[android-developers] Re: KSoap - How to pass a dataset to a dotNet webservice?
This web service is used by several services (dotNet applications and iPhone) and therefore cannot be changed, also the dataset parameter is sensible for the purpose. I have decided to create a wrapper function in the web service that accepts in a string representation of the dataset, this function will then create the dataset from the xml string and then call the original service. its just a shame that KSoap cannot handle this. Thanks Dave 2009/10/21 gjs garyjamessi...@gmail.com Hi, Or modify the webservice to accept something more sensible... Regards On Oct 20, 7:45 pm, Dave Gracie david.gra...@gmail.com wrote: Thats actually the first thing I tried. I passed in the ms soap version of the dataset but still didnt work. I think I only have one option and that is to build up the soap request (xml) manually and post it myself, removing teh need for KSoap. 2009/10/19 gjs garyjamessi...@gmail.com Hi again, You could reverse engineer this to some extent by generating a proxy for a client of the webservice then use ,something like wire shark to monitor/capture what is passed between the client and the webservice. I guess it might be an xml representation of the Dataset that gets passed. You can facilitate this if you have an instance of a Dataset by outputing/saving itself in XML format. This would all be done in a .net environment. After this you could work out what an android implementation of a client would need to pass and whether ksoap can help. As you probably know a ms Dataset is a heavy weight representation of a database or partial database including a schema definition, an object that cannot be 'instantiated' in java, which is generally used in a homogeneous .net environment. Webservices like a lot of other things suffer a Microsoft implementation and other open source implementations which are by (ms) design deliberately incompatible... Regards On Oct 19, 10:47 pm, Dave Gracie david.gra...@gmail.com wrote: I might try emailing the guy who did the android ksoap port directly. the second parameter is just the value of the parameter. My issue is what structure / format should that value be to correctly send a dataset. Thanks for the help. Dave 2009/10/19 konic nflous...@gmail.com You may try to ask this question directly to the android port of ksoap (http://code.google.com/p/ksoap2-android/) Next, if you look in ksoap2 docs ( http://ksoap2.sourceforge.net/doc/ api/org/ksoap2/serialization/SoapObject.html http://ksoap2.sourceforge.net/doc/%0Aapi/org/ksoap2/serialization/Soa.. . ) you'll see that in fact second parameter in addProperty() is Object. On 19 окт, 04:56, Dave david.gra...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Thanks for the response. Its not an issue with the webservice as this works fine. the issue is with how I go about creating the ksoap parameter to be passed to the webservice. Simple types suck as strings, ints etc.. are fine. but the complex type of a dataset just isnt as straight forward. I just thought that someone may have had this problem with ksoap before. Thanks Dave On Oct 19, 7:45 am, gjs garyjamessi...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I'd think your asking in the wrong forum, a (microsoft proprietary) Dataset object is usually associated with .net development. Where would your microsoft Dataset object be coming from for you to send it from an android device to a dotnet webservice ? Suggest you try more googling eg - http://www.blackberryforums.com/developer-forum/178964-25-00-someone-. .. http://osdir.com/ml/java.enhydra.ksoap/2003-07/msg9.html Regards On Oct 19, 6:47 am, Dave david.gra...@gmail.com wrote: Folks I know there are quite a few examples of accessing dotnet webservices that return a dataset. I cannot find any examples there the webservice method requires a dataset as a parameter. i.e. dotNet webservice: WebMethod() _ Public Function TestWS(ByVal ds As DataSet) As String Return ds.Tables.Count Tables in dataset End Function I have tried adding the parameter of xml string of the dataset by capturing the http post content of a dotNet web page and extracting the relevant section for the parameter without any success. This included the schema but neither having this there or not made any difference. I have also just tried creating a simple xml structure but still nothing. rpc.addProperty(ds,dst1f1blah/f1/t1/ds); If anyone has any ideas it would be appreciated, I really dont want to go down the route of creating the soap xml and posting it myself. Thanks in
[android-developers] Re: KSoap - How to pass a dataset to a dotNet webservice?
