Re: Apple-Crop: Medical question

[Harold Larsen]

Con Traas,

Fungal infection in an immuno-compromised individual is most serious.  
There are a number of fungi reported to cause deep human mycoses (to 
differentiate from atheletes' foot, etc. -- things that are primarily 
superficial skin disorders).  I'm not sure I can remember them all (or 
even knew all of them), but the ones that come to mind are the following:


Aspergillus niger (cause of  "aspergillosis")
Cephalosporium spp.
Phialophora spp. (P. verrucosa, I think)
Aureobasidium pullulans
Blastomyces
Cladosporium spp.

The difficulty with the deep mycoses causal agents is that there are 
very few antibiotics that will target just the causal fungus and do so 
effectively. 

I recall my now deceased major professor at Oregon State University, Dr. 
Wm. Dennison, telling our mycology class about an incident that he had 
with a fungus isolated from a frog kept in formaldehyde (a 
preservative).  He was really amazed that such a fungus could survive in 
that setting, isolated it, and then wound up with a fungal infection on 
his leg that turned out to be the same Cephalosporium  fungus.  It did 
not respond to any antibiotic that they had available.  I believe they 
finally had to surgically remove the entire infection in order to stop 
it (not what you wanted to hear, I know).  He used the incident to make 
the point that fungal infections that cause deep mycoses are extremely 
serious and often most difficult (if not impossible) to treat at that 
time (early 1970's).


My bet would be on Aspergillus niger.  It is a fungus known to cause 
lung infections in immuno-compromised individuals and  produces powdery 
black spores that can easily get into the air when one is sweeping / 
cleaning out an enclosed area with leaf or fruit debris (like a fruit 
storage area).  A relatively common saprophytic fungus, it often is 
found on decaying leaves and can be associated with rotting fruit.  It 
also can be found in homes with wet woodwork that develops a black 
powdery mold.


Don't know if this will help, Con Traas.  My best wishes and prayers for 
your friend.


Harold Larsen

Dr. Harold Larsen, Interim Manager - WCRC
Res. Pathologist & Ext. Fruit Dis. Specialist
Colo. St. Univ., WCRC - Orchard Mesa
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Grand Junction, CO  81503-9621
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Con.Traas wrote:


Hello all,
I have the unfortunate task of asking you what might turn out to be a 
life and death question.
An apple growing friend of mine contracted cancer some time ago, and 
was getting chemotherapy and other treatments. As a result of his 
suppressed immune system, he subsequently contracted what appears to 
be an unusual fungal infection of his lungs. All efforts to diagnose 
this in Ireland, and now in Sweden, have failed.
The doctors are considering the possibility that the fungal infection 
may be something that was carried on the apples, as the grower in 
question continued with his normal apple harvesting, packing, sorting 
of rotten apples etc. despite his condition.
I would appreciate that if any one out there on the list could shed 
any light on this, or would have any suggestions, or might have heard 
of something like this before, to let me know as soon as possible.
Or perhaps, if you know someone off-list, who might know, and would 
not mind to ask them the question, that would also be much appreciated.
The condition of this person is perilous, and without an answer, the 
prognosis is not good. So any help at all would be better than nothing.

Best wishes,
Con Traas
The Apple Farm
Ireland
++353-52-41459
 







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Re: Apple-Crop: Medical question

[Deborah I. Breth]

my sister once had a serious lung infection after shoveling composted 
manure.  If I recall correctly it was cryptococcus ?


just a quick stab at the problem and good luck.

At 02:15 PM 12/17/2006, you wrote:

Your statement is nonsense!
- Original Message -
From: Con.Traas
To: Apple-Crop
Sent: Sunday, December 17, 2006 8:19 AM
Subject: Apple-Crop: Medical question

Hello all,
I have the unfortunate task of asking you what might turn out to be a life 
and death question.
An apple growing friend of mine contracted cancer some time ago, and was 
getting chemotherapy and other treatments. As a result of his suppressed 
immune system, he subsequently contracted what appears to be an unusual 
fungal infection of his lungs. All efforts to diagnose this in Ireland, 
and now in Sweden, have failed.
The doctors are considering the possibility that the fungal infection may 
be something that was carried on the apples, as the grower in question 
continued with his normal apple harvesting, packing, sorting of rotten 
apples etc. despite his condition.
I would appreciate that if any one out there on the list could shed any 
light on this, or would have any suggestions, or might have heard of 
something like this before, to let me know as soon as possible.
Or perhaps, if you know someone off-list, who might know, and would not 
mind to ask them the question, that would also be much appreciated.
The condition of this person is perilous, and without an answer, the 
prognosis is not good. So any help at all would be better than nothing.

