Re: [Angstrom-devel] OE Angstrom reputation

2007-12-30 Thread Lorn Potter
Paul Sokolovsky wrote: overruled with superiority-ridden and unparriable responses like it's visually appealing, Well, if you think a terminal is visually appealing, thats fine for you, every commercial foo has it This is the truth. and most Linux developers in the world come from

Re: [Angstrom-devel] OE Angstrom reputation

2007-12-29 Thread Michael Rozdoba
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Lorn Potter wrote: What I mean is there is no reason to ever reply in a rude way. I guess the way I am using the word terse is more as slang for being rude or disrespectful. - From http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/terse 1. neatly or

Re: [Angstrom-devel] OE Angstrom reputation

2007-12-29 Thread Paul Sokolovsky
Hello Michael, Sunday, December 30, 2007, 1:36:10 AM, you wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Lorn Potter wrote: What I mean is there is no reason to ever reply in a rude way. I guess the way I am using the word terse is more as slang for being rude or disrespectful.

Re: [Angstrom-devel] OE Angstrom reputation

2007-12-28 Thread Matthias Hentges
[TOFU alert] +1 From me, Lorn. Very well said. Am Freitag, den 28.12.2007, 09:43 +1000 schrieb Lorn Potter: Paul Sokolovsky wrote: As for welcoming feeling, I'm not sure someone can easily point us to similar project to learn from, I'm afraid. other linux embedded

Re: [Angstrom-devel] OE Angstrom reputation (was: Bugzilla is not USENET)

2007-12-28 Thread Matthias Hentges
Am Freitag, den 28.12.2007, 12:40 +0200 schrieb Paul Sokolovsky: Hello Matthias, Friday, December 28, 2007, 12:49:38 AM, you wrote: While pulling a Godwin was not the brightest of his ideas, his original complaint is valid. It is not a troll but yet another angered user... A user

Re: [Angstrom-devel] OE Angstrom reputation (was: Bugzilla is not USENET)

2007-12-28 Thread Paul Sokolovsky
Hello Matthias, Friday, December 28, 2007, 3:19:43 PM, you wrote: Am Freitag, den 28.12.2007, 12:40 +0200 schrieb Paul Sokolovsky: Hello Matthias, Friday, December 28, 2007, 12:49:38 AM, you wrote: While pulling a Godwin was not the brightest of his ideas, his original complaint is

Re: [Angstrom-devel] OE Angstrom reputation

2007-12-28 Thread Michael Rozdoba
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Paul Sokolovsky wrote: Hello Matthias, The response made him look like an idiot, way to go folks! That's how you see the situation, Matthias, fix your perception, please! Since you seem to be of the mistaken view only Matthias has such a

Re: [Angstrom-devel] OE Angstrom reputation (was: Bugzilla is not USENET)

2007-12-28 Thread Matthias Hentges
Am Freitag, den 28.12.2007, 15:41 +0200 schrieb Paul Sokolovsky: Hello Matthias, Friday, December 28, 2007, 3:19:43 PM, you wrote: My entire point was to notify you that he had every right to be angered due to the response he received. Funny how you completely ignore that, isn't it?

Re: [Angstrom-devel] OE Angstrom reputation (was: Bugzilla is not USENET)

2007-12-28 Thread Paul M
On 28/12/2007, Matthias Hentges [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: angstrom-devel. It was pretty obvious that he was a simple _user_ with unknown amount of Linux experience (no offense intended, Aaron). I'm told it's no use apologising to him on-list as someone unsubscribed him

Re: [Angstrom-devel] OE Angstrom reputation (was: Bugzilla is not USENET)

2007-12-28 Thread Paul M
p.s. I'm unsubscribing from devel too; I'm not able to make a massive contribution due to lack of time - I've only just begun setting up for developing. I *might* hang around on the angstrom users list. ___ Angstrom-distro-devel mailing list