Thats actually the first thing I tried. I passed in the ms soap version of the dataset but still didnt work. I think I only have one option and that is to build up the soap request (xml) manually and post it myself, removing teh need for KSoap. 2009/10/19 gjs garyjamessi...@gmail.com Hi again, You could reverse engineer this to some extent by generating a proxy for a client of the webservice then use ,something like wire shark to monitor/capture what is passed between the client and the webservice. I guess it might be an xml representation of the Dataset that gets passed. You can facilitate this if you have an instance of a Dataset by outputing/saving itself in XML format. This would all be done in a .net environment. After this you could work out what an android implementation of a client would need to pass and whether ksoap can help. As you probably know a ms Dataset is a heavy weight representation of a database or partial database including a schema definition, an object that cannot be 'instantiated' in java, which is generally used in a homogeneous .net environment. Webservices like a lot of other things suffer a Microsoft implementation and other open source implementations which are by (ms) design deliberately incompatible... Regards On Oct 19, 10:47 pm, Dave Gracie david.gra...@gmail.com wrote: I might try emailing the guy who did the android ksoap port directly. the second parameter is just the value of the parameter. My issue is what structure / format should that value be to correctly send a dataset. Thanks for the help. Dave 2009/10/19 konic nflous...@gmail.com You may try to ask this question directly to the android port of ksoap (http://code.google.com/p/ksoap2-android/) Next, if you look in ksoap2 docs (http://ksoap2.sourceforge.net/doc/ api/org/ksoap2/serialization/SoapObject.html http://ksoap2.sourceforge.net/doc/%0Aapi/org/ksoap2/serialization/Soa... ) you'll see that in fact second parameter in addProperty() is Object. On 19 окт, 04:56, Dave david.gra...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Thanks for the response. Its not an issue with the webservice as this works fine. the issue is with how I go about creating the ksoap parameter to be passed to the webservice. Simple types suck as strings, ints etc.. are fine. but the complex type of a dataset just isnt as straight forward. I just thought that someone may have had this problem with ksoap before. Thanks Dave On Oct 19, 7:45 am, gjs garyjamessi...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I'd think your asking in the wrong forum, a (microsoft proprietary) Dataset object is usually associated with .net development. Where would your microsoft Dataset object be coming from for you to send it from an android device to a dotnet webservice ? Suggest you try more googling eg - http://www.blackberryforums.com/developer-forum/178964-25-00-someone-. .. http://osdir.com/ml/java.enhydra.ksoap/2003-07/msg9.html Regards On Oct 19, 6:47 am, Dave david.gra...@gmail.com wrote: Folks I know there are quite a few examples of accessing dotnet webservices that return a dataset. I cannot find any examples there the webservice method requires a dataset as a parameter. i.e. dotNet webservice: WebMethod() _ Public Function TestWS(ByVal ds As DataSet) As String Return ds.Tables.Count Tables in dataset End Function I have tried adding the parameter of xml string of the dataset by capturing the http post content of a dotNet web page and extracting the relevant section for the parameter without any success. This included the schema but neither having this there or not made any difference. I have also just tried creating a simple xml structure but still nothing. rpc.addProperty(ds,dst1f1blah/f1/t1/ds); If anyone has any ideas it would be appreciated, I really dont want to go down the route of creating the soap xml and posting it myself. Thanks in advance Dave --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[android-developers] Re: KSoap - How to pass a dataset to a dotNet webservice?
