[android-developers] Re: My Eclipse 3.5 always lag and have to force close - why?

2010-08-05 Thread Bob Kerns
OK. I'm not 100% certain that the command line will take precedence over the eclipse.ini. You might want to edit the -Xmx512m there. Except that with a drive letter like L:, I'm surmising that you're running it from a network share? This may cause some significant performance problems, and is not

[android-developers] Re: My Eclipse 3.5 always lag and have to force close - why?

2010-08-05 Thread Kaj Bjurman
It is taking precedence. Setting it to e.g. 2000M (using a 32 bit VM) stops Eclipse from starting stating the normal could not create Java virtual machine. No, L: is a local disk. :) Yes, 381.500 kB is about 381 MB . The 32 bit VM on my OS can create a VM with more than 1GB as Xmx, the limit is

[android-developers] Re: My Eclipse 3.5 always lag and have to force close - why?

2010-08-05 Thread Kaj Bjurman
Btw. I'm actually not sure that the problem really is an out of memory exception. Yes, the log says so, but I think it's caused by an other unhandled exception, and then something is catching that exception and throws an out of memory exception. Don't know why, but that is a hunch that I get.

Re: [android-developers] Re: My Eclipse 3.5 always lag and have to force close - why?

2010-08-04 Thread Jonas Petersson
I'll have to explicitly 100% agree with Bob here: Until around mid May I was using the previous model MacBookPro with 4GB dual core (and Ubuntu) for my Android development and after a fair amount of tweaking I could barely run Eclipse for a week. After switching to the new MacBookPro with

[android-developers] Re: My Eclipse 3.5 always lag and have to force close - why?

2010-08-04 Thread Mystique
I think there's some memory leak issue if editing XML files. I realise if I only open .java it is ok. So maybe a temp work around is to edit xml file with editor and open only .java in eclipse? On Aug 4, 10:17 am, Doug beafd...@gmail.com wrote: The issue isn't what else is running on the

Re: [android-developers] Re: My Eclipse 3.5 always lag and have to force close - why?

2010-08-04 Thread Jonas Petersson
I may be kicking in open doors here, but have you tried this old stuff? http://www.luisdelarosa.com/2005/04/03/how-to-get-better-memory-settings-for-eclipse-on-mac-os-x/ For me (Ubuntu - see previous post for details) this worked fairly OK on my old 4GB system: eclipse -Xmx150m This

Re: [android-developers] Re: My Eclipse 3.5 always lag and have to force close - why?

2010-08-04 Thread Kostya Vasilyev
This looks likely. I can run Eclipse all day on a 4G Windows 64bit machine, but I edit my layouts by hand, without the visual editor. -- Kostya 04.08.2010 11:00, Mystique пишет: I think there's some memory leak issue if editing XML files. I realise if I only open .java it is ok. So maybe a

Re: [android-developers] Re: My Eclipse 3.5 always lag and have to force close - why?

2010-08-04 Thread Jonas Petersson
Ah, I think I can relate to that statement: for 95+% of the XML editing I referred to I used Eclipse itself, but like Kostya I stayed mostly in the XML view, only an occasional glance at the graphical layout since (at least for my cases) I decided the visual layout could not really be trusted.

[android-developers] Re: My Eclipse 3.5 always lag and have to force close - why?

2010-08-04 Thread objectuser
Here are the settings I changed in my eclipse.ini after encountering this problem: -vm /System/Library/Frameworks/JavaVM.framework/Versions/1.6.0/Home/bin/ java -vmargs -Dosgi.requiredJavaVersion=1.6 -XX:MaxPermSize=256m -Xms1024m -Xmx1024m I can code all day long and leave Eclipse open for a

[android-developers] Re: My Eclipse 3.5 always lag and have to force close - why?

2010-08-04 Thread Kaj Bjurman
I think it was stated previously in this thread. The problem isn't Eclipse. The problem is the Android plugin. I'm using Eclipse more than 8h per day at work, and I don't have any problems there (I'm not doing any Android development at work). I can also use Eclipse at home without any problems if

Re: [android-developers] Re: My Eclipse 3.5 always lag and have to force close - why?

2010-08-04 Thread Jonas Petersson
On 08/04/2010 05:00 PM, Kaj Bjurman wrote: I think it was stated previously in this thread. The problem isn't Eclipse. The problem is the Android plugin. I would agree on that one, I use Eclipse for Flex and although there are other kinds of issues there, the Andorid plugins appears to be the

[android-developers] Re: My Eclipse 3.5 always lag and have to force close - why?

2010-08-04 Thread DanH
The Eclipse UI editor for Qt (which is similarly XML based) exhibits similar behavior -- some things you can do OK, but certain complex operations crash the editor (and sometimes Eclipse) with fair regularity. You learn to save your layouts frequently. Re poor performance in general, folks with

[android-developers] Re: My Eclipse 3.5 always lag and have to force close - why?

2010-08-04 Thread Kaj Bjurman
I just provoked my Eclipse again, just to see what the error message is. I remembered it as out of handles, but that was a bit wrong. I checked the process in the task manager when it was in the error state. It isn't out of memory, and it's probably not out of handles. The CPUs are also idle, so

[android-developers] Re: My Eclipse 3.5 always lag and have to force close - why?

