Re: [android-developers] Re: google io

2012-03-29 Thread Zsolt Vasvari
I would have had to fly 18 hours just to get to San Fran.  A $3000 trip 
minimum, so definitely the freebies weren't the motivation.

On Thursday, March 29, 2012 10:48:48 AM UTC+8, Greg Donald wrote:

 On Wed, Mar 28, 2012 at 8:36 PM, Zsolt Vasvari zvasv...@gmail.com wrote:
  Honestly, I think a lot of people are trying to because of the freebies.
  But even if you resell them on eBay for a profit, it's still not cost
  effective by the time you factor in the airfare, hotel, etc.

 I certainly don't care to fly for 6 hours just to get a free device,
 not my own personal motivation at all.

  So what happens is, people who are actually interested in going because 
 they
  make their livelihood from Android, cannot.

 That's what it looks like from where I sit.  And still no one can
 explain to me how tickets appeared to be sold out to my browser 4
 separate times before the actual sold out banner went up at 7:29.
 That's so obviously rigged.

  It's a seriously f-ed up situation, but it is what it is.  As with a lot 
 of
  things related to Android, the ideas are great, but the execution, how
  should I say it, lacks finesse.

 I see no reason to ever try again.  Making something extremely
 difficult to acquire doesn't make me want it more, quite the opposite
 actually.


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Re: [android-developers] Re: google io

2012-03-29 Thread Raghav Sood
Their organization or interaction skills clearly aren't even average. I'd
written a mail to them, asking if an exception to the minimum age of
sixteen could be made, as I would be 15 when the IO event happened. Never
got a reply.

Thanks

Raghav Sood
Sent from my Nexus S

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[android-developers] Re: google io

2012-03-28 Thread Zsolt Vasvari
I am in the same boat as you are.  I was ready to fly all the way from 
Singapore to attend as I feel that any successful developer should have the 
chance to attend.  That means, at the minimum, my trip would have cost me 
$3000, but it would have been worth it for the networking opportunities.

Oh well, I will save my money for something else.



On Wednesday, March 28, 2012 11:12:56 AM UTC+8, Greg Donald wrote:

 That's sad when scalpers can get Google IO tickets:

 http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_nkw=google%20io_fscr=1


 But a full time Android developer like myself only gets to see the No
 Tickets Available page from 7 to 7:29am.

 How can there be no tickets available at 7:04am, 7:09am, etc, but the
 sellout doesn't actually occur until 7:29am?  Why did I have to be
 signed in to Google+ account?  For selection purposes?  Seems rigged
 as fuck to me.

 Thanks for nothing Google.  I won't bother even trying next year.  Keep it.


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[android-developers] Re: google io

2012-03-28 Thread John Coryat
Google has changed the rules somewhat, so the likelihood of scalpers 
getting tickets is reduced. 

 Google I/O 2012 registration terms and conditions: 
   
   - An individual can only purchase one ticket.
   - Tickets may only be used by original purchaser. Tickets may not be 
   resold. The resale of a ticket will render the ticket null and void without 
   any responsibility to Google. 
   - Tickets may be transferred at Google’s sole discretion. Google 
   reserves the right to reject any transfer requests. 
   - Persons who are: 
  1. residents of embargoed countries,
  2. ordinarily resident in embargoed countries, or
  3. otherwise prohibited by applicable export controls and sanctions 
  programs may not attend the conference.
   - In order to register, users must have a Google Account and access to 
   Google+.
   - Photographs and/or video taken at Google I/O by Google, or others on 
   behalf of Google, may include your image, voice, or likeness. You agree 
   that Google may use such photographs and/or video recordings for any 
   purpose without compensation to you. 

 

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Re: [android-developers] Re: google io

2012-03-28 Thread Mark Murphy
That doesn't reduce the odds of scalpers getting tickets. It reduces
the odds of people buying tickets from scalpers actually being able to
use them.

On Wed, Mar 28, 2012 at 2:31 AM, John Coryat cor...@gmail.com wrote:
 Google has changed the rules somewhat, so the likelihood of scalpers getting
 tickets is reduced.

 Google I/O 2012 registration terms and conditions:

 An individual can only purchase one ticket.
 Tickets may only be used by original purchaser. Tickets may not be resold.
 The resale of a ticket will render the ticket null and void without any
 responsibility to Google.
 Tickets may be transferred at Google’s sole discretion. Google reserves the
 right to reject any transfer requests.
 Persons who are:

 residents of embargoed countries,
 ordinarily resident in embargoed countries, or
 otherwise prohibited by applicable export controls and sanctions programs
 may not attend the conference.