Hi, Or modify the webservice to accept something more sensible... Regards On Oct 20, 7:45 pm, Dave Gracie david.gra...@gmail.com wrote: Thats actually the first thing I tried. I passed in the ms soap version of the dataset but still didnt work. I think I only have one option and that is to build up the soap request (xml) manually and post it myself, removing teh need for KSoap. 2009/10/19 gjs garyjamessi...@gmail.com Hi again, You could reverse engineer this to some extent by generating a proxy for a client of the webservice then use ,something like wire shark to monitor/capture what is passed between the client and the webservice. I guess it might be an xml representation of the Dataset that gets passed. You can facilitate this if you have an instance of a Dataset by outputing/saving itself in XML format. This would all be done in a .net environment. After this you could work out what an android implementation of a client would need to pass and whether ksoap can help. As you probably know a ms Dataset is a heavy weight representation of a database or partial database including a schema definition, an object that cannot be 'instantiated' in java, which is generally used in a homogeneous .net environment. Webservices like a lot of other things suffer a Microsoft implementation and other open source implementations which are by (ms) design deliberately incompatible... Regards On Oct 19, 10:47 pm, Dave Gracie david.gra...@gmail.com wrote: I might try emailing the guy who did the android ksoap port directly. the second parameter is just the value of the parameter. My issue is what structure / format should that value be to correctly send a dataset. Thanks for the help. Dave 2009/10/19 konic nflous...@gmail.com You may try to ask this question directly to the android port of ksoap (http://code.google.com/p/ksoap2-android/) Next, if you look in ksoap2 docs (http://ksoap2.sourceforge.net/doc/ api/org/ksoap2/serialization/SoapObject.html http://ksoap2.sourceforge.net/doc/%0Aapi/org/ksoap2/serialization/Soa... ) you'll see that in fact second parameter in addProperty() is Object. On 19 окт, 04:56, Dave david.gra...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Thanks for the response. Its not an issue with the webservice as this works fine. the issue is with how I go about creating the ksoap parameter to be passed to the webservice. Simple types suck as strings, ints etc.. are fine. but the complex type of a dataset just isnt as straight forward. I just thought that someone may have had this problem with ksoap before. Thanks Dave On Oct 19, 7:45 am, gjs garyjamessi...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I'd think your asking in the wrong forum, a (microsoft proprietary) Dataset object is usually associated with .net development. Where would your microsoft Dataset object be coming from for you to send it from an android device to a dotnet webservice ? Suggest you try more googling eg - http://www.blackberryforums.com/developer-forum/178964-25-00-someone-. .. http://osdir.com/ml/java.enhydra.ksoap/2003-07/msg9.html Regards On Oct 19, 6:47 am, Dave david.gra...@gmail.com wrote: Folks I know there are quite a few examples of accessing dotnet webservices that return a dataset. I cannot find any examples there the webservice method requires a dataset as a parameter. i.e. dotNet webservice: WebMethod() _ Public Function TestWS(ByVal ds As DataSet) As String Return ds.Tables.Count Tables in dataset End Function I have tried adding the parameter of xml string of the dataset by capturing the http post content of a dotNet web page and extracting the relevant section for the parameter without any success. This included the schema but neither having this there or not made any difference. I have also just tried creating a simple xml structure but still nothing. rpc.addProperty(ds,dst1f1blah/f1/t1/ds); If anyone has any ideas it would be appreciated, I really dont want to go down the route of creating the soap xml and posting it myself. Thanks in advance Dave --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[android-developers] Re: KSoap - How to pass a dataset to a dotNet webservice?
Hi, I'd think your asking in the wrong forum, a (microsoft proprietary) Dataset object is usually associated with .net development. Where would your microsoft Dataset object be coming from for you to send it from an android device to a dotnet webservice ? Suggest you try more googling eg - http://www.blackberryforums.com/developer-forum/178964-25-00-someone-show-me-how-connect-net-web-service.html http://osdir.com/ml/java.enhydra.ksoap/2003-07/msg9.html Regards On Oct 19, 6:47 am, Dave david.gra...@gmail.com wrote: Folks I know there are quite a few examples of accessing dotnet webservices that return a dataset. I cannot find any examples there the webservice method requires a dataset as a parameter. i.e. dotNet webservice: WebMethod() _ Public Function TestWS(ByVal ds As DataSet) As String Return ds.Tables.Count Tables in dataset End Function I have tried adding the parameter of xml string of the dataset by capturing the http post content of a dotNet web page and extracting the relevant section for the parameter without any success. This included the schema but neither having this there or not made any difference. I have also just tried creating a simple xml structure but still nothing. rpc.addProperty(ds,dst1f1blah/f1/t1/ds); If anyone has any ideas it would be appreciated, I really dont want to go down the route of creating the soap xml and posting it myself. Thanks in advance Dave --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[android-developers] Re: KSoap - How to pass a dataset to a dotNet webservice?
