[android-developers] Re: Scheduling ideas

2011-02-24 Thread Neilz
Like this: public class AlarmReceiver extends BroadcastReceiver { On Feb 23, 10:11 pm, Kostya Vasilyev kmans...@gmail.com wrote: 24.02.2011 1:06,Neilzпишет:   I'm using an Activity that extends a BroadcastReceiver... An Activity that extends a Broadcast receiver? Sorry, I'm not sure I

Re: [android-developers] Re: Scheduling ideas

2011-02-24 Thread Justin Anderson
That is not an activity that extends a Broadcast receiver. That is a class that extends a Broadcast receiver, making AlarmReceiver a broadcast receiver, not an Activity. On Thu, Feb 24, 2011 at 1:27 PM, Neilz neilhorn...@gmail.com wrote: Like this: public class AlarmReceiver extends

Re: [android-developers] Re: Scheduling ideas

2011-02-24 Thread Kostya Vasilyev
Ok, that's a receiver. I am guessing that your receiver uses startActivity. If you do that, beware of sleep/wake states, it's documented here: http://developer.android.com/reference/android/app/AlarmManager.html Android guarantees that for Wakeup-type alarms delivered to a broadcast

[android-developers] Re: Scheduling ideas

2011-02-24 Thread Neilz
Yes sorry, bad wording, not an activity as such. My AlarmReceiver has one method, onReceive(), which starts an ASyncTask - that in turn does a server call, then schedules the next alarm. On Feb 24, 8:50 pm, Kostya Vasilyev kmans...@gmail.com wrote: Ok, that's a receiver. I am guessing that

[android-developers] Re: Scheduling ideas

2011-02-23 Thread Neilz
Hi Kostya. Regarding this info you suggested... the examples seem to demonstrate this for starting and stopping a Service. I'm using an Activity that extends a BroadcastReceiver... can it still be used in the same way? I'm a little confused about how to implement this. Thanks for the help, Neil.

Re: [android-developers] Re: Scheduling ideas

2011-02-23 Thread Kostya Vasilyev
24.02.2011 1:06, Neilz пишет: I'm using an Activity that extends a BroadcastReceiver... An Activity that extends a Broadcast receiver? Sorry, I'm not sure I understand what this means. Do you mean something else - like a BroadcastReceiver subclass that starts an Activity subclass? --

[android-developers] Re: Scheduling ideas

2011-02-20 Thread Neilz
Reviving this thread yet again... There does seem to be some kind of bug in the code. Strange thing is though, it does get caught. The code always works fine within normal circumstances, but when it's run as an Alarm Service, the process dies at a particular line, and it isn't caught in the catch

Re: [android-developers] Re: Scheduling ideas

2011-02-20 Thread Kostya Vasilyev
If your device switches off the networking connection while sleeping, then yes, that line can throw an exception. It should be an IOException, which should go into the log, but since it doesn't seem to be - add a catch block for Exception (or even better, Throwable) and log it, see what

[android-developers] Re: Scheduling ideas

2011-02-20 Thread Neilz
Thanks Kostya. I did the network test... Active network info: NetworkInfo: type: WIFI[], state: CONNECTED/ CONNECTED, reason: (unspecified), extra: (none), roaming: false, failover: false, isAvailable: true And added a general Exception block, which still didn't catch anything! -- You received

Re: [android-developers] Re: Scheduling ideas

2011-02-20 Thread Kostya Vasilyev
20.02.2011 16:18, Neilz пишет: I did the network test... Active network info: NetworkInfo: type: WIFI[], state: CONNECTED/ CONNECTED, reason: (unspecified), extra: (none), roaming: false, failover: false, isAvailable: true That's good. And added a general Exception block, which still didn't

[android-developers] Re: Scheduling ideas

2011-02-20 Thread Neilz
Yep, added a Throwable block, still nothing. The only output I get is this: 02-20 13:33:26.067: INFO/ActivityManager(83): Process com.my.app.android.activity:remote (pid 4610) has died. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To

Re: [android-developers] Re: Scheduling ideas

2011-02-20 Thread Kostya Vasilyev
This means Android decided to get rid your process, thinking it wasn't important. http://android-developers.blogspot.com/2010/02/service-api-changes-starting-with.html Add a call to startForeground while updating data, and stopForeground when done. And btw, you are using AlarmService to