2010-08-04 Thread Bob Kerns
OK, this is good information. You are, in fact, running out of memory -- somehow. I've see this, but seldom as performance starts to suck for me long before. How exactly are you allocating memory for Java? How are you starting Eclipse? And when you were checking how much memory Eclipse was

Re: [android-developers] Re: My Eclipse 3.5 always lag and have to force close - why?

2010-08-04 Thread Shane Isbell
I just say 'Serenity Now' and count to 10. The layout file usually opens by that point. On Wed, Aug 4, 2010 at 6:44 PM, Bob Kerns r...@acm.org wrote: OK, this is good information. You are, in fact, running out of memory -- somehow. I've see this, but seldom as performance starts to suck for

[android-developers] Re: My Eclipse 3.5 always lag and have to force close - why?

2010-08-04 Thread Kaj Bjurman
Eclipse is started using a shortcut: Galileo L:\eclipse-jee-galileo-win32\eclipse\eclipse.exe -vmargs -Xmx1324m Ganymede L:\eclipse\eclipse.exe -vmargs -Xmx1324m (I'm having the same problem in both) eclipse.ini says: --launcher.library

[android-developers] Re: My Eclipse 3.5 always lag and have to force close - why?

2010-08-04 Thread Kaj Bjurman
(And the workspace is using 1.5.0_19) On 5 Aug, 03:44, Bob Kerns r...@acm.org wrote: OK, this is good information. You are, in fact, running out of memory -- somehow. I've see this, but seldom as performance starts to suck for me long before. How exactly are you allocating memory for Java?

[android-developers] Re: My Eclipse 3.5 always lag and have to force close - why?

2010-08-03 Thread Bob Kerns
It's long been my opinion that the minimum development environment should be 8 GB, quad core. And, ideally, solid-state disks. Definitely *NOT* a 5200 RPM or slower hard drive! Ever! I run on a 4GB, dual core laptop, SATA 7200 RPM hard drive. But I've also run on 8 GB, quad core, and know what a

[android-developers] Re: My Eclipse 3.5 always lag and have to force close - why?

2010-08-03 Thread Doug
The issue isn't what else is running on the computer. The issue is that Eclipse gets into an unrecoverable state where it lags horribly when switching between editors, at least on OSX. I can typically go 5 or 6 hours of steady use (more with intermittent use) until that state kicks in for me

[android-developers] Re: My Eclipse 3.5 always lag and have to force close - why?

2010-08-03 Thread objectuser
Doug, I'm surprised you can go for 5 or 6 hours. It grinds to a halt for me in less than an hour. But I guess it depends on what you're doing (Java vs resources). But I'll echo what you said: it's not that the IDE is generally slow, it's something else that is chewing up resources. It's not

[android-developers] Re: My Eclipse 3.5 always lag and have to force close - why?

2010-08-03 Thread Bob Kerns
You missed my point, so let me try to make it more clearly. I wasn't absolving the IDE of blame. I'm saying it interacts with the other offenders, if you have them. So if you have a bloated Firefox, for example, the IDE will start to flail much earlier. In that case, you can buy some time (but

[android-developers] Re: My Eclipse 3.5 always lag and have to force close - why?

2010-08-03 Thread objectuser
So everyone has this issue and they just deal with it? I'm amazed to find such a productivity killer in a platform that's been out for a couple of years. I'm hoping we are simply unenlightened and someone will stop by with an easy fix. :) I'm on OS X, 4GB RAM, core 2 duo, btw, using some

[android-developers] Re: My Eclipse 3.5 always lag and have to force close - why?

2010-08-03 Thread Mystique
Hi, you mean in OSX is the same thing? On Aug 3, 10:51 pm, objectuser kevin.k.le...@gmail.com wrote: So everyone has this issue and they just deal with it?  I'm amazed to find such a productivity killer in a platform that's been out for a couple of years.  I'm hoping we are simply

[android-developers] Re: My Eclipse 3.5 always lag and have to force close - why?

2010-08-03 Thread objectuser
Yes, same issue for me. I need to restart Eclipse every few minutes if I don't want to wait 10s to switch between Java files, etc. On Aug 3, 10:08 am, Mystique joven.ch...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, you mean in OSX is the same thing? On Aug 3, 10:51 pm, objectuser kevin.k.le...@gmail.com wrote:

Re: [android-developers] Re: My Eclipse 3.5 always lag and have to force close - why?

2010-08-03 Thread Adal
Doesn't happen to me. Ubuntu Lucid, AMD Phenom II X4 945, 4GB RAM. Emulator is slow when booting, but nothing else (I have to say that my projects are tiny). On Tue, Aug 3, 2010 at 5:32 PM, objectuser kevin.k.le...@gmail.com wrote: Yes, same issue for me. I need to restart Eclipse every few

[android-developers] Re: My Eclipse 3.5 always lag and have to force close - why?

2010-07-30 Thread Kaj Bjurman
It has unfortunately been like that for ages (if you are modifying e.g. layout files). It doesn't happen if you only write code. It looks like the Android plugin is leaking resources, and fast. On 30 Juli, 13:22, Mystique joven.ch...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I'm on Win7 32-bit with 4GB RAM. Why

[android-developers] Re: My Eclipse 3.5 always lag and have to force close - why?

2010-07-30 Thread Mystique
I see. I thought I'm the only one... Yes, I look at the log and so many memory leak error... On Jul 30, 8:55 pm, Kaj Bjurman kaj.bjur...@gmail.com wrote: It has unfortunately been like that for ages (if you are modifying e.g. layout files). It doesn't happen if you only write code. It looks