Re: [Angstrom-devel] OE Angstrom reputation

2007-12-28 Thread Lorn Potter
Paul Sokolovsky wrote: Hello Lorn, Friday, December 28, 2007, 1:43:28 AM, you wrote: Paul Sokolovsky wrote: As for welcoming feeling, I'm not sure someone can easily point us to similar project to learn from, I'm afraid. other linux embedded build/distribution communities:

Re: [Angstrom-devel] OE Angstrom reputation

2007-12-28 Thread Koen Kooi
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Lorn Potter schreef: Paul Sokolovsky wrote: An embedded linux disto _is_ device specific. Join us in 21th century, Lorn, it all changes now ;-). Right, as soon as you can run something compiled for collie on openmoko, I will then believe

Re: [Angstrom-devel] OE Angstrom reputation

2007-12-28 Thread Paul Sokolovsky
Hello Koen, Saturday, December 29, 2007, 12:09:26 AM, you wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Lorn Potter schreef: Paul Sokolovsky wrote: An embedded linux disto _is_ device specific. Join us in 21th century, Lorn, it all changes now ;-). Right, as soon as you can

Re: [Angstrom-devel] OE Angstrom reputation (was: Bugzilla is not USENET)

2007-12-27 Thread Paul Sokolovsky
Hello Paul, This went without response, but it contains some interesting points which are worth discussion, so I'd like to make some comments. Note: no flame is intended! Sunday, December 23, 2007, 2:02:40 AM, you wrote: Graeme Gregory wrote: I personally don't feel that this lends a

Re: [Angstrom-devel] OE Angstrom reputation (was: Bugzilla is not USENET)

2007-12-27 Thread Paul M
On 27/12/2007, Koen Kooi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Aaron Diab schreef: snip drivel the Angstrom Gestapo And I hereby invoke Godwin's law[1]. You'd be better off simply ignoring trolls - by responding and trading insults you can only reduce yourself to their level and thereby demean

Re: [Angstrom-devel] OE Angstrom reputation

2007-12-27 Thread Koen Kooi
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Graeme Gregory schreef: All those issues are however likely not because embedded people are bad, but because the area is complex, and there's lack of critical mass in the community - even to handle fluent communication. Many projects respond to

Re: [Angstrom-devel] OE Angstrom reputation (was: Bugzilla is not USENET)

2007-12-27 Thread Matthias Hentges
Am Donnerstag, den 27.12.2007, 21:50 + schrieb Paul M: On 27/12/2007, Koen Kooi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Aaron Diab schreef: snip drivel the Angstrom Gestapo And I hereby invoke Godwin's law[1]. You'd be better off simply ignoring trolls - by responding and trading insults

Re: [Angstrom-devel] OE Angstrom reputation (was: Bugzilla is not USENET)

2007-12-27 Thread Koen Kooi
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Aaron Diab schreef: snip drivel the Angstrom Gestapo And I hereby invoke Godwin's law[1]. [1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin's_law - -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] will go go away in december 2007, please use [EMAIL PROTECTED] instead. -BEGIN

Re: [Angstrom-devel] OE Angstrom reputation

2007-12-27 Thread Lorn Potter
Paul Sokolovsky wrote: As for welcoming feeling, I'm not sure someone can easily point us to similar project to learn from, I'm afraid. other linux embedded build/distribution communities: uClibc, T2, ptxdist, and probably even gumstix. I am sure there are others. All those issues

Re: [Angstrom-devel] OE Angstrom reputation (was: Bugzilla is not USENET)

2007-12-24 Thread Cliff Brake
On Dec 22, 2007 3:08 PM, Michael 'Mickey' Lauer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: _Please_ try to act much more diplomatic, in word and deed. If you're angry, swallow it down, think a day about it, and formulate a professional statement. Don't haste. It's very important. One thing I have found to be

[Angstrom-devel] OE Angstrom reputation (was: Bugzilla is not USENET)

2007-12-22 Thread Michael 'Mickey' Lauer
Graeme Gregory wrote: Guys the bickering in bugzilla is getting to the point where it is silly. I personally don't feel that this lends a good impression of the OE project and the Angstrom distribution. Also a lot of the actual arguments belong on the mailing list or private emails. People