Best wishes,
Con Traas
The Apple Farm
Ireland
++353-52-41459



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Extension  Fax:  585-798-5191
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Crops Mobile:  585-747-6039

Re: Apple-Crop: Medical question

[Bill Shoemaker]

ConI should tell you about my friend who had a genetic respiratory 
disease, cystic fibrosis. As he became an adult he developed fungal infections 
in his lung, including aflatoxin. It was very difficult to address and 
contributed to his eventual decline and death. These infections can be 
difficult to diagnose and just as difficult to address. I'd suggest searching 
for information on treatment of cystic fibrosis patients for fungal infections. 
The reason they become infected is much the same as your friend. Best wishes 
for a positive outcome Con.Bill> > > RE: Apple-Crop: 
Biennial Bearing > > > > > Hello all, > I have the 
unfortunate task of asking you what might turn out to be a life and death 
question.  any help at all would be better than nothing. > Best wishes, > 
Con Traas > The Apple Farm > Ireland > ++353-52-41459 >   > > 
> 
William H. Shoemaker
Sr Research Specialist, Food Crops
St Charles Horticulture Research Center
University of Illinois, Urbana-Champaign

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RE: Apple-Crop: Medical question

[Tom & Mary Ellen]

FYI -  the F7 key is a quick way to spell check things.

 

Thomas C. Hoerth

Bath City Arborist & Tree Warden

1 Oak Grove Avenue

Bath, Maine 04530

207-443-8345 - Office

207-443-8346 - Fax

207-443-8347 - Garage

207-751-7677 - Cell

[EMAIL PROTECTED]

www.cityofbath.com/forest/index.htm

 

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From: apple-crop@virtualorchard.net [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of Frank Paganelli
Sent: Sunday, December 17, 2006 5:46 PM
To: Apple-Crop
Subject: Re: Apple-Crop: Medical question

 

Its not a lack of compassion.  Certainly I hope the best for him. Its the
way you stated it. But you wouldn't understand because you don't have 60
minuets where you are. But here' a thought. Could it be contracted buy grain
like weeds. Such as cheat grass ect. Chect it out.

- Original Message - 

From: Tom   & Mary Ellen 

To: 'Apple-Crop'   

Sent: Sunday, December 17, 2006 1:10 PM

Subject: RE: Apple-Crop: Medical question

 

Whether or not it is nonsense, Mr. Paganelli, I am sadly disappointed by
your complete lack of any compassion and hope nothing ever befalls you.

Happy Holidays, I'm sure!

 

Thomas C. Hoerth

Bath City Arborist & Tree Warden

1 Oak Grove Avenue

Bath, Maine 04530

207-443-8345 - Office

207-443-8346 - Fax

207-443-8347 - Garage

207-751-7677 - Cell

[EMAIL PROTECTED]

www.cityofbath.com/forest/index.htm

 


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From: apple-crop@virtualorchard.net [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of Frank Paganelli
Sent: Sunday, December 17, 2006 2:15 PM
To: Apple-Crop
Subject: Re: Apple-Crop: Medical question

 

Your statement is nonsense!

- Original Message - 

From: Con.Traas   

To: Apple-Crop   

Sent: Sunday, December 17, 2006 8:19 AM

Subject: Apple-Crop: Medical question

 

Hello all,

I have the unfortunate task of asking you what might turn out to be a life
and death question.

An apple growing friend of mine contracted cancer some time ago, and was
getting chemotherapy and other treatments. As a result of his suppressed
immune system, he subsequently contracted what appears to be an unusual
fungal infection of his lungs. All efforts to diagnose this in Ireland, and
now in Sweden, have failed.

The doctors are considering the possibility that the fungal infection may be
something that was carried on the apples, as the grower in question
continued with his normal apple harvesting, packing, sorting of rotten
apples etc. despite his condition.

I would appreciate that if any one out there on the list could shed any
light on this, or would have any suggestions, or might have heard of
something like this before, to let me know as soon as possible.

Or perhaps, if you know someone off-list, who might know, and would not mind
to ask them the question, that would also be much appreciated.