[android-developers] Re: Scheduling ideas

2011-02-20 Thread Neilz
I'm using the service to connect to a server and get dynamic info for the app, which I want to happen each morning. Not updates, just up to date data that the app uses, in this case sporting info. I'll look into that info, thanks. On Feb 20, 1:57 pm, Kostya Vasilyev kmans...@gmail.com wrote:

[android-developers] Re: Scheduling ideas

2011-02-20 Thread Neilz
Ok. I think I may have found one factor influencing this. I'm using ASyncTask to handle the thread. I've just been reading some blogs on this, and it seems it is hard coded to use the lowest priority, which means it may well be killed off when used on a device with low memory (like my Hero in

Re: [android-developers] Re: Scheduling ideas

2011-02-20 Thread Dianne Hackborn
No, AsyncTask has nothing to do with when your process is killed. In both ways -- it can not allow it to be killed, nor can it *prevent* it from being killed (having a Service, Activity, etc running is what lets the system know how important the process is to be kept around, and thus whether it

[android-developers] Re: Scheduling ideas

2011-02-07 Thread Neilz
More issues with this. I'm testing on a Nexus and Hero. It all runs fine on the Nexus, but on the Hero after I schedule the alarm, sometimes the process seems to die: 02-07 09:00:36.664: INFO/ActivityManager(98): Process com.my.app.activity:remote (pid 1813) has died. And that's it, no other

Re: [android-developers] Re: Scheduling ideas

2011-02-07 Thread Kostya Vasilyev
Neil, A background service may be stopped by Android at its discretion. The beauty of AlarmManager is that it doesn't matter - when an alarm fires, the component that the pending intent is intended for will be started as necessary. The alarms are not kept in the application's process, they

[android-developers] Re: Scheduling ideas

2011-02-06 Thread Neilz
Really, BOOT_COMPLETED can be disabled? That poses me a bit of a problem. So there's no way for me to know whether my alarm service has been restarted. On Feb 5, 4:01 pm, Kostya Vasilyev kmans...@gmail.com wrote: Well, some devices have really weird settings, like the HTC fast boot

Re: [android-developers] Re: Scheduling ideas

2011-02-06 Thread Kostya Vasilyev
Yes, this was discussed recently here: http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=14536 and there appears to be no workaround, except explaining this to the user (in the application's UI or if he contacts you). I was just saying that there are devices out there with pretty weird

[android-developers] Re: Scheduling ideas

2011-02-05 Thread Neilz
Ok, one problem with this alarm service. I schedule it for some time in the morning, and when I get up and check the phone, the alarm didn't get called, because it thinks there's no network connection. This is a call I make deliberately (I always check there's a connection before making the

Re: [android-developers] Re: Scheduling ideas

2011-02-05 Thread Marcin Orlowski
On 5 February 2011 13:40, Neilz neilhorn...@gmail.com wrote: Ok, one problem with this alarm service. I schedule it for some time in the morning, and when I get up and check the phone, the alarm didn't get called, because it thinks there's no network connection. Alarm manager makes does not

Re: [android-developers] Re: Scheduling ideas

2011-02-05 Thread Kostya Vasilyev
05.02.2011 15:40, Neilz пишет: Ok, one problem with this alarm service. I schedule it for some time in the morning, and when I get up and check the phone, the alarm didn't get called, because it thinks there's no network connection. I'm sure the alarm did get called, as the AlarmManager

[android-developers] Re: Scheduling ideas

2011-02-05 Thread Neilz
Hi Kostya. Yes, the alarm gets called... it's just my own call which stops it doing it's task. For example: if(isNetworkAvailable(mContext)){ // do stuff... } public static boolean isNetworkAvailable(Context context) { ConnectivityManager connMgr = (ConnectivityManager)

Re: [android-developers] Re: Scheduling ideas

2011-02-05 Thread Kostya Vasilyev
Neil, That's pretty much how I test too, except my code lacks a check for isConnected, only for null. This is what I get in my app's log: NetworkInfo: type: MOBILE[EDGE], state: CONNECTED/CONNECTED, reason: apnSwitched, extra: internet.mts.ru, roaming: false, failover: false, isAvailable:

[android-developers] Re: Scheduling ideas

2011-02-05 Thread Neilz
Yes, looking at the log output, it seems the device disables the wireless connection after a few minutes while the phone's sleeping, to save resources I suppose. So I'll just have to code around that, and reset the alarm to try again until the connection is back. On Feb 5, 1:29 pm, Kostya

