Re: [Anima] [homenet] prefix assignment

2017-03-30 Thread Brian E Carpenter
On 31/03/2017 03:50, Ted Lemon wrote: > On Mar 30, 2017, at 9:45 AM, Michael Richardson wrote: >> It would hand out space via HNCP, and if it ran out of space, get more. > > This can also be done with DHCP. Indeed. I'm not trying to force the Anima approach, just pointing out that it will be ava

Re: [Anima] [homenet] prefix assignment

2017-03-30 Thread Michael Richardson
Pierre Pfister wrote: > Absolutely. RFC7695 Applicability Statement (Section 3.) explains that > the algorithm can be used as > long as participating nodes gets configured with an eventually > consistent set of non-overlaping prefixes, > which are then used to carve-out sub-pr

Re: [Anima] [homenet] prefix assignment

2017-03-30 Thread Ted Lemon
On Mar 30, 2017, at 9:45 AM, Michael Richardson wrote: > It would hand out space via HNCP, and if it ran out of space, get more. This can also be done with DHCP. ___ Anima mailing list Anima@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/anima

Re: [Anima] [homenet] prefix assignment

2017-03-30 Thread Michael Richardson
Juliusz Chroboczek wrote: >>> Could you please clarify what you mean by "negotiate"? Current HNCP >>> implementations are provided with a bunch of External Prefixes, which they >>> then carve into /64, one per prefix. Are you envisioning a scenario where >>> the HNCP implement

Re: [Anima] [homenet] prefix assignment

2017-03-29 Thread Pierre Pfister
> Le 29 mars 2017 à 18:04, Brian E Carpenter a > écrit : > > On 30/03/2017 11:14, Mark Townsley (townsley) wrote: >> >>> On Mar 29, 2017, at 10:04 AM, Michael Richardson >>> wrote: >>> >>> >>> This discussion started in a private thread, so I'll try to bring people >>> up-to-date by repeat

Re: [Anima] [homenet] prefix assignment

2017-03-29 Thread Brian E Carpenter
On 30/03/2017 11:14, Mark Townsley (townsley) wrote: > >> On Mar 29, 2017, at 10:04 AM, Michael Richardson >> wrote: >> >> >> This discussion started in a private thread, so I'll try to bring people >> up-to-date by repeating and moving around text. >> >> The ANIMA GRASP reference problem Autono

Re: [Anima] [homenet] prefix assignment

2017-03-29 Thread Brian E Carpenter
On 30/03/2017 10:04, Juliusz Chroboczek wrote: >> There's already a thing called an HNCP agent. Why couldn't >> it be enhanced to negotiate with an upstream ASA for resources? > > Could you please clarify what you mean by "negotiate"? Current HNCP > implementations are provided with a bunch of Ex

Re: [Anima] [homenet] prefix assignment

2017-03-29 Thread Mark Townsley (townsley)
> On Mar 29, 2017, at 10:04 AM, Michael Richardson > wrote: > > > This discussion started in a private thread, so I'll try to bring people > up-to-date by repeating and moving around text. > > The ANIMA GRASP reference problem Autonomic Service Agent (ASA), is > to do distributed prefix alloc

Re: [Anima] [homenet] prefix assignment

2017-03-29 Thread Juliusz Chroboczek
>> Could you please clarify what you mean by "negotiate"? Current HNCP >> implementations are provided with a bunch of External Prefixes, which they >> then carve into /64, one per prefix. Are you envisioning a scenario where >> the HNCP implementation actually performs active negotiation on its

Re: [Anima] [homenet] prefix assignment

2017-03-29 Thread Michael Richardson
Juliusz Chroboczek wrote: >> There's already a thing called an HNCP agent. Why couldn't >> it be enhanced to negotiate with an upstream ASA for resources? > Could you please clarify what you mean by "negotiate"? Current HNCP > implementations are provided with a bunch of Externa

Re: [Anima] [homenet] prefix assignment

2017-03-29 Thread Juliusz Chroboczek
> There's already a thing called an HNCP agent. Why couldn't > it be enhanced to negotiate with an upstream ASA for resources? Could you please clarify what you mean by "negotiate"? Current HNCP implementations are provided with a bunch of External Prefixes, which they then carve into /64, one pe

Re: [Anima] [homenet] prefix assignment

2017-03-29 Thread Juliusz Chroboczek
brian> But if the CE includes a little autonomic service agent (ASA) which brian> is in the ISP's security domain (not the SOHO domain), it can act for brian> HNCP to solicit address space from the ISP. That's the southern side brian> of the CASM model and the northern side of HNCP. HNCP just does