[apple-crop] Apples From China?

2014-08-15 Thread Mike Arvay
I'm curious on what the group thinks about this proposed amendment to the U.S. Fruit and Vegetable Regulation which will allow the import of apples into the U.S. from China. I don't want this to become a All things from China are bad. thread. But I can see both negative and positive

Re: [apple-crop] Apples From China?

2014-08-15 Thread dmnorton
When the demand for apples in the United States is greater than the supply available in the United States, then I have no problem with imports from China or elsewhere..as long as we have a knowledge of how the fruit is grown and how pest control is administered. But I cannot see importing

Re: [apple-crop] Apples From China?

2014-08-15 Thread Geraldine Warner
For more information, see the article on the Good Fruit Grower Web site: http://www.goodfruit.com/usda-issues-rule-to-allow-imports-of-apples-from-china/ On Aug 15, 2014, at 8:13 AM, dmnor...@royaloakfarmorchard.com wrote: When the demand for apples in the United States is greater than the

Re: [apple-crop] Apples From China?

2014-08-15 Thread Hugh Thomas
There is a lot of labor involved with the production of apples. For US growers to be competitive, this implies that the price of labor will have to fall here in the US or the cost of labor in China will need to rise. (not likely) Another factor is the cost of fumigation.(?) Shipping is not a real

Re: [apple-crop] Apples From China?

2014-08-15 Thread Peter J. Jentsch
China is the world’s largest consumer of fruits and vegetables, with a growing appetite for high-quality produce. China is also an expanding import market (mostly fresh fruits and, to a lesser extent, processed products). The value of China’s produce imports increased sevenfold between 1992 and

Re: [apple-crop] Apples From China?

2014-08-15 Thread Steven Bibula
Well said Peter. Yet enforcement of practices requires transparency, regulatory monitoring and political will that are all lacking with respect to the US' premier competitor for prominence on the world stage as well as our second largest creditor (second only to the Federal Reserve Bank I

Re: [apple-crop] Apples From China?

2014-08-15 Thread Hugh Thomas
The only Western country without a minimum wage is Switzerland. The unemployment rate there is 3%. A huge problem here in the US is that we pay people not to work (unemployment checks) and have a minimum wage. If the growers in China were forced to pay our wage rates, then there would be little

Re: [apple-crop] Apples From China?

2014-08-15 Thread John Bruguiere
As long as China holds 15% or more of the US dept, the govt can't really tell China anything. I don't like importing anything that would harm American production(furniture, steel, etc.). A good businessman will diversify and change to stay ahead of the curve. A poor decision would be to keep

Re: [apple-crop] Apples From China?

2014-08-15 Thread David A. Rosenberger
So far as I know, there is no political quid pro quo for decisions on what products can be imported into the US or exported to other countries, and scientific concerns about importation of pests are given serious consideration. Nevertheless, Bill’s suggestion about trading apples for