wikiversity into the WikiStats database
> > If the analytics team add the data of Chinese Wikiversity into the > database (base source), will WikiStats and WikiStats 2 both get updated? If > not, then what can I do to fix it? The data is already present in the initial wiki databases, but was not being pulled by the Analytics pipeline that generates stats for WikiStats2. Thanks to your heads-up, we already fixed that, see: https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T213290. However, it will only reflect in WikiStats2 after the next round of data loading, which will take place between the 5th and 10th of next month (Feb 2019). (Although WikiStats 2 has more advanced interface, it’s still in > development (not stable enough), and the original WikiStats website has a > much simpler interface to navigate and collect raw data. Yet, I prefer to > use WikiStats 1 than WikiStats 2 as the reference for statistics.) Yes, WikiStats2 is under development and will be for a while. We're adding WikiStats1 functionalities to it as time allows. Unfortunately, we're not actively working on WikiStats1 new features any more, only on fixing critical errors. Now, if you're looking for raw data (as opposed of data visualization), the Analytics API that I mentioned in my first reply (Analytics Query Service) might have what you want (next month). Also, if you want to tell us exactly what data are you looking for, we might be able to help you get it; or in case we don't have it available yet, it will aid us in determining which features should we add next to WikiStats2 in the upcoming months. Cheers! On Thu, Jan 10, 2019 at 4:28 PM Eric Liu wrote: > Thanks for your initial answer. One more question please. (Orz) > > If the analytics team add the data of Chinese Wikiversity into the > database (base source), will WikiStats and WikiStats 2 both get updated? If > not, then what can I do to fix it? > > (Although WikiStats 2 has more advanced interface, it’s still in > development (not stable enough), and the original WikiStats website has a > much simpler interface to navigate and collect raw data. Yet, I prefer to > use WikiStats 1 than WikiStats 2 as the reference for statistics.) > > Again, thanks for your precious answer! It’s really helpful for both me > and the Chinese Wikiversity community. > > Marcel Ruiz Forns 於 2019年1月10日 週四，23:09寫道： > >> [adding back analytics list to recipients] >> >> Hi Eric! >> >> Are WikiStats 1 and WikiStats 2’s database the same? >> >> >> Although the initial source of data is the same for both WikiStats1 and >> Wikistats2 (the wiki databases), WikiStats1 and WikiStats2 pull data from >> different pipelines. WikiStats1 independently computes metrics monthly and >> stores them in static html files, which then are served as >> stats.wikimedia.org. WikiStats2 is a serving layer on top of the >> Analytics data pipeline. It pulls data from Analytics Query Service[1], the >> stats API maintained by us (Analytics team). It's a public service, so you >> can query it freely. See manuals[2][3][4]. Note that in most cases data >> from WikiStats1 matches data from WikiStats2, but some metrics can slightly >> differ for technical reasons. >> >> And, is WikiScan a part of WikiStats? >> >> >> No, I think WikiScan is a completely separate tool, though it probably >> shares the same initial source of data than the WikiStats siblings. >> >> [1] https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/wiki/Analytics/Systems/AQS >> [2] https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/wiki/Analytics/AQS/Pageviews >> [3] https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/wiki/Analytics/AQS/Wikistats_2 >> [4] https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/wiki/Analytics/AQS/Unique_Devices >> >> On Thu, Jan 10, 2019 at 10:34 AM Eric Liu wrote: >> >>> Are WikiStats 1 and WikiStats 2’s database the same? And, is WikiScan a >>> part of WikiStats? >>> >>> Thanks for your help! >>> >>> Marcel Ruiz Forns 於 2019年1月9日 週三，23:34寫道： >>> [Adding Eric Liu to the recipient list, because he is not yet subscribed to the list] Hi Eric! Thank you for the heads up. We will work on fixing that. You can follow the progress of this task here: https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T213290 BTW, please subscribe to the list here, so that you messages do not get blocked for moderation. Also, you will be able to receive all replies to your message. Thanks! Cheers On Wed, Jan 9, 2019 at 4:26 PM Eric Liu wrote: > The Chinese Wikiversity project had been launched for several months, > and it already has over 700 learning resources, surpassing Swedish > Wikiversity and Korean Wikiversity, which shows that the project has a > stable community. > > However, the WikiStats website hasn’t been updated yet, which makes > the community difficult to track the data. > > Please add Chinese Wikiversity into the WikiStats database as soon as > possible. We need, and will appreciate your help. > > Sincerely, >Eric Liu (User:Ericliu1912) from
Re: [Analytics] Please add Chinese Wikiversity into the WikiStats database
