Re: [android-developers] Re: It seems easy to get rid of a competitor’s app

2012-10-22 Thread Peter
On 20 October Kristopher Micinski wrote: Is there any possibility that Google would spend enough money for tons of lawyers to protect you on an individual basis? Probably not. But these cases almost never reach a stage where a lawyer is required. Normally neither the developer who

Re: [android-developers] Re: It seems easy to get rid of a competitor’s app

2012-10-21 Thread Latimerius
On Sat, Oct 20, 2012 at 11:44 PM, Kristopher Micinski krismicin...@gmail.com wrote: Please read the developer agreement you signed. There is nothing in it that says that Google has the responsibility to take legal action on your behalf. I don't take this discussion as being about whether

Re: [android-developers] Re: It seems easy to get rid of a competitor’s app

2012-10-21 Thread Kristopher Micinski
On Sun, Oct 21, 2012 at 8:16 AM, Latimerius l4t1m3r...@gmail.com wrote: Does it suck that this happens? Yes, it does. Is there any possibility that Google would spend enough money for tons of lawyers to protect you on an individual basis? I don't think that makes sense for them,

Re: [android-developers] Re: It seems easy to get rid of a competitor’s app

2012-10-21 Thread Kristopher Micinski
And I don't mean to discourage you, it would be nice to know why this isn't happening, but in reality nobody from Google is going to reply to you on this forum, that seems legally risky for them. kris On Sun, Oct 21, 2012 at 10:26 AM, Kristopher Micinski krismicin...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun,

Re: [android-developers] Re: It seems easy to get rid of a competitor’s app

2012-10-21 Thread John Coryat
I think the reason that this tactic is rare is a very human one. Most developers, the vast majority, are regular, moral and well meaning people. In order to stoop to tactics like this a person would have to be evil by nature. There just aren't that many people in the world who could stomach

Re: [android-developers] Re: It seems easy to get rid of a competitor’s app

2012-10-21 Thread Latimerius
On Sun, Oct 21, 2012 at 4:26 PM, Kristopher Micinski krismicin...@gmail.com wrote: It seems like it would make sense in the abstract, but time and time again I've been surprisingly wrong about legal action seeming like it should be obvious / easy, and having this be completely false. Have to

Re: [android-developers] Re: It seems easy to get rid of a competitor’s app

2012-10-21 Thread Kristopher Micinski
I honestly think the problem with this is that the legal people don't write blogs, and the software people don't have the ability to write legal blogs. But it'd be nice. kris On Sun, Oct 21, 2012 at 3:06 PM, Latimerius l4t1m3r...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Oct 21, 2012 at 4:26 PM, Kristopher

Re: [android-developers] Re: It seems easy to get rid of a competitor’s app

2012-10-21 Thread Andrew
I cannot believe that this is really happening! Is it? Andrew On Wednesday, 17 October 2012 12:57:05 UTC+2, Peter wrote: This does not seem to be the first time they are doing this: * https://www.google.com/transparencyreport/removals/copyright/requests/341196/

[android-developers] Re: It seems easy to get rid of a competitor’s app

2012-10-20 Thread Petersen
As far as I understand, these guys can remove any apps from the Play Store with minimal (or no?) risk for themselves – and there is nothing we can do about it. The next time they may remove *your or mine* apps! Even worse, if they remove another app from you, then Google will probably

Re: [android-developers] Re: It seems easy to get rid of a competitor’s app

2012-10-20 Thread Kristopher Micinski
On Sat, Oct 20, 2012 at 4:54 AM, Petersen petern...@gmail.com wrote: As far as I understand, these guys can remove any apps from the Play Store with minimal (or no?) risk for themselves – and there is nothing we can do about it. The next time they may remove your or mine apps! Even worse,

Re: [android-developers] Re: It seems easy to get rid of a competitor’s app

2012-10-17 Thread Peter
This does not seem to be the first time they are doing this: * https://www.google.com/transparencyreport/removals/copyright/requests/341196/ *https://www.google.com/transparencyreport/removals/copyright/requests/341196/

