Re: [anti-abuse-wg] Report & Co-Chair's Decision on Proposal 2019-04

2020-09-09 Thread JORDI PALET MARTINEZ via anti-abuse-wg
to like the result if that happens, neither the government nor ripe nor > its membership. > > --srs > > __ > From: anti-abuse-wg on behalf of Carlos > Friaças via anti-abuse-w

Re: [anti-abuse-wg] Report & Co-Chair's Decision on Proposal 2019-04

2020-09-09 Thread Ángel González Berdasco
El mié, 09-09-2020 a las 08:52 +0200, Alessandro Vesely escribió: > On Tue 08/Sep/2020 16:33:20 +0200 Alex de Joode wrote: > > A webform, for a regulator, most likely will be seen as an > > 'upgrade'. Note that FB and Google also *only accept* complaints, > > notices etc via webforms. So one can

Re: [anti-abuse-wg] Report & Co-Chair's Decision on Proposal 2019-04

2020-09-09 Thread Alessandro Vesely
On Tue 08/Sep/2020 16:33:20 +0200 Alex de Joode wrote: A webform, for a regulator, most likely will be seen as an 'upgrade'. Note that FB and Google also *only accept* complaints, notices etc via webforms. So one can argue a webform is abuse@ 2.0 :)​ So I do not share you view that a webform

Re: [anti-abuse-wg] Report & Co-Chair's Decision on Proposal 2019-04

2020-09-08 Thread Michele Neylon - Blacknight
_ > From: anti-abuse-wg on behalf of Carlos Friaças via anti-abuse-wg > > Sent: Tuesday, September 8, 2020 4:44:26 PM > To: anti-abuse-wg@ripe.net > Subject: Re: [anti-abuse-wg] Report & Co-Chair

Re: [anti-abuse-wg] Report & Co-Chair's Decision on Proposal 2019-04

2020-09-08 Thread Carlos Friaças via anti-abuse-wg
anti-abuse-wg on behalf of Carlos Friaças via anti-abuse-wg Sent: Tuesday, September 8, 2020 4:44:26 PM To: anti-abuse-wg@ripe.net Subject: Re: [anti-abuse-wg] Report & Co-Chair's Decision on Proposal 2019-04   Hi, I would like to second Piotr's comment. Thank you for your

Re: [anti-abuse-wg] Report & Co-Chair's Decision on Proposal 2019-04

2020-09-08 Thread Alex de Joode
e result if that happens, neither the government nor ripe nor its membership. > --srs From: anti-abuse-wg on behalf of Carlos Friaças via anti-abuse-wg > Sent: Tuesday, September 8, 2020 4:44:26 PM > To: anti-abuse-wg@ripe.net > Subject: Re: [anti-abuse-wg] Report &

Re: [anti-abuse-wg] Report & Co-Chair's Decision on Proposal 2019-04

2020-09-08 Thread Michele Neylon - Blacknight
..@consulintel.es>> Sent: Tuesday 8 September 2020 09:20 To: Brian Nisbet mailto:brian.nis...@heanet.ie>>; anti-abuse-wg@ripe.net<mailto:anti-abuse-wg@ripe.net> mailto:anti-abuse-wg@ripe.net>> Subject: Re: [anti-abuse-wg] Report & Co-Chair's Decision on Proposal 20

Re: [anti-abuse-wg] Report & Co-Chair's Decision on Proposal 2019-04

2020-09-08 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian
membership. --srs From: anti-abuse-wg on behalf of Carlos Friaças via anti-abuse-wg Sent: Tuesday, September 8, 2020 4:44:26 PM To: anti-abuse-wg@ripe.net Subject: Re: [anti-abuse-wg] Report & Co-Chair's Decision on Proposal 2019-04 Hi, I would like to se

Re: [anti-abuse-wg] Report & Co-Chair's Decision on Proposal 2019-04

2020-09-08 Thread JJS JJS
eptember 2020 09:20 > *To:* Brian Nisbet ; anti-abuse-wg@ripe.net < > anti-abuse-wg@ripe.net> > *Subject:* Re: [anti-abuse-wg] Report & Co-Chair's Decision on Proposal > 2019-04 > > > CAUTION[External]: This email originated from outside of the > organisation. Do not

Re: [anti-abuse-wg] Report & Co-Chair's Decision on Proposal 2019-04

2020-09-08 Thread Brian Nisbet
__ From: JORDI PALET MARTINEZ Sent: Tuesday 8 September 2020 08:58 To: Brian Nisbet ; anti-abuse-wg@ripe.net Subject: Re: [anti-abuse-wg] Report & Co-Chair's Decision on Proposal 2019-04 CAUTION[External]: This email originated from outside of the organisation. Do no

Re: [anti-abuse-wg] Report & Co-Chair's Decision on Proposal 2019-04

2020-09-08 Thread JORDI PALET MARTINEZ via anti-abuse-wg
75301. CRA No. 20036270 From: JORDI PALET MARTINEZ Sent: Tuesday 8 September 2020 08:58 To: Brian Nisbet ; anti-abuse-wg@ripe.net Subject: Re: [anti-abuse-wg] Report & Co-Chair's Decision on Proposal 2019-04 CAUTION[External]: This email originated from outside of the organisation. Do not