The condition of this person is perilous, and without an answer, the
prognosis is not good. So any help at all would be better than nothing.

Best wishes,

Con Traas

The Apple Farm

Ireland

++353-52-41459

 

 


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Re: Apple-Crop: Medical question

[Maurice Tougas]

Con

So sorry to hear of your friends condition.  While doing a quick  
internet search I came across this site that may provide leads?


http://www.nutriwatch.org/07PublicHealth/foodsafety.html

Best to you and you friend
Mo Tougas
Tougas Family Farm
Massachusetts, USA

On Dec 17, 2006, at 11:19 AM, Con.Traas wrote:


Hello all,
I have the unfortunate task of asking you what might turn out to be  
a life and death question.
An apple growing friend of mine contracted cancer some time ago,  
and was getting chemotherapy and other treatments. As a result of  
his suppressed immune system, he subsequently contracted what  
appears to be an unusual fungal infection of his lungs. All efforts  
to diagnose this in Ireland, and now in Sweden, have failed.
The doctors are considering the possibility that the fungal  
infection may be something that was carried on the apples, as the  
grower in question continued with his normal apple harvesting,  
packing, sorting of rotten apples etc. despite his condition.
I would appreciate that if any one out there on the list could shed  
any light on this, or would have any suggestions, or might have  
heard of something like this before, to let me know as soon as  
possible.
Or perhaps, if you know someone off-list, who might know, and would  
not mind to ask them the question, that would also be much  
appreciated.
The condition of this person is perilous, and without an answer,  
the prognosis is not good. So any help at all would be better than  
nothing.

Best wishes,
Con Traas
The Apple Farm
Ireland
++353-52-41459

Re: Apple-Crop: Medical question

[Frank Paganelli]

RE: Apple-Crop: Biennial BearingIts not a lack of compassion.  Certainly I hope 
the best for him. Its the way you stated it. But you wouldn't understand 
because you don't have 60 minuets where you are. But here' a thought. Could it 
be contracted buy grain like weeds. Such as cheat grass ect. Chect it out.
  - Original Message - 
  From: Tom & Mary Ellen 
  To: 'Apple-Crop' 
  Sent: Sunday, December 17, 2006 1:10 PM
  Subject: RE: Apple-Crop: Medical question


  Whether or not it is nonsense, Mr. Paganelli, I am sadly disappointed by your 
complete lack of any compassion and hope nothing ever befalls you.

  Happy Holidays, I'm sure!

   

  Thomas C. Hoerth

  Bath City Arborist & Tree Warden

  1 Oak Grove Avenue

  Bath, Maine 04530

  207-443-8345 - Office

  207-443-8346 - Fax

  207-443-8347 - Garage

  207-751-7677 - Cell

  [EMAIL PROTECTED]

  www.cityofbath.com/forest/index.htm

   


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  From: apple-crop@virtualorchard.net [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of 
Frank Paganelli
  Sent: Sunday, December 17, 2006 2:15 PM
  To: Apple-Crop
  Subject: Re: Apple-Crop: Medical question

   

  Your statement is nonsense!

- Original Message - 

From: Con.Traas 

To: Apple-Crop 

Sent: Sunday, December 17, 2006 8:19 AM

Subject: Apple-Crop: Medical question

 

Hello all,

I have the unfortunate task of asking you what might turn out to be a life 
and death question.

An apple growing friend of mine contracted cancer some time ago, and was 
getting chemotherapy and other treatments. As a result of his suppressed immune 
system, he subsequently contracted what appears to be an unusual fungal 
infection of his lungs. All efforts to diagnose this in Ireland, and now in 
Sweden, have failed.

The doctors are considering the possibility that the fungal infection may 
be something that was carried on the apples, as the grower in question 
continued with his normal apple harvesting, packing, sorting of rotten apples 
etc. despite his condition.

I would appreciate that if any one out there on the list could shed any 
light on this, or would have any suggestions, or might have heard of something 
like this before, to let me know as soon as possible.

Or perhaps, if you know someone off-list, who might know, and would not 
mind to ask them the question, that would also be much appreciated.

The condition of this person is perilous, and without an answer, the 
prognosis is not good. So any help at all would be better than nothing.

Best wishes,

Con Traas

The Apple Farm

Ireland

++353-52-41459

 

 

RE: Apple-Crop: Medical question

[Tom & Mary Ellen]

Whether or not it is nonsense, Mr. Paganelli, I am sadly disappointed by
your complete lack of any compassion and hope nothing ever befalls you.

