[android-developers] Re: latitude / longitude / altitude / direction of photo/image-taken in metadata of android-camera ?

2012-01-01 Thread gjs
Hi,

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Regards

On Dec 29 2011, 11:48 pm, henke54 henk...@gmail.com wrote:
 Can it be possible that a Android camera can 'capture' the correct 4
 'dimensions' : latitude / longitude / altitude / direction of photo/
 image-taken , so that everybody can 'reproduce' the exact place-and-
 direction-of-taken-photo to share with somebody else in streetview or
 google maps ???

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[android-developers] Re: latitude / longitude / altitude / direction of photo/image-taken in metadata of android-camera ?

2011-12-31 Thread lbendlin
you're probably using network location which gives you the illusion of a 
quicker GPS fix. Switch that off, then start the camera app, and see how 
long it takes to get a real GPS fix. We're talking tens of seconds here.

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Re: [android-developers] Re: latitude / longitude / altitude / direction of photo/image-taken in metadata of android-camera ?

2011-12-31 Thread James Black
If you start the gps fix early on in the application, perhaps have an
activity they go to before they take the picture, or, at least, let them
know there is no GPS fix, then you can get the time to get that before they
take the picture.

On Sat, Dec 31, 2011 at 8:56 AM, lbendlin l...@bendlin.us wrote:

 you're probably using network location which gives you the illusion of a
 quicker GPS fix. Switch that off, then start the camera app, and see how
 long it takes to get a real GPS fix. We're talking tens of seconds here.

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[android-developers] Re: latitude / longitude / altitude / direction of photo/image-taken in metadata of android-camera ?

2011-12-31 Thread Lew
lbendlin wrote:

 you're probably using network location which gives you the illusion of a 
 quicker GPS fix. Switch that off, then start the camera 


On what do you base such a statement?  I gave absolutely zero information 
about what I experience.  Probably?
 

 app, and see how long it takes to get a real GPS fix. We're talking tens 
 of seconds here.


Well, for me it's five seconds, and all the times I've used geo location 
for photos that five seconds has never bothered me much.  It's comparable 
to the time to do a local search from Google Maps for Mobile, for example. 
 Perhaps I am unique.  Perhaps I measure latency against what other apps 
provide, and since they are all in that five-second range it seems normal.

There are a couple of us now who suggested prefetch.  Is that an idea that 
would work for you?

What evidence have you gathered to find the threshold at which [y]our 
users may not be willing to wait?  Are users generally bothered by a 
five-second delay for GPS?  

I'm thinking you have a tendency to leap to conclusions, well, assumptions 
disguised as conclusions.  You might have fallen into Knuth's famous 
premature optimization trap.  You assumed things (probably) about my 
configuration and even what I experience on my phone.  Have you assumed 
things about what users typically experience and can tolerate?  Shouldn't 
you have some facts in hand before investing, possibly wasting effort 
solving a tier-2 or -3 problem?

That said, some sort of coordinate prefetch-and-cache strategy might make 
your app the new standard that has people impatient with all the others.

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[android-developers] Re: latitude / longitude / altitude / direction of photo/image-taken in metadata of android-camera ?

2011-12-31 Thread Lew


On Saturday, December 31, 2011 10:11:04 AM UTC-8, Lew wrote:

 lbendlin wrote:

 you're probably using network location which gives you the illusion of a 
 quicker GPS fix. Switch that off, then start the camera 


 On what do you base such a statement?  I gave absolutely zero information 
 about what I experience.  Probably?


I take that back, I did say that I never noticed the delay.  Still, how you 
get from that to my configuration is a reach.  As it happens I never turn 
on network location.

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[android-developers] Re: latitude / longitude / altitude / direction of photo/image-taken in metadata of android-camera ?

2011-12-31 Thread lbendlin
You do realise that I am not the OP, right?

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[android-developers] Re: latitude / longitude / altitude / direction of photo/image-taken in metadata of android-camera ?

2011-12-31 Thread Lew
I was responding to your posts.  You don't have to be the OP for me to 
answer what you wrote.  Perhaps I erred in thinking your comments were a 
response to my post, though, in which case I apologize.

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On Saturday, December 31, 2011 1:11:00 PM UTC-8, lbendlin wrote:

 You do realise that I am not the OP, right?


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[android-developers] Re: latitude / longitude / altitude / direction of photo/image-taken in metadata of android-camera ?

2011-12-30 Thread Lew
Unless you are moving quite rapidly or you need very, very precise 
locations, you can grab the location coordinates once for a series of 
photos, starting before they snap the first shot.  There shouldn't be a 
need to reach out to the GPS separately for each and every photo.  You 
might be able to use a background thread to poll for GPS coordinates every 
so often if the device is moving.

Consider that the most frequent use case for photos is a series at one 
location.

You also might be able to interleave capture and display of the image with 
a delayed, background retrieval of GPS data to avoid the manifestation of a 
wait.

lbendlin, how much is the time cost to get GPS data, and why would the GPS 
be just starting up when the user is taking pictures.   I've taken 
geo-located pictures a number of times with my Android phone and I've never 
noticed any GPS delay in human scale.  Are we talking microseconds, milli-, 
tens of, ...?  Unless the delay approaches one second or higher, I don't 
anticipate users even noticing, much less becoming impatient.

lbendlin wrote:

 Sure, write your own Camera app and put the data into the image EXIF. Be 
 aware that getting location data has a time cost especially when the GPS is 
 just starting up. Your users may not be willing to wait.

 
henke54 wrote:

 Can it be possible that a Android camera can 'capture' the correct 4 
 'dimensions' : latitude / longitude / altitude / direction of photo/ 
 image-taken , so that everybody can 'reproduce' the exact place-and- 
 direction-of-taken-photo to share with somebody else in streetview or 
 google maps ???


That's a lot of question marks!

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