Re: [anti-abuse-wg] Report & Co-Chair's Decision on Proposal 2019-04

2020-09-08 Thread Brian Nisbet
From: JORDI PALET MARTINEZ Sent: Tuesday 8 September 2020 08:58 To: Brian Nisbet ; anti-abuse-wg@ripe.net Subject: Re: [anti-abuse-wg] Report & Co-Chair's Decision on Proposal 2019-04 CAUTION[External]: This email originated from outside of the organisation. Do not click on links or

Re: [anti-abuse-wg] Report & Co-Chair's Decision on Proposal 2019-04

2020-09-08 Thread Brian Nisbet
in Ireland, No. 275301. CRA No. 20036270 From: anti-abuse-wg on behalf of JJS JJS Sent: Tuesday 8 September 2020 00:31 To: anti-abuse-wg@ripe.net Subject: Re: [anti-abuse-wg] Report & Co-Chair's Decision on Proposal 2019-04 CAUTION[External]: This email originated

Re: [anti-abuse-wg] Report & Co-Chair's Decision on Proposal 2019-04

2020-09-07 Thread Randy Bush
> If I didn't know that you expected me to offer support for this > proposal, neither did anyone else. i, for one, did. it's standard procedure under the pdp. and assuming no one else understands what you do not understand is an interesting mis-understanding. randy

Re: [anti-abuse-wg] Report & Co-Chair's Decision on Proposal 2019-04

2020-09-07 Thread JJS JJS
FSC, Dublin D01 X8N7, Ireland > > +35316609040 brian.nis...@heanet.ie www.heanet.ie > > Registered in Ireland, No. 275301. CRA No. 20036270 > -- > *From:* anti-abuse-wg on behalf of JJS > JJS > *Sent:* Monday 7 September 2020 16:27 > *To:* a

Re: [anti-abuse-wg] Report & Co-Chair's Decision on Proposal 2019-04

2020-09-07 Thread Piotr Strzyzewski via anti-abuse-wg
On Mon, Sep 07, 2020 at 03:19:27PM +, Brian Nisbet wrote: Brian, Alireza, Tobias, > A few weeks ago we reached the end of the latest review phase for 2019-04. > The Co-Chairs have worked closely with the NCC Policy Development Office > since then to try to make a decision on this policy.

Re: [anti-abuse-wg] Report & Co-Chair's Decision on Proposal 2019-04

2020-09-07 Thread Gert Doering
Hi, On Tue, Sep 08, 2020 at 01:27:14AM +1000, JJS JJS wrote: > That fact that you classify my email as being on the "no" argument, shows > how misguided you are. > > Not for one second was I against this proposal, just the point about > mandating emails. > > There is no consensus "against" this

Re: [anti-abuse-wg] Report & Co-Chair's Decision on Proposal 2019-04

2020-09-07 Thread Brian Nisbet
, Ireland +35316609040 brian.nis...@heanet.ie www.heanet.ie Registered in Ireland, No. 275301. CRA No. 20036270 From: anti-abuse-wg on behalf of JJS JJS Sent: Monday 7 September 2020 16:27 To: anti-abuse-wg@ripe.net Subject: Re: [anti-abuse-wg] Report &

Re: [anti-abuse-wg] Report & Co-Chair's Decision on Proposal 2019-04

2020-09-07 Thread Brian Nisbet
in Ireland, No. 275301. CRA No. 20036270 From: anti-abuse-wg on behalf of Suresh Ramasubramanian Sent: Monday 7 September 2020 16:32 To: JJS JJS ; anti-abuse-wg@ripe.net Subject: Re: [anti-abuse-wg] Report & Co-Chair's Decision on Proposal 2019-04 CAU

Re: [anti-abuse-wg] Report & Co-Chair's Decision on Proposal 2019-04

2020-09-07 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian
A bit too late to the party but I was in support, I am sorry I wasn’t clear --srs From: anti-abuse-wg on behalf of JJS JJS Sent: Monday, September 7, 2020 8:57:14 PM To: anti-abuse-wg@ripe.net Subject: Re: [anti-abuse-wg] Report & Co-Chair's Deci

Re: [anti-abuse-wg] Report & Co-Chair's Decision on Proposal 2019-04

2020-09-07 Thread JJS JJS
That fact that you classify my email as being on the "no" argument, shows how misguided you are. Not for one second was I against this proposal, just the point about mandating emails. There is no consensus "against" this proposal. Your methodology of surveying views is so warped, it is

[anti-abuse-wg] Report & Co-Chair's Decision on Proposal 2019-04

2020-09-07 Thread Brian Nisbet
Colleagues, A few weeks ago we reached the end of the latest review phase for 2019-04. The Co-Chairs have worked closely with the NCC Policy Development Office since then to try to make a decision on this policy. This email contains a report on the Discussion Phase and Review Phase and then a