Re: [Anima] Autonomic Registry

2016-11-14 Thread Michael Behringer (mbehring)
Hi Pedro, Thanks for your feedback and follow-up! Appreciated! Inline... > -Original Message- > From: Anima [mailto:anima-boun...@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Pedro Martinez- > Julia > Sent: 15 November 2016 11:30 > To: anima@ietf.org > Subject: [Anima] Autonomic Registry > > Dear WG

Re: [Anima] Autonomic Registry

2016-11-14 Thread Pedro Martinez-Julia
On Tue, Nov 15, 2016 at 02:40:38AM +, Michael Behringer (mbehring) wrote: > Hi Pedro, Hi, > Generically, ANIMA devices get a domain certificate. Today, > practically all certificate management solutions are centralised, with > a central CA, and several RAs (Registration Authorities). So for

Re: [Anima] Autonomic Registry

2016-11-14 Thread Brian E Carpenter
Pedro, > For instance, disaster recovery scenarios require to establish network > systems (virtual and physical) that should be autonomic and disconnected > from any previously centralized infrastructure. Yes, we have already understood this problem, but there's a trade-off between this and

Re: [Anima] Autonomic Registry

2016-11-14 Thread Laurent Ciavaglia
Hello, Without the will to throw buzzwords to the list, but there are works on block-chain that may be relevant to consider. Best regards, Laurent. On 15/11/2016 03:40, Michael Behringer (mbehring) wrote: Hi Pedro, Thanks for your feedback and follow-up! Appreciated! Inline...

Re: [Anima] Autonomic Registry

2016-11-14 Thread Pedro Martinez-Julia
On Tue, Nov 15, 2016 at 03:50:51AM +0100, Laurent Ciavaglia wrote: > Hello, Hi, > Without the will to throw buzzwords to the list, but there are works on > block-chain that may be relevant to consider. IMHO, the block-chain mechanisms fits well with autonomic control and management. I will try

Re: [Anima] Autonomic Registry

2016-11-14 Thread Pedro Martinez-Julia
On Tue, Nov 15, 2016 at 04:23:08PM +1300, Brian E Carpenter wrote: > Pedro, Hi, > > For instance, disaster recovery scenarios require to establish > > network systems (virtual and physical) that should be autonomic and > > disconnected from any previously centralized infrastructure. > > Yes, we

Re: [Anima] Autonomic Registry

2016-11-14 Thread Michael Richardson
see inline Pedro Martinez-Julia writes: >> To: anima@ietf.org >> Subject: [Anima] Autonomic Registry >> >> Dear WG members, >> >> According to the presentation in the NMRG session, the ANIMA model relies >> in a registry which seems to be centralized. I think it does

Re: [Anima] ANIMA state machines, take two

2016-11-14 Thread Michael Richardson
{pushing send on an email in process for some days} Brian E Carpenter wrote: > I like this. I have a few comments on some of your open questions: >> Discovery: mDNS or GRASP? > I feel very strongly that we need the ANI to be as self-contained as >