Hi Thanks for the response. Its not an issue with the webservice as this works fine. the issue is with how I go about creating the ksoap parameter to be passed to the webservice. Simple types suck as strings, ints etc.. are fine. but the complex type of a dataset just isnt as straight forward. I just thought that someone may have had this problem with ksoap before. Thanks Dave On Oct 19, 7:45 am, gjs garyjamessi...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I'd think your asking in the wrong forum, a (microsoft proprietary) Dataset object is usually associated with .net development. Where would your microsoft Dataset object be coming from for you to send it from an android device to a dotnet webservice ? Suggest you try more googling eg - http://www.blackberryforums.com/developer-forum/178964-25-00-someone-... http://osdir.com/ml/java.enhydra.ksoap/2003-07/msg9.html Regards On Oct 19, 6:47 am, Dave david.gra...@gmail.com wrote: Folks I know there are quite a few examples of accessing dotnet webservices that return a dataset. I cannot find any examples there the webservice method requires a dataset as a parameter. i.e. dotNet webservice: WebMethod() _ Public Function TestWS(ByVal ds As DataSet) As String Return ds.Tables.Count Tables in dataset End Function I have tried adding the parameter of xml string of the dataset by capturing the http post content of a dotNet web page and extracting the relevant section for the parameter without any success. This included the schema but neither having this there or not made any difference. I have also just tried creating a simple xml structure but still nothing. rpc.addProperty(ds,dst1f1blah/f1/t1/ds); If anyone has any ideas it would be appreciated, I really dont want to go down the route of creating the soap xml and posting it myself. Thanks in advance Dave --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[android-developers] Re: KSoap - How to pass a dataset to a dotNet webservice?
You may try to ask this question directly to the android port of ksoap (http://code.google.com/p/ksoap2-android/) Next, if you look in ksoap2 docs (http://ksoap2.sourceforge.net/doc/ api/org/ksoap2/serialization/SoapObject.html) you'll see that in fact second parameter in addProperty() is Object. On 19 окт, 04:56, Dave david.gra...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Thanks for the response. Its not an issue with the webservice as this works fine. the issue is with how I go about creating the ksoap parameter to be passed to the webservice. Simple types suck as strings, ints etc.. are fine. but the complex type of a dataset just isnt as straight forward. I just thought that someone may have had this problem with ksoap before. Thanks Dave On Oct 19, 7:45 am, gjs garyjamessi...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I'd think your asking in the wrong forum, a (microsoft proprietary) Dataset object is usually associated with .net development. Where would your microsoft Dataset object be coming from for you to send it from an android device to a dotnet webservice ? Suggest you try more googling eg - http://www.blackberryforums.com/developer-forum/178964-25-00-someone-... http://osdir.com/ml/java.enhydra.ksoap/2003-07/msg9.html Regards On Oct 19, 6:47 am, Dave david.gra...@gmail.com wrote: Folks I know there are quite a few examples of accessing dotnet webservices that return a dataset. I cannot find any examples there the webservice method requires a dataset as a parameter. i.e. dotNet webservice: WebMethod() _ Public Function TestWS(ByVal ds As DataSet) As String Return ds.Tables.Count Tables in dataset End Function I have tried adding the parameter of xml string of the dataset by capturing the http post content of a dotNet web page and extracting the relevant section for the parameter without any success. This included the schema but neither having this there or not made any difference. I have also just tried creating a simple xml structure but still nothing. rpc.addProperty(ds,dst1f1blah/f1/t1/ds); If anyone has any ideas it would be appreciated, I really dont want to go down the route of creating the soap xml and posting it myself. Thanks in advance Dave --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[android-developers] Re: KSoap - How to pass a dataset to a dotNet webservice?
