[anti-abuse-wg] New on RIPE Labs: Botnets: As We See Them in 2017

Dear colleagues, As a part of his research into detecting malicious network activities, Alireza Vaziri is sharing his network/system engineer experiences on defend network's infrastructure from outages. Please read about it in this new article on RIPE Labs:

[anti-abuse-wg] Bringing in More Voices Was Re: Bringing Law Enforcement Into the RIPE Community

Vittorio, On 02/08/2017 11:53, Vittorio Bertola wrote: > > I'm not saying that RIPE is doing anything bad or with any bad intent, > also I didn't really mean to start a thread, but even if this precise > discussion has been going on for a long time at ICANN and elsewhere > about 15 years ago,

Re: [anti-abuse-wg] Bringing Law Enforcement Into the RIPE Community

Brian I think this is a very positive move. LEA (and others) need to be part of the dialogue and the technical community need to learn how to engage with them meaningfully. Anyone who wants to start making hyperbolic arguments about big government / brother / black helicopters is deluded.

Re: [anti-abuse-wg] Bringing Law Enforcement Into the RIPE Community

Vittorio I think this is going way off topic, but since you started .. Most businesses cannot afford to engage in policy with ICANN, RIPE or anywhere else. A lot of people make the false assumption that somehow because they’re a company that they’re funding their staff to attend events and

Re: [anti-abuse-wg] Diverse interest groups (was- Bringing Law Enforcement Into the RIPE Community)

HI Vittorio On 02/08/2017 12:53, Vittorio Bertola wrote: Il 2 agosto 2017 alle 12.23 denis ha scritto: It is not a question of 'getting heard', it is knowing you have a voice and where to use it. Literally anyone can join a discussion on a Working Group mailing

Re: [anti-abuse-wg] Bringing Law Enforcement Into the RIPE Community

> Il 2 agosto 2017 alle 12.23 denis ha scritto: > > It is not a question of 'getting heard', it is knowing you have a voice > and where to use it. Literally anyone can join a discussion on a Working > Group mailing list, make comments, ask questions, agree or

Re: [anti-abuse-wg] Bringing Law Enforcement Into the RIPE Community

Hi Vittorio On 02/08/2017 12:03, Vittorio Bertola wrote: Il 1 agosto 2017 alle 23.47 denis ha scritto: "Part of my job is to help LEAs understand this process and how their suggestions on changing policy would impact the broader RIPE community, such as making

Re: [anti-abuse-wg] Bringing Law Enforcement Into the RIPE Community

> Il 1 agosto 2017 alle 23.47 denis ha scritto: > > > > > "Part of my job is to help LEAs understand this process > and how their suggestions on changing policy would impact the broader RIPE > community, such as making changes to the RIPE Database, for

Re: [anti-abuse-wg] Bringing Law Enforcement Into the RIPE Community

On 01/08/2017 17:22, Sascha Luck [ml] wrote: > On Tue, Aug 01, 2017 at 05:19:50PM +0100, Sascha Luck [ml] wrote: >> This is the first I've even heard of this. Surely the membership >> should at least be asked whether they want an organisation they >> are *mandatory* members of to become a close

Re: [anti-abuse-wg] Bringing Law Enforcement Into the RIPE Community

I realise Denis has already answered some of this, but... On 01/08/2017 20:58, Sascha Luck [ml] wrote: > On Tue, Aug 01, 2017 at 06:31:07PM +0200, Sander Steffann wrote: >> If you dislike the engagement that RIPE NCC has with external >> organisations (see >>

Re: [anti-abuse-wg] Bringing Law Enforcement Into the RIPE Community

In message , Malte von dem Hagen wrote: >We can of course start calling each other's statements idiotic... I'm sorry. I confess that I haven't really been paying attention to to this thread because I've been busy working on

Re: [anti-abuse-wg] Bringing Law Enforcement Into the RIPE Community

Hi, Am 01.08.2017 um 18:44 schrieb Sascha Luck [ml] >: > On Tue, Aug 01, 2017 at 05:29:04PM +0200, Malte von dem Hagen wrote: >> nobody is a mandatory member of RIPE. > > I did contemplate putting text in my email to forestall this > idiotic argument

Re: [anti-abuse-wg] Bringing Law Enforcement Into the RIPE Community

On 2017-08-01 18:19, Sascha Luck [ml] wrote: > On Tue, Aug 01, 2017 at 03:00:28PM +0100, Brian Nisbet wrote: >> https://labs.ripe.net/Members/richard_leaning/bringing-law-enforcement-into-the-ripe-community >> > > It certainly is "interesting". For instance: > The MoU is aspirational. RIPE NCC

Re: [anti-abuse-wg] Bringing Law Enforcement Into the RIPE Community

Hi, > Am 01.08.2017 um 18:19 schrieb Sascha Luck [ml] >: > Surely the membership should at least be asked whether they want an > organisation they > are *mandatory* members of nobody is a mandatory member of RIPE. Best regards, Malte -- 
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