[adding back analytics list to recipients] Hi Eric! Are WikiStats 1 and WikiStats 2’s database the same? Although the initial source of data is the same for both WikiStats1 and Wikistats2 (the wiki databases), WikiStats1 and WikiStats2 pull data from different pipelines. WikiStats1 independently computes metrics monthly and stores them in static html files, which then are served as stats.wikimedia.org. WikiStats2 is a serving layer on top of the Analytics data pipeline. It pulls data from Analytics Query Service[1], the stats API maintained by us (Analytics team). It's a public service, so you can query it freely. See manuals[2][3][4]. Note that in most cases data from WikiStats1 matches data from WikiStats2, but some metrics can slightly differ for technical reasons. And, is WikiScan a part of WikiStats? No, I think WikiScan is a completely separate tool, though it probably shares the same initial source of data than the WikiStats siblings. [1] https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/wiki/Analytics/Systems/AQS [2] https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/wiki/Analytics/AQS/Pageviews [3] https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/wiki/Analytics/AQS/Wikistats_2 [4] https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/wiki/Analytics/AQS/Unique_Devices On Thu, Jan 10, 2019 at 10:34 AM Eric Liu wrote: > Are WikiStats 1 and WikiStats 2’s database the same? And, is WikiScan a > part of WikiStats? > > Thanks for your help! > > Marcel Ruiz Forns 於 2019年1月9日 週三，23:34寫道： > >> [Adding Eric Liu to the recipient list, because he is not yet subscribed >> to the list] >> >> Hi Eric! >> >> Thank you for the heads up. We will work on fixing that. >> You can follow the progress of this task here: >> https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T213290 >> >> BTW, please subscribe to the list here, so that you messages do not get >> blocked for moderation. >> Also, you will be able to receive all replies to your message. Thanks! >> >> Cheers >> >> On Wed, Jan 9, 2019 at 4:26 PM Eric Liu wrote: >> >>> The Chinese Wikiversity project had been launched for several months, >>> and it already has over 700 learning resources, surpassing Swedish >>> Wikiversity and Korean Wikiversity, which shows that the project has a >>> stable community. >>> >>> However, the WikiStats website hasn’t been updated yet, which makes the >>> community difficult to track the data. >>> >>> Please add Chinese Wikiversity into the WikiStats database as soon as >>> possible. We need, and will appreciate your help. >>> >>> Sincerely, >>>Eric Liu (User:Ericliu1912) from Chinese Wikiversity >>> >> -- >>> 劉洺辰 敬上 >>> Sincerely, Eric Liu >>> ___ >>> Analytics mailing list >>> Analytics@lists.wikimedia.org >>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/analytics >>> >> >> >> -- >> *Marcel Ruiz Forns** (he/him)* >> Analytics Developer @ Wikimedia Foundation >> > -- > 劉洺辰 敬上 > Sincerely, Eric Liu > -- *Marcel Ruiz Forns** (he/him)* Analytics Developer @ Wikimedia Foundation ___ Analytics mailing list Analytics@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/analytics
Re: [Analytics] Please add Chinese Wikiversity into the WikiStats database
[Adding Eric Liu to the recipient list, because he is not yet subscribed to the list] Hi Eric! Thank you for the heads up. We will work on fixing that. You can follow the progress of this task here: https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T213290 BTW, please subscribe to the list here, so that you messages do not get blocked for moderation. Also, you will be able to receive all replies to your message. Thanks! Cheers On Wed, Jan 9, 2019 at 4:26 PM Eric Liu wrote: > The Chinese Wikiversity project had been launched for several months, and > it already has over 700 learning resources, surpassing Swedish Wikiversity > and Korean Wikiversity, which shows that the project has a stable > community. > > However, the WikiStats website hasn’t been updated yet, which makes the > community difficult to track the data. > > Please add Chinese Wikiversity into the WikiStats database as soon as > possible. We need, and will appreciate your help. > > Sincerely, >Eric Liu (User:Ericliu1912) from Chinese Wikiversity > -- > 劉洺辰 敬上 > Sincerely, Eric Liu > ___ > Analytics mailing list > Analytics@lists.wikimedia.org > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/analytics > -- *Marcel Ruiz Forns** (he/him)* Analytics Developer @ Wikimedia Foundation ___ Analytics mailing list Analytics@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/analytics
[Analytics] Please add Chinese Wikiversity into the WikiStats database
The Chinese Wikiversity project had been launched for several months, and it already has over 700 learning resources, surpassing Swedish Wikiversity and Korean Wikiversity, which shows that the project has a stable community. However, the WikiStats website hasn’t been updated yet, which makes the community difficult to track the data. Please add Chinese Wikiversity into the WikiStats database as soon as possible. We need, and will appreciate your help. Sincerely, Eric Liu (User:Ericliu1912) from Chinese Wikiversity -- 劉洺辰 敬上 Sincerely, Eric Liu ___ Analytics mailing list Analytics@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/analytics