I might try emailing the guy who did the android ksoap port directly. the second parameter is just the value of the parameter. My issue is what structure / format should that value be to correctly send a dataset. Thanks for the help. Dave 2009/10/19 konic nflous...@gmail.com You may try to ask this question directly to the android port of ksoap (http://code.google.com/p/ksoap2-android/) Next, if you look in ksoap2 docs (http://ksoap2.sourceforge.net/doc/ api/org/ksoap2/serialization/SoapObject.htmlhttp://ksoap2.sourceforge.net/doc/%0Aapi/org/ksoap2/serialization/SoapObject.html ) you'll see that in fact second parameter in addProperty() is Object. On 19 окт, 04:56, Dave david.gra...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Thanks for the response. Its not an issue with the webservice as this works fine. the issue is with how I go about creating the ksoap parameter to be passed to the webservice. Simple types suck as strings, ints etc.. are fine. but the complex type of a dataset just isnt as straight forward. I just thought that someone may have had this problem with ksoap before. Thanks Dave On Oct 19, 7:45 am, gjs garyjamessi...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I'd think your asking in the wrong forum, a (microsoft proprietary) Dataset object is usually associated with .net development. Where would your microsoft Dataset object be coming from for you to send it from an android device to a dotnet webservice ? Suggest you try more googling eg - http://www.blackberryforums.com/developer-forum/178964-25-00-someone-. .. http://osdir.com/ml/java.enhydra.ksoap/2003-07/msg9.html Regards On Oct 19, 6:47 am, Dave david.gra...@gmail.com wrote: Folks I know there are quite a few examples of accessing dotnet webservices that return a dataset. I cannot find any examples there the webservice method requires a dataset as a parameter. i.e. dotNet webservice: WebMethod() _ Public Function TestWS(ByVal ds As DataSet) As String Return ds.Tables.Count Tables in dataset End Function I have tried adding the parameter of xml string of the dataset by capturing the http post content of a dotNet web page and extracting the relevant section for the parameter without any success. This included the schema but neither having this there or not made any difference. I have also just tried creating a simple xml structure but still nothing. rpc.addProperty(ds,dst1f1blah/f1/t1/ds); If anyone has any ideas it would be appreciated, I really dont want to go down the route of creating the soap xml and posting it myself. Thanks in advance Dave --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[android-developers] Re: KSoap - How to pass a dataset to a dotNet webservice?
Hi again, You could reverse engineer this to some extent by generating a proxy for a client of the webservice then use ,something like wire shark to monitor/capture what is passed between the client and the webservice. I guess it might be an xml representation of the Dataset that gets passed. You can facilitate this if you have an instance of a Dataset by outputing/saving itself in XML format. This would all be done in a .net environment. After this you could work out what an android implementation of a client would need to pass and whether ksoap can help. As you probably know a ms Dataset is a heavy weight representation of a database or partial database including a schema definition, an object that cannot be 'instantiated' in java, which is generally used in a homogeneous .net environment. Webservices like a lot of other things suffer a Microsoft implementation and other open source implementations which are by (ms) design deliberately incompatible... Regards On Oct 19, 10:47 pm, Dave Gracie david.gra...@gmail.com wrote: I might try emailing the guy who did the android ksoap port directly. the second parameter is just the value of the parameter. My issue is what structure / format should that value be to correctly send a dataset. Thanks for the help. Dave 2009/10/19 konic nflous...@gmail.com You may try to ask this question directly to the android port of ksoap (http://code.google.com/p/ksoap2-android/) Next, if you look in ksoap2 docs (http://ksoap2.sourceforge.net/doc/ api/org/ksoap2/serialization/SoapObject.htmlhttp://ksoap2.sourceforge.net/doc/%0Aapi/org/ksoap2/serialization/Soa... ) you'll see that in fact second parameter in addProperty() is Object. On 19 окт, 04:56, Dave david.gra...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Thanks for the response. Its not an issue with the webservice as this works fine. the issue is with how I go about creating the ksoap parameter to be passed to the webservice. Simple types suck as strings, ints etc.. are fine. but the complex type of a dataset just isnt as straight forward. I just thought that someone may have had this problem with ksoap before. Thanks Dave On Oct 19, 7:45 am, gjs garyjamessi...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I'd think your asking in the wrong forum, a (microsoft proprietary) Dataset object is usually associated with .net development. Where would your microsoft Dataset object be coming from for you to send it from an android device to a dotnet webservice ? Suggest you try more googling eg - http://www.blackberryforums.com/developer-forum/178964-25-00-someone-. .. http://osdir.com/ml/java.enhydra.ksoap/2003-07/msg9.html Regards On Oct 19, 6:47 am, Dave david.gra...@gmail.com wrote: Folks I know there are quite a few examples of accessing dotnet webservices that return a dataset. I cannot find any examples there the webservice method requires a dataset as a parameter. i.e. dotNet webservice: WebMethod() _ Public Function TestWS(ByVal ds As DataSet) As String Return ds.Tables.Count Tables in dataset End Function I have tried adding the parameter of xml string of the dataset by capturing the http post content of a dotNet web page and extracting the relevant section for the parameter without any success. This included the schema but neither having this there or not made any difference. I have also just tried creating a simple xml structure but still nothing. rpc.addProperty(ds,dst1f1blah/f1/t1/ds); If anyone has any ideas it would be appreciated, I really dont want to go down the route of creating the soap xml and posting it myself. Thanks in advance Dave --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