[android-developers] Re: It seems easy to get rid of a competitor’s app

2012-10-16 Thread Piotr Buła
On Sunday, October 14, 2012 10:51:49 AM UTC+2, Terry wrote: Two of my apps have been removed from the Google Play Store, (a free/trial version and a pro version of the same app). A developer of a similar app asked for them to be removed. The reason for removal was given as “Alleged

[android-developers] Re: It seems easy to get rid of a competitor’s app

2012-10-16 Thread Terry
Thank you, Piotr, for an extremely interesting - but shocking comment. You wrote: Any reason you have not issued fake DMCA takedown notice against your oppressor? My answer to that is that I do not know (yet). HOW do you issue a fake DMCA takedown notice - and to WHOM? Terry kl. 10:51:49

[android-developers] Re: It seems easy to get rid of a competitor’s app

2012-10-16 Thread Piotr Buła
This maybe? http://support.google.com/bin/static.py?hl=ents=1114905page=ts.cs Now, theoretically, issuing fake/unsubstantiated take-down notice can get you in legal trouble. In practice, I have never ever heard of any troll being held responsible for that kind of unfair behaviour (doesn't mean

Re: [android-developers] Re: It seems easy to get rid of a competitor’s app

2012-10-16 Thread Chris Sarbora
Most people don't know how to fistfight either, but that doesn't mean you should let bullies give it to you on the chin ;) On Sunday, October 14, 2012 9:26:56 AM UTC-7, Kristopher Micinski wrote: On Sun, Oct 14, 2012 at 12:17 PM, Chris Sarbora top...@gmail.comjavascript: wrote: Escalate

Re: [android-developers] Re: It seems easy to get rid of a competitor’s app

2012-10-15 Thread Michael Leung
That is the 1st times I heard about that. There are a lot of similar apps in the Google Play. For example, my todo list app is in the market for a while, but I found there are a lot of similar apps, even some of them are using the same opensource library too. On Mon, Oct 15, 2012 at 2:25 AM,

[android-developers] Re: It seems easy to get rid of a competitor’s app

2012-10-14 Thread Terry
Correction: The reference numbers (for removals) are *[#1121348892] and ** [#1121360722]*** * * kl. 10:51:49 UTC+2 søndag 14. oktober 2012 skrev Terry følgende: Two of my apps have been removed from the Google Play Store, (a free/trial version and a pro version of the same app). A

[android-developers] Re: It seems easy to get rid of a competitor’s app

2012-10-14 Thread RichardC
http://www.chillingeffects.org/dmca512/ On Sunday, October 14, 2012 10:06:03 AM UTC+1, Terry wrote: Correction: The reference numbers (for removals) are *[#1121348892] and * *[#1121360722]*** * * kl. 10:51:49 UTC+2 søndag 14. oktober 2012 skrev Terry følgende: Two of my apps have been

[android-developers] Re: It seems easy to get rid of a competitor’s app

2012-10-14 Thread Terry
At the end of the Chilling Effects text you linked to, I found the following line: If the copyright owner does not notify the service provider within 14 business days that it has filed a claim against you in court, your materials can be restored to the Internet. This is obviously what Google

[android-developers] Re: It seems easy to get rid of a competitor’s app

2012-10-14 Thread Chris Sarbora
Escalate the issue with Google and point out that no legal action has actually been taken, and that they are required to reinstate your material. Follow through and do not relent until it happens or you are served with a court appearance. Then, if I were you, I would find out who is abusing

Re: [android-developers] Re: It seems easy to get rid of a competitor’s app

2012-10-14 Thread Kristopher Micinski
On Sun, Oct 14, 2012 at 12:17 PM, Chris Sarbora top...@gmail.com wrote: Escalate the issue with Google and point out that no legal action has actually been taken, and that they are required to reinstate your material. Follow through and do not relent until it happens or you are served with a