Re: [android-developers] Re: Scheduling ideas

2011-02-05 Thread Mark Murphy
On Sat, Feb 5, 2011 at 10:22 AM, Neilz neilhorn...@gmail.com wrote: Yes, looking at the log output, it seems the device disables the wireless connection after a few minutes while the phone's sleeping, to save resources I suppose. So I'll just have to code around that, and reset the alarm to

Re: [android-developers] Re: Scheduling ideas

2011-02-05 Thread Kostya Vasilyev
Interesting. I take it by wireless you mean cellular? My HTC Hero has an option for always on cellular data connection - I guess it's specific to HTC phones, as neither my Samsung Galaxy S or Motorola Milestone have that. Is your phone made by HTC by any chance? If so, perhaps you could

[android-developers] Re: Scheduling ideas

2011-02-05 Thread Neilz
No I'm testing on a Nexus... But I can't be responsible for user's individual settings, so I'll just have to assume that in some cases the network will not be available during the night. Unless there's a command to explicitly wake up the connection? On Feb 5, 3:42 pm, Kostya Vasilyev

Re: [android-developers] Re: Scheduling ideas

2011-02-05 Thread Kostya Vasilyev
05.02.2011 18:47, Neilz пишет: No I'm testing on a Nexus... Ok. But I can't be responsible for user's individual settings, so I'll just have to assume that in some cases the network will not be available during the night. Unless there's a command to explicitly wake up the connection? Well,

[android-developers] Re: Scheduling ideas

2011-02-01 Thread neuron
AlarmManager :) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more

[android-developers] Re: Scheduling ideas

2011-02-01 Thread Neilz
Thanks... this seems to be what I'm after. However I just put together a simple repeat alarm, outputting a Toast every minute, which was fine. But it didn't work again after a phone restart... how can this be implemented? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google

Re: [android-developers] Re: Scheduling ideas

2011-02-01 Thread Kostya Vasilyev
Right, alarms are not persistent. Implement a receiver for android.intent.action.BOOT_COMPLETED, and set the alarm again after the device reboots. -- Kostya 01.02.2011 20:22, Neilz пишет: Thanks... this seems to be what I'm after. However I just put together a simple repeat alarm,

[android-developers] Re: Scheduling ideas

2011-02-01 Thread Neilz
Right, thanks. And will that stay on the device as long as the app is still installed? (And, I suppose, will it get removed if the app is uninstalled?) On Feb 1, 5:25 pm, Kostya Vasilyev kmans...@gmail.com wrote: Right, alarms are not persistent. Implement a receiver for

Re: [android-developers] Re: Scheduling ideas

2011-02-01 Thread Kostya Vasilyev
01.02.2011 20:35, Neilz пишет: Right, thanks. And will that stay on the device as long as the app is still installed? Yes. (And, I suppose, will it get removed if the app is uninstalled?) Believe so. -- Kostya On Feb 1, 5:25 pm, Kostya Vasilyevkmans...@gmail.com wrote: Right, alarms

[android-developers] Re: Scheduling ideas

2011-02-01 Thread Neilz
One thing I'm unsure of is how to schedule an alarm for a certain time, like 8am every day. All I can see is setting a repeat, at an interval of x milliseconds. Ok, so I can say one day's worth of milliseconds, but that's placing a lot of trust on the system clock? I can see that going wrong

Re: [android-developers] Re: Scheduling ideas

2011-02-01 Thread Kostya Vasilyev
Neil, You can set a non-repeating RTC or RTC_WAKEUP alarm at a fixed time, then when it fires, set the next one. Rinse, repeat :) -- Kostya 02.02.2011 0:22, Neilz пишет: One thing I'm unsure of is how to schedule an alarm for a certain time, like 8am every day. All I can see is setting a

[android-developers] Re: Scheduling ideas

2011-02-01 Thread Neilz
Aha... good thinking! Thanks for the help again, Kostya :) On Feb 1, 9:26 pm, Kostya Vasilyev kmans...@gmail.com wrote: Neil, You can set a non-repeating RTC or RTC_WAKEUP alarm at a fixed time, then when it fires, set the next one. Rinse, repeat :) -- Kostya -- You received this