 In order to register, users must have a Google Account and access to
 Google+.
 Photographs and/or video taken at Google I/O by Google, or others on behalf
 of Google, may include your image, voice, or likeness. You agree that Google
 may use such photographs and/or video recordings for any purpose without
 compensation to you.



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Re: [android-developers] Re: google io

2012-03-28 Thread John Coryat
That doesn't reduce the odds of scalpers getting tickets. It reduces

 the odds of people buying tickets from scalpers actually being able to
 use them.


Caveat emptor! 

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Re: [android-developers] Re: google io

2012-03-28 Thread Greg Donald
On Wed, Mar 28, 2012 at 1:31 AM, John Coryat cor...@gmail.com wrote:
 An individual can only purchase one ticket.

That's the dumbest rule ever.  How would it ever be possible for a
single company to purchase two seats for sending two developers?  For
example, yesterday I could not even get a single seat, much less a
second seat for my co-worker.  We had both been approved by our
company to go, budget was there, everything.  Got the door slammed in
our faces 4 times between 7 and 7:29am.

It pissed me off yesterday but today I'm like in don't care mode.  If
Google doesn't care enough to get interested Android developers signed
up ahead of the scalpers then why should I?


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Re: [android-developers] Re: google io

2012-03-28 Thread Zsolt Vasvari
Honestly, I think a lot of people are trying to because of the freebies.   
But even if you resell them on eBay for a profit, it's still not cost 
effective by the time you factor in the airfare, hotel, etc.

So what happens is, people who are actually interested in going because 
they make their livelihood from Android, cannot.

It's a seriously f-ed up situation, but it is what it is.  As with a lot of 
things related to Android, the ideas are great, but the execution, how 
should I say it, lacks finesse.



On Thursday, March 29, 2012 9:12:26 AM UTC+8, Greg Donald wrote:

 On Wed, Mar 28, 2012 at 1:31 AM, John Coryat cor...@gmail.com wrote:
  An individual can only purchase one ticket.

 That's the dumbest rule ever.  How would it ever be possible for a
 single company to purchase two seats for sending two developers?  For
 example, yesterday I could not even get a single seat, much less a
 second seat for my co-worker.  We had both been approved by our
 company to go, budget was there, everything.  Got the door slammed in
 our faces 4 times between 7 and 7:29am.

 It pissed me off yesterday but today I'm like in don't care mode.  If
 Google doesn't care enough to get interested Android developers signed
 up ahead of the scalpers then why should I?


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Re: [android-developers] Re: google io

2012-03-28 Thread Greg Donald
On Wed, Mar 28, 2012 at 8:36 PM, Zsolt Vasvari zvasv...@gmail.com wrote:
 Honestly, I think a lot of people are trying to because of the freebies.
 But even if you resell them on eBay for a profit, it's still not cost
 effective by the time you factor in the airfare, hotel, etc.

I certainly don't care to fly for 6 hours just to get a free device,
not my own personal motivation at all.

 So what happens is, people who are actually interested in going because they
 make their livelihood from Android, cannot.

That's what it looks like from where I sit.  And still no one can
explain to me how tickets appeared to be sold out to my browser 4
separate times before the actual sold out banner went up at 7:29.
That's so obviously rigged.

 It's a seriously f-ed up situation, but it is what it is.  As with a lot of
 things related to Android, the ideas are great, but the execution, how
 should I say it, lacks finesse.

I see no reason to ever try again.  Making something extremely
difficult to acquire doesn't make me want it more, quite the opposite
actually.


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[android-developers] Re: Google IO sold out!

2010-04-06 Thread Robert Green
I'm in the same boat.  I'm still going to SF that week in case anyone
wants to get together after hours.

On Apr 6, 3:20 pm, kylestew kyles...@gmail.com wrote:
 I tried to register too late for Google IO and its already sold out. I
 really wanted to go this year and don't care about getting a free
 phone. Anyone know if there is a way to still register? What about
 taking the place of those who cancel their registrations?
 Next year I will register the day it opens.

 Kyle

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Re: [android-developers] Re: Google IO sold out!

2010-04-06 Thread Kevin Duffey
Can't believe it's sold out! That's a good thing I guess.. maybe economic
woes are finally turning around.

On Tue, Apr 6, 2010 at 3:18 PM, Robert Green rbgrn@gmail.com wrote:

 I'm in the same boat.  I'm still going to SF that week in case anyone
 wants to get together after hours.

 On Apr 6, 3:20 pm, kylestew kyles...@gmail.com wrote:
  I tried to register too late for Google IO and its already sold out. I
  really wanted to go this year and don't care about getting a free
  phone. Anyone know if there is a way to still register? What about
  taking the place of those who cancel their registrations?
  Next year I will register the day it opens.
 
  Kyle

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