Happy Holidays, I'm sure!

 

Thomas C. Hoerth

Bath City Arborist & Tree Warden

1 Oak Grove Avenue

Bath, Maine 04530

207-443-8345 - Office

207-443-8346 - Fax

207-443-8347 - Garage

207-751-7677 - Cell

[EMAIL PROTECTED]

www.cityofbath.com/forest/index.htm

 

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From: apple-crop@virtualorchard.net [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of Frank Paganelli
Sent: Sunday, December 17, 2006 2:15 PM
To: Apple-Crop
Subject: Re: Apple-Crop: Medical question

 

Your statement is nonsense!

- Original Message - 

From: Con.Traas   

To: Apple-Crop   

Sent: Sunday, December 17, 2006 8:19 AM

Subject: Apple-Crop: Medical question

 

Hello all,

I have the unfortunate task of asking you what might turn out to be a life
and death question.

An apple growing friend of mine contracted cancer some time ago, and was
getting chemotherapy and other treatments. As a result of his suppressed
immune system, he subsequently contracted what appears to be an unusual
fungal infection of his lungs. All efforts to diagnose this in Ireland, and
now in Sweden, have failed.

The doctors are considering the possibility that the fungal infection may be
something that was carried on the apples, as the grower in question
continued with his normal apple harvesting, packing, sorting of rotten
apples etc. despite his condition.

I would appreciate that if any one out there on the list could shed any
light on this, or would have any suggestions, or might have heard of
something like this before, to let me know as soon as possible.

Or perhaps, if you know someone off-list, who might know, and would not mind
to ask them the question, that would also be much appreciated.

The condition of this person is perilous, and without an answer, the
prognosis is not good. So any help at all would be better than nothing.

Best wishes,

Con Traas

The Apple Farm

Ireland

++353-52-41459

 

 


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Re: Apple-Crop: Medical question

[Frank Paganelli]

RE: Apple-Crop: Biennial BearingYour statement is nonsense!
  - Original Message - 
  From: Con.Traas 
  To: Apple-Crop 
  Sent: Sunday, December 17, 2006 8:19 AM
  Subject: Apple-Crop: Medical question


  Hello all,
  I have the unfortunate task of asking you what might turn out to be a life 
and death question.
  An apple growing friend of mine contracted cancer some time ago, and was 
getting chemotherapy and other treatments. As a result of his suppressed immune 
system, he subsequently contracted what appears to be an unusual fungal 
infection of his lungs. All efforts to diagnose this in Ireland, and now in 
Sweden, have failed.
  The doctors are considering the possibility that the fungal infection may be 
something that was carried on the apples, as the grower in question continued 
with his normal apple harvesting, packing, sorting of rotten apples etc. 
despite his condition.
  I would appreciate that if any one out there on the list could shed any light 
on this, or would have any suggestions, or might have heard of something like 
this before, to let me know as soon as possible.
  Or perhaps, if you know someone off-list, who might know, and would not mind 
to ask them the question, that would also be much appreciated.
  The condition of this person is perilous, and without an answer, the 
prognosis is not good. So any help at all would be better than nothing.
  Best wishes,
  Con Traas
  The Apple Farm
  Ireland
  ++353-52-41459



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Apple-Crop: Medical question

[Con.Traas]

Hello all,
I have the unfortunate task of asking you what might turn out to be a life and 
death question.
An apple growing friend of mine contracted cancer some time ago, and was 
getting chemotherapy and other treatments. As a result of his suppressed immune 
system, he subsequently contracted what appears to be an unusual fungal 
infection of his lungs. All efforts to diagnose this in Ireland, and now in 
Sweden, have failed.
The doctors are considering the possibility that the fungal infection may be 
something that was carried on the apples, as the grower in question continued 
with his normal apple harvesting, packing, sorting of rotten apples etc. 
despite his condition.
I would appreciate that if any one out there on the list could shed any light 
on this, or would have any suggestions, or might have heard of something like 
this before, to let me know as soon as possible.
Or perhaps, if you know someone off-list, who might know, and would not mind to 
ask them the question, that would also be much appreciated.
The condition of this person is perilous, and without an answer, the prognosis 
is not good. So any help at all would be better than nothing.
Best wishes,
Con Traas
The Apple Farm
Ireland